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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, January 22, 2016 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Huh waddayoukna
Could this niffty 2*4 telescope be the planet seeker Billy and the Plejaren mentioned.
Most probably
I reckon
Cos its due to be completed in........
Yep you guessed it
A wopping 2024
Ha another bites the dust.
http://m.sputniknews.com/art_living/20160123/1033583737/nasa-spy-telescope.html
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2016 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's my latest blog:

http://theyflyblog.com/2016/02/01/italy-prepares-for-its-undoing/

It can also double as a sanity test. Show it to someone willing to read it and see if they react in a way that indicates that they've been shown singularly remarkable, prophetically accurate information that could impact their lives...or if they just go/stay comatose.
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Corey
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MH: That compilation link from FOM on how to create peace and harmony on Earth is a very good one!
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Blake_p
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Important material regarding the 2020 possible collapse and the already inevitable movement away from the US monetary imperialism...sorry for the long post,there wasn't a link to the article;

The dollar’s 70-year dominance is coming to an end Within a decade, greenback’s could be replaced as the world’s reserve currency In early July 1944, delegates from 44 countries gathered at the Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. A three-week summit took place, at which a new system was agreed to regulate the international monetary and financial order after the Second World War. The US was already the world’s commercial powerhouse, having eclipsed the British Empire several decades earlier. America was also on course to be among the victors of “Europe’s conflict”, even though its economy was largely unscathed by war. As such, Bretton Woods was US-dominated and produced a settlement largely on US terms. Seventy years ago this week, that fateful summit ended. Its close marked the moment the dollar’s unquestionable supremacy was secured. Since then, global commerce has been conducted largely in dollars and leading economies have held the greenback as their primary reserve currency. The same system remains intact today, with the lion’s share of commercial settlements worldwide still clearing the US banking system – even if the parties involved have nothing to do with the States. The dollar’s hegemony continues to be cemented, meanwhile, by the operations of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank. Founded at Bretton Woods, they’re both Washington based, of course, and controlled by America, despite some Francophone window-dressing. The advantages this system bestows on the US are enormous. “Reserve currency status” generates huge demand for dollars from governments and companies around the world, as they’re needed for reserves and trade. This has allowed successive American administrations to spend far more, year-in year-out, than is raised in tax and export revenue. By the early Seventies, US economic dominance was so assured that even after President Nixon reneged on the dollar’s previously unshakeable convertibility into gold, amounting to a massive default, dollar demand kept growing. So America doesn’t worry about balance of payments crises, as it can pay for imports in dollars the Federal Reserve can just print. And Washington keeps spending willy-nilly, as the world buys ever more Treasuries on the strength of regulatory imperative and the vast liquidity and size of the market for US sovereign debt. It is this “exorbitant privilege” – as French statesman Valéry Giscard d’Estaing once sourly observed – that has been the bedrock of America’s post-war hegemony. It is the status of the dollar, above all, that’s allowed Washington to get its way, putting the financial squeeze on recalcitrant countries via the IMF while funding foreign wars. To understand politics and power it pays to follow the money. And for the past 70 years, the dollar has ruled the roost. This won’t change anytime soon. Something just took place, though, which illustrates that dollar reserve currency status won’t last forever and could be seriously diluted. Last week, seven decades on from Bretton Woods, the governments of Brazil, Russia, India and China led a conference in the Brazilian city of Fortaleza to mark the establishment of a new development bank that, whatever diplomatic niceties are put on it, is intent on competing with the IMF and World Bank. It’s long been obvious the BRICs are coming. The total annual output of these four economies has spiralled in recent years, to an astonishing $29.6  trillion (£17.3 trillion) last year on a PPP-basis adjusted for living costs. That’s within spitting distance of the $34.2 trillion generated by the US and European Union combined. America’s GDP, incidentally, was $16.8 trillion on World Bank numbers, and China’s was $16.2 trillion – within a whisker of knocking the US off its perch. The balance of global economic power is on a knife-edge. Tomorrow is almost today. Consider also that the BRICs collectively hold sway over 50pc of global currency reserves, rising to almost three-quarters if you take the emerging markets as a whole. The G7 nations between them control only 20pc – and less than 8pc if you exclude Japan. Based on such balance sheets, we’re now seeing institutional change. The new BRICs Development Bank, modelled on the IMF, will have a $100bn currency reserve available to lend around the world, giving distressed debtor nations an alternative to the “Washington consensus”. For a long time, the BRICs have been paying in to the IMF, yet been denied additional influence over what happens to the money. Belgium has more votes than Brazil, Canada more than China. The institutions governing the global economy have failed to keep pace with reality. Modest reforms giving the large emerging markets more power, agreed with much fanfare in 2007 and again in 2010, have been stalled by Washington lawmakers. The BRICs have now called time, setting up their own, rival institution based in Shanghai. The key to the dollar’s future is petrocurrency status – whether it’s used for trading oil and other leading commodities. Here, too, change is afoot. China’s voracious energy appetite and America’s increased focus on domestic production mean the days of dollar-priced energy look numbered. Beijing has struck numerous agreements with Brazil and India that bypass the dollar. China and Russia have also set up rouble-yuan swaps pushing America’s currency out of the picture. But if Beijing and Moscow – the word’s largest energy importer and producer respectively – drop dollar energy pricing, America’s reserve currency status could unravel. That would undermine the US Treasury market and seriously complicate Washington’s ability to finance its vast and still fast-growing $17.5  trillion of dollar-denominated debt. In May, Beijing and Moscow signed a huge multi-decade gas supply contract, to sit alongside a similar oil deal agreed in 2009. No one knows what share of this energy trade will be on a yuan-rouble basis – and the two governments aren’t saying. This question, seemingly inane, is among the most important diplomatic issues of our time. At the moment, although Russia’s export partners do sometimes settle in roubles, most Sino-Russian trade is still in dollars. But the combination of this new gas deal, and western sanctions on Russia – has seen Moscow and Beijing step up bilateral efforts to facilitate large-scale non-dollar settlement. With western anti-Russia sanctions likely to be tightened again after the tragic shooting of a Malaysian passenger plane over Ukrainian airspace, Beijing’s response will be closely scrutinised. I, for one, expect the Chinese to say little until it’s clearly established who grounded the plane and why. Although the dollar’s reserve status won’t end overnight, the global payments system is now moving inexorably towards that outcome. The US currency accounted for just 33pc of all foreign exchange holdings in 2013, on IMF numbers, down from 55pc in 2001. Within a decade or so, a “reserve currency basket” may emerge, with central banks storing wealth in a mix of dollars, yuan, rupee, reals and roubles, as well as precious metals. Perhaps some kind of synthetic bundle of the world’s leading currencies will be developed, with emphasis placed, after years of western money-printing, on assets backed by commodities and other tangibles. I also believe central banks may include cyber-currencies (such as bitcoin) in their reserves. If you think that’s mad, consider that mankind has long sought scarcity – be it with shells, stones or metallic elements – to store wealth. Now the money-printing taboo has been broken by yet another generation, it makes sense to use complex computer algorithms to ensure that only a certain amount of a particular currency unit can ever exist. The dollar’s status is a big question. Judging the outcome is more akin to star-gazing than scientific economics. But the establishment of this BRIC Development bank, timed to coincide with the anniversary of Bretton Woods, is an audacious and significant move. The world’s emerging giants now have thumbscrews on the West.
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Stardustwilly
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My question is in the US, how do we get to keep our hard earned money, land, house? I've read about this fiat currency, debt based money system, ponzi fraud for two decades now, I really still can't do anything about it.
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Hugo
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the US dollar goes down and becomes almost worthless as Meier said it could, I would like to know what that means for other currencies around the world like here in Australia?
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Johnboy
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome and Happy Birthday to the one true prophet, Billy Meier! Thank you for all you do! Give my greetings to Semjase or PTAAH if they stop by on your birthday today!

Johnboy
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Stardustwilly
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In our individual state, the legislative congress, passed or made some kind of provisions, for a state currency in the event of a currency collapse,but that doesn't mean you couldn't still lose it all first, then have to start over working under the local state money system.
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Memo00
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo, in my opinion if the dollar "dies" then gold and silver would the be the logical choice. But to wait until it happens is not a good idea because by then it would be too late, the banks would close and nobody would be able to take cash out (in fact today there doesn´t exist enough cash in the world for everyone to take their savings out of the bank), a lot of the "money" that is "used" (as in credit) is "imaginary", it doesn´t exist at all! (physically), and physical money is the only "real", official money, the numbers on computer screens can easily become "air". The system only continues "working" because persons believe everything will be "OK", the day this changes (when persons realize that credit is not real money and you cannot increase debt forever, or recover the "money" you have lent) will be the day the entire economic system will collapse. The rich and powerful would take out whatever they can and change it as soon as possible for real things as gold and move to a far away place safe from the riots, when stores are emptied, there is no gasoline, etc.

Salome
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Blake_p
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You invest in things that will always be worth something or that you can leverage against...Gold,Silver,most real estate,buy foreign currencies. Look at trends of investments when the dollar looses it's value,etc. Reasearch,research!
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Hugo
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Gold and silver then! Thanks!
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Blake,

Interesting (post 360) – Where did you get this from?

According to the article’s “given state of global money affairs” the US$ future should very much depend on how long the oil/gas price / Russian Ruble is kept under pressure.

Salome,

Bill
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Memo00
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Also one has take into account that the government may confiscate gold if it finally "accepts" that it is "broken" and that it will never be able to repay its debt. If i would live in the US and have some savings i would buy some land in South America and "run" when things begin to deteriorate... Salome.
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Blake_p
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2016 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi;

A currency article related website. I will try and look for the link. Yes in some ways it is...because Oil is the largest traded commodity in the world by far,plus entire countries economies run on its profits and tradability,like Russia,all countries in OPEC,and many others. So for many years whoever can control the supply,demand,pricing,who gets what,etc...has great power and leverage. But oil is just one of the major factors...i think the other biggest play has been through currency manipulation,and the SDR,or special drawing rights-which are the recognized world reserve currencies. Which,of course,the US has the major one,and something like 42% ownership of the 100% of all the currencies,and the only veto power in all of the SDR. This is how they create wealth from nothing,and the real reason behind most of the wars that are proliferated by the US around the world,with the control of oil being another big one,and of course many other smaller reasons. Think about how much money you can make by going to war with a country,destroying their infrastructure,economy,etc..which completely devalues their currency...buy up trillions on the dollar while it is worth basically nothing,then wait for it to go back to it's original value once the country has been re-formed and allowed to re-enter the world economy. The US has done this many times,and the most recently done it with the Kuwaiti currency in the 90's. This is also how you wipe out insane amounts of national debt in one swoop. I could go on forever but i don't want to get to much off topic,even though it is relevant to future economic events foretold by Billy and the Plejaren, you just have to watch the same patterns unfold over and over again,and be able to understand what goes on behind the scenes with the scum that run our world. This one of the major factors,if not the biggest,ways that the elite create wealth from nothing.
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Michael_horn
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People also seem to forget things like you...can't eat gold. And, relative to the entire population, very few people will have gold to trade for goods. Those that do may then become...TARGETS for those who don't.

Bartering goods and services will be more beneficial in certain situations. Gold, currencies, etc., only have the value that is "officially" ascribed to them. It can and does rise and fall and those forms of wealth may not be all that useful when you need food and someone else needs goods or services you can provide in exchange.
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Votan
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I agree with Michael .

We are possessed and controlled by the money system so much. Wars and murders occur all because of the money system.

That is called brainwashing.

We tried to force the banks to declare that when you borrow so called money which should be cash, what they are actually giving you is money created out of thin air. But you pay them back in cash that you worked hard for.

We took the bank to the high court in Australia and they did not want to rule against the banks.

That is what credit is . Strangely it is not illegal.The biggest con in history.
joe
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Getknowledge
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I'd like to substantiate this as my next question to Billy.

Is this the counter balance to the criminal banking machinations. Or an elaborate scheme to slow cook frogs on a stove, to make people complacent.

Billy mentioned that secret societies rule the Earth, and some are harmless/benevolent.

I keep thinking about how the Universe is neutral-positive, positive and negative in equal amounts. So, there’re also positive things happening at the same time. And why positive prophecies are not given.

Multiple alternative media sources are reporting about an ancient secret asian society, not associated with the Chinese government, who are keepers of the global collateral accounts. They maybe behind the new Chinese banks and BRICS alliance. And why the world will be able to shift to gold-back currencies away from the US petrol-dollar. Apparently, the federal reserve have been allowed to print money against this gold for the past 100 years, destroying the planet in the process.

Also it says in Billy's prophecies said that peoples will be counting gold and silver.

Foster Gamble with insider knowledge sums up the unprecedented global events, surrounding the secret asian society and the global collateral accounts.

Is the Value of your Money About to Change?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SROw5-p4AKY&spfreload=10

Tracking Global Changes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLoAxHxTnvI

Late 2015 interview (second half of show):
Ep. 349 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Annie Jacobsen, Foster Gamble: DARPA/Thrive, LIVE on air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dnwVmtQyY&spfreload=10
Tien
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Blake_p
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Well, i agree the recommendations of the Plejaren and Billy of being able to sustain yourself by growing your own food,having access to water,and even having those things to barter or trade..or even goods and services is definitely a necessity....the rest of the world will not stop their economies from performing,nor will they stop using paper currencies because the US,it's allies,and their enemies have destroyed many things through wars and destruction.

Maybe you might want to take a look at Syria for example who are being bombed into oblivion,primarily their food sources and water sources...where people are in the worst possible conditions dying from starvation and disease because everything has been destroyed. I think if you asked them they would probably take a pocket full of gold over their useless farmland and rubble. It is always good to have something thats is deemed worth something,so to also barter and trade with. I think i'll take the chance of being robbed,instead of sitting around rotting and waiting to die from starvation or disease. From a military standpoint, strategic military targets include food and water supplies to weaken the enemy,it's population,and resolve.
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Hugo
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MH, does it have to be a worst case scenario for all Western currencies where they become worthless and where only food matters and gold and silver are NOT a form of preservation of wealth?


"Also it says in Billy's prophecies said that peoples will be counting gold and silver."

Tien, I would very much like to see where Billy said that. I looked but couldn't find it. Show me please?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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While the economical supremacy of the US is continually growing, major economies (Brazil, China P.R. Russia, Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries) are ailing.

Russia, China P.R. and Saudi Arabia will use their large holdings of foreign currencies to protect their Rubel, Yuan and Riyal and the welfare of their citizens but how long will they spend their savings to keep their currencies alive?

The potential to solve conflicts aggressively is growing - particularly in the Middle East.
The conflict between Turkey/Saudi Arabia and Russia/Iran is reaching new heights with Turkey / Saudi Arabia willing to send ground troops to Syria – a move welcome by the US but most certainly not by Russia/Iran.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/saudi-official-says-kingdom-ready-to-send-troops-to-syria/2016/02/04/7e171ee0-cb72-11e5-b9ab-26591104bb19_story.html

It is really astonishing how accurate Quetzal’s “Henoch Prophecies” (215th Contact) given in 1987 were.
Why do they fall deaf ears?
Do the “winners” not see that several of the “big losers” will unite?

I may not know the details that lead to the destruction of Atlantis but I can see parallels. Mankind’s renewed interest in Atlantis (since I. Donnelly’s book in 1882) was no accident...

The Legacy of Atlantis

During the past 150 years man’s technological progress advanced much more significantly than at any time during the 2500 years before. Never did man have a faster and greater access to knowledge than he does today.
With this access to knowledge man should have a “well-informed conscience” and an “examined life”, so mankind should be what T. Aquinas called “ethical” and live according to Socrates a “worthy life”.

But astonishingly the reverse is true:
Never before was the disparity between the level of man’s technological achievements and his level of ethics greater than it is today:
Martin Luther Jr:
“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided man.”
There was a time when a similar development took place on our planet.
When our planet was ruled by people who never took arms against one another and “.. despised everything but virtue, caring little for their present state of life, and thinking lightly of the possession of gold and other property, which seemed only a burden to them; neither were they intoxicated by luxury; nor did wealth deprive them of their self-control..” seeing clearly that “…all these goods are increased by virtue and friendship with one another, whereas by too great regard and respect for them, they are lost and friendship with them.”
But avarice and “unrighteous” power, the use of “spiritual power for material gain” (E. Cayce) lead to their decline:
“…when the divine portion began to fade away, and ..the human nature got the upper hand, they then, being unable to bear their fortune, behaved unseemly, .. grew visibly debased…
But to those who had no eye to see the true happiness, they appeared glorious and blessed at the very time when they were full of avarice and unrighteous power…”
http://atlantis-today.com/Atlantis_Critias_Timaeus.htm (second last paragraph)

Every effect has a cause and every cause has its effects.

From Edgar Cayce (EC)’s 1600 life readings some 44 % referred to persons that had incarnations in Atlantis. Why would such a large percentage of Atlantis people re-incarnate in our time?
Because (according to EC / Reading 364-1 No.7):
“…if they made such alterations in the affairs of the earth in their day, as to bring destruction upon themselves” and their fellow humans that they have a deep desire “to make many changes in the affairs of peoples and individuals in the present”

It would make sense that many Atlantis people are re-born in our time to warn their fellow humans.
Because our world shows many similarities with Atlantis before her destruction:
We, too, live in a world of violence, hate, deception, double standards and nuclear weapons’ piles.
A world in which the rapid rise of technological progress is perilous.
Especially if we add overpopulation and the fact that several competing Earth nations have the means to destroy all life on our planet

What humans have developed over thousands of years, may easily again perish “… in a single dreadful day and a single dreadful night ..”
It took humanity some 11,517 years to regain some of the vigor and knowledge that was lost during the Atlantis destruction.
A fall back into prehistoric barbarism would await the few if any survivors of a similar holocaust.

To motivate mankind to prevent this holocaust from happening again.
This is the legacy of Atlantis.
And one of the major reasons for Billy’s and the Plejaren Mission.
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Michael_horn
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Blake et al,

Since we’re discussing finances, and human behavior, etc., on the macro and micro level, I had two difficult personal situations with people in my community so I’ll ask how you would have personally handled them.

In the first case, let’s say someone you knew for a few years, and had considered to be a friend, owed you money and then refused to repay any of it; your efforts to reason with them were met with profanity instead.

In the second case, the person was a trusted friend of many more years and a professional financial advisor. You were in frequent email contact with him about matters of mutual interest and you suddenly, accidentally discover that - at the same time - they have been going behind your back and trying to create trouble with another person you know.

You confront them, explain that they are badly mistaken, factually incorrect and ask them to immediately stop. But instead they then accuse you of terrible things, spread lies and even…threaten you with false imprisonment.

In both cases the people rely on your not discussing personal business with others in your community. They also both...know each other and the person who owes you the money actually knows what the other person has done.

Okay, sounds like a soap opera but how would you have dealt with either or both of these situations?

Our macro world, including the financial realities, etc., are made of interactions between people that may start at, or include, the interpersonal level. These relationships often set the tone for things in our communities and the world at large.
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Getknowledge
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It's my understanding that the collateral accounts will be released to the people of the planet for humanitarian purposes.

Hugo,

PREDICTIONS OF THE PROPHETS JEREMIA AND ELIA

Several mentions of gold:

"And when the second millennium ends and the third has begun, human beings will be blinded by gold and material values to such an extent that they will be counting talers* (silver coins) in all countries everywhere. And even when human beings look up at the stars in the sky at night, they will see only gold, gemstones and talers."

"And the bogus and so-called messengers of god, god-like and exalted beings, masters, liberators, and kings of salvation will do their ruinous work through falsehood and fraudulence with deceitfulness, fanaticism, greed for gold and charlatanism, and will gather around themselves innumerable mindless believers."

"As alms he will give his fellow-human being a tiny part of a split taler while he sleeps on bags filled with gold and talers."

"The huge forests will fall victim to the human being’s greed for gold and money, and the air will burn, because the air will be destroyed through the human beings’ production of artificial materials."

"All of this will also rest on a craving for profit and power and a craving to practice usury, for this will be an obscure and secret society controlled by laws and regulations, and its laws will be hatred and revenge, and its weapon will be the poison, through which comes the craving for gold and money, belongings and possessions, lust and vice, as well as pleasure."

"And the cults will fight each other in bloody battles until death and ruin, and barbarity will break out within the cults, and the cults’ high and highest ranking priests and their henchmen will persecute the cults’ lower and lowest ranks, and murder them in order to take hold of their goods and gold, and thereby getting wealthier and wealthier. This will also happen through continuous exploitation, because tributes and penalties will be imposed on the believers by their cults, which will have to be paid in gold and coins."

http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash93/Jeremia_Elia.htm
Tien
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Michael_horn
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As with everything prophecies, predictions and everything else in life, the law of cause and effect is always at play. So we try to do things with an awareness of their...consequences.

We know that in our society we can’t always avoid dealing with companies, corporations, or even individuals that we don’t want to. Case in point, most people still have to fill up their cars with gas and we also know that the extraction of petroleum and other forms of mining, etc., are a major cause of earthquakes, sinkholes, and volcanic eruptions, to say nothing of air pollution, ocean fouling oil spills, etc. Yet, for the most part we’re still bound to it.

This can also be on a smaller scale where a certain business may be “the only one in town” and, despite whatever ethical problems they may have, people are still pretty much compelled to use them.

It must be said that in most cases one can’t force other people to behave ethically, responsibly, etc. In my situation I could have just let the issues I had with the two people remain unsatisfactorily unresolved but there was another element that factored into the equation. The two people were involved in a project important to the community, working to complete their part. Due to the nature of things, once they had completed their work I would be a logical person for the next step in the business end. However, I knew that my own ethics would prevent me from doing business with them.

Fortunately, I wasn’t the only person who had a business to facilitate the next steps, or I would have had a very big dilemma, a real conflict about whether I should just go ahead against my own ethical principles because there was no one else who could do that job. But I knew the success of the very worthwhile project didn’t depend on me, so I could decline to participate on those grounds, if we didn’t resolve our differences.

The only problem was that since I was quite prominent in this role, if I had to openly decline to do it, lots of people would ask me…why. At that point I knew I would not evade, or conceal, my reasons. This would inevitably cause some ripples, especially for them, as the nature of the project also required great integrity and such a rift between us would reveal their questionable behavior.

So I decided to try one more time, letting both of them know my position, which elevated my principles over profit, etc., in the hope that they would see that doing the right thing would be beneficial, personally, professionally and for the sake of the community.

I’ll let you know how that ultimately went.

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