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Votan
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Post Number: 493
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 06:17 pm: | 
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Kiwilove
Excellent summary of human behaviour.
We have this thing within us that determines right from wrong.
Unfortunately some people find it easier and more profitable to choose the wrong part.
Once people start treating other people like they would treat themselves,then we might see a improvement in society and no more greed and wars.
You are right why immortalise war because it is a macho thing.
joe
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Norm
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Post Number: 1650
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 09:19 pm: |
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Cory, "Bomb Mexico" can you point me to where Trump said that. I've been following this closely and I have not heard that. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:33 am: |
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Anyone with any intelligence or awareness, etc will know how incongruent the 9-11 story is.
Scientists of any kind/discipline should have known the impossible things listed that simply cannot be true at all.
Why do teachers of high schools, professors at universities etc not speak up about all this?
Or experts in their various fields - construction, demolition, explosives, engineers, physicists, chemists and so on stay quiet too?
No one really wants to know the truth about 9-11 because it will confirm how corrupt the US administration and it's various departments, and military agencies etc can be. That the US is no different than those countries/forces/etc that it's at war with.
The truth is always short, sharp and to the point. Like a mirror it'll show you naked, warts and all.
Those who are doing well in their career path and have built up their possessions - and are well off, or in the middle class zone - are insulated from the truth. Do not see things as they really are. Those who are financially struggling, or don't have jobs, etc etc see the world through different eyes and can see the difficulty the world is in.
We should all know how property prices have risen since the late 90s' and since the year 2001 have gone through the roof - such that the generation growing up today will definitely struggle to own their own home.
Harvey |
Historeed
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 05:09 am: |
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I wonder what Billy thinks of Donald Trump? I can only imagine words like egomaniac and psychopath would be at the top of the list.
Matthew Reed
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Corey
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Post Number: 1065
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 11:22 am: |
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Norm,
It was a byte on my local news. It was his response after the President of Mexico swore about Trump, and the wall, after Trump refuted the Pope, when he called the wall "un-Christian".
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Post Number: 1066
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 11:30 am: |
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Harvey,
you wrote: "Only mad men would go to war for war's sake - death and destruction. Muslim terrorists show how religion easily misleads followers into war - via their programming. And religions are all about programming - this is what they do, and little else."
Billy writes scientific answers in his pamphlet "Aggression, Gewalt, und Terrorismus" tied to the "limbische system" of the brain. Someday I will get around to translating it, survivors will need pamphlets like this, if WWIV comes into being.
Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Post Number: 1067
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:43 pm: |
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Norm,
Maybe I mis-heard it. According to this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3464574/I-m-not-going-pay-f-ing-wall-former-Mexican-president-blasts-Trump-s-border-pledge-foul-mouthed-rant.html
what he said is, at a rally in Iowa, he would bomb the sh#t out of ISIS. My apologies.
Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Norm
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Post Number: 1651
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 03:19 pm: |
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Cory, They are making that up. I never heard that and I have been following Trump closely. I'm waiting for a ah hah moment & all I see is a guy willing to take on the Establishment & they are doing everything to make him look bad. The Globalists cant allow Trump in power he will set them back years. Even Mitt Romney is out there attacking him for the Establishment & Billy was anti-Mitt if you remember. They are now attacking Trump for wanting to Allie with Russia against ISIS. Which I think is a great idea.
As far as Billy endorsing anyone its not going to happen. We all saw how Obama worked out. |
Norm
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Post Number: 1652
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 03:28 pm: |
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The only Bomb talk I can find is this type "Mexico's Vicente Fox so mad at Trump he drops the F-bomb"
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-vicente-fox-mexico-border/2016/02/25/id/716132/
https://www.ticotimes.net/2016/02/25/mexicos-vicente-fox-so-mad-at-donald-trump-he-drops-the-f-bomb |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 08:52 pm: |
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The people of New York - should make their own video telling their story of 9-11, of what really happened. Much like the outraged citizens of the Oklahoma City bombing did in their video - of this name.
How government (federal) agencies would retell the story so that they would not be implicated in what really happened on that day.
The evidence is in the dust - samples of this should be sent to independent scientific laboratories for analysis. Sadly the death toll from 9-11 would be very high, from those inhaling this dust without any protection whatsoever.
The US is a world leader of terrorism and of being hypocrites. Their gun control laws and history of violence, along with their Hollywood productions promoting violence for entertainment, in which the good guys always use violence to settle issues - all highlight they cannot be bearers of peace and unity, etc etc when lies and false concepts are promoted instead of truthful values.
Harvey |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 06:20 am: |
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Im pretty sure the events leading up to the 911 event has been explained in the contact reports.
The US government didn't organize the attack but they did provoke it and ignored the intel they had about it.
If I'm wrong please correct me.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Votan
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 07:13 pm: |
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Watchdog
Anything is possible. I would not put it past them.
joe
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Joe
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 08:06 am: |
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Watchdog (David),
You are right. It was indeed mentioned in a contact report that the September 11 2001 terrorist attack in New York City was NOT an inside job, unlike some stupid conspiracy nutcases in this forum would have you think. On the one hand it might be a bit foolish and stupid to think that the US government always tells the truth to its people because that has not always been the case. One example of this is the Apollo 11 fake moon landing. But on the other hand it is simply ridiculous to think that the US government would kill nearly 3000 of its own people just to give them a reason to go to war in the Middle East. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 12:49 pm: |
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The plain (Plane) facts said to be the crux of the 9-11 story simply does not add up - and Billy's story of explosives aboard the plane(s) also still does not hold up.
Consider anyone trying to recreate this event with said planes. How do you precisely aim planes into buildings such that they impact centred within the building and somehow wings etc do not crumple up and smash and fly apart, instead of having a 'roadrunner' incision cut into the building?
To have one plane do this is very improbable - having 2 doing exactly the same, even more so. It's like they were laser guided precisely to their impact points.
That the first building struck - did not fall first - is yet another oddity to the scenario.
Likewise details of the Pentagon strike reveals it could not have been such a large bodied plane present but something much smaller, like that of cruise missile or such like device.
The way the two Towers fell is typical of a carefully controlled demolition in which charges are set off in sequence - that both fell in exactly the same manner makes this case/cause more likely.
Bin Laden does not have the resources to orchestrate this kind of event - nor influence government agencies/military/etc as how they were on that day. CIA involvement is most likely than any other since they're responsible for Bin Laden personna creation anyway.
Harvey |
Votan
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Post Number: 496
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 06:12 pm: |
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Joe
Yeah right. How many people did they sacrifice at Pearl Harbour so that they have a excuse to enter the second world war.
They knew the Japanese would attack before and did nothing.
joe
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 04:46 pm: |
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For the record.
I was not and never will defend the US government.
Im sure they provoked it in some form like they did with Pearl Harbor and im sure many other events. They are pro's in the false flag game for sure.
Thank you
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Stardustwilly
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 05:08 pm: |
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All the buildings just imploded upon themselves, too precise for me to believe anything other than controlled demolition me, looks that way, but I'm not saying it is that for fact. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 10:14 pm: |
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I share the same opinion as Kiwilove on 911.
Pentagon does not add up, WTC 7 collapse does not add up, and much more. The US made some of those things happen imo. |
Corey
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Post Number: 1068
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 01:57 am: |
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For those of us that choose to take the advice of Billy, and the Plejaren when it comes to the spiritual teaching (Geisteslehre), but choose to not buy what Billy, and the Plejaren explain about 9/11, because of the implications of a controlled demolition, how did 2 planes take down 3 buildings, the things PNAC (membership included Bush's brother, and other high ranking Bush personnel) said about a "new Pearl Harbor" in the years leading up to 9/11, etc, and choose to think for ourselves, that maybe it was an inside job, this is our right to think for ourselves, and in doing so, and questioning Billy, and Ptaah's explanations, at least we are not blindly following the CR. Blind subservience will only lead to religion-based belief. In 2014, 3/4 of Romney's advisers were PNAC, and other Bush cronies, and remember how quick Billy was to call him a psychopath? Why should it be any different, a few years earlier, when these degenerate, and power-maddened people were loyal to Bush?
If we branch out from Billy on this one thing, there is nothing wrong with that, wherever the path may lead in the future.
If it is true that the truth will come out in the future (maybe after 2020 collapse), then maybe, if we're still alive and kicking, we'll see who was right, and who was wrong.
I don't think this is about who is right, or who is wrong though, it is the thought, that the implications that the US government, would use underhanded machinations, and downright murder, to try to usher in a new century of American imperialism. This also ushered in great casualties for NY, the people of Iraq, and Afghanistan. If you don't think the US government, especially a Bush infested US government, would be capable of murder, to usher in American imperialism, think again!  I have seen the videos of the buildings coming down in slow motion, and you can see the explosions going off inside the buildings as they fall, I have heard the tapes of the (deceased) NY firefighters claiming explosions were going off in the buildings. All these years later, the US government still will not pull out the troops out of the rubber-stamped ridiculous war in Afghanistan, or it will be a powder keg, negative cause and effect of US "nation-building", and "puppet" government. I hope the next President, will say "To heck with this, we can't afford this 'nation-building' anymore", and pull out all troops, and shut down all military bases. I have had military people, who have done tours in Afghanistan, tell me this is their utmost wish!
If anything, you would think FIGU would encourage us to think for ourselves when it comes to this item, considering the implications. I am not one to usually follow wild conspiracy theories, but for this item, there is just too much, of what I would consider proof, and I no longer consider this a theory, nor wild.
Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Joe
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Post Number: 409
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 03:54 am: |
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There is no point in trying to argue with stupid conspiracy nutcases! Unfortunately there are people who ride on the conspiracy bandwagon and profit from it. Alex Jones being one of them.
Votan,
Just because you are right about what happened in Pearl Harbour doesn't necessarily mean that the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks that happened in New York City are no different! In the contact notes Ptaah mentions that the US government had nothing to do with the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City. However when the US was attacked by terrorists in New York City back in 2001, the Bush Administration were fed with false intelligence which then led the USA to go to war in Iraq. Up to this point it would be understandable that the then Bush Administration would want to go to war because back then they were unaware about the information that was provided to them by the intelligence community might not have been accurate. However, according to Germany's former foreign minister Joschka Fischer, the German secret service (BND) had realised some time before the war that the information from their source named 'Curveball' might have been false which obviously later turned out to be the case.
"Our position was always: [Curveball] might be right, but he might not be right. He could be a liar but he could be telling the truth," said Fischer at a press conference in Berlin to promote his memoir about the Iraq war."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/17/curveball-doubts-cia-german-foreign
And here is a documentary about the events that led to the Iraq war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2951-oDXXs
In the documentary it mentions that the then president of the German Foreign Intelligence, August Hanning, and the then German Foreign Minister, Joschka Fischer, had warned the CIA some time before the USA invaded Iraq about their source 'Curveball' might be providing them with false information about Iraq's so-called weapons of mass destruction.
Which leads one to think that this is a "Problem-Reaction-Solution" scenario. Although this might be the case, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was the US government who were responsible for creating the problem in the first place. |
Kiwilove
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 11:29 am: |
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Conspiracy is a real thing - whether it be somewhat accidental/haphazard or carefully orchestrated.
You could say that in past ages - the ordinary person had no say in what they could do, ie. they had to fight for their country/king/etc or else it was off with their heads.
But as the world became civilised - 'programming' became the mode by which to get the population on side with the current war(s) being fought. Whether it be using religious programming as present in religious wars or using 'nationalism' - if not for their God, their King/Queen, then for their country is used.
But anyone with their common sense intact, can see through all of this crap and would rather not risk their life at all, for such a useless cause.
That the population will wise up - and should refuse flatly to take part in any wars at all because nothing changes, and nothing is learned if we keep on doing the same old same old.
Prophets would have said this - but their message is not faithfully recorded for the public at large to absorb and learn from. Billy's message to humanity makes more sense than anything from religious and political leaders etc etc.
Ultimately we are here on this Earth to learn and mature/grow up and we do that by knowing that which is real and reality, and that which is not.
It is a shame that with the US - there are a lot of good people present - but there is not freedom of the press present. It's focus on materialism - the almighty dollar, means that that always comes first, and the truth ends up being last and sadly compromised.
Looking at someone like Oprah Winfrey who champions good causes yet lives a life of luxury also. She doesn't speak up for the truth because she doesn't like stirring up controversy - though for certain causes she has been outspoken.
Her spiritual message is a confusing one because she embraces Christianity and chooses not to speak out against it.
The lie of Christianity is of course - the Resurrection, and promoting Jesus as being the Christ - World and personal saviour.
It is always up to humanity to wake up and save itself, by acting responsibly by knowing the bad things it is doing and to stop doing them.
Harvey |
Votan
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 01:07 pm: |
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Corey
Do you really think that all people are stupid.
Billy has to be careful of what he says.
joe
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Michael_k
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 01:43 pm: |
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Mr. Meier is a great psychologist paired with tremendous wisdom.
It is a huge difference between not revealing a secret and not telling the truth. Even this differencies is also stated in the spiritual teaching.
If some one assume Mr. Meier and Ischwisch Ptaah are not revealing a secret is the same as they are lying about an issue, then those who can not differentiate not revealing a secret and not telling the truth, they have more to work on their logical thinking process.
Imo, not telling the truth is directed to some one/some group who has act criminal and is/are lying to cover up.
My question:
- Is Mr. Meier and Ischwisch Ptaah behind the 9/11 conspiracy and wants to cover up?
- Did they know who/which group are behind the conspiracy of 9/11, but not revealing a secret yet, because we the earthly humans have to work it out ourselves?
A controversial issue, isn't it?
For a purely hypothetical debate, it would be better to recall the content of the entire CR about the 9/11 conversation between Mr. Meier and Ischwisch Ptaah to again go through word by word.
Michael |
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