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    Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 661 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, I think Hugo raised a valid point: A freer discussion would stimulate a greater interest. A freer discussion – if it leads to some of the thoughts mentioned in the CRs or Spirit Teaching – raises more thinking about human life. Posts may be (occasionally) more detailed but would stimulate more understanding/learning/insight in life. Past posts do show that it is often these longer posts that stimulate further discussions. And more discussions will create a stronger basis for the principles expressed in the Spirit Teaching. Allowing for hyperlinks (esp. to scientific and historic events) and as I mentioned *) a more in depths presentation may sometimes be necessary to lead to the thoughts established in Billy’s and the Plejaren Spirit Teaching (as e.g. in my unpublished (too long) article re. what we may learn from Australia’s history / prehistory) The new restrictions (short articles only) do not allow for a more in depth presentation neither can we discuss topics that Billy and Ptaah commonly discuss **) Having said all that I understand that the moderators may have had their reasons to change the previous modus vivendi: I mentioned *) that we live in times of heightened tensions – esp. politically – worldwide. Above all, I, Hugo, and we all do want the mission to continue on: The intent of our writings is to assist (not to hinder) the growth of Figu. Salome, Bill (As mentioned in my unpublished response) These are my sincere thoughts. I will, however, follow the rules set out by the moderators. *) My article was not published: It was perhaps in the wrong section. A suggestion - Moderators "auto"-transfer a “misplaced” article to the correct section (they sometimes did) **) Would not Jmmanuel mention several times in the TJ that if he (Jmmanuel) does so that likewise so can all other humans? | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 838 Registered: 12-2011 |
Why do we even bother to post some ideas when they are not published and when something is said not even an answer is posted. As I said hardly any posts are coming thru and when they do they are long and not to the point. We all want to learn. joe | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2739 Registered: 12-1999 |
Bill, The Moderators had nothing to do with the "new directives"., these originated from the Core Group of 49 in Swiss and were then handed down to the Moderators for followup. The Plejarens and Billy are aware of the changes, but whether they had anything to do with suggesting these changes is unknown to me. It really is not the job of the moderators to "transfer" posts to the correct section if they are off topic. I wish there was such thing as "auto" transfer, because transferring a post to the proper section takes numerous steps and time. Some members will post a response or idea and then say "I don't know if this is the correct topic area" hoping that it lands in the right area, without really looking into the many topics which are available. In the beginning of this forum (1999) there was no moderation and people were allowed to create their own topics, but it soon became apparent to FIGU that some sort of control had to be put in place because of the increased interest being generated by the information being generated by Billy and the Plejarens. One of the Plejarens "Zafenatpaneach" was also involved in helping to resolve security issues which needed to be instituted to insure the safety of forum members when posting and protect the forum from outside influences. Bill or anyone else who feels these "directives" are too harsh or need to be modified, please either let me know and I will contact Swiss on your behalf, or feel free to contact Swiss on your own. Thank you Regards Scott | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 02-2010 |
Reference post 2739...IMO...It's great to know We will be protected from outside sources, however, We are Not protected from Ourselves. There were and are People whom disguise their intentions( use various screen names) on this forum and look to Push Their Agendas and create disharmony, confusion, etc. MsMichelle | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 386 Registered: 02-2010 |
Bill, I love most of your post but sometimes, there are an "Information OverLoad". Too Much to Consume and Understand.  MsMichelle | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 662 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, Very interesting. Thank you for clarifying the situation. I really did not know... (Corey told me of the changes) To bring back the truth, Billy’s and the Plejaren Mission is just that. And I felt that we Forum members should as well be a part of that. But ours is a time in which even country leaders become “suspects” when they want to change enmity to friendship or speak as they think = without “diplomacy”... So I can quite well understand that political discussions would be banned to ensure the safety of members… (I even leave out political segments in CRs) As for the auto-transfer: Sometimes it is – even after scanning the few still open topics - very hard to find which one would be the right one. Or – as it was in my unpublished response the case - I answered in the section in which you were mentioning my name so I replied to it in the same section (it was not under “Forum Posts”). My gut feeling is that other forum members may have had similar problems and it would be good if moderators could allocate the article to the right topic - or do I miss another unknown: To me this seems a copy-paste but you mention that it is not easy to do so? It is not wise to comment on the “other changes” before first asking what reasons the Core Group of 49 had, why they saw it necessary to change the rules: I can understand that they would ask for a reference to the Spirit Teachings or CRs. But why would they cancel many interesting non-political (e.g. science and history) topics, why would they allow only shorter mails and why do they not allow anymore the inclusion of hyperlinks backing up (non-political) articles? (If the answer is that they, too, were imposed to minimise the security risks of Forum members - I would understand that, too.) Thank you for your understanding and assistance… *) Salome, Bill *) … and may I say again it was not and is not my intent to hurt a good friend. No problem Bill, we're all learning. Thanks again for your contributions. -Scott (Message edited by scott on September 17, 2017) | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 519 Registered: 07-2006 |
One of the Primary recommendations of FIGU is to learn the German language. Right now there are so many non-German speaking individuals that have no volition to learn the German language and have become dependent on those few who have taken the initiative to learn German well enough for FIGU to grant permission to translate their copyrighted books as well as those who translate the MANY Creative Commons licensed booklets and periodical articles. FIGU has also provided an important tool to assist in the translation efforts, their FIGU dictionary which Marianne Uehlinger Mondria spends countless hours weekly updating/ adding new translation dictionary entries (thank you Marianne) just to help us more accurately translate FIGU's German texts yet most people don't even take the time to verify their Google translations of these FIGU texts, which is fine for personal translations but they then decide to publish these translations with first verifying against the FIGU dictionary. Those that have no volition to learn German are the ones that scream the loudest about there being so little FIGU information in their language to read. To those I can only recommend again - Learn the German Language - and this will free you to research any topic that FIGU has or will publish without having to wait for someone else to translate what they are interested in. Regarding the FIGU English forum rules, they are the best of any other social media platform (all though some others are attempting to incorporate those same rules) for keeping the focus of discussion on the FIGU material which is its primary purpose. Occasionally a newbee interested in some aspect of the FIGU material will join (not just this forum but also the other FIGU related social media forums) with the intention of incorporating the FIGU material into their still in-grained belief system whatever that may be and then attempting to preach their belief system using a few of the FIGU phrases, terminology and concepts they have just learned to justify what they preach as prophets of their belief system. Most who do this try to force-feed these belief systems. I am glad when these individuals are challenged in these irrational attempts. As with all the predictions and prophecies most people feel helpless and can only identify and blame everyone else as causes without solutions. FIGU has already made recommendations for the prophecies we have the ability to change, but many only ignore them and prefer to place blame, which is what the VAST majority of posts were regarding WWIII, which I personally got to the point of simply ignoring them as I'm sure was the case with others. So why even have posts that were really NOT 'related to the FIGU material' and were simply sounding blocks for some peoples anger at the world or pointers other articles mirroring their own views. FIGU states on their website: The 'Free Community of Interests' is an internationally active, non-religious and non-political community of like-minded human beings who are looking for the truth and seek to align his/her thoughts, feelings and actions to natural creational guidelines. Die 'Freie Interessengemeinschaft' ist eine international tätige, nicht-religiöse und nicht-politische Gemeinschaft gleichgesinnter Menschen, die auf der Suche nach der Wahrheit sind und sich bemühen, ihre Gedanken, Gefühle und Handlungen nach natürlich-schöpferischen Richtlinien auszurichten. Yet too many of the posts were of religious or political nature. I personally am glad the posts were brought back in line with this statement of who we are. Everyone is free to have your opinion on these topics but this forum is not the place to force-feed them as many were attempting to do. FIGU hasn't stopped providing current (up to date) information on world events that are of interest. These can be found in their periodicals which again either require you to learn German or wait for someone else to translate them into your language for you. You have the choice of which way you want it to be for you. An example of this is the latest FIGU - Sign of the times No. 77 (Sep 2017) published last week. A breakdown of the articles in English can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/Library/FIGU-Periodicals/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times-No-77 In this periodical are two VERY good articles: 1) Excerpts from the 688th official contact-discussion of 20 August 2017 this article covers topics re: current hurricanes, US-Russia-Trump, Kim Jong Un, the past proposed US-Government/Plejaren contact, the faked moon landing and serial killers. my English translation (which may contain errors) can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=MJNuw6hxInc%3d&tabid=1435&portalid=0&mid=5743 2) Important information for the circle-number pi my English translation (which may contain errors) can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Kj6j128wQHs%3d&tabid=1435&portalid=0&mid=5743 Moderators keep up the great job. Hope this wasn't too long. Salome PatM | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 388 Registered: 02-2010 |
Great Job Pat (post 519) and I appreciate your efforts are well. MsMichelle | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 759 Registered: 04-2013 |
PatM, Personally, I appreciate that you brought this dialog forward. Regarding the German language; for many folks is doable with rigorous effort; for others, learning German is much more difficult; apparently with the more senior minds/brains, learning German turns into a momentous challenge; I’d be one of the others. In taking German language courses, the challenge for myself is daunting. Many items in my residence are labeled with the German name; still working towards this goal. The alternative would be translating word for word from German to English using the FIGU dictionary, very time consuming. With that in mind, I very much appreciate those that can translate Billy’s and FIGU’s material into other languages. Nonetheless, this is also a catch-22 (a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions) as I can learn more and read further; time is not on my side. Still working on freeing myself to research any topic that FIGU has or will publish in German. Pat M, thank you for the translated links!: A breakdown of the articles in English can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/Library/FIGU-Periodicals/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times-No-77 In this periodical are two VERY good articles: 1) Excerpts from the 688th official contact-discussion of 20 August 2017 this article covers topics re: current hurricanes, US-Russia-Trump, Kim Jong Un, the past proposed US-Government/Plejaren contact, the faked moon landing and serial killers. my English translation (which may contain errors) can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=MJNuw6hxInc%3d&tabid=1435&portalid=0&mid=5743 2) Important information for the circle-number pi my English translation (which may contain errors) can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Kj6j128wQHs%3d&tabid=1435&portalid=0&mid=5743 Salome Kenneth | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 663 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Pat, Thank you for your translations and graphics – great work. And I mostly agree with what you mention. I, too, felt that political posts were "becoming dangerous". But even the current articles you mentioned (Russia- Trump- Kim Jong Un) are political topics as are many issues discussed in the Figu publications which reflect on political and religious issues. Man will always reflect on these matters. He is after all a “zoon politikon”, as one of Billy’s spirit’s previous incarnations (Aristoteles) called it. We should perhaps train our mind to see through the realities without too much emotional involvement – similar to what my unpublished (deemed too long) article wanted to highlight: AA: „Als Beschauer der Zeiten erkannte ich die Wahrheit der Dinge in ihrem Ursprung und in ihren Folgen, die ich nun durch dich in euch Menschen verständlichen Worten offenbaren werde.“ „As viewer of the times I have recognized the truth of the things in their origin and in their effects, which I will now reveal through you in to you human beings understandable words.” On first view, if we do not question the causes, time and space seem to determine the events we witness. Someone may claim to be the owner of this or that because he owned it for a certain time. But the true essence and basis of universal reality is cause and effect. Thus, when we analyse the history of mankind we will often find that the forefathers of those that fought against invasions invaded just the same. E.g. the Anglo Saxons (perhaps escaping the Huns) invaded England, They settled down and ruled the land until - some 400 years later - the Normans invaded them, doing what their forefathers did to the English… But studying the history of mankind should open our mind even further. We should not only see the localized chain of causes and effects but widen our spectrum, to see our existence as a part of a wider, global and universal evolution. IOW, we should see the events we witness in the history of our countries and in our daily life as effects to causes set in motion by ourselves or our forefathers and as a part of global history. If we make this self-reflection a part of our thinking we cannot be hateful. Life's events then become stepping stones on a path towards the self-awareness that all beings are connected and (on a very deep level) one. It will lead us to more and more discard any double standards and embrace the aspect of universal respect, love and oneness - the universal "swinging wave" which is the basis of permanent peace… ---------------------------------------- Man’s evolution is a growth in willingness to accept being part of a universal cause and effect relationship with the objective to strengthen universal love. All humans are a part of universal life, participating in thought and deed as material beings, and "consciousness pulsating" as spiritual beings (AA). "Love is the highest principle of Creation, and through it, everything exists in absolute logic." Billy Salome, Bill | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 664 Registered: 04-2011 |
"Consciousness pulsating" What I meant to express was that - this is my own understanding - the consciousness of spiritual levels (starting with AA) "pulsates" with a complete awareness of its spiritual existence - is a pure consciousness, not attached anymore to the material world. Bill | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 389 Registered: 02-2010 |
Kenneth, remember also, it's the Intention, which counts, in your endeavor to learn the German Language. MsMichelle | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 840 Registered: 12-2011 |
Bill Until we get rid of this fight gene from our system we will have wars. There is a difference between good and bad in as much as this fight gene forces us to distrust. What a waste all the armies and fighting weapons. Who gave the impulse for the atom bomb, probably the Giza boys. I cannot see the sense in such a weapon and why did creation give us such weapon. joe | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 805 Registered: 06-2006 |
Please posters, in this section, keep to the topic of 'Forum Posts' or find a relevant section to continue discussions that came from this Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 324 Registered: 05-2004 |
Has the Search function been disabled? I've been trying to search the forum for information about certain subjects and each time I get the message: "Your search did not match any messages or pages on this board." Some of the things I've been searching I had found information on in the past. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2742 Registered: 12-1999 |
Joseph, I contacted one of the Administrators about this. I also noticed this recently. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Scott | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 538 Registered: 11-2008 |
Scott, My post was denied in the "Reincarnation, Death and the Storage Banks " thread. But that's probably because I was off-topic. Fair enough. Joseph_emmanuel, If you want to search the FIGU forums via Google search then type the following: site:forum.figu.org/us/messages If for example you want to search for "storage banks" then all you have to do is enter the following in the Google search bar: site:forum.figu.org/us/messages storage banks | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 332 Registered: 05-2004 |
Kenneth, Can I have your email so that we can discuss food storage a little more in depth as there is nowhere to talk about this now on this forum? Or if you prefer, you can email me: camilleri.j.e@gmail.com | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 359 Registered: 05-2004 |
Is there a way that I can search for posts by member? The search function is still not working. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 534 Registered: 07-2006 |
In the search add member name to 'search for:' in the Look in: dropdown select 'Names of Authors' | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 379 Registered: 05-2004 |
Can we be more constructive and respectful of each other when replying to posts. Let's not forget that we are killing in ausartung when we do otherwise. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 410 Registered: 02-2010 |
Joseph, it's a good idea to speak directly to those disrespecting you, otherwise, the "person" or "screen name" may not know they are offending you. MsMichelle | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 05-2004 |
Mdmichelle I guess you're right. In this casse, Tyler thinks I am referring to him and Hugo thinks I am going overboard. I wasn't referring to you, Tyler. I was referring to Carolyn and Justsayno. Carolyn, I think Tyler can decide for himself whether or not he should reply to my posts. My question was to everyone. He chose to reply and I responded in return in the attempt to explore and understand what we were discussing. As if it wasn't enough to try to dissuade him, you then judged that I was playing mind games with him. I don't play mind games with anyone. I discuss things openly, even personal things. But that's just me. If people choose not to partake in an open discussion, that's their prerogative. Lastly, you suggested that the discussion I initiated wasn't applicable to the thread in which I started it, even trying to induce the moderator to remove it. Have I done something to offend you that you should take this attitude towards me? It is clear that you have an opinion of me. And you, Justsayno, where do you get off making a derogatory comment to the moderator, suggesting that he post the discussion in the "we used to be Catholic but we're all right now" category? I might have seen the humour in that if the disdain wasn't so blatantly obvious. These two posts were disrespectful, unconstructive and contributed nothing to my line of enquiry, which was genuine, open and well-intended. They were deliberately and unnecessarily provocative. I try to be respectful and constructive when replying to other members. If I fail in this duty, then I expect to be taken up on it. All I ask of people here is to do likewise. |
