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    Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 895 Registered: 08-2010 |
Dear Qianchu31 That is a very good question. Although I am no master of answers, I can only look to creational laws and recommendations to see if I can recognize a possible correct answer through some form of recognition. Two laws exist from which all laws stem from; namely the law of love and the law of logic. Both of these laws so far reveal that the Creation neither harms nor benefits. Creation does not punish nor reward. What is therefore perceived as reward or punishment is based on the law of cause & effect. So in further thought of this, we can conclude that it is our own actions, thoughts and deeds that have a corresponding effect of the negative or positive. Human beings learn from experience and sometimes our actions, thoughts and deeds affect others, including those alive and those to be born. The natural order of things, like seeds, have their time and place. So it is logical that over population has an effect on those personalities being born. These effects humanity will contend with and will have to consider at some point... and hopefully learn from them sooner than later. I would encourage you to study the Goblet of the Truth in order to gain an understanding of creational laws and recommendations which will lead you to further questions and many answers. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 864 Registered: 04-2013 |
Welcome Qianchu31, Good question; the direct answer would be no. *See this excerpt from Homosexuality – a Natural Occurrence in Conflict with Nature: “When the OM on page 69, verse 139, states that the homosexual joining of two men is punishable, it means that homosexual men are guilty then, when they come together in such a way that makes them capable of giving birth in an unnatural and sacrilegious manner (for instance through genetic manipulation etc.), and then have sexual relationships for the purpose of procreating descendants by this means: 139. Thus, a man transgresses against the direction of Creation in these matters if he sacrilegiously joins another man in a procreative, sexual relationship, and thereby he shall be guilty and punished for the remainder of his life to a place for fulfilling the corrective measure. And a similar measure shall also apply when a man or a woman joins with life forms of a different kind that are called animals.” https://theyflyblog.com/2016/08/01/a-species-too-stupid-to-survive/ and http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Homosexuality_-_What_is_its_Cause%3F Kenneth | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 865 Registered: 04-2013 |
Qianchu31, Keep in mind that no rebirth takes place with regards to the personality, respectively the consciousness form. A rebirth is solely and exclusively to the forever lasting immortal spirit form alone. The sprit form which enlivens humans is creational power and energy and hence a part of Creation itself. It involves an independently developing energy form of spiritual nature, which was created by Creation for the purpose to evolve in love, knowledge and wisdom etc., for one day to merge with creation and become in unity with it, whereby it also has been provided with the opportunity of evolution. As you may know, the spirit (spirit-form) never dies, but the personality ceases to exist. In other words, during reincarnation, the same spirit form occupies the human fetus on the 21st day after conception, when the spirit, respectively the spirit form establishes itself in humans. A new personality begins to form, which is not at all any longer related to the old personality. Regarding Homosexuality; as you read and study the Teaching, you’ll find out that the human thought process is very powerful. In retrospect, Billy has mentioned that when a human being thinks of himself as being male, he will most likely reincarnate as a male; the same applies with the female. However, if a person is not sure or is confused about his/her gender, homosexuality can be the result. Kenneth | ||
Anthcoss New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2018 |
Hello Qianchu31 To echo Kenneth above, the direct answer to your question is "no" - homosexuality is not nature's way to rebalance overpopulation. Homosexuality can be found in among animal species as well. From CR 182 line 315 315. Normal homosexuality and normal bisexuality are naturally against nature, but they are not reprehensible and they do not violate natural law, just as bisexual and homosexual relations among female life forms are not abnormal and are not unlawful. http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_182 I would encourage you to continue to study the Spiritual Teaching so as to deepen your own understanding (as there is more written about this topic in various of Billy's writings, amongst other very valuable lessons). Salome Anthea | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 822 Registered: 04-2011 |
Salome Qianchu31, Petale tells us that same sex relationships are a diversion that is predestined by a life form’s genes *). It may happen to any life form. You are right that “achieving a balance” is one of the major objectives of all Creational Laws – i.e. all Creation is based on a balance (equalised-ness) which mirrors the consciousness/thinking that precedes (all) Creation **) However, whether this creational directive ("to achieve a balance") may increase the incarnation of spirit forms with a genetic (sexual) diversion in times of overpopulation is not mentioned. (Petale only mentions that women can – if there are no male life forms left – create offspring by themselves) Salome, Bill ------------------------------------------------------- *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/2635.html#POST79322 **) From Billy’s book “Genesis” pages 97/98 (my translation may contain errors) 155.The equalisedness of the consciousness is the prerequisite for all creative thinking and acting. 156. This means, that only through the equalisedness of the consciousness truly creative thoughts, feelings and actions can be born and accomplished. 155. Die Ausgeglichenheit des Bewusstseins ist die Voraussetzung zu allem kreativen Denken und Handeln. 156. Das bedeutet, dass erst durch die Ausgeglichenheit des Bewusstseins wahrlich kreative Gedanken, Gefühle und Handlungen geboren und vollbracht werden können. (It further explains that in the spiritual sphere the Gemüt is responsible for the equalisedness of the spirit and its consciousness. In the material sphere the psyche is responsible for the equalisedness of the body and its consciousness) From Semjase in CR 10 127. Only a balanced mind which is rooted in the creative, in the creative service, in the creative wisdom, its knowledge, its love and joy, which are more real than all material walls around and the human environment, is valuable and serving the development of consciousness and spirit. 127. Nur ein ausgeglichener Sinn, der verwurzelt ist im Schöpferischen, im schöpferischen Diens, in der schöpferischen Weisheit, seinem Wissen, seiner Liebe und Freude, die wirklicher sind als alle materiellen Wände ringsum und die menschliche Umwelt, ist wertvoll und geistesentwicklungsdienend. | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2018 |
Hi guys, Three years ago, 24th May, 2015, 9:53 pm(Sunday), Billy and Ptaah had a conversation about "OVERPOPULATION", which is the 623th contact. We should remember that and maybe review CR623# one more time on this day. BTY...do you guys think it is feasible to open a "Contact Report Calendar" topic on the Forum? I mean, Contact Report should be reviewed time to time, and a calendar way maybe interesting. Like we leave our footprint on "that day" year by year. (Note: only leave one's footprint on the CONTACTED DAY, not simply making a record list) It's impossible for one person to do these things. So, what do you guys think? Salome ——————— Leon | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 03-2018 |
And if such a canlender has already been existed, then forgive my unknowing and show me where should i visit it. Salome ——————— Leon | ||
Anthcoss Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2018 |
An interesting idea Leon. Since it is your own creative idea why not take the initiative and start a discussion on contact 623 and see how it goes? It would of course be best to post in the appropriate topic area/s of course. Salome Anthea | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 03-2018 |
BTW...the plan of "Contact Report Calendar" is very simple as below: When the day come, you just leave a reminder or a message on the potential topic if you konw exactly that the day is a contacted day. And if you don't konw, just be noted by other's reminder will be enough, don't need to do anything. Our Forum has already have special discussion boards where we can discussion many things or topics, so...maybe we shouldn't make discussions at a calendar topic, it should just be a calendar, isn't? Salome ——————— Leon | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2018 |
Hi Anthea, A "canlender" way is more like a "REMINDER" or a "CLOCK", which reminds people don't forget something happened years ago on the same date. This "FIGU History" may always means something to us and to the future of mankind, though i can't tell what exactly it is for my present knowledge. But i do know this is more important and real than the "Existing Earth Calendars". So...my point is remind it not discuss it, like i will post another "reminder" as below after three days later: Hi guys, Forty-three years ago, 28th May, 1975, 6:17 pm (Wednesday), Billy and Semjase had a conversation about "Billy's Memory", which is the 022th contact. You see, that's it, just remind not discuss. In addition, nobody can do this alone obviously, because there are so many informations need to be organized. So, if this idea is feasible, people who have interest in this should do it together. What do you think? Salome ——————— Leon | ||
Anthcoss Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2018 |
Hi Leon, Yes I think it is a great idea.  Salome Anthea | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2018 |
Hi guys, Thirty-one years ago, May 30th, 1987, 12:02 a.m. (Saturday), Billy and Quetzal had a journey dived into the depths of the Atlantic as well as the Pacific, where they watched the deep sea animals and "black holes", which is the 218th contact. salome ——————— Leon | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2018 |
Hi guys, Thirty-eight years ago, Saturday, May 31, 1980, 2:18 am, Billy and Semjase had a conversation about Billy's painful status etc. which is the 130th contact. salome ——————— Leon | ||
Anthcoss Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2018 |
This is great Thank you Leon. When I get some time, I'll contribute to this list as well, per your example. Maybe Scott and the other moderators would be willing to create (or suggest) a special topic area for this list?Salome Anthea | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2817 Registered: 12-1999 |
There is already a topic area Contact Notes which can be used. Scott-Moderator | ||
Ajsniper Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 03-2018 |
Hi Anthea, It's good to have you doing this together, and following reminder will be post on Contact Notes topic as Scott's recommendation. Actually...last year, when personal VPN still working here, i've had visited FIGU's official Facebook&Twitter, whose info&news was updated very slow, while i thought maybe a calender can increase some "activity". Never mind...maybe it's not suitable for these official social media. Salome ——————— Leon | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 193 Registered: 02-2013 |
Maybe it's my perspective, but the English FIGU forum seems to have slowed down to a crawl. Most likely the effect of 'social' media? Salome, Jacob As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. ~ Socrates | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 173 Registered: 12-2016 |
Jacob, When you limit topics people lose interest. Look how many are closed now. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 466 Registered: 02-2010 |
Jacob, IMO, this forum was due for a "slow down" because of the constant need to talk of some to only about "politics" It was also time for some members to move on and create their own agendas, intentions, goals, etc MsMichelle | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 872 Registered: 12-2011 |
Msmichelle Not really mainly because you are now limited on what you can discuss, very poor decision by the person responsible.What does FIGU stand for. Even though there were some who had their own agenda i used to enjoy reading all the different views, now it is very mundane. joe | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 194 Registered: 02-2013 |
Hi Norm, Yes many are closed, I do not really understand the reasoning behind the closure because if you prohibit discussion about those topics over here, those discussions will start in social media like Facebook where there is little control. Hi, MsMichelle, That is one of the tasks of a moderator, they can approve or deny specific posts and inhibit people with a (hidden) agenda. I used to be a moderator here long ago, so I have some experience in this. Salome, Jacob As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. ~ Socrates | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 468 Registered: 02-2010 |
Correction, the constant need to talk about "politics" which is no different than constantly talking about "UFO's". MsMichelle | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 12-2016 |
Msmichelle, why don't you just blame me. Infact the closing of topics began years before you even got here. |
