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Jacob
Member
Post Number: 196
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 10:28 am: | 
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Hi Norm,
Well, I agree with your partially. Some topics are really useless because they give rise to speculation and conspiracy theories, etc.
Some topics I do wonder why they are closed, because I do not see any harm in hosting discussions about them.
However there are a lot of topics still open for discussion, mainly the ones related to the spirit teaching. In my opinion, the most important part.
Lets focus on the topics about consciousness-related and spiritual development.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2830
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 02:15 pm: |
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Hi Jacob and Norm,
I have been told a while back, there will be changes to the forum this year, partially because of the lack of activity. When I received this information, the forum had been a very low ebb for a few months, but recently it has picked up again. I will post new information about his when I find out. The changes to the forum last year in regards to certain topics shutting down, initially came from the CG49 with refinements coming from Christian. As you mentioned Jacob, i think they want the focus to be more on the Spirit Teaching. The Plejarens are aware of these changes, but I don't know if they had any input about the specifics.
Salome
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 877
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 02:02 pm: |
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Norm,
Your statement, “When you limit topics people lose interest.” What you said may be true; nonetheless, the scheduling of limiting these topics was timely and accurate, in my opinion.
As you know, what has been restricted was “Aging and Aggressive Genes; Ape Derived from Man; The Apollo 11 Hoax; The Natural World; all the way down to the TWA Flight 800“; a total of ~22 topics. These topics were important for us to learn, which I also found very interesting and informative, but now that chapter is over, as there is not much more to be acknowledged; we now know the truths regarding these historical and chronological events which will help guide us.
The next chapter is focusing on the core of the Teaching, which the FIGU forum is all about. I as well as others have recently researched subject material that was a little too much off topic and was not posted, I understand that; that too is a learning process. Politics and run of the mill daily news events do not pertain as much to this forum; we have been for the most part forearmed with the historical truths.
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2831
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 09:07 pm: |
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Per Ptaah 2016: 21,461 people in 116 countries are now studying Billy's material, which is a result of the KG49 and the Passive Membership. So hopefully in a small part this forum has aided in the dissemination of the teachings. |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 175
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 05:47 pm: |
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Kenneth, I'm not even talking about the topics from a few years ago I'm talking many years ago. Over time more & more limits were placed on the topics & it came to a point where you didn't know where to post your messages or where to start a discussion. And I'm not talking about News or Politics. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 556
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 08:03 pm: |
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Scott, does that mean Figu intends to open "some" topics back up to boost activity? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2832
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 09:18 pm: |
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Hugo, I know from what I have been told what the changes will be, but I'm not to mention it until it becomes official. My understanding was this was supposed to occur this year and would affect all the FIGU Forums. This has been talked about before, that due to the increased social media platforms, people have migrated over to these sites. My only concern as with Facebook etc, there may be some privacy issues which in some instances could dissuade people from using them versus this forum.... |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 557
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 09:52 pm: |
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Scott, I understand, thanks!
As Jacob mentioned earlier it would be better for Figu if discussions on Meier happened here instead of social medias as discussions here can be moderated so things like (deliberate) false information can be exposed.
How did the Plejaren come up with that figure of 21,461 people in 116 countries are now studying Billy's material? Looking at the unique IP addresses or something much deeper then that like they checking people individually? |
Jacob
Member
Post Number: 197
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 04:17 am: |
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@Scott, so around 0.0002411 % of the Earth population is studying the spirit teaching.
When calculated in absolute numbers.
@Hugo, not looking at the IP addresses.
Most likely the Plejaren scan the thought impulses from all the people and filter out which people study the spirit teaching because it is distinctively different from people with cult-religious beliefs.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Jacob
Member
Post Number: 198
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 04:31 am: |
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I think it is time that the FIGU forum changes to a forum which only discusses the spirit teaching.
Discussions about TWA800, Apollo 11 & 13 hoaxes, JFK are part of the past because:
1. They are past, unchangeable events.
2. The truth about these events cannot be used in the present or near future, its even potentially dangerous.
3. The time has come to focus mainly on conscioousness-related and spiritual development, which means that discussions about ET-technology, aging-gene, etc., are informative at best.
In my opinion, the optimal FIGU forum structure would have a focus on specifically the parts of the spirit teaching which can be applied in everyday (Earth) human life.
Ask yourself the honest question: What can I apply directly in my life from the spirit teaching?
This means applying things which are easy to do, and things which are hard to do and require a lot of effort, patience and perseverance, those things of the spirit teaching which make you look honestly and deeply at and in yourself and yield the most profound changes for the better.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 469
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 09:17 am: |
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Norm, I know you want me to blame you, but that would be inaccurate because all of us, including myself participated. My point, We cannot complain and criticize other citizens "focusing" on UFO's when we constantly talk about "Politics".
Does Politics benefits our Lives? I think the answer is obvious.
MsMichelle
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 558
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 03:25 pm: |
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Politics as an example is discussed much in the contact reports. Billy and the Plejaren can talk about politics but we are not allowed to talk about politics here. Does anyone else see the irony in that? |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 470
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 04:09 pm: |
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21,000 people out of almost 9 billion. Wow!!
MsMichelle
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 559
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 10:34 pm: |
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Jacob, maybe it's some other way the P's can tell who is studying the teachings because I'm not sure if people's thought pattern changed that much different from when before they started studying the Meier's teachings. I say this only because of my own personal experience in studying them. I was slow at changing my thought patterns when I started and a lot of times even now I still find myself rehashing old ruts of thoughts that are wrong. It's a very slow path for me!  |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 921
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 10:56 pm: |
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I would agree with Jacob.
Our short and limited time is better invested in the first recommendation which is to improve the self, followed by helping the next one.
I personally like the direction the forum is going.
Progress is best achieved when it is concentrated. The cognitions are so rewarding and refreshing, that they themselves will become the motivation to continue study and discussion.
The empowerment that comes from the cognitions is exhilarating.
What we can apply in our lives is the most valuable and worthy.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 471
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2018 - 06:14 am: |
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Hugo, what you're experiencing is Normal IMO. This is a very, very slow process. However, we are not going to progress when we cannot accept Change, meaning, This forum is going in a progressive, forward direction. Keep out the old, bring in some New, Refreshing discussions.
MsMichelle
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 472
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2018 - 06:18 am: |
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I forgot to add, The Contact Notes and the Spiritual Teaching are Two Different Things. IMO, Contact Notes are Entertainment and Spiritual Teaching is Knowledge Based
MsMichelle
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Jacob
Member
Post Number: 202
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2018 - 12:41 pm: |
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I disagree with MsMichelle, the contact notes are FAR from then 'mere' entertainment, they contain information about the spirit teaching, real psychology, true Earth history, history of mankind, interstellar travel, the truth about some mysteries like the Bermuda Triangle and much more.
The contact notes and the spiritual teaching are connected with each other, although the spiritual teaching is the most important part.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 303
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 07:31 am: |
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There has been a maturing on this forum that has taken place since this personality has been exposed to it, much more is focused on the teaching and imo less petty bickering...
The concept of millions of years of living over and over does have a neutralizing effect of the usual hustle and bustle as well as taking away much of value of achieving goals not related to spiritual knowledge and wisdom.
I have learned a lot from the many books that Billy and others have written but was wondering about the passive membership as to wether or not there is more to be found there in the newsletters or whatever is included and required.. I am starting to find more time for these things lately as I took Billy's advise about getting out of Debt and did so about a year ago, which has taken a camel off my back and also have increased my overall health as well.
Between the teaching and being healthier, many things are coming to me in the form of balance and peace that over the past 60 years have never been this good.. Finally relaxing and also perceiving reality much more..... |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 435
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 10:31 pm: |
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Redbeard,
What questions do you have regarding passive membership? I have been a passive member since 2009, and I can answer questions. Just spell the questions out methodically, and I'll do my best to answer.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Jacob
Member
Post Number: 210
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 01:22 pm: |
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Corey, if I am not mistaken, you had a dream once about the Earth in the future, can you tell a bit more about it?
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 437
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 07:02 am: |
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Hi Jacob,
My dream was fantastic. I have had several dreams of Earth in the future, but the one in particular I think you are referring to took place a couple of centuries in the future, by then we had Mars as a settlement planet, and there was a planetary language that was very cultured, cultivated, and refined, that had very ancient ties to it, it could have been German. All I can say was it was perfected by our descendants, which is why I say it was "cultivated", almost nurtured in a way into a blossoming planetary language that has very ancient ties, yet was very futuristic. This was all part of a great planetary awakening, where much of Earth's problems were solved, IE there were population reductions and controls, and some other things that it is too early to mention, but you may ask yourself "A great awakening, yeah right, how can this be possible?". All I can say is I am reminded of contact 115, which states from Semjase that 100 years after the mission-inception (2075) the mission will have it's full effect, and my thinking is this may carry forward into the future, which could be the significance of my dream. It was a very beautiful thing, my dream.
And if my dream comes true, I want to be a part of it with my successor personalities. There is not just some blank time-frame of 800 years, with a big hole between then and now, where nothing positive happens. It'll come true if people make the future come alive by their actions, thoughts, and deeds. Even Semjase mentions the 800 year timeframe in contact 115, but she distinctly says in 2075 the mission will have it's full effect, and from what she alluded to, Billy's spirit-form will be reborn with it's new consciousness-block and personality in the seat of it all (presumably Switzerland) in the new thought structure for Earth humanity that he was responsible for with his predecessor personality of BEAM, 
Thanks Jacob for asking about my dream, I am prepared to be ridiculed by others for my dream, but I know what I saw.~
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 881
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 09:01 am: |
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Corey my friend, you said that you are, “…prepared to be ridiculed by others for my dream…” In most every case it’s the lesser spiritually evolved that do not comprehend spiritual insights of others. We in the Age of Aquarius are supposed to have outgrown the time of visible proof of the truth.
“Proof in today’s Age of Aquarius is provided by human reason, the understanding mind and the infallible logic of truth. This can truly only be accomplished by hard spiritual thought work.”
Semjase
Salome
Kenneth |
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