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Mosaki
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 11:59 am: | 
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I think that sounds wonderful, Corey. Dreams can be very intriguing and informative and I would never think to ridicule you for sharing a part of yourself. I find it fascinating and something to definitely reflect on. We know our dreams help us work things out in our daily lives. I would contemplate it and see if you get any realizations from it.
Salome,
Melissa Osaki
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Jacob
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Post Number: 212
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 12:07 pm: |
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Hi, Corey,
I am genuinely interested in your dream because it could be indeed a glimpse of the future, what will happen.
You can be sure that your successor personalities will be part of this, but you also have to understand that in the coming lives, your lifespan each new lifetime, could be (much) longer.
Think of this, that in a later life, your new personality could be born in the 26th century, and that you would live up to the 29th century and witness the change for better in just one lifetime and then die as an old man or woman.
When I think of your dream and I close my eyes, I do envision myself being there as well, but I also see a world scarred, it looks a bit different, its still unmistakably the Earth but some countries are non-existent, some have totally different shorelines, some are barren, however the Earth is green and clean again, but still bares the scars of past millennia. I even saw beamships flying around when I focused on your dream and the total absence of roads, the infrastructure as we know it, is gone.
My own dream, I explained that one on this forum years ago and was one of the far past, it was technically very advanced, but in a setting of thousands of years ago, also unmistakably the Earth, but much cleaner, wilder, greener, and a lot more forests, etc.
This was also the dream that prompted me to ask Billy directly, in person, if I was directly connected to the mission.
I got an answer later from Billy via Christian that the first personality of my spirit-form who actually died here, arrived here 13,500 years ago. Billy even gave the name of that former personality.
I cherish that knowledge to this day. I had later the opportunity to ask Billy how he did obtain this knowledge and he explained it very easily: He contacted the high council, the high council contacted Arahat Athersata and Arahat Athersata informed Billy about my previous personalities. I was really impressed to say the least!
So, I know now that 'my' history = (that of my spiritform) on this planet is a very short one, just a bit over a dozen millennia.
I think your future dream tells you that you are also part of that group and will live again around that time, while my dream tells me, my current personality, that I am part of that group as well and will also live during those times again.
Dreams are very important, they can teach us a lot, thank you for sharing, I must honestly say that your dream made me happy and hopeful, because it does resembles the distant future predictions that the Earth will be a 'paradise' once again.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Hugo
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Post Number: 570
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 04:08 pm: |
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Jacob, great!
If your spirit form arrived here 13,500 years ago what group of ET spirits does that belong too? (I forgot) The ones that are bound to helping Billy's mission? |
Scott
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Post Number: 2844
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 07:20 pm: |
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Can we please get back to the topic heading, which is having to do with FIGU. Hugo, no one is bound to the Mission, this was the case years ago, but is no longer in affect. |
Jacob
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Friday, July 27, 2018 - 11:09 am: |
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FIGU is the organization that is a natural development of the mission, it is the core-block from which the truth will be spread out on this world.
In answer to your question, my personality then belonged to, what CG members at FIGU (at least what I have personally heard from the late Silvano), 'Henoch's team' / Henoch 1, the 'Getreuer'.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 474
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 01:01 pm: |
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Corey, your dream sounds fantastic to me!!!
MsMichelle
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Corey
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Post Number: 439
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 12:18 am: |
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How to respond to everyone's great words (thanks everyone!), and yet try to stay within the guidelines of staying in topic?
If my dream was indeed a glimpse into the real future of this planet, and the Earth indeed becomes more truth-centered, it will be because of FIGU, because of the people who are involved in it, because of the "Goblet of the Truth", and it will be because of the scarring upcoming destruction that can lay the seeds for a future civilization that learns profusely from arrogant mistakes and learns that a volatile nature must be overcome courageously by willingly following the recommendations of BEAM and FIGU down to the very last letter.~
In the words of the 90's English-born musician Seal "we are never gonna survive, unless we get a little crazy!". He meant try something different. My vote is we try the societal laws and recommendations of the Creation found in the "Goblet of the Truth" such as gewaltsame Gewaltlosigket and humane banishment practices, and for following a birth-stop which is an old practice among the Plejaren they still use (birth-rate checks).~
If world governments would call a birth-stop, then break open the tight seal on the secret sciences by using the world's media to educate the everyday Joe on the street (and the people on the bottom of our society) about the dangers of overpopulation, and use the world's media to educate the people of Earth about the present and future problems associated with overpopulation, and afterwards then the world governments would modestly ask BEAM to ask the Plejaren for scientific-developmental impulses for better birth control (the best in the universe) for Earth males and Earth females, I'm sure if the Plejaren saw some action on the part of world governments first, the Plejaren could oblige on behalf of the people of Earth in the form of better impulses for better birth-control development. in fact, they might even be stunned we asked in a good way.~
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 10:07 am: |
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Regarding these dreams,
We've learned from Billy how dreams can be portals to the unknown, so thereby a past (through Jacob's) and the future (through Corey's).
On the day of her passing (death), my wife told me of her dream which hours later depicted my own experience with her. She told me that in her dream we got pulled over by the police. As the officer was approaching the car, I fell asleep. She kept trying to shake me to wake me up. When the officer arrived, she explained that I fell asleep and would not wake up. The officer asked her what my name is and she told him "Eddie". She said the officer then began to shake me and called out; "wake up Eddie, wake up".
Hours later that day, while at the bank she was seated as I spoke with the banker. Someone called out and I went to her. She appeared to be asleep. I tried shaking her to wake her up. The paramedics arrived and they laid her on the floor. One of the paramedics asked me what her name was. I told him, "Lucy". He then began to shake her and saying; "wake up Lucy, wake up".
So as Billy has explained, our dreams have creational purpose, and the wise will consider them in a neutral-positive equalized wise and seek any value that may be found.
Based on my observations and interactions with friends and children, as well as what I have observed of children, I can perceive the values contained in Jacob's dream visions and Corey's dream visions.
This planet has a magnificent past with extraterrestrials and their technologies, their commitment to be assistive to the Prophet and stumbling through their lives to gain knowledge and experience that makes them effective in their lives. Even committing stupid things.
I can also recognize how the younger generations now (and will) need our input and actions to be helpful to them to steer things in the better and best direction on this planet while we are alive and when we are in the beyond awaiting our next life time.
I am actually looking forward to the next life time. If everyone aware of the spiritual teaching made the decision and the effort, we could easily shorten the time frame of 800 years.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 01:53 pm: |
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Corey... you are a person regarded as a perfect example of quality and the expression of truth and love to us all.
Msmichelle... I wish to always express my happiness and kudos for your responses on this site so that we all can begin to learn to walk the walk and to talk the talk of unconditional love/tough love in this lifetime and all that is to come of it!
Let us all always walk this red road of truth and be justified through our past pains and sorrows to take a firm approach to this and all lessons a discernment/perspective of both heart and the spirit form.
And to successfully express and share that which we can be willing to do in order that we are to walk the true path through the study and application of Nokodemians teachings!
And to apply that which is learned with all others. And not to apostatize things but rather have all others freely come into our light without a price tag being held over their heads! We could adjust by being in a round robin situation such as is on this site.
I don't know... Maybe I'm just a fool for saying this but we all hold the keys to what we are looking for in this life living with the fact that we are... being one and the same in this life and of all those to come.
It important in this day and age for us to delve together into the true meaning of it all with open minds and hearts!
Mat/bronzedesk-team 333.
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 851
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 07:05 pm: |
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Excellent contributions everyone.
Great to see this unity and sense of oneness:
It will determine the strength of our mission.
Dreams create goals and goals create reality.
But in truth, nothing begins and nothing ends, there only is oneness.
Salome,
Bill
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Semjase CR 10
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_010
104. Nothing negative within the endless universe may touch and enslave him anymore
105. In addition to this creative-philosophical consciousness comes the practical, dynamic, creative, i.e. the mystical consciousness that consists of the perception of the one reality in all things.
106. Therefore the human being has to be a practical philosopher and mystic and perceive the reality in its changeable, passing forms
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German Original
104. Nichts Negatives im unendlichen Universum kann ihn mehr berühren und versklaven.
105. Zu diesem schöpferisch-philosophischen Bewusstsein hinzu kommt noch das praktische, dynamische, schöpferische; d.h., das mystische Bewusstsein, das aus der Wahrnehmung der einen Wirklichkeit in allen Dingen besteht.
106. Der Mensch sei daher praktischer Philosoph und Mystiker und nehme die Wirklichkeit in den wandelbaren vergänglichen Formen wahr.
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He who experiences the unity of life sees his own self in all beings, and all beings in his own self (Buddha) |
Jacob
Member
Post Number: 215
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 02:44 am: |
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Nice to see the FIGU forum active like this.
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Arnoud
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 06-2016
| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2018 - 07:48 am: |
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Hi Jacob (and others), I am looking for any Dutch persons here, Michael Horn told me about a Jacob Smits, that is using the FIGU forum(s). Are you that Jacob?
It would be nice to talk/write some Dutch sometimes ;)
Salome,
Arnoud |
Melvyn
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2018
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2018 - 10:08 am: |
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hi..if the creational laws are broken due to overpopulation and were incarnating much sooner now..is it possible their are knock on effects in other areas? plus..if creation structured it so each human is bound to their birth world then what happened when the bad humans came here and interbread with us...the offspring would of been half and half so how was it decided where they incarnate? thanks for anyone who can help me with my ramblings hugs and smiles |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 943
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2018 - 05:59 pm: |
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Hello Melvyn
Those are good questions. Overpopulation affects many areas, for example society, inter-relations, etc.
As to your other question, it is logical that cross-breeding simply provides a human embryo where a spiritform and its consciousness block can incarnate and begin life as a fetus.
We should keep in mind that a human, from anywhere in the universe is still a human being. The physical condition is irrelevant because people are born blind, without a limb or in very good health.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 905
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 - 11:57 am: |
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Greeting Melvyn,
Welcome to the FIGU forum. Wouldn’t consider your questions as ramblings; they’re very good questions.
Your first question, “…on effects in other areas?” There are several:
You are correct regarding overpopulation, “Earth's population is plagued by famines, energy shortages, epidemics, environmental pollution, degeneration, terrorism, dictatorship, anarchism, slavery, excessive increase of waste materials, racial hatred, food shortages, destruction of rain forests, the "greenhouse effect", pollution of lakes, streams and oceans, hatred towards asylum-seekers; radioactive emissions, chemical pollution of water, air, plants, food, human beings and animals. Crime, murder, mass murders, manslaughter; alcoholism, hatred of strangers, oppression, hatred of one's fellowman, extremism, sectarianism, drug addiction, overpopulation, annihilation of animal species, war, violence, torture and capital punishment, general mismanagement, water contamination, eradication of plant species; hatred, vice, jealousy, lovelessness, lack of logic, false humanitarianism, lack of housing, increased traffic, destruction of arable land, unemployment, the collapse of health care, the collapse of care for the elderly, destruction of nature, the collapse of solid waste removal, and the lack of living space, among others."
Regarding your second question: “what happened when the bad humans came here and interbread with us…”
As you said, the offspring would be half and half, so to speak. However, depending on the continent location (region) and ethnicity (culture) race etc., usually determines where that particular spiritform will incarnate next time. Don’t get personalities confused with the spirit (spiritform). Personalities end with the death of the human physical body, never to reappear.
In other words, back in the day, if the offspring were born in mainland Africa, and died there, that’s most likely where the next incarnation of that particular spiritform would take place. Similarly, if the offspring occurred in mainland Europe or India etc., this is most likely where that spiritform would reincarnate.
The spiritform enters the fetus on the 21st day of gestation; usually planet, country, region, race and technological development specific, but not at all times, and not necessarily as the same gender, as I understand it?
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Overpopulation_Crusade |
Corey
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 - 02:22 pm: |
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Melvyn,
Overpopulation affects the time spent in the beyond in-between lives, by shortening the duration spent in the beyond which should have been time spent with the overall consciousness-block "programming" the new personality (and new consciousness-block) which will enliven the bearer of the reincarnating spirit-form. This lack of "programming" results in consciousness confusion, lack of a firm foundation under one's (new) feet, and a variety of disorders, programming a new personality by the overall consciousness-block takes years, and all this is shortened. Overpopulation has made a serious mess of things, however, to the best of my knowledge, overpopulation does not affect things such as what parents and family you are born into, and what country you are born into all are still determined by creational laws of swinging-waves (which are determined by cause and effect). Even though you live on a planet with overpopulation which possibly means your personality wasn't fully "programmed" by the overall consciousness-block the last time you were in the beyond, the best thing you can do is try to learn and live the laws and recommendations of the Creation, which are taught by the teaching of the prophets in books such as "Goblet of the Truth".
The planet you are bound to has to do with what world you last died onto. If someone from outer space comes to Earth, and procreates offspring with an Earther, the child will be bound to Earth (as their reincarnation planet) and the child will posses a terrestrial spirit-form if the child's mother was in orbit during the 21st day after conception. The only exception would be if the child would then be relocated to the home planet of the ET, the child's terrestrial spirit-form would be bound to the new planet if it dies there. If the mother was on some other planet during the 21st day of conception, the new planet would provide the reincarnating human (OMEDAM) spirit-form.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."
22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Votan
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Post Number: 878
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2018 - 11:59 am: |
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Corey
Sounds interesting,but how do we know that it is true.
joe
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 449
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2018 - 07:02 pm: |
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Votan (Joe),
The results of my investigation into the Meier case, between the "photo inventory" book I purchased, photographs of beamships I purchased from the mother center, Wendell Stevens interviews, Christian Frehner interviews, BEAM interviews, MH interviews and DVD's, letters and emails to the mother center, letters and emails to Michael Horn, a labor intensive "Meier case validation" research-crusade from internet headlines, magazine articles, and newspaper articles, etc vs. contact reports and etc, the FIGU forum archives, and the supplemental investigation report from Wendell Stevens I concluded that the Meier case was unequivocally true fact. I didn't even need the "book of witnesses" I purchased that contains interviews of people close to Billy who passed lie detector tests, who saw beamships, had experiences, etc.
As I began getting to the core of, then disassembling then detaching my system of beliefs I realized I would only accept as truth what I can prove through logic. How do I know post #448 is truth? This is because I have proven through logical thinking after studying the answers for reincarnation (and books) from BEAM for many years. Good luck to you. :-)
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."
22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Tjg
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2018
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 07:06 pm: |
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HI
About two years ago, just a few days after I konw billy, I have read that the USA would decline in 2020, but the USA still have chance to change the future, so what about now, Is it unchangeable in 2020? |
Hugo
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Post Number: 590
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 08:13 pm: |
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Tjg, it looks unchangeable. |
Votan
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Post Number: 879
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 01:28 pm: |
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Tjg
Unfortunately the way it is heading now nothing can change the prediction.People are very selfish the fall of another great empire.Vanity takes it all.
joe
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 907
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 - 12:46 pm: |
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Tjg, Welcome to the FIGU forum.
Hugo, Votan and others are unfortunately correct.
Nonetheless, there exists a very slim improbable possibility to correct some of this!? For starters that would be:
Immediately, “world population must be reduced to a reasonable size through a worldwide and controlled birth stop.”
“…a peace-fighting troop is a multinational composition of trained military men and women. Every country trains for this purpose, proportional to its size and population…”
Religion exposed to what it really is… and replace it for the most part with, “Teaching of spirit, the teaching of life, the teaching of truth and therefore the teaching of the truth of the laws and recommendations of the primal power of all existence, Creation.”
This would be a good start, regrettably, I don’t see this happening either.
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Votan
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Post Number: 880
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 - 07:33 pm: |
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Kenneth
You are so correct generally people are so guilable that they believe anything you tell them. They cannot think for themselves because it is too hard.
When we wake up then it will be too late.
joe
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