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    Str0323 Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hello everyone. I've been studying the spiritual teaching for about eight years. Myself I suffer from depression which in no way am I making an excuse for my thinking. It truly is hard for me because I feel lonely. There isn't anyone I know that will investigate the spiritual teaching for themselves. I don't comment often on the forum. However when I read the petty bullshit that people complain about it makes me depressed. When I recognize that we, the miniscule percentage of earth human beings that see the truthfulness of the spiritual teaching argue about things contained therein I wonder how many human beings are turned off to the study. If you take the critique of any words personal then don't post here. To me you all sound like a bunch of weak sniveling cowards. A human being who is searching for the truth by him or herself and comes here, the one place where they may attain some truthful knowledge, read how even here these so called knowing ones can't get over their own ego, then surely it must be a disappointment and discouraging. Salome, Scott Reed. | ||
Carolyn Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 05-2017 |
As most people in this forum already know, I am a church attending Roman Catholic person. I wish to know more about FIGU and the Mission, and do think that for the most part Billy Meier is being very truthful about his status as the re-incarnated spirit of both Henok and Nokodemion. Being Catholic doesn't mean that I'm gullible, stupid or brainwashed. It simply means that I am a follower of the Christian faith. This faith has helped sustain me through a somewhat difficult time, that if I had not had Christian friends, I would have had a lot of trouble living through! Again, my experiences belong in the realm of the "personal" and not the "public" forum and I'm not inclined to share my personal struggles, revelations and so on with a bunch of people who tend to want to vilify the religious group to which I belong. Joseph_Emmanuel. . . .you have chosen a name with a certain religious connotation for your "pen" name in this group, your alias. If you are not a Christian, I think you should change that name. This group is not friendly towards Christians. The mind game I might accuse you of is posing as a Christian, by your choice of name, when in fact you aren't. If you are a Christian, then you shouldn't hide behind a status of "unknowing" thirsting for knowledge-ness. You will know more about most of the subject matter being discussed here than others in the forum. Sohar is an esoteric topic, which Billy doesn't speak about very much, and belongs in the realm of Jewish esoteric knowledge. . . . which is not known except to people who have studied the Jewish Talmud. A time for every purpose under heaven | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 295 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hey there Str0323- Scott It is difficult to navigate and associate on this forum. Truly our maturity level shows with every post. Anytime that you are not in a face to face conversation many people including myself can easily get caught up in a rant. This forum does a lot of good for many but the real progress is made with someone else of like mind and physical location and dedication to the painful truth of our lowly yet challenging position that this planet is in at this time. I have reached out to and tested many people that I thought could handle something this life changing with sad results. Interestingly my son who has battled with other health issues as well as depression is the only one that grabbed on to it and recognized it as the truth and has studied with me on many topics. If I could I would like to connect with people more that I do. Alas my wife is christian brainwashed to a hopeless degree so that limits my homelife discussions a lot with her around. I have no fear of people as I used to, mistakenly thinking of myself as inferior to others. The teachings and the truth has ripped down the facade of the classes for me. I have high hopes for my fellow men as well as myself, if people could be honest, real and fearless it would make communication and life so much more productive. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone, just everyone.......we must have hope, we must be strong, and we must correct each other when we are in error. Thanks for your post.... | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 844 Registered: 08-2010 |
Scott Reed, I understand your frustration ...as well as your disappointment and observation. In the Goblet of the Truth, what is referred to as "the knowing ones", these are the individuals who take their study seriously. Those on this forum and elsewhere who seriously study the spiritual teaching make all attempts to contribute and assist ...here on this forum and elsewhere. I have accepted the fact that the spiritual teaching have just recently been introduced in written form for anyone to study. Many on this forum and elsewhere have yet to decide to arduously study. So they stagnate and are under assumption that they "know" what the spiritual teaching is simply in that it is about there being no Gods, Devils, heavens or a hell. That and there is human life outside of planet Earth. Then you have those who came here as antagonists towards the Meier case and all those who take Billy's words seriously. I've let go of frustrations and only suffer very mild disappointment and have concluded that this forum and others simply reflect today's stage of evolution and cognizance. I do my best to be helpful, but I will walk away from someone if they show any sign of insincerity or disinterest in the creational truths. A creational recommendation says that those who actually study should offer a counter-balance to unknowledge. But only so long as it is not apposed or if it is welcomed. The integrity of the person will reveal this. By the way, referring to depression (I too used to suffer with it); in a movie called "What The (Bleep)" (Found on YouTube) ...you can find the segment on YouTube that gave some insight on depression and other similar factors. Turns out peptides have a lot to do with it ...I found it correlating with what I found in the Goblet of the Truth and the Might Of The Thoughts. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 412 Registered: 02-2010 |
Scott R, unfortunately, disagreements, arguments, conflicts, are Necessary for Our Developments. We all come from all Walks of Life, different Countries, Ethnicity, Cultures, etc. Depression comes from within, no one "gives" you depression. This Forum does not cause "your depression". I consider everyone on this Forum as my Family. We Love and Hate each other, but I would personally protect You from Harm, etc say...If we were living together in a small community...( I sense will happen in with our "future personalities".) We will not "escape" difficulties, discord, problems, disappointments, etc. That's why we are here. Caroyln, you have a lot of courage to admit your devotion to Christianity, but I admire you for your willingness to understand this material with an open mind. You are a part of the billions of people infused with a religious upbringing and it's is very difficult to just "leave" a part of your whole life. MsMichelle | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 858 Registered: 12-2011 |
Carolyn Being a Christian or even a Roman Catholic means that you a brain washed. I was brought up one also I questioned the religion when I went to a catholic school. They rammed religion down my throat. One day when doing the station of the cross I thought hey what is going on here if you are not supposed to idolise images what is the photos of the station of cross and all images in church. Also if you are insecure in life you turn to religion. joe | ||
Tyler Member Post Number: 165 Registered: 03-2017 |
I'm with you there, Redbeard. ... ... ... Actually, I now have an idea brewing in the cauldron. Does anyone know any good computer software for creating simple instructional videos? | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 05-2004 |
Carolyn You are free to believe what you want, regardless of the attitudes of FIGU members on this forum towards the Christian faith, or any faith, for that matter. It does beg the question though why you are here given that you are fully aware that religious thought and knowledge conflict with the spiritual teaching. There must be some part of you that is open to having your beliefs questioned, otherwise what is the point? You say you accept the truthfulness of Billy Meier’s mission. That is a good place to start, and an interesting one, because already, in your consciousness, the seed is sowed. Think what can be gained from this in the next life. Your consciousness is in transition. The next personality is likely to have religious affiliations, just as you do now, but the impulses from what you learn here in this current life would create an inner conflict within the new personality that would cause that person to question his or her faith. This conflict could be stronger than what you feel now because the new personality won’t know where it has come from and will be less resistant to it. I would suggest to you to leave out the religious references on this forum, as there’s nothing to be gained from it, unless you are questioning them, in which case members should respond respectfully and constructively. Offensive criticism is only justified when it conveys the truth according to logic. One should take care to consider other peoples’ feelings at all times, but not at the expense of truth. However, should you disregard the sensibilities of members of this forum, knowing full well where we stand, then you bring it upon yourself. Fundamentally we must all take responsibility to be respectful and tolerant of each other, if we are to co-exist. It is childish to cause offence because another has caused offence. Now... regarding the matter of my name. You judge me unfairly, though I must admit to getting off on its religious connotation; but that’s transferable seeing as we have the Talmud of Jmmanuel. I get off on that too. The name of the father and the son. It’s actually my real name. I could change it, but I like the sound of it. Nobody calls me Joseph Emmanuel. Joseph is my first name and Emmanuel is my second name, which is also my sex name. I think it has good energy. I’m certainly not posing as a Christian. This is an issue you have that you are trying to reflect on me. Don’t judge me by my name. My name tells you nothing about me other than what I am called. | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2017 |
Hi Scott, I hear you. Hi Carolyn, What if, just what if, most, if not all "esoteric knowledge" was simply knowledge long before the "religious" got their hands on it? And since when has the name Emmanuel been associated with christianity? - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2767 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please lets get back to the topic, this is not about religious preferences, identities, but on posting to the forum ie;, length of posts, how to etc....Thank you | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 12-2016 |
Matthew 1. 23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Here is the corrected version of this passage which appears in the TJ Chapter 1, line 87: She will call the fruit of her womb Jmmanuel, which translated means "the one with JHWH knowledge', as a symbol and honour to the JHWH, through whose power and providential care the Earth was made to bear intelligent human life again in a new form when the celestial sons, the travellers from the far reaches of the depths of the firmament (outer space, universe), mated with the wild pre-women (primal women, women of early times) of Earth. (Message edited by scott on October 29, 2017) | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 543 Registered: 07-2006 |
Carolyn and anyone else interested, I recommend you read 'FIGU in a Nutshell' to understand what this group is and isn't. It can be found here: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zVYAOLBXVHM%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0 Hope this helps Salome PatM | ||
Str0323 Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hello and thank you to everyone. The words of my previous post may sound terse to some. However my point is this: There are many human beings on this forum who have more knowledge and a better understanding of the spiritual teaching than myself. I'm here to gain knowledge. My life is half over. I'm not searching for human beings who simply agree to appease or that argue a point for the orgasmic stroking of their own back. Peace with love, Salome,Scott Reed. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 391 Registered: 05-2004 |
Tyler, In future, please don't reply to my posts in the manner that you did in the section The Spirit, Spirit Forms, and the Psyche (post no. 168). I know it is the motto here "to assist others,", but you should do that only when asked; and I didn't ask. I found it presumptuous and patronizing to say the least, and didn't take too kindly to it. If you can't, or choose not to, reply to my posts with an appropriate and relevant response--that is, with a reply that further elaborates or offers a different viewpoint on the questions and queries I pose--then I suggest you say nothing. That goes for everyone else here who take it upon themselves to offer their unwarranted opinion. I'm not interested. I try to keep to the theme of each section when posting. I suggest you all do also. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 414 Registered: 02-2010 |
Joseph, I'm just curious, You spend Lots of Time posting on the forum esp within the last Year and I'm interested in How much Time you're investing in Studying this Material? MsMichelle | ||
Arnoud Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2016 |
Hi guys, Since a few days I am no longer able to access the futureofmankind.co.uk website. I get a time-out error message. I tried to clean temp internet files, cookies etc. and tried several browsers. Today I checked at work, and there, I could access the site without any problem. Any ideas? P.s. About 2-3 weeks ago I made a website backup with WinHTTrack for personal offline use only, and because I had some wrong setting with external parsing on active, it created an immense database over 20 Gb. Anyone any ideas? Would it be possible that the site blocks my IP from accessing the site because of my actions? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2771 Registered: 12-1999 |
Arnoud the site is down, Last time this happened one of the hard discs failed. If I can find out, I will post info. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2772 Registered: 12-1999 |
Try this http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Main_Page | ||
Arnoud Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2016 |
Hi Scott, okay thanks for the info. It took a bit longer, but your link does indeed load. Thanks! | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2017 |
I was wondering if my post #9: G'day Newinitiation, Semjase answered a question of BEAM's that could be what you're looking for, straight after her 42nd sentence in Contact Report 119. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_119#section_2 (http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/46.html?1511258782#POST84049) would be better if I had posted it as follows: G'day Newinitiation, Semjase answered a question of BEAM's that could be what you're looking for, straight after her 42nd sentence in Contact Report 119: Billy: Thanks, then still a very unusual question: You once told me in confidence that the so-called criminality could be repaired scientifically and medically if this would only be striven for. You told me at that time that some toxin develops in excess in the human being for some reason, which makes him criminal. What is this toxin called and what, then, should be done against it? Semjase: 43. The toxin is called phenylethylamine. 44. If this is neutralized in the human body, then through this, that substance is made ineffective, which drives the human being to criminality. 45. I may not explain more about that, however. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_119 Disclaimer: One must take only about 15% of what I have to say seriously, the remainder is an attempt (I know, sometimes a futile action) to put a smile on your dial.  Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 949 Registered: 04-2013 |
Just a Recommendation, Many on this FIGU blog are very knowledgeable regarding the Contact Reports, the Teaching and etc. Time permitting, it would be good if acronyms could be spelled out at least once in a particular posting. One newer member that I know of, ‘which means there may be others’, that lose interest as the Teaching is challenging enough for many neophytes let alone not knowing what many acronyms and abbreviation stand for? For instance, in this sentence; IMHO, TWtL by BEAM’s REC via CR’s from T’s & P’s to INCL LIT of GOT & FoM etc. to INCL US, UK & EU, IOW no NDE or DOofD. All of which were taken from FIGU postings. . . Just a thought? Salome | ||
Str0323 Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 02-2012 |
I second that recommendation. Salome Scott. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 731 Registered: 04-2015 |
Just checking to see if everything is ok with the forum because it's been 5-6 days now with no new posts. |
