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Msmichelle
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Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's funny, how some of you have "peddled" nothing but doom and gloom for years, yet, once the "effects" take hold and run rampage throughout our world, we then say, "please no more bad news". In other words, once the "reaping what we've sown" has shown its "ugly head", we attempt to "balance things out". Well, personally, I like Matt Lee's assessments of China, and I like Bill's assessments as well, however, we cannot "stick our fingers in our ears" and "hope" this will all go away. It's too late, we cannot undo what's has been done. So, get use to "bad news" and take a look at your "involvements" in causing these events to happen and vow to accept responsibility.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi - "So, when it happened in China, there was no pre-knowledge of how severe this virus may be.
But many other governments in our world, they had this knowledge, could see the danger, knew the deaths it caused – but they still did nothing - to protect their economy...
It would be fair to acknowledge that they had – different to China – the advantage of knowing how severe this pandemic was."



My opinion is our powers saw this coming and deliberately acted too late because they saw they could use this crisis to enact their planned ban on cash and dispossess people of their property and rights as was prophecized by Meier. The Federal Reserve (and other world banks) is bailing out everybody and buying everything, even private and business mortgage loans. So soon they'll practically own everything as Meier foretold (Meier - "the people will be dispossessed"). And they are already talking about banning cash (to avoid catching virus) and replacing the dollar with a digital currency. (Meier - "if things go a certain way you might as well roll cigarettes with your paper money") And our world powers already have us in lock down and are taking away our rights with draconian laws. How long before they roll out the bio-chips?

How does the saying goes about our powers? They never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Markv
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Posted on Monday, March 30, 2020 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MsMichelle,

I'm not sure about/to whom you're speaking in particular, but I'll take it upon myself to make the following alternative proposal:

How about we cool it with the self-righteous authoritarianism, finger-pointing, Schadenfreude, etc., and, instead, simply get ready to weather the storm as best as we can while, simultaneously, maintaining/striving for clarity, neutral-positive thinking, rationality, Naechstenliebe, etc.?

---

I'm not particularly worried because I've had the possibility of this scenario occurring in my mind for over a decade now, but I have observed many losing their minds over their retirement funds vanishing before their eyes. So, in the meantime, I've been reading up on wild edible/medicinal plants, agriculture, collecting seeds, acquiring fishing/hunting tools, etc.

Honestly, I'm somewhat relieved. It doesn't look to be as bad as WW3/4 would be (with the Northern hemisphere becoming uninhabitable, etc.), and if the economies collapse, it would stand to reason that births would slow down, plus resources for wars (funds, supplies, public support, soldiers) would dwindle.

If anything, this can be harnessed and used for the good. I've seen how people behave after disasters, they largely tend to band together and, selflessly, help eachother out.
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Monday, March 30, 2020 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MarkV, not sure where you've been (have not seen many posts from you) or where you're going, however, we all need to "cool it" and study the spiritual teaching and stop expecting anything else regarding our present situation.
If anyone is surprised at the developments in our "world" currently, then you are distracted, dishonest, delusional, distant, dangerous, etc.
This was bound to happen, and now we're attempting to "expect" the majority of the people to listen?
As far as myself, I'm as "prepared" as I can possibly be, however, we are all "caught up in this madness together" via the breath
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Hugo
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Posted on Monday, March 30, 2020 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

re - "I've seen how people behave after disasters, they largely tend to band together and, selflessly, help each other out."


Markv, during the 1929 depression people did just that by helping each other out but this coming depression people will not be like that because people nowadays are indifferent to each other. I was researching how many people helped each other out during the 1929 depression by doing things like people feeding strangers or even letting them move into their house temporarily. I doubt much of that with happen this coming depression.

The Japanese people are the best at helping each other out during disasters. I remember reading in the notes how Ptaah gave them much praise at how they help each other out during disasters. He said even the crime gangs helped out too. And there is no looting there like there is in Western nations.
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lately i have been wondering if Trump will delay the election and repercusions of that, would it cause civil unrest/war?

Also France next year (if logic dosnt hold sway), if economy weakens and virus reapears after a long lockdown, will the invited aggressors Billy mentions take control of weapons of mass destruction in France and blackmail the army to invade England. Countries with disease,short on supplies and going bankrupt will find it difficult.

The economies of the world wont last more than 6 months paying people to stay home.

We all know logic atm dosnt hold sway.

Its been an interesting 12 months in oz, severe drought,fires,floods,covid.

We are meant to be able to experience great turmoil/destruction and not be phased once The Creational peace settles in us, If you feel fear continue your studies of Billys work. The next few hundred years will be memorable, I ask my spirit to make it so i can look back without regrets, that i calmly overcome all obstacles, that i dont repeat mistakes, i see and understand the lessons in the negatives, that my powers unfold.

Sometimes i ponder what i need to read (in meditation) then i have a poke around on futureofmankind and more often than not i find what i need. I was very systematic until i read the free english work twice. started at cnote 1 then just read them all in sequence. Doing the meditations often.

I have bought a few years worth of tea light candles as they are mostly made in china. I love doing the candle/sun meditation rofl eh eh. Only $6 per hundred at target
and $2.50 for 48 of the thinner ones for oil burners at kmart.
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just realized where it prophecizes the US civil wars it goes on to describe the situation we are now in with the virus. And I always thought they were not linked and separate events.


Contact Report 215

Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role. Anarchy will be the worldwide condition that will prevail and torment human beings over a long period of time, as human beings will also be tormented by the many epidemics and diseases, many of them new and unknown to human beings and for this reason incurable. Due to this fact, the bodies of many human beings will slowly and miserably decay, while unbearable pain will also occur as well as blindness and terrible respiratory problems that lead to suffocation. The consciousness of many human beings will become impaired and succumb to feeblemindedness and insanity. And all these gruesome occurrences will be traceable to biological and chemical weapons, which are the cause of not fast, but gruesome and slow deaths; and this will also occur due to the use of ray and frequency weapons which are already being developed today.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

>>> COVID-19 and Henoch's Prophecy / CR 215 … <<<

Interesting find, Hugo.
This passage of Henoch’s Prophecies in CR 215 is mentioned close to the end - after many other events – most of which have not yet happened. So it seems doubtful whether this refers to our time. ON the other hand, Quetzal’s
“I want to state that I'm not authorized to give out exact years through official channels…”
this explains that there are no dates mentioned - not quite sure whether this includes that the mentioned events are not listed in chronological order.

But it could as well be that the not yet happening civil wars and snowfalls in equatorial regions etc. are yet to come and that we Earth human beings will - in that future time - still struggle with COVID-19 and / or other mutating pandemics for which there is no cure.

If we allow for an a-synchronous sequence of events in CR 215 then that paragraph you mentioned is, indeed, very accurately describing what we - based on Billy's and other info - know about our time.

Putting it all together:

(1)
The passage you mention tells us:

- sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role – (?!?)
-human beings tormented by epidemics and diseases Tick
-which are unknown and uncurable Tick
- terrible respiratory problems leading to suffocation Tick
- through biological and chemical weapons (==> CR 251)
- ray / frequency weapons Tick (computerized microwave attacks / H….? )
- consciousness impaired / feebleminded (? Excessive computer games / digitalization …?)

(2)
IF WE THEN COMBINE THIS CR 215 INFO WITH OTHER MORE PRESENT INFORMATION ...

===> The foresight that Billy outlined at the end of October 2017 (Ptaah - 51 % chance of coming true) *)

===> The recent message from Ptaah (CR735) **):
“… This is because a once acute (COVID-19) disease, which has had a recovery but which has settled in the whole organism as a medically undetectable impulse symptom, may again as the same or , due to an impulse symptom change, in a genetically modified form, trigger a new modified disease.”

===> Which befit realities discussed on the net (which our MSM, of course, omits)
= the fact that China, SK and Japan (which were the first countries to have COVID-19 cases) report more and more people having the disease a second time…

===> Which befits as well the COVID-19 prospect Dr. Irene Cesar (Kenneth’s last post) describes:
“The pandemic of SARS-CoV-19 will end up not in the elimination and control of the infection, but in the mutation of the virus, … [the danger of COVID-19 is not just the] short-term pandemic with high mortality, but .. the slow shut-down of the structural genes”

… FROM ALL THIS WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT

Yes, the COVID-19 could be (as your CR 215 text passage explains) "... the cause of not fast, but gruesome and slow deaths…"

We certainly live in very, very dangerous times.
Scott may well be right that those future Earthlings - seeing our dilemma - are wanting to help their unfortunate ancestors... *****)

===============================================

*) https://creationaltruth.org/Home/Latest-Translations

**) https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/coronavirus/interessantes_wissenswertes_zu_viren-bakterien.pdf

***) E.g. Google for:
-COVID-19 reinfection cases on the rise in China (Feb 20)
-Chinese doctors sounding the alarm on the coronavirus say the illness could be even deadlier
-In South Korea A Growing Number Of COVID-19 Patients Test Positive After Recovery

****)
Less likely, perhaps the ET intervention mentioned in CR 215:214-215
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215
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Hugo
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Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

The past few years I've been thinking the coming two US civil wars would likely be triggered by any of these - Democrats vs Republicans, Left vs Right, gun control/confiscation, USD becoming worthless, ect. But now with the virus and Trump tweeting to "liberate certain states" and the public reaction to him, I am beginning to think the civil wars could be triggered by the virus. Then when I reread that contact report where it mentioned the coming civil wars that's when I realized it goes on to describe the events in world today with the virus.
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Felinity
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some time ago, I don't know when, I've told myself that I am in both the economic U.S. civil war and in World War IV. This is so I can accept things as they are and do my daily best to improve. I have to evolve on my own pace, but at the same time, know that my lifespan in this life that I have will not be as long as the Plejarans. My last thought for this post: the word Ziel is unable to be translated into English. How does this sound - 'Life is a Journey not a Destination,' a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson. I use that quote when I come across Ziel and it works for me. =^.^=
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo, Bill,

You bring up some good points.

Do not want to get into a political discussion, just stating the facts relating to current world events. According to an article on the American Legion site...

THE RFECKONING:
The E.U. and the U.S. are putting pressure on China; right or wrong, this could lead China’s present allies (Russia, North Korea & Pakistan) to move against the aggressors.

As the public-health crisis spawned by COVID-19 begins an apparent ease, and the world begins to grapple with the economic wreckage wrought by efforts to contain the disease, there are intensifying calls for China to be held to account for its appalling response to the initial outbreak. Like a gathering storm, a reckoning is coming for Beijing...

Rattled by COVID-19, firms are shifting supply chains away from China. As Forbes reports, even before the COVID-19 crisis, “the threat of disrupted China imports” prompted companies to begin diversifying supply chains...

In addition, there are 13 bills in U.S. Congress calling for punitive action against Beijing...

DIALING UP THE DISTRUST
These bills reflect what the American people – devastated by COVID-19’s health and economic costs – feel about Xi’s China. The Washington Post, citing new polling, reports that the American people “largely agree that the Chinese government bears responsibility for the spread of the pandemic, that it can’t be trusted on this or any other issue, and that the U.S. government should maintain a tough position on China.”

The distrust and anger are not quarantined within America’s borders.

A policy-research firm in Britain has issued a report calling for Beijing to face $6.5 trillion in damages, payable to G-7 nations.

Note:
In my opinion, then the MSN (Main Stream News) states what the American people think; this is what the political structure wants! If the Western nation are not careful, this may be the beginning of the 4th World War?

Kenneth
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, April 24, 2020 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

I'm glad nations and people are waking up to China and hopefully they will take action and it is not all talk because this deadly virus is not going away anytime soon.

I think it is going to be sad and frightening that the coming civil wars and breakup of the USA will have a miserable deadly virus epidemic as a backdrop. Look after yourself there mate!
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, April 24, 2020 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,

Yes, if we are not careful our world could - again *) - be on the way to a terrible escalation.
This is why hate or not to hate is very crucial..

Salome, Bill

*)
Ca. 106 years ago we had a WW because world's politicians were - as the Australian historian C. Clarke aptly described them, "Sleepwalkers... " - And yes, 100 years ago, we had as well a very terrible virus - from a different country...
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Silver has nearly doubled in usd price since my buy recomendation in march.

It fell in march because investors had to sell liquid assets to cover margin calls, the fall wouldnt of happened otherwise, it was a historic buying opp, not ever seen before.

Kenneth its ok to buy silver to use as its legal currency that is good when paper is worthless.

Later it will be illegal when The Figu are put in control by the majority, its ok atm

Currencies wont become worthless until oil production stops well into the future.
Silver could hit record highs soon though as investors realise covid is worse than they think.

I buy 1kg bars or 100 ounce bars as its more bang for buck.

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Cpl
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I guess this is the thread to post the following.

This is the first prophetic or prediction dream (I do not know which) I have had in some time. At least it seemed to be such a dream, so I am posting it here in case anyone, perhaps in China, can make use of it:

Just this morning had a dream of a tsunami or a dam breaking or both that leads to extensive and water rushing around in ground-level flooding. This is a new one for me after a long break of no such dreams. The buildings I saw suggest China, with a lesser probability of Korea, Japan, or Indonesia. It could be that this is happening now and worsens, or could just be something coming soon. China is currently having problems with the Three Gorges Dam and maybe others, so it may have a connection there. There was evidence of very dark storm clouds and the flooding produced by heavy rains. While running to escape the low-level water rushing towards us, people ran in the opposite direction only to see water coming at them from that direction too. I saw a dried earthen wall that began to seep water and realized it was going to crack open and a river above was about to break through and cascade all over us. We ran to find higher ground. I climbed up a bank and over a railway line and headed inland. That's when I arrived higher up amid some touristy structures like country temples in China. Someone was looking at a picture or poster of times gone by saying the poster was showing something from 1920. This area was not modernized but had some visiting travelers and a few tourists, a somewhat historical spot. Flooding was not evident here, and it looked like rural China in the hills or mountains with temples clinging to the mountains. This final scene signified to me that the country concerned is probably China, or maybe Korea or Indonesia. The "dream" indicated flooding and danger from heavy rains and one or more dams breaking. The good news, if one can call it that, is that I did not see anyone die. That doesn't mean no one will, but usually when there are a lot of deaths I die myself in these dreams. That did not happen here.

Please take special care if near any dams or if any strong storms approach in the near future.

Hi Chris, I moved your post to what seems a better fit for it. Scott

(Message edited by scott on August 06, 2020)
Chris

Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2020 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

During this massive worldwide recession/depression the NASDAQ stock market continues to reach all time highs when it has no business doing so. It reminded me of Billy's prophecy he foretold a few years ago below. And since the start of this recession the Federal Reserve Bank has been the buyer and lender of last resort buying everything including peoples home mortgages.



Billy:
"Speculators will bring about a global financial and economic crisis of such proportions as has never before been seen, so that the whole financial economy falls into terrible straits, and also very much trouble and great scarcity of commodities occurs.
Even in the USA, the people will be dispossessed as a consequence of the global financial crisis, which shall become a pretext for deploying the military and police forces against the angry and partly also heavily armed population."
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2020 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

>>> A World in Denial of Cause and Effect <<<

I fully agree with your assessment, Hugo.
More than 25 % of the US work force (= in excess of 40 million people) have lost their job, the economy is set to shrink 30-40 %, many big companies have stalled, retail sales are at record lows, a countless number of corporations cannot pay their debts, a countless number of tenants (many millions in the US and many millions worldwide) cannot pay their rents due to being unemployed. And still, the share markets - they show no sign of adjusting to this situation.

“… Companies are getting cash to keep the lights on” (T. Slok, Deutsche Bank).
But though Reserve Banks worldwide ^^) may solve the immediate liquidity problem of companies and governments which, with greatly reduced profits and declining tax revenues pay their business expenses and wage subsidies, there is no guarantee that these companies and governments will make such huge profits or receive such high tax incomes that they will be able to pay back their immense debts.
Neither will many private households (due to loss of jobs) be able to pay off their loans.

What we witness in politics **), what we witness in relation to COVID-19 - is what we witness as well in relation to economics: We live in a world that does not take responsibility, that is in denial of cause and effect. But printing trillions will not save us. Because cause and effect it will be.

And so - as Matt said – we can only observe with awe how that what Billy foresaw, how it comes into being – one by one. ***)
Billy advised “to 'set aside some cash reserves” ****)
There was a reason for this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
**) Why do we live in a world of a growing alliance against western nations ^)?
Why is there not even unity among the western nations?
Because a competitive mind does not know. There is neither peace nor unity.
“All men are equal” - ? – who wrote that?
^)
CR 656:75.78
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_656

***) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85779
We have already seen some of Billy’s “probability calculations” become reality:
- “worldwide arms build-up”,
- “moving heavy weapons …”,
- “populism”,
- “multinational agreements broken”,
- “many countries having international ambitions”
So, his insights re. secret moves to again ^^) overturn world’s finance system ^) and a “financial collapse” followed by an “economic crisis of proportions never seen before” ^^^) may well be on its way.

^) “secret moves to overturn world’s finance system in order to re-arrange the debts of the national economies/cashless society”

^^) CR656:32 (Sfath’s predictions 21-24)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_656

^^^)
“ … but in the end, it all will degenerate, taking on nationalist, even fascist traits. Speculators may cause a global financial and economic crisis of proportions never seen before… Consequence: Economic goods/assets will be scarce, the entire financial industry will be in peril…”

****)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85779
(see the end of article)


(Message edited by scott on August 08, 2020)
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Lemontree
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Hi,

I have to say this because it confuses me...

If they can time travel to the future, then the future already exists right now, so how can we change it?

E.g. if they go to the year 2200 and there are 20,000,000,000 people on Earth then any prophecy to warn us about overpopulation is useless because it will happen, guaranteed.

And as far as I know, they can travel to any point in time, i.e. they can guarantee everything and render all prophecies useless I guess.

They can just look at the future and we don't need prophecy or warnings because they can tell us exactly what will happen.

But you can say prophecies can be changed, predictions not.

But if they can time travel to any point in the future then they can predict everything.

So the weird part is that we can change the future (by changing our actions), yet at the same time before we even take any action or even think about it, the future already exists.

The only explanation I can think of is that one cannot go to any point in the future that he wants to. Is that the case?

Thanks
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Eddieamartin
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Hello Lemontree

From the Goblet of the Truth we all learn that Creation set in place all its laws and recommendations that regulate all and everything.

As your sense of logic is pointing out to you, the Creation based all its laws from the law of love and the law of logic.

From these we have the law of the causality (cause & effect).

The creational recommendation of fairness explains the ability and capability of time travel.

Love allows us to see the future results according to current conditions, mentalities, deeds, etc. and make the changes for the better.

What is a mystery to me is this; if future time-travel shows the results according to current events, is the actual future that exists a different reality brought about by a change of thinking and actions?
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Str0323
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy gave a flashlight to a human being when he traveled to the past.

What is the lesson from his actions?

Salome
Scott Reed.
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Kenneth
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Str0323,

That 100 KB page is hard to read, I divided the same page up into two segments.

Hope that helps



Kenneth
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Phi_spiral
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Lemontree: "If they can time travel to the future, then the future already exists right now, so how can we change it?"

No, the future does not exist now; that would create time-paradox and Creation does not do time-paradox. It is important to remember that the entire purpose of the material universe is for the evolution of the spirit-form with the goal of growing ever increasingly with wisdom. It can only do that with sequential embodiment in physical form; learning, growing and building on past success and failure ever so slowly on its forward path until it evolves enough where it no longer benefits from material embodiment at all. This is exactly why, as Billy explained in a past conversation about the limits of time travel, that the same spirit form could not occupy two separate bodies simultaneously in the material world; i.e., a future self can not meet a past self. Billy is the exception because his spirit-form had already progressed beyond the material and completely into the spirit realm but chose to come back to assist the younger spirit forms.

There's different types of time travel explained in the Meier material but the vast majority of it involves just a "viewing" with no ability at all for direct interaction - the time traveler cannot be seen or heard and Billy has compared this as similar to "viewing" out into a clear night sky and seeing the distant past of long-ago stars. In his book, Existentes Leben im Universum, he states that the material consciousness of the human being on earth does not presently have the knowledge in order to be aware of certain processes to make it easier to understand time travel. For time is neither purely material nor purely spiritual, but it is two-component, namely just as material as immaterial and man must free himself from this blatant, fundamental error as quickly as possible when he finally corrects the laws of life.

Later this week, I will try to find the time (no pun intended) to write a more comprehensive post about time; space-time; the chronon-flow; hyper-space, which is outside the chronon-flow and time-dilation, and how this relates to future time travel as Billy explains it in Existentes Leben im Universum.

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Bob
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1181
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Str0323,

This question has been pondered over for a long time, with many theories as well. When Billy visited Rabbi Jecheili in the 13th century, he left behind a flashlight (miraculous lamp) along with an electric fence device. This event was done purposely for us Earthlings to contemplate. The main questing is: Would this somehow change that moment in time and create a possible different future? Insignificant event or not, in my opinion, this is an important event in our studies, we may not understand the entirety of this event for some time to come?

Billy’s response:
This did not change the history of France, Europe, science, etc. When the batteries were empty, both the flashlight and the device for electrifying a fence were useless and only some object of curiosity.

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Nonetheless, there is a book titled. “Folklare of the Jews”. In this book they tell the tale of a Rabbi who owned a miraculous magical lamp that stayed lit for an entire week without oil. When this book talks about the ground outside the Rabbi’s door is lowered; it means that whoever is outside the Rabbi’s door is dropped (lowered) to the ground; as the Rabbi hooked up the electric fence and charger to his door handle.



Kenneth

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