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    Adxok Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 02-2011 |
Happy birthday to Billy! I also think the crash in Roswell was deliberately executed. It gave the people of USA back then a great field to explore in terms of electronics, computers advancement, biology. It was right after the WWII, so it was the perfect time to get involved in some new tech, rather than thinking about another war. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1102 Registered: 04-2013 |
Adxok, You said, “I also think the crash in Roswell was deliberately executed. It gave the people of USA back then a great field to explore in terms of electronics, computers advancement…”. I’m in agreement with this thought/idea; witnessing many scientific high-tech leaps in technology associated with the aerospace (military) industry, is pretty compelling, in my opinion. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Post Number: 834; February 25, 2018: "Years ago, I read an article in Contact Report 011 where the Plejaren were using their own androids in dangerous situations to assist with the development and the advancement of the Plejaren spaceship technologies where some androids were destroyed in the process. In paraphrasing, the article went on to say that this loss of the android beings were acceptable … This brings to mind the Roswell crash with androids aboard, including other extraterrestrial spaceship crashes in other 1st world countries, so to speak. Were all of these crashes really a mistake on the androids part or the spaceship itself, and not a planned incident in order to covertly help the advancement of Earthly technologies? That being said, we know that the timeline on the development of Earth human technologies is being advanced at a faster pace than would normally happen without extraterrestrial intermediations, in a manner of speaking, slowly advancing our technology through mental suggestions or impulses with various Earth scientists, engineers, etc. We also know from the Contact Reports that our Sol Sun is a dying star. This means that we Earthlings need to move the technological timeline of our developments forward at a faster pace in order to travel away from the dying Sol system to eventually find a new home… Again." Kenneth | ||
Felinity Member Post Number: 50 Registered: 09-2019 |
Happy Leap Year of 2020! Question: Will Sfath's spirit as a different personality be here for the year 3999? I'm making the assumption that in Erra's orbit that spirits like his are present, plus Erra and the Plejaran Federation continue their peaceful ways of living for him to be born as a human being to then travel to Earth by a beamship or another type of flying vehicle. Salome and Stay Safe. Felinity | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2019 |
Felinity, don't laugh at me, but I have dreamt about Sfath a few times and had conversations with him. In my dreams he has a sharp looking face with a longish jawline and very piercing light grey eyes. His hair is white and he has a short white beard. He tells me that he is here and very much involved and watching what is going on. . . whether in the body or out of it, I don't know. Personally, I have never met a man who resembles this person, nor have I met anyone with that intensity of spirit that is in him. He spoke to me in a flat, dry kind of voice, expressionless.. . . without any emotion or "colour". What I noticed most about him were his eyes, which were extremely intense. He told me a lot of other things which off hand I can't recall, as my dream memory is subconscious and it's difficult to bring details to the surface. However, having met someone like Sfath (or perhaps a "Gandalf" figure) it has convinced me that Billy is totally telling the truth and that we can have confidence that he is not misleading us. . . . | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 651 Registered: 02-2010 |
Keep in mind Aristea, this dream of Sfath, can be your future personality and not necessarily Sfath BEAM has a long, detailed Spiritual Teaching on dreams, which I may not "read" or be able to "study" during my current lifetime. However, supposedly, all dreams are about "you". MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 765 Registered: 07-2006 |
To help understand Time Travel into the past and future, My translation (which may contain errors) of an article by 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier titled 'Time Travel (Zeitreise)' from FIGU Bulletin No. 40 (August 2002) page 12 which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=sQ4Oha8n9Vs%3d&tabid=901&portalid=0&mid=3610 Hope this helps PatM | ||
Felinity Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 09-2019 |
Thank you to all who have posted comments. I'm not laughing about your dreams, Aristea. I trust your word. It was this very day, March 1st, but in 2013, I had such a hideous nightmare. I think my psyche caved in. I was determined to research dreams. It lead me to studying ufo's, witchcraft, Native American studies, politics, then back to aliens/ufo's. Sometime around 2016 did I find Billy Meier. Now my life is studying as much material as I can. I'm freaking out and crying over a nightmare I had in 2016. My son now is 11. He is getting over a flu. His immune system is weak. I don't want that nightmare to come true. | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 06-2019 |
Hi Felinity, I hope your son becomes well again! Sometimes dreams show us a possible reality ahead of time so we can deal with it when it appears. The outcome might not be as presented in the dream, which appears as a warning. I have heeded dream warnings in my life, and the disastrous outcome didn't actually happen. However, I recognized the situation when it appeared, and was forwarned so that I could act on the warning and not be surprised. | ||
Felinity Member Post Number: 52 Registered: 09-2019 |
I understand, Aristea. I get overwhelmed with figuring out ways to protect my son. To self-quarantine is not possible. The risks of us being carriers is a lot to bear. So far, no schools here in the U.S. have cancelled classes, so I'm stuck. I'll do my best to be more calmer in my next posts  | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 12-2016 |
My Mother and Stepfather can't sit still. They go out everyday in public and the have a ho hum attitude. I have a Spinal Cord Injury and can't afford to get real sick. | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 824 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Norm The way to protect oneself and the family is to wash one’s hands thoroughly once arriving home. Hong Kong citizens are doing quite well with this preventive practice Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 811 Registered: 04-2015 |
Norm, take plenty of Moringa to boost your immune system then. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1347 Registered: 04-2011 |
>>> “Aliens who have always been working on Earth ...” <<< Just a quick summary re. the just published CR 724: Billy and Ptaah speak about the “many aliens who have been working on Earth since time immemorial…” Ptaah asks Billy who had been informed by Sfath about these aliens “who have always been on Earth and who are not necessarily of a peaceful humane nature” – if it would endanger them (Plejaren) if they would make themselves recognizable to them. Billy replies that Sfath advised him that they should do like Ashtar Sheran and the Gize Intel – that is to say: stay unnoticed to the aliens. As the alien technology is by far inferior to the ones of the Plejaren there is no danger of being recognized by them. (BTW The Gize Intel and Ashtar Sheran stayed in a different time space configuration and only came to Earth temporarily = at the times they wanted to cause mischief) Billy can tell Ptaah more but in the CR no further information re. the aliens is given. Who could they be? Were they the three different groups of aliens visiting our planet? *) Were they part of the armada of UFOs that were recently seen over Hinterschmidrüti ? If they were working on our planet "since time immemorial" – they would have been know to the people of Atlantis – but if this were the case, would the Plejaren not have known about them? Many questions… Salome, Bill *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/15816.html#POST82334 General Area / Figu Related / Time Travel (post 629 / June 5, 2017 / "Update to the UFO Groups") | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1348 Registered: 04-2011 |
Small Correction re. Ashtar Sheran - Acc. to Billy in CR 724 Ashtar Sheran may have never come to earth: "And as for Ashtashran aka Ashtar Sheran, as far as I know he was never in our presence anyway, but worked from another space-time level on his confused believers on earth. …" | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 04-2020 |
Ashtar Sheran still is a particularly interesting character in some circles of the so-called New Age community. Back when I still lived in Los Angeles, I remember going into the Bodhi Tree Book Store and seeing several books on the shelves of "channeled" information from "the Ashtar". Who or what was behind it, I couldn't say. But you could see fliers and notices of groups meeting to discuss the information. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1434 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Scott Yes, I know ... But I have to reread it all again. Especially Billy's interesting explanations re "what happens when we travel back in time".Because the one thing that surprises me re. Billy's 'time travel" is this: Yes, it does make sense that while being away for 7 days on Erra, Billy let himself a beard grow - which caught everyone by surprise when returned to the SSSC, just 6 hours after he left, "clean shaven". Or even better the episode of his young life when he stayed with his girlfriend Marga in a hotel and one day returned "with beard" from an 11 months' trip with Asket to her home planet. His girlfriend telling him he glued the beard on to mislead her so she wanted to tear it off (Sadly she did not see the fun part of it all and their relationship got worse...) On the other hand, Ptaah tells us that Billy spent 61 years (!) and 94 days with Sfath on time travels when he was a young boy. But he still would have returned as a young boy not a grown up man. May they rejuvenated him with the Billy gives an at length explanation of what happens when one travels back in time - which I have to reread - Not sure though whether this may as well explain that Billy could arrive as a young boy from Sfath's travels... I am a bit busy so I can supply our readers with a very fast translation of this particular segment of CR 748. (My translation may contain errors) CR 748 - Billy: "Then something else and a word about it, concerning the times of the present, future and past, because among us earthlings, the erroneous view has been circulating - especially since the 1920s, when the fundamentally first science fiction silent movie <metropolis> was made and publicly screened in 1927 - that when one travels into the past or future then the exact same time would pass as in the present, which is completely wrong and false. This assumption is wrong because in the past, time has already existed, and is over, therefore it has no relevance anymore in the present time. This means that when traveling from the present into the past - or into the future -, then the present time runs [takes place] there, which is practically as fast or [is] slow, as is the present time from which the journey into the past or future is made. The Clou here is, however, that everything seems to be time-delayed, which means that if a visit was made in the past and e.g. a day is spent, this is not relevant for the present time, because the past time has already expired and has no influence on the present time, consequently the latter [this time] can no longer be equated with it. Therefore, a day or year etc. can be spent in the past, while in the present, for example only minutes pass etc. So if one travels into the past or into the future, then the time of that time passes there, which must be lived through as a <visitor> according to the time that prevails there and is spent there, but which in the future has already expired and passed, but no longer applies to the normal present from which one travels into the past which is no longer relevant, because it has already passed. So if one has travelled from the present into the past and lived in this time setting for e.g. one or two years, then this has to do with the normal present time, from which the journey into the past is made. This is because in the past, a time is effectively lived through that is no longer relevant to the present of the time of origin of the journey, but has long since ceased to exist. But the time that the traveller from his future present experiences in the past, is absolutely real, so that he effectively experiences it and during this time he also ages. Therefore, when the traveler returns from the past time into the present time, then he has aged for that time that he spent in the past. But to return to that time [piont] in the present, at which he had left, this can only be done by time manipulation. But then there always remains the fact, that the traveller to the past ages during his visit to the past by the [same] time he spends there, therefore, if it is an adult man, his beard sprouts accordingly, so that it is recognized by people watching him that he had been away for a long time..." German Dann etwas anderes und ein Wort dazu, was die Zeiten der Gegenwart, Zukunft und Vergangenheit betrifft, denn bei uns Erdlingen kursiert die irrige Ansicht – besonders seit den 1920er Jahren, als 1927 der grundlegend erste Sciencefiction-Stummfilm <metropolis> entstand und öffentlich vorgeführt wurde –, dass wenn in die Vergangenheit oder Zukunft gereist werde, dann die exakt genau gleiche Zeit ablaufe wie in der Gegenwart, was jedoch völlig irrig und falsch ist. Diese Annahme ist ja darum falsch, weil in der Vergangenheit die Zeit bereits bestand und vorbei ist, folglich sie keinerlei Relevanz mehr zur Gegenwartzeit aufweist. Das bedeutet, dass wenn von der Gegenwart aus in die Vergangenheit gereist wird – oder in die Zukunft –, dann läuft dort eben die dortige Gegenwartzeit ab, die praktisch gleichermassen so schnell oder langsam ist, wie die Gegenwartzeit aus der die Reise in die Vergangenheit oder Zukunft vorgenommen wird. Der Clou dabei ist jedoch, dass alles zeitverschoben wirkt, was bedeutet, dass wenn in der Vergangenheit ein Besuch abgestattet und dort z.B. ein Tag verbracht wird, dies für die Gegenwartzeit nicht relevant ist, weil die Vergangenheitszeit eben bereits abgelaufen und ist und keinen Einfluss mehr auf die Gegenwartszeit ausübt, folglich diese in deren Verlauf nicht mehr gleichgesetzt werden kann. Daher kann in der Vergangenheit ein Tag oder Jahr usw. verbracht werden, während in der Gegenwart z.B.nur Minuten vergehen usw. Wird also in die Vergangenheit oder in die Zukunft gereist, dann vergeht dort die Zeit von damals, die als <besucher> durchlebt werden muss, und zwar gemäss der Zeit, die eben dort vorherrscht und verbracht wird, die jedoch in der Zukunft bereits abgelaufen und vorbei ist, jedoch für die normale Gegenwart, aus der in die Vergangenheit gereist wird, nicht mehr relevant, sondern eben bereits vorbei ist. Wenn also aus der Gegenwart in die Vergangenheit gereist und in dieser z.B. ein oder zwei Jahre gelebt wird, dann hat das auf die normale Gegenwartzeit, von der die Reise in die Vergangenheit ausgeführt wird, keinerlei Einfluss, denn in der Vergangenheit wird effectiv eine Zeit durchlebt, die für die Gegenwart der Reiseursprungszeit nicht mehr relevant, sondern längst nicht mehr existent ist. Die Zeit aber, die der Reisende aus seiner zukünftigen Gegenwart in der Vergangenheit durchlebt, ist absolut real, folglich er sie effectiv durchlebt und um diese Zeit auch altert. Wenn dann daher der Reisende aus der Vergangenheitszeit in die Gegenwartszeit zurückkehrt, dann ist er um jene Zeit gealtert, die er in der Vergangenheit verbrachte. Um aber zu der Zeit in die aktuelle Gegenwart zurückzukehren, zu der diese verlassen wurde, so kann dies nur durch eine Zeitmanipulation geschehen. Dabei bleibt dann aber immer der Fakt, dass der Vergangenheitsreisende während seines Vergangenheitsbesuches um jene Zeit altert, die er dort verbringt, folglich ihm, wenn es ein erwachsener Mann ist, auch dementsprechend sein Bart spriesst, folglich von Personen, die ihn beobachten, erkannt wird, dass er längere Zeit weg war. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3159 Registered: 12-1999 |
Yes, Bill when you have time, looking forward to it. Salome | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2392 Registered: 07-2005 |
Depending on whether Billy intentionally left some sort of an historical mark on the past event when he travelled to the past which I would assume he did given that he spent over 61 years in various epochs of the past, I am certain that a reference to Billy would exist in some historical document somewhere in the secret archives of the Vatican library and the library of congress. The flesh and blood Billy the person would be regarded as a future time traveller to the people of the past. This means that from the vantage point of the people from the past the future is already fixed where it concerns Billy. If Billy and Sfath managed to have a meeting with a person from the past then this event would've been fixed and no matter who and in what year someone did the time travel to the exact time and location of Billy and Sfath meeting up with the person from the past they would see exactly that. This means that a future persons have already created a past event even before they were born. This adds additional proof that some of the future is already fixed and cannot change. You cannot change the past that has already come to pass but what you can do is change the past as a future person if your future has already come to pass before it ever happened. So some aspect of the future is already a past even before it happened. Matt kee | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1238 Registered: 08-2010 |
After some contemplation regarding Billy spending 61 years time travelling. I had the funniest thought. In a future personality, many will be able to travel back in time and meet Billy and ask him consciousness-based questions. I can only imagine, and could be completely off, that this time traveling he did allowed him to meet with and advise many people, including people from the future of many planets and civilizations. Or it could have been simply for his experience and enlightenment... not to mention some much needed breaks from all the drama and primitiveness of Earth's human beings. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1324 Registered: 08-2004 |
I tend to think that most of Billy's extra years were spent with the Plejaren on Erra and with their spiritual council, assisting them. The "thank you" to us from them for helping "their herald and proclaimer" hints very strongly at this. I doubt Billy spent more time in the past than with the Plejaren on Erra and perhaps elsewhere with them in a spiritual teaching capacity. That is, after all, his mission in this lifetime, and the Plejaren listen and learn, not like the people on this planet. The Plejaren will now spread Billy's teaching far and wide wherever they can and whenever they can throughout the universe without proselytising, of course. This aspect of Billy's mission might have been even bigger than here on the earth. Surely, it would have been more immediately fruitful. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 01-2011 |
Matt, Same thing doesn't leave my mind when thinking about the future that It could possibly be fixed already but not in its totality. There is a mention of people from our future coming to visit earth which is in our present but in their past. In this sense it seems that the future has also happened... | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1182 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Jokubas_stalmokas, Have some additional thoughts on time travel, moving it to a more appropriate section of Thinking and Thoughts. Kenneth | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1325 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Jokubas and Matt, Your difficulty in comprehending the future in relation to the present may come from an overly materialistic perception of our reality, and present, which never really exists in an absolute sense for us, because it has gone into the nano past before the brain has recognised or registered it and the mind cognised it. That process takes time, so we can never be in any absolute present. Only the future is real because that is what we are moving into and forever creating. The way I see it, the future hasn't already happened. That must be an incorrect assumption and impossible. The future has only happened to those who have already experienced it -- in the future. As an example, when Billy told Immanuel about our time (whatever he did tell him) our reality was not something there "now" for Jmmanuel, at least that is not how he described it. He foretold and prophesied/predicted it; it was the future that would be. We do not exist in a plenum now; we exist in a time flux as we move through its 3D realm of expression. The future is something that we will and do create; it is not there/here "now"; it is there in the future to the degree that it will be so and to the degree that we and our current reality create it. If we travel to the future and die there (correct me if I am wrong anyone), "we" are not there; it essentially ceases to exist for us until our spirit form, OCB, and our time catch up with that time and the two become our present. Only then, is that future "now" for us. It seems to me that time dictates reality and reality dictates time. We live in a space-time continuum that is ever changing, and just as we live in an ever changing 3D spacial reality that we can traverse at our will, given the means, the same goes for time. We can theoretically see or visit any of it, but those experiences, while subjectively present experiences, are not now, but of their time. Each reality has its own time and vice versa, it helps not to confuse the realities; and likewise not to confuse the times. That's how I see it, anyway. Even in a future vision, the future can be experienced AS a present time, but it is not the present (time), but a future time, being experienced in the present. To paraphrase the UK saying: don't get your times or realities in a twist .Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. |
