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    Joe Member Post Number: 564 Registered: 11-2008 |
Time-travel according to Guido Moosbrugger in Las Vegas in 1991.      | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1489 Registered: 07-2009 |
Joe, Where can we find this page/docuemnt and any more from Guido's lecture? Thanks. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1247 Registered: 08-2010 |
Joe, thanks for sharing your Post#564 To All, That last paragraph makes an interesting statement. "Guido believes that those who really feel that way, probably have known each other for a long time and, quite possibly, have requested to meet again in this lifetime to be together." Anyone have any thoughts or insights about that? Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1185 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Chris, Yes, your post 1331 is right on point to my understanding as well. You stated, “Time past and future exist in their dimension of time, but the future is not absolutely decided in every detail.” IMO, the future is formed by what we do and think during the minuscule of a second of time during the present time. The future has many waypoints so to say that are fixed measures or trials, but there are many paths that lead to an intermediate point or place on a route determined by ones thoughts and actions, at which point the course may be changed by an improved and/or expanded consciousness and thoughts, leading to additional actions, and so on to the next waypoint that is fixed in the present. As a small example, if someone is inadvertently removed from your proximity through opportunity, incarceration or death, this could change, end or deviate ones immediate thought process and associated actions leading to a change in the immediate future that is continuing to change before the nano-second of present develops. All this conversation is good as it is putting many of the missing puzzle pieces together that will eventually form the larger picture. Salome Kenneth | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1248 Registered: 08-2010 |
From what I've been gathering from the discussion and a few points Guido made... We exist in between 'a' past dimension and 'a' future dimension... a blazingly fast 'moment'/'time'. So the dimensions are like the pages of a book, wherein each page is that point in time in between a past and a future dimension? A past and a future dimension always exists because we can always turn to a particular page and view (experience) what happened from that point onward? So just like a book, these pages (dimensions) are permanently written on. Much like the completion of constructing a house? The house is now permanently written onto each dimension since its completion. Since the house was built, it too remains throughout each point in between a past and a future dimension as time goes by... until it is demolished. So with the right technology, creational laws and recommendations allow us to go to a page at any point in the "book" (time) and see what happens from that moment onward? Fascinating subject! Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1438 Registered: 04-2011 |
Very interesting. Thank you, Joe. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 564 Registered: 11-2008 |
First of all, it was not my intention to upload and display the images horizontally. I actually wanted them to be displayed vertically for easier viewing. When I had previewed the page before posting, the images were actually displayed vertically. I don't exactly know what happened. It could be because the names of the images were placed horizontally next to each other instead of in separate lines. Download link to the PDF: https://www.upload.ee/files/12189323/Guido_-_Las_Vegas__December_13_and_15__1991.pdf.html Joe, FIGU prefers links to FIGU approved websites only. The link you provided is a non-secured website and not approved by FIGU. Thanks Scott (Message edited by scott on August 24, 2020) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1439 Registered: 04-2011 |
Eddy: I do think that it is no accident that our parents were our parents and we their children. That Otto Muck (who was Plato) lived around the time Billy was born (who was once Socrates). But I do not know any CR that would speak about "meeting again" in a future life. But I do know that Buddhism teaches "if you want to know what happened in your past - look at what surrounds you in your present." Buddhism teaches as well a belief in a continuous "master - disciple relationship" *), whereby the master in this life will be the student in the next life and vice versa in the life thereafter etc. Salome, Bill *) This may well be so. E.g. we know from Billy that the spirit form of Socrates reincarnated in Aristotle. And we know from our history books that Socrates taught Plato who in turn taught Aristotle. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1186 Registered: 04-2013 |
Greetings Chris, In your post 1333, you talked about meeting an extraordinary psychic… Having a similar encounter with a young Asian Indian woman many years ago where we worked, she was a new one-time acquaintance, she said that her Mother in India was a palm reader and psychic. I asked her if she could read palms, she asked, do believe in palm reading, I said no! I asked her, do you believe in UFO’s in a satirical remark, to my surprise, she said yes of course. (This was way before I knew anything about Billy and the Teaching.) She held both of my hands, according to her, my right hand was my conscious mind, whereas the left hand is subconscious, also past and future. I pretty much thought this was a joke. She implied that there is more to palm reading than the palms, at the time I did not understand. She proceeded to tell me a little about my past military background, where I grew up, that I was married, my current job will soon be no more, would have two children (not yet born), the marriage will not last, I would move far away, another marriage will develop… I will not go any further regarding that. I pulled away because so far, she was spot on, did not understand how she could possibly know this. As time ensued, everything that she said came to pass. She indicated that she knew about UFO’s, extraterrestrials, and time. I did not understand what she meant by “Time”. Never saw her again. So, did this woman understand my waypoints so to say? How could she possibly know my future if it has not happened yet. That event was a unique distraction, in my opinion, it is not advantageous to know certain future events. Then again, could she be adept at reading energies, aura’s, body language, ethnicity, grooming, etc. and come close with a guess? Kenneth | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1334 Registered: 08-2004 |
Eddie, regarding: Guido believes that those who really feel that way, probably have known each other for a long time and, quite possibly, have requested to meet again in this lifetime to be together. Going by what I have read of Billy's material, it seems to me that this might be possible if the meeting would further the evolution of the spirit forms. The personalities alone seem somewhat irrelevant. It is what the spirit form needs to further evolve that determines where and by whom IT and the newly formed personality respectively reincarnate and incarnate. Having said that, I do think that these feelings when they relate more to the core consciousness or OCB may result in some future meeting of these frequencies at some time or times in the future, bearing in mind that when, or the time, may be pretty insignificant for the OCB. These feelings of familiarity may be somewhat timeless. Eventually, all will unite into a collective we-form as we unite with Creation eons in the future. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2400 Registered: 07-2005 |
Chris you said.. When anyone time travels into the past or future they do not, as I see it, take their past or future with them. I think there are few more details that is left to iron out before we exhaust this discussion. Your statement above still presents a quandary and a certain conundrum for me clashing with ideas rolling around inside my head due to my ignorance and bias. When I say that anyone who does a time travel brings with them their past back to whatever period past that they choose to go back to, it means that in the case of Asket who was 400 odd years old, Billy some 17 years give or take and Jitchi being much much older than Billy but centuries younger than Asket, they would've lived for how many number of years that they lived before they did the time travel back to the past. Now every second right up to the split nanosecond that they time travelled back some 2000 odd years to meet with Jmmanuel had all become the past for Asket, Billy and Jitchi. To appear as fully grown 400, 17 or 18 and around 60 or 70 odd year old people in front of Jmmanuel represents that many number of years that they've lived to present themselves as the flesh and blood human beings that they've become from a baby right up to adulthood. For how could they simply materialize out of nothing just because they've time travelled when there had to be a precedence to their lives to get to that stage. How could their past simply disappear and be treated null and void just because they've time travelled. It doesn't make logical sense. So when Asket Jitchi and Billy met with Jmmanuel they were technically bringing 2000 odd years worth of fixed past with them including how many number of years that they've lived. This obviously represents a paradox. The question then becomes if anyone was to time travel to the exact moment that Jmmanuel met with these three to witness their meeting as a view only time travel then technically Asket Jitchi and Billy meeting with Jmmanuel was already a 2 thousand odd year old past that the time traveller would've definitely seen and if 2/3 of Judas's Talmud of Jmmanuel wasn't burnt it may very well contain the account of Billy Asket and Jitchi meeting with them. So the instance that Jmnanuel met with these three the future, where it concerns them, would definitely have been fixed right to the dot. So in essence the future had already been fixed right then and there where it concerns Asket Billy and Jitchi some 2000 odd years ago because as the Creational law states the past can never be changed. Who said the future cannot become the past even before it happens. I know of no such Creational law. The future for these three had already been fixed with absolute certainty 2000 odd years ago that have come to pass even before it happened that fateful day without a shadow of doubt. Chris can you now understand why this fixed future business is such a compelling an argument and that Asket Billy and Jitchi just didn't bring their past with them but that the past had already brought them to bring the past back to the past. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2401 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks for taking the time to research and retrieve that information Bob. Cheers Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2402 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yeah Eddie I remember telling Robjn some 6 or 7 years ago if my memory serves me correct at how familiar everyone was from FIGU Australia having looked at the photo of the founding members posted on landgruppe Australia website when I first saw it. Matt lee | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1335 Registered: 08-2004 |
Matt: So the instance that Jmnanuel met with these three the future, where it concerns them, would definitely have been fixed right to the dot. So in essence the future had already been fixed right then and there where it concerns Asket Billy and Jitchi some 2000 odd years ago because as the Creational law states the past can never be changed. Who said the future cannot become the past even before it happens. I know of no such Creational law. The future for these three had already been fixed with absolute certainty 2000 odd years ago that have come to pass even before it happened that fateful day without a shadow of doubt. Chris can you now understand why this fixed future business is such a compelling an argument and that Asket Billy and Jitchi just didn't bring their past with them but that the past had already brought them to bring the past back to the past. As I said before, Matt, because something is fixed to occur in the future does not mean that it "has occurred." By definition it means it will happen in the future. Things and events happen in their time, and that is all. Who would say the future could become the past? The future is the future and the past the past, just as Melbourne is Melbourne and Sydney is Sydney. They cannot become both or each other. Immanuel's experience of the time travel event was fundamentally different from the experience of the other three (A, B, & J). Immanuel did not experience the time travel (at least in this discussion): he merely experienced meeting three people from the future. The three did not take 2,000 years of time with them. They merely took themselves and their vehicle as an energy package that was transported back to that place in time. 2000 years of time was not included in that package that went back. You open up a perhaps interesting question as to whether that is possible, but I would strongly suggest that it would be impossible to transport such an energy pack of 2000 years back into the past, because it would cause an absolute chaos within existence (how could it be possible to fit a whole time period into another time any more than one place could fit into another without the destruction of both), and Creation does see to it that time progresses onward. Creation does have energy structures (to paraphrase from memory) that naturally keep times and spirits in their appropriate places and times. It is not they that are taking time with them, but they are using technology to travel through or bypass that time to arrive at a particular time point. Only they and their vehicle go, not time. The only time they take back is the time that any human being has and carries around with them. Again, we do not possess time. The time they took with them is no different than the time you or I take with us when we visit another place; merely the time we have experienced and that has become a part of us -- and that is all in the past, and as such is irrelevant from a time point of view. Only the people travel. Time doesn't go anywhere, anymore than the universe goes anywhere. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1336 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thank you, Joe. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1337 Registered: 08-2004 |
I rather like your analogy of time being like a book, Eddie. The pages being, minutes, hours, days, months, years or centuries, with the later as yet unopened pages, only half-written, and awaiting our best, wisest, love-filled, and most creative contributions. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1249 Registered: 08-2010 |
Salome Bill, Matt, Matt, about my my brother, who was born in Cuba and lived most of his life there until he came to the United States. One day he saw a show about the middle east where they showed the land and many areas. He swore up and down that he had been there before. He even knew what the places appeared like before the documentary cameras showed it. He was floored by it. So he must have lived there according to that one Bulletin from BEAM. In a sense, we actually time-travel from incarnation to incarnation. Like that show Quantum Leap. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 822 Registered: 07-2006 |
For those interested: This is a article I translated (may contain errors) from Guido Moosbrugger's book: Flight through Time and Space (Flugreisen Durch Zeit und Raum) pages 305-307 titled: 'The very best space-travel-method, that there is (Die allerbeste Raumfahrtmethode, die es gibt) which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Books/FlightThroughSpaceAndTime/305-The-very-best-space-travel-method-that-there-is-sec.pdf PatM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3162 Registered: 12-1999 |
That is very interesting Thank you Patrick | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 823 Registered: 07-2006 |
Specifically regarding time travel, the following article 'Time Travel (Zeitreise)' by Billy from FIGU Bulletin No.40 (Aug 2003) page 12 may be of interest. Please see: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Periodicals/FIGU%20Bulletins/2002-Vol8/FIGUBulletin040/Time-Travel-sec.pdf PatM | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1250 Registered: 08-2010 |
Awesome Patrick! Thanks for sharing. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Darcy_carlile Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 08-2010 |
CR250 has corroborating information about my forum post back in 2018 on Time Travelers from our future who fly UFOs in our present time. CR250 is posted on future of mankind website. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1440 Registered: 04-2011 |
Very interesting. Thank you, Pat. Salome, Bill |
