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Patm
Member
Post Number: 869
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2021 - 08:28 am: | 
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In the original German both use "Ur-Ur-Ur-Grossvater".
The English translation for Ptaah needs to be corrected.
However, in FIGU Bulletin No. 109 (page 24) both are translated as using "great-great-great-great-grandfather, which is incorrect if the original German is "Ur-Ur-Ur-Grossvater". |
Wigs
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2021
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 - 11:50 am: |
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Hello FIGU members!
I am brand new to the forum and was so excited to post, but the more I looked around, I'll be honest, the sketchier this all seems to me. I watched everything I could get my hands on about Billy and was completely immersed because his story fell in line so perfectly with my own research & spiritual journey. So, if you will allow me to post my confusions.
1. Wikipedia states that Billy has an "extraterrestrial religion". But I was under the impression that Billy's messages are not anything about religion of any kind. As other prophets have long attempted to advise, its about living within the natural laws of Creation. Religion sounds like there is someone to worship. Thus, the Wikipedia article summary makes it seem like its Billy's religion & therefore, he is the one everyone in FIGU follows. That kind of makes me upset that it could be perceived by others like that.
2. I was reading through some threads on earthly visitations other than the Plejarans. If we believe, and I most certainly do, that there are a vastly infinite number of beings in the Universe, then to say that all other visitations are hoaxes sounds very "cult-oriented". While I agree that there is not the level of authenticity that Billy produces about multi-dimensional beings visiting our sorry butts, its important not to be exclusionary if we want others to be open to visiting & "chewing" on his information.
3. There are many types of people in the world, and none are without fault, but there is value in everyone. Over the years, I have been inspired by so-called "great ones" (the Dalai Lama, for ex.), but there is something to be learned from everyone! Here's my point: I think proving so&so is a fraud, bashing someone's good name, or revealing how horrible someone really was is a waste of time. The message that we messed up our own lives is a good one, but I find it off-putting to hear over & over again how this human is a screwup or just how bad conditions really are here . We are here now. We cannot control other people nor change the past. How many times must our incompetence as a race be proven unworthy? I am desperately looking for something more productive. Is this a place where I can find this?
Please forgive my "green-ness". And thank you for being open to my thoughts!
wigs}} |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1530
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 - 07:19 pm: |
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Hi Wigs:
1. Wikipedia runs a disinformation campaign against Billy Meier, Figu, etc. One can determine that for themselves by studying what the criteria are for religions and cults. It's easy to determine that FIGU is neither, that no one solicits, proselytizes, recruits, asks for money, promises "salvation" or heaven, nor threats of purgatory, hell, etc., nor claims of some infallible leader, etc., etc.
2. Simply provide evidence for any other claimed contacts, extraterrestrials, etc. UFOlogy ISN'T "science", it's a dumb, amateurish, cultic, delusional, belief-oriented conglomerate of self-seeking wannabes, disinformation spreaders, charlatans, etc., who've been co-opted by intelligence services (knowingly or otherwise) and who now are being effectively recruited to help spread conspiracy theories, and promote war, against Russia and China.
3. Since I've already done what you are adverse to in 2. above, at least consider that the Meier contacts may be the key to our future survival and that those in UFOlogy, etc., who ignore, attack, suppress it may be contributing to a great deal of destruction and death, etc. Note that the COVID info from Meier and the Plejaren is proven to be the most accurate and important and always published before the CDC, WHO, etc.
Since this information is effectively censored and banned, perhaps finding ways to get the information known worldwide would be the "more productive" thing you're looking...to do. |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 695
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 - 12:46 am: |
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And WE Never Worship Anything eheh, not even The Creation
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Wigs
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2021
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 - 07:51 am: |
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Thank you Michael! If I may:
1. anyone can change the content in Wikipedia. I just think its something that the membership should keep correcting if someone else edits incorrectly.
2. I know all this, as I've spent the greater part of the last 3 months listening to your films! LOL But my point is perception by others. I am a librarian by profession & by the natural order, so I am always looking at how information appears to the uneducated. sometimes it is just a matter of tweaking a word, an approach, or just being ok with "IDK". Of course, sometimes, nothing is effective. I agree with Billy's authenticity, and plethora of substantiated information, and I am open to accepting your response here. I don't have any problem with believing the warmongers of the world manipulate the masses. I just think your members should limit the amount of discussions proving other information is incorrect. The Truth will speak for itself, but I think we turn others away when we try too hard to fight the extraneous battles. Of course, this is just my opinion.
3. I agree with everything you say here! And I love your advice! Frankly, I should've thought it up myself! LOL I may need more advice later on.
4. New topic: Have you or Billy read the life's work of Zecharia Sitchin? He published about 7 (?)books regarding the origins of our race, our history & a different interpretation, but one that aligns with material from all the major religious "holy" books, but casts a different light on our ancestry. His theories are substantially based on archeology, astronomy, & the texts left behind by the ancient Sumerians. Fascinating stuff.
5. How about Eckhart Tolle? A lot of what he says fits in so well with the messages from the Plejaren. Currently, I am reading Christina Day, but I'll be honest, I'm having a hard time absorbing anything she's written yet. Are you aware of her writings? Would love to know your thoughts if you are!
Have a great day, & thanks for writing back to me!
wigs
ps: Sorry for all the randomness, but...that's my life! I like random! :/ |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1531
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 - 02:47 pm: |
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Hi Wigs, you're welcome.
1. The ongoing efforts to correct Wikipedia are ALWAYS manipulated negatively by certain parties who make sure that the information is always false, unsubstantiated, etc. Welcome to the wonderful world of censorship.
2. The above is another reason why the false information must be called out. The entire UFO topic now is being manipulated by parties intent on starting a war with Russia. As foretold in the Henoch Prophecies and the predictions of Jeremia, there won't be much left of this country as a result.
3. Glad you like it.
4. Sitchin's work, according to Meier and the Plejaren, is very incorrect. Of course, the delightful UFO community embraces it without having the benefit of knowing about Meier's information.
5. I've heard of Eckhart Tolle but didn't read his book(s). Christina Day is another, self-identifying liar...since there are no "Pleiadians". Again, another reason why the liars, charlatans, profiteers and phonies should be called out.
While each person should decide the facts for themselves, with the ceaseless promotion of the New Age, UFO, paranormal garbage, and the ongoing suppression of the Meier material, it's much harder to find the truth. |
Reen71b
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 - 04:12 pm: |
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@Wigs
Although anyone can change the content of Wikipedia, the true information somehow keeps getting removed and replaced with the lies. Although I understand most people's reasoning behind trying to find out if this is all true or not, the most important part of all the materials is the message. Keep searching for answers to the truth. The world is full of information as is the teachings. You just have to carefully vet all information you find no matter the source.
Maureen
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 807
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 06:33 am: |
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I think it's a good idea to have prerequisites before engaging on this site such as reading the Goblet of Truth, The Psyche, etc. Prerequisites are normally required for any schooling, learning?
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Rob_stewart
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 03-2021
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 01:00 pm: |
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MsMichelle,
As some one new to the forum. I think that's a high bar. The Goblet of Truth is a true learning text. I honestly think you could read it a thousand times and not realise everything. However I agree that even with some texts and the forum I feel out my depth.
What would be useful is a summary of the teachings. There is so much. I actually asked Michael on theyflyblog.com if there was a decent video. I have been enjoying the books on the spiritual teaching YouTube channel. They run in my earphones while I work. With the dispersed nature of society its hard to form groups and this is nice. So I would really appreciate a video.
Its tricky obviously as the books give a different level of comprehension. However I also feel I need quite a bit of time to process. I also find the books also need applied, so reading something actually triggers a block of study. Frustratingly the study areas are not all written by the Plejaren so even finding decent books or experts is really tough.
I have so much I am going to come back to lol.
I actually find the contact reports are filled with examples that help. I also think its a great way to learn as I am searching so often. Back to your suggestion.
Could someone do almost a review of the teaching?
It could cover when each book was written. A summary of each book. Where books aid in understanding other books, maybe a recommendation on order. Finally a summary of key ideas explaining terms.
I think Christian did a great video on pronouncing words. Its actually really helpful.
Salome. |
Reen71b
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 06:30 pm: |
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I don't agree with it being a prerequisite. Everyone is at different stages of learning. And I don't think it's fair to limit someone on this site simply because he/she is in the beginning stages of learning. This is one of the first places I came to this site in 2003 to learn but did not become of member of the forum until last year because I didn't feel I was at a stage that I could contribute (Which I still don't most times.). In fact, I didn't buy any of the books until just a couple years ago. I'm still reading and will reread over and over. But, over the years since 2003, I came to this site almost daily just to read and learn as well as see other people's perspectives. I encourage new people like Wigs to ask as much as he wants. Hopefully, some of us will be more than willing to give answers or point him in the right direction to find the answers. Everyone has a choice to read or not to read posts. Let's at least be welcoming to anyone who wants to learn.
Maureen
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Schantz
Member
Post Number: 230
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 11:38 pm: |
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Msmichelle obviously you lack teaching skills, but yet you seem to be an expert on how others are able to learn.
The books you mentioned were not even written when I first engaged in this forum.
It's a good thing the prerequisite police weren't patrolling this site when I first came cruising here.
Free minds matter! |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 808
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2021 - 04:43 am: |
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Maureen, it helps to promote reading BEAMs books instead of just allowing people to ask questions and not allow them to research and discover the answers for themselves. We do not know all the answers, as a matter of fact, some on this site have mislead others towards other agendas. We are students only, BEAMs, Ps and their books and contact reports are our learning material to seek answers within ourselves. We are responsible for creating a healthy Psyche, Consciousness within ourselves. Studying, Reading, Contemplation are the right directions to point our visitors, members, etc
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Niko_sulonen
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2021 - 07:48 am: |
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Msmichelle,
Respectfully, isn't asking questions part of researching? There are as many ways to learn as there are people.
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Reen71b
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2021 - 04:40 pm: |
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@Msmichelle
Let people learn how they choose. You don't get to decide for them.
Maureen
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 809
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2021 - 09:12 am: |
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Niko and Maureen, you know, for years, others on the site have been asking questions and others have been providing answers in good faith and were well meaning, however, at some point, we are expected to elevate our engagements, conversations, responsibilities, just as we all do when "were learning" whether we are in school, college, learning a new language, skill, etc. BEAMs books are powerful. Some of the questions are answered in the contact reports too. In the past, we've asked people to search using the search engine on this site. The moderators have made some changes which have become easier to research certain topics. Some of the questions asked have been asked hundreds of times by other visitors and members over the last 20 years
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Wigs
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2021
| | Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2021 - 09:17 am: |
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Thank you all for your thoughts & contributions! I feel like a starving person & this website offers food! Just fyi, tho: Wigs is a her not a him. Not that it really matters much. I'm sure I will have more questions for y'all! |
Niko_sulonen
Member
Post Number: 77
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2021 - 02:02 am: |
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Msmichelle,
I'm not sure what you mean with elevating our engagements, conversations etc.? And who might be expecting that? Aside from you, presumably.
The way I see it, is that this is a public forum where people from all walks of life can come and present questions freely and discuss freely in the guidelines of the topics set in this forum.
If you are seeking more "elevated" conversations, then there are study groups for a more in-depth discussion about the books and the teaching of the Creation-energy.
It seems to me, that you are treating this forum as a personal library or an archive of sort, where you are the librarian telling others to behave by your rules. However, I stand to be corrected.
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 810
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2021 - 09:12 am: |
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Niko, thanks for asking for clarification. My point, lots of people are coming and going from the site and "take snippets" of our conversations, and misinformation is usually the results...meaning, "sticking their heads into a room and pick up on years old conversations". BEAMs has published many books for all to read and study. Not to mention, several contact reports are now available for all to read as well, which provide insights on questions asked over the years.
If you have AA, go to page 404 and start with verse 55 and give me your thoughts (or anyone for that matter) and lets take it from there...
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 125
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2021 - 04:27 pm: |
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Wigs: "3. There are many types of people in the world, and none are without fault, but there is value in everyone. Over the years, I have been inspired by so-called "great ones" (the Dalai Lama, for ex.), but there is something to be learned from everyone! Here's my point: I think proving so&so is a fraud, bashing someone's good name, or revealing how horrible someone really was is a waste of time. The message that we messed up our own lives is a good one, but I find it off-putting to hear over & over again how this human is a screwup or just how bad conditions really are here . We are here now. We cannot control other people nor change the past. How many times must our incompetence as a race be proven unworthy? I am desperately looking for something more productive. Is this a place where I can find this?"
Hello Wigs, welcome to the FIGU forum, and please feel free to think of as, "a more productive place." You are quite right, "there is value in everyone." and "there is something to be learned from everyone!" Billy himself has espoused this truth throughout his writings. Although you gave no specifics with regards to your question, I have a sense of what you are referring to and so will speak in generalities.
If you have not already, you will find contained within the teaching of the creational energy, the concept of "neutral-positive" thinking. I will not get into a full explanation here, but to see things as they truly are it is paramount to observe and manage one's personal consciousness in a neutrally balanced manner, so as to not be influenced unduly by our emotions. So for example, let's say Billy refers to someone as being "ignorant". The definition of that word simply has to do with lacking knowledge... Ignorant is just lack of knowledge. And if that person is indeed lacking knowledge in a certain area than Billy is just speaking factually - he is stating what IS SO. If one responds to the word "ignorant" as being "insulting" than one is consciously responding to the negative quality only of that word - ipso facto, unbalanced. The same applies with the words; liar, fraud, charlatan, etc.
At the beginning preface of a lot of Billy's books it is stated that many ideas are repeated over and over as part of the human learning process. So if something is repeated many times by Billy, that's a good clue that it is an important concept that Billy wants people to grasp. Repetition works. We have seen first hand just how well it works in the last presidential election cycle when so many people believed certain lies about the election results just because they were repeated so often.
Ask yourself, if you were experiencing physical pain; i.e. illness, would you prefer to see a doctor who simply said, "No worries, just take these pain killers and the pain will quickly go away." Or a doctor who says, "I'll tell you straight, you have a serious problem developing here that requires immediate attention - you have been mistreating your body for years and a paradigm shift in your lifestyle is required. It will not be easy, require diligence every single day; but, if you make these changes you will not only prevent a painful death but begin to thrive like a true human being beyond what you might have imagined."
Regards
Bob |
Reen71b
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2021 - 06:05 pm: |
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You don't have to engage in any conversation that you do not want to be involved in. People will do what they want to do. You have no control over that. The only person you can control or sway one way or another is yourself. I will continue to educate myself without telling someone what they should or shouldn't be doing on this forum. So those who are chosing to 'take snippets' isn't your concern because you have no control over what people choose to do. Advising someone to read a page and verse out of the AA is no different than someone picking a scripture out of the bible and telling someone to read that. That borders on proselytizing. If you wish to engage in 'elevated' conversations, then maybe finding some like-minded people would be beneficial to you.
Maureen
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Niko_sulonen
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2021 - 03:29 am: |
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Msmichelle,
Well, it is a public forum and every subject is open for discussion, doesn't matter if it was brought up years or mere days ago.
As new people come in, they might have new and refreshing perspectives on subjects that are deemed 'old' and 'already discussed', so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss new people for presenting questions, 'taking snippets' etc.
After all, what we think and feel is true now, might not be the truth in the end.
I realize that I must also be ignorant in many ways that I am not yet aware of, so that my future self may look back some day and learn something new from this 'past', about this present moment, and in this way become a little bit less ignorant.
I read the part in Arahat Athersata that you are referring to, and my thoughts are: Why do you want me, or us, to read this? The teaching text is to be used for self-development and self-analysis, it is not to be used as 'ammunition' for arguments.
What you may learn and understand from the text, I may not, so it is ambiguous. As such, the understanding and the learning of the teaching is 'in the eye of the beholder', so to speak. And who is to say that the one who's doing the beholding, got it right?
If you wish others to read a part of the teaching, then at least attach your own ideas about it right next to it, so the message can be heard more clearly and a proper answer can be formulated.
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 811
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 04:43 am: |
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Thanks for the response, I love it, whether it's good or bad or negative or positive. I can take it, trust me! These interactions help me deal the current environment, because it is easy to go back and forth on a forum, however, face to face is quite different and difficult. Now, consider all being said, now attempt to tell this to population face to face or in meetings, on the street, within family circles.
Therefore, I'm not offended, plus, remember you can avoid me like others avoid the "corna virus" 
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 812
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 05:59 am: |
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Let me also share this before I forget. When faced with people face to face, in most cases, they are presenting a "false face" meaning, they are telling me what they want to hear, blah, blah, blah, however, the social media platform has opened up "internal or private conversations" most would not dare say to another person, because they can "hide" behind their screen names, etc. It is easier to "talk" online and hurl the most, vile comments.
My current employment is under "well-deserved" scrutiny due to recent and passed events, unfortunately, the systemic aspects are true! The brutality, profiling, murdering, etc. I've been outspoken most of my career, and usually I am the target of "investigations" and threatened with discipline because I refuse to compromise on the truth. Now my colleagues have come to my defense as well, because they also now "see" the troubling violations against innocent citizens, employees and others. I'm telling you all of this for a reason, if it were not for reading the BEAMs books, reports, etc., I would be just as stupid as most of the population to some of the hidden atrocities. We (on this forum) will never, ever agree and thankfully, that is the case. I hope all of you, however, are just as vocal in your line of employment, neighborhoods, families and are willing to stand up to abuse, violations, hatred, etc., not just on forums, but face to face, if you can safely do so
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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