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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2021 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darcy wasn't there a TV show around 2012 where in the first episode it started off with many dead bodies strewn in the desert somewhere who all ended up in a military installation with all of them coming back to life.
I don't know who she was that told you this but if a moon crashed to earth I would imagine that that would've been an all annihilating extinction level event for all life on earth.
As for these descendants of ancient ETs living underground I think that they are receptive to people's thoughts being sent out to them.
I think I had some success as crazy as this sounds.
As it was the case for my first attempt at communicating with them back in 2006 the recent UFO sighting of mine occurred after I've sent a thought message out there for my wish to see their ship.
They've responded with an exhibition of their antigravity ship.



Matt lee
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Kenneth
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Hi Darcy,

I have never heard this story that was told to you from the Toronto Canada woman. Do you know where she got her information? Could this woman possibly be of the Indigenous Peoples of Tkaronto? This would most likely include the Mississaugas, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee, Wendat, Inuit and Metis peoples. Their stories are handed down from generation to generation with little written documentation.

If I recall correctly, it is my understanding that the two Earth Moons were swept away by the Destroyer Planet-comet (cosmic upheaval) millions of years ago. Earth may have been without a Moon for a period of time?

According to Contact Report 005, Earth’s Moon is a fragment of a planet from an entirely different star system and is 4 to 5 million years older than the Earth.

Our distant descendants from the future and their time traveling capabilities must know this as well?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Moon_(Earth)#Earths_Moons_in_the_contact_reports

and

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_005

Salome
Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2021 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More anomalous features of this UFO that indicates it is of a much higher technical standards than the best developed black budget secret access project UFOs of terrestrial manufacture.









Matt lee
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Bianca
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Matt, Very interesting interaction. I may have had a similar sighting.

Can someone please explain in earth language the meaning of "earth people from the future" and where are they now?

This term appears in contact report translation but so far figu has not given any explanations as to who these people are. Could these ETs be those who did the face and the binary code message back in early 2000?
Thank you.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2021 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as my memory serves Bianca I think I've read it in CR above 710ish where Billy describes a little bit about this term.
I alway thought to myself that after reading this term for a number of years that it refers to people from the future but I think this conclusion is wrong.
What it may be referring to by Billy when the term future earth human beings is used is about people who are considerably far in advance of us socially and technologically than usnormal terrestrials living above ground.
This may indicate that they are the descendants of ancient ET races stranded on earth millianias ago.
Now the term foreigners is also an interesting word in that this term demarcates and clearly separates what its describing from the normal terrestrials as if they aren't part of us surface dwelling terrestrials.
Then the only inevitable conclusion I can draw from it is that all these terms used by Billy and the Plejaren is essentially referring to the same groups of people living in secret underground cities in what Billy describes as kind of a dictatorship.

I could be wrong of course but to me it makes logical sense.

I get the feeling that they've tried to intervene and get in touch with a terrestrial government probably the US if my interpretation of the recent contact notes is correct.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2021 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for the interesting photos, Matt.

Re. term "earth people from the future" ...

Would you know the CR in which this term is explained? A few years back, after scanning several CRs I came to this conclusion:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/18262.html#POST90527

That is to say, like you, I always thought this term refers to people of our planet of a future time (different to the blue race) who return to our time - and who (without having any contact with the blue race) built their space ships like the ones the blue race of subterranean Agartha have.

Bill
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2021 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your welcome Bill
The context behind this footage I personally took back in January was at my work place.
Something impulsed me to look at the direction I don't normally look at at that time of the morning.
As soon as I turn my head around because of this sudden sensation and urge to look I initially saw neat rows of what looked like rows of satellites I assumed was the Starlink only that the individual lights looked bigger than your usual satellites you normally see above that time of the morning.
If you could imagine the pheonix lights from 1997 mimicking a trajectory of the starlink satellite that would be it.
Although in hindsight I did notice that it didn't have as many lights as what a starlink train should have.
Anyway as soon as I saw the UFOs I brought this to the attention of a collegue who also saw it until it disappeared over the horizon.
He snapped a few photos whilst I took a short video footage of the sighting.
The blue ring like UFO with lightening strike happening inside the ring wasn't even there during our initial sighting.
I only noticed it after reviewing it recently.
So they are very smart indeed to integrate the semi plausibility factor by positioning their UFO right above a bright flood light and made it so that I alone was the only person who's smartphone captured the blue ringed UFO because after reviewing my collegues photos it didn't appear on his photos but only the giant phenoix light like train of lights.
As I explained before the context behind how I got to see these UFOs was that like it was the case back in 2006 I sent out a thought message for my wish to see them a number of times for a number of weeks and projected an image of UFO as how I would like to see them onto the night sky.
The message would accompany me negatively digressing by hearing my own little whispers to myself saying gee why would they want to show themselves to you of all people like it was the case back in 2006.
But for some unknown reason they did show themselves and without a shadow of doubt I know I don't have a powerful a consciousness to produce such a fatima so I can preclude this.
Obviously I did some further research about the exact location of the Starlink and its times where its observable from my location and I can 100% preclude this out of the list of possible explanation as well.
And no these are screenshot of raw files that haven't been altered or manipulated in any way with video editing software so I can also preclude this out of the list with 100% surety.
Obviously people can come up with all rationale to conclude that this footage is fake or that they can thrown in a ridiculous theory that it was a glitch in the phone camera or a light reflecting off of the lense to even saying it could be drone or a bird of unknow species (what!!!!!?)

Anyway each must decide or even choose not to decide what it is because at the end of the day I guess it really doesn't matter anymore.

Matt lee
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Bianca
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Matt and Bill for your thoughts, a lot makes sense.
I was also thinking if there is the possibility that those living here underground, maybe they are not the friendliest and they are meddling in our earth affairs and causing so much grief with religious shenanigans including Billy's troubles with the typewriter? - am I stretching it too much?

I took this photo months ago and only noticed late in the day that there are 3 spots in the sky. I knew that these are not the Plejaren because I had no sensitive - fine feelings when I took the photo.
I was encouraged to send the photo to Billy to verify who these guys are, but again I had no specific desire to think about them too much, so I emailed and asked Christian instead but I have not received a reply yet. My thinking is leaning towards the notion that ETs who fly in our terrestrial air space are doing so just for fun and they did not cloak their ships.
But I am curious what were they looking for above my property which is 120 kms out of the city of Melbourne? maybe they were curious about the shape of the house, which is not a square?
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Scott
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is Bianca's photo:

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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am fairly certain the group from the future earth is The Figu, everyone (on earth) will be The Figu when we can travel time... It could be Matt Lee and Scott buzzing The Figu HQ, eheh...

Matt Lee, i explained what the gigantic force in Agarta is in the meditation thread years ago, (In detail) and how The Figu Folks who live The Teaching can meditate and find it if they wish... (in meditation)
The Gigantic force is a huge intergalactic meditation room, based on a kinda Creation device underneath it, looks like a crystal bowl with globes above and around it in circular fashion. Its got black n white tiled floor like The Masons depict but they dont know about the balls/globes and bowl beyond the pillars.

I know i sound strange sometimes but i am doing my best to keep it tame... They let
folks in if you live The Teaching and seek it out, i showed them what i can do in meditation and bam in a flash i was in front of the Gigantic force...(in meditation that is) when u seek it out you can sense a door, thats when i visualised amazing things i can do or seen in meditation. So they would let me in.

I use the pyramids at Giza and other places to restore my knowledge/wisdomLove doing a dedicated meditation on numbers 3 to 9, then looked for Agarta.
As described in Emerald Tablets of Thoth,after i read The free English Teaching...



Billy will know if my description in meditation thread is true or not.



In front of the gigantic force is a lion with one paw resting on a ball. We All Roar As One...

2 chairs on the right hand side (if your looking at the Gigantic Force.) Thats where you get the real 3rd degree from them as soon as you get in. (sussed out...)

Salome
ilovebilly
i got lots to say but not sure howto do it and sound sane, do u think the bloke who designed the pyramids on earths and in universes could sound sane or would he just say G'day.
or
(((Energy is Thought to The Power of Seven)))

Everything i post on figu.org forum The Figu can use as Figu material as they wish.
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re. term "earth people from the future" ...

Would you know the CR in which this term is explained?

Sorry Bill but I usually read multiples of CR at the same time with what I've read basically enmeshing with each other and my memory not being all that great I normally don't pay that much of an attention to what CR its from but rather focus more on the content of the discussion between Billy and the Plejaren.
So I have no idea other than the fact that its located above contact report 710 but even then I could still be wrong about this.
Another thing is that the CRs you get these days are very long and extensive with so much breath and scope of topics covered therefore its impossible to remember it all unless we all receive the mini drone from the plejaren to record everything that we've ever read and every thought that we've ever generated neatly organised and speedily retrievable at moments notice whenever its required.
I've noticed that the psychological effect of the way the conversations are arranged where it quickly darts from one topic to the next multiple times and sometimes back again is that it improves your associative memory where certain triggers, often a word, idea or sentence, brings back the things you remembered in the CR but when you try to recall it consciously you'd be hard pressed to do it unless you read that particular CR hundreds of times or jotted down some notes about it or you deliberately memorised certain part of the conversation.

The inner workings of the strategic and intelligent way that the conversations as well as books are conducted and written with often certain points about the topic repeated over and over and over again is that I think it bypasses your conscious mind and buries itself deeply into your subconscious mind (mainstream term) that lasts forever.
Obviously you get bored s***less sometimes if you consume and read too much of it as mental fatigue sets in and there is no active intelligentum activity and interaction of me myself and I engaging with the topic of the conversation as it has shut off into passivity due to exhaution.
So theres nothing there, no you engaged and here is where you start thinking about something else being distracted, uninterested and falling into escapism.

So like they say everything in moderation and too much of one thing is not good for you etc.

So getting back I don't remember Bill other than the fact that I've read it somewhere in CR where Billy did discuss about future earth human beings in those terms.

Cheers
Matt lee
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Scott
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Matt,

I have seen this statement before, but I haven't been able to locate it yet. I thought it might have been in one of the earlier bulletins, or possibly in CR 31, If I come across it, I"ll post the link.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2021 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its a great sighting Bianca
Its got the whole lot and one of the advantages of a daytime sighting is the clear visibility of it all.
What you have is possibly 5 UFOs in one photo and not just 3.
The bottom left UFO seem to be a triangular shaped UFO or like the so called 'Belgium triangle UFO'
The next 2 appears to be round disc shaped UFO.
The 4th and the 5th is outside the visible spectrum and its near infrared.
The top left corner UFO is clearly round ball shaped shifted outside of the visible spectrum.
The bottom right corner one is much further away and its undeterminable.








Matt lee

(Message edited by Scott on May 07, 2021)
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Newinitiation
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Joe
It could be Matt Lee and Scott buzzing The Figu HQ, eheh...

Hehe or it might just be from the bright arc of me and scott 7018 low hydrogen stick welding the carbon steel dome structure over the SSSC to keep out all these pesky future earth human beings from waking up the FIGU residence at night.

Either way we'll put on a great light show.
How about it Scott? You got that Lincoln Invertec 160SX Caddy Welder 10A ready?
I'll provide the electrodes with a hotbox and a carton of Namur express chilled in an esky.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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“Erdzukünftige”

It's OK, Matt: Your information was still very helpful. Combining it (“info from a CR above 700” ) with the German word in question “Erdzukünftige” I now found a short reference (not really much of an information) about this group in CR 711 which seemingly translates the term “Erdzukünftige” with “foreigners to … the earth of the future” and maybe this is the cause of the misunderstanding.
CR 711 (Billy) “… But then I would now like to address something else, which is again and again mentioned by different people, namely why you Plejaren have been holding yourselves back since time immemorial and have not cultivated any direct contact with Earthlings since time immemorial, but only indirect and moreover only one-sided impulsive contacts with Earthlings and also today will not cultivate any direct contacts, as also not in the future, like you have held this since time immemorial also with regard to foreigners to Earth and the Earth of the future…”

German Original

„…Dann möchte ich jetzt aber etwas anderes ansprechen, das immer wieder von verschiedenen Leuten zur Rede gebracht wird, nämlich warum ihr Plejaren euch seit alters her zurückhaltet und seit jeher keinerlei direkte, sondern nur indirekte und zudem nur einseitige impulsmässige Kontakte zu Erdlingen gepflegt habt und auch heute keine direkte Kontakte pflegen werdet, wie auch zukünftig nicht, wie ihr das seit alters her auch in bezug auf die Erdfremden und Erdzukünftigen haltet…“

https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_711

So what may be a better translation of “Erdzukünftige[n]” ?
Well, in my understanding it should be “those that will inhabit earth in the future / in a future time”.
The main difference being that it is not foreigners but earthlings that are a part of the UFO folks in our skies.

Bill

*)
I only scanned the “above 700” CR translations on the FoM website – there are many not yet translated “above 700” CRs and maybe the passage you are referring to is in one of those?

By the way: From your (Sydney) and Bianca's (Melbourne) information one may get the impression that Australia is, indeed, "home to many UFOs" - May be my statement in ....

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/18262.html#POST90527

PS
If you live in Australia, Argentina or Chile you may want to watch out for those (IMO androids from Zeti Reticuli) that may be stationed in the Antarctic and have "UFOs with headlights" - which they use to say "hello, I am here"

.... it may have been apart from the missing headlights (dazzling onlookers) not so wrong after all.
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Newinitiation
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I think this one is a little better



Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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No worries Scott

Cheers
Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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No Bill that quote from the CR 711 isn't it.
If I remember correctly it was a little more expounded than that.

Cheers
Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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“Erdzukünftige” Part 2

You are right Matt, there is not much of an explanation of “Erdzukünftige” in CR 711.
But in this report – as in previous reports - Billy explains the term “Erdzukünftige” by contrasting them to other groups “alien to earth” (and in CR 602 “parallel space related” aliens):
From Billy's contrasting “Erdzukünftige” to aliens in several CRs we may deduce that the “Erdzukünftige” are neither “aliens” (= not from earth) nor from “parallel space” planet.
IOW:
We may deduce that “Erdzukünftige” are from our planet (in the future) in our (rather than a parallel) space-time.

CR519 Apr 2, 2011
Billy
This is apart from the Skrills and the bio-organic flying objects as well as the “Erdzukünftigen” from other dimensions, as you say.

CR 531 (Dec 5, 2011)
Billy
So it is also possible that sometimes not only your flying objects can be observed, but also those of the Earth aliens unknown to you as well as the “Erdzukünftige”?

CR 556 (Mar 16, 2013)
Billy:
I gather from your words that you do not know whether the three foreign groups are Earth aliens, that is, extraterrestrials, or “Erdzukünftige”, or ... secret Earth military machines?

CR 602 (Nov 22, 2014)
Billy:
… it's just a matter of you knowing that at least two groupings definitely come from outside our present, one being “Erdzukünftige” and the other parallel space-related.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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NB

CR 519 refers to “Erdzukünftige” ‘from other dimensions’ – which could be interpreted as earth humans that have left our planet for a future planet after it did not support life any longer.
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Bianca
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Hi Matt,
Thanks again for your eagle eye, I had no way to see the details you can see.
But now a question: these ETs were just saying hello to me, weren't they? do we have any previous knowledge of them contacting earthlings like us? and as in your previous post, they can receive your or anyone's thoughts and respond, but are they harmless?
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Bianca
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I just finished reading the most enriching material in Contact report number 721, and if memory serves me still... there is a mention of other ETs who live on earth. This report is so long and so dense and I find it fascinating for it describes the earth's history, it also explains the terms of ethos, morals, ethos, the philosophical terms of soul vs spirit and so much more. It took me a whole week to quietly read it and I am hoping that most has been absorbed...
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Newinitiation
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Its all very confusing at the moment Bill not that it really matters in the end but whenever a big question mark lingers about any subject matter the natural human response is to try and resolve it so that the truth is established and further understanding gained.

All I can determine about the term future earth human beings according to my limited understanding is that they are the descendants of extraterrestrial human beings who live underground and who are much more technologically advanced than us surface dwelling civilisation.
As far as I am concerned they are not from our terrestrial future and as indicated by the Plejaren, time travelling technology and time travelling itself is so much more complex and complicated than what us earthlings might be able to achieve within the next 2000 years and if our future progeny did achieve it then obviously they must be millenias ahead which is antithetical to the plejaren statement that these future earth human beings follow no creational law or something to that effect.
If you do the maths within 800 years we would've taken on board the Creational spiritual reality.
This is not enough for us to achieve time travelling technology.
We would've already recognised the truth about the Creational spiritual reality way before we would've achieved time travelling technology.
This indicates one thing in that these future earth human being are not from our terrestrial future who time travelled back to their past to our present era.

Matt lee

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