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    Aristea Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2019 |
Hi Ms Michelle. IMO part of the problem in this forum, with conversations and debates is the fact that most of the participants are male. Because they are male and inclined to believe that they hold the power (and I have seen that in FIGU this is the case) they are inclined to put down a woman with an opinion. Now men, you need to admit that in the structure of FIGU most of the people who are the "leaders" are male. Other than Catherine Mossman here in Canada, I have seriously seen little of female participants. So Michelle, girl you go for it and don't let the boys beat you down! Thanks for telling us about your work situation and problems with getting people to face up to the truth (wherever this confrontation is occurring). I work in the R.C. church and believe me, there's a problem with integrity and truthfulness there. I continue to work for them so that more truth can be exposed, but right now I'm carrying a heavy burden of knowledge about certain misbehaviors among local priests, and am feeling quite depressed.. . . . there too, the voice of the woman is beaten down and considered to be irrelevant and unimportant. Leave not for tomorrow what you can accomplish today! | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2019 |
Hi Wigs, nice to meet you in the forum. Since you seem new to everything, I might add some information in a nutshell that is absolutely essential to understanding what's going on with Billy Meier. Billy (Eduard Albert Meier) is the reincarnated persona of two historical earth figures, who lived at different eras of our history. The first figure is the Old Testament prophet Henoch. Google him and you'll find out about him. The second is the figure of the Prophet Mohammed, who lived around 600 CE. He is the source of the Islamic religion, although Billy denies that the Muslim people are actually following the teachings of Mohammed and have corrupted these teachings into a religion which does not represent him truthfully. Both of these prophets came to earth with a mission, to teach the earthlings how to improve themselves spiritually and to move them in the direction of "goodness". Billy often laments the state of affairs on the earth, throwing up his hands in despair and futility, that the earth people are simply heaping misery after misery upon themselves. Billy is a telepath of the first order, and it's nothing to him to have voluminous mental conversations with other telepaths. Real information can be and is exchanged among telepaths, who regard that information as "real" as if they had obtained it in a visible form. They do not doubt the validity of their communications. Most earth people aren't telepaths and Billy suggests that those who think they are, are victims of manipulations of higher powers. I agree with you Wigs, that there is much real information out there, which is either being denied by Billy and FIGU, or just ignored. My pet peeve is that nothing is ever mentioned about Agartha, Telos or the Hollow Earth. . . . Hyperborea in the old Greek tales. Billy sometimes mentions craft flying around which come from inside the earth. However, we are not allowed to discuss it. Another peeve of mine is the negative attitude toward the "Giza" intelligences. It is my own belief/knowledge that the Giza intelligences were doing more to protect the earth from other alien influences/attacks, than Billy or the Plejaren are willing to admit. Black is not always black in truth, and white isn't always white either. Sometimes blackness cloaks us in safety and the light leads us to some kind of damnation. Wigs, you need to choose and then follow your own path, and don't let yourself be manipulated into giving anyone a clear pass into your inner mind. Those roads are usually blocked for a reason. Billy has mental power unlike most people you will have met, and can easily enter into your subconscious mind with his spirit and live in you. . . .keep your guard up when and if you ever interact with him personally! Keep well! Leave not for tomorrow what you can accomplish today! | ||
Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 11-2008 |
Msmichelle, These forum debates can also paint a cold picture about the participants, since there is no way to translate one's feelings and facial expressions and such into text. Also different cultural aspects and perspectives might come into play, since people from all over the world post here, and one would imagine there would be some misunderstandings because of that. It was not my intention to attack, 'beat down' on you or underrate your opinion, but just to argue it in a friendly manner. I'm not sure if that's what Aristea was insinuating in her post, that as a male I was trying to put you down, but again, it's hard to tell from a forum post! Sorry to hear about your workplace conditions, it sounds rough. Unfortunately it is the norm that the truth doesn't serve the powerful, and thus it has to be silenced. But seems like you have paved the way for your colleagues who are now also beginning to see behind the curtain, and with that you are setting an example for others to follow. I think that's more than words can say. Aristea, I'm not disagreeing with your post, because the male world is quite filled with machoism, egoism, bravado, domineering and all that nonsense, but what you said about most "leaders" in the structure of FIGU being male, I'm not sure if that is the case. At least when I visited the SSSC in Switzerland, I saw a lot of hard working women there who are responsible for many important parts in the organization. Salome, Niko I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 874 Registered: 07-2006 |
Aristea and anyone else interested in The position of Women in FIGU, There is a series of five articles written by FIGU which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/FIGU-Society/About-FIGU/The-Position-of-Women-in-FIGU Hope this helps. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1282 Registered: 04-2013 |
Greetings Wigs, Welcome to the FIGU forum, your open honesty is refreshing. Cutting to the chase, when I discovered Billy Meier before I joined the Forum, I read the Contact Reports (CR) starting with Number One. http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Asket's_Acquaintanceship I too felt like I was starving for knowledge. Besides Billy’s experiences, I agree that the Contact Reports are filled with examples that help and I too was desperately looking for something more productive. Everyone will work through this information at their own pace. For myself, reading the CR’s in chronological order was extremely beneficial. You will know when it is the right time to purchase some of Billy’s books on the Spiritual-Creational Teaching. Sincerely Kenneth | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 611 Registered: 11-2008 |
I have just listened to the Joe Rogan Experience (JRE) #1645 with Christopher Mellon and unsurprisingly both seem to be dismissive of Billy Meier. Joe Rogan thought that Billy is from Denmark and finds him 'hilarious' whereas Christopher Mellon calls Billy 'the Swiss guy' and is a 'fabricator'. In my opinion, I think that Joe Rogan should at least have had the decency to be neutral about the Billy Meier UFO case because he clearly knows very little about it. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1532 Registered: 07-2009 |
Joe Rogan is what happens when an ignorant guy with a big ego, two much money and pot-addled brain thinks he should talk about UFOs. We gave him the Photo-Inventarium last year and he ended up commenting online that Meier's UFO photos must've been done with Photoshop. So now this dummy is playing into the hands of the dark agenda of the US intelligence agencies. Look into Christopher Mellon, Lue Elizondo, etc. This isn't going to go well for the US (or anyone else). See also: https://youtu.be/JOK_B9-B1dI https://theyflyblog.com/2021/04/the-ufo-disinformation-campaign-for-dummies/ https://youtu.be/0A9C33DblsM | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2536 Registered: 07-2005 |
Michael don't you get the feeling that maybe Rogan was fed a lot of BS about Billy by his tight knit circles of equally drug addled braindead mates. Hence his aversion for anything Billy. I thought that maybe he would've let Dan Akroyd expound upon Billy a little more but the way he shut that conversation up led me to believe that either he was told not to touch upon that subject or he may have been warned not to stray from the status quo. Either way its not good as still stupidity and cowardism rules the world and it is this shovel that is still burying the truth. Matt lee | ||
Rob_stewart Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2021 |
I just posted on theyflyblog about this as well. I still have hope for Joe. He is normally pretty neutral about things. I don't know anyone who used photo shop in the 70s but I do recall getting a shot of it in the 80s - it didn't help a bad photo. Using it to create the clear images Billy produced is a bona-fide miracle. I would note on the show there's all the usual hallmarks of deception. Small truth mystery, small truth theory, theory leads to big lie. Big lie matches small truth. Theory matches big lie. Mystery revealed as lies theory and big lie must be true as it matches the small truths. I honestly think you deserve a chance to at least reply Michael. No idea how we convince Joe about free speech  Salome | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1533 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Rob, I'd be delighted to educate Joe Rogan but anyone who has a professed interest in UFOs - and the unlimited resources Rogan has - and to whom the Photo-Inventarium was given, only to hear make his stupid Photoshop remark...doesn't want and/or is incapable of grasping the truth. I do find Chris Mellon to be an intelligent person but how is it possible for someone so interested in UFOs since childhood to not really know about hte Meier contacts, especially when they have worked in the intelligence services? Didn't the CIA tell him they've been monitoring Meier since the 1970s? UNLIKELY. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1007 Registered: 04-2015 |
MH, That's so true about Rogan and the others! They play dumb or pretend not to know! We should not count on any help from these type of people. It reminds me of that old saying - "if they're not with us, they're against us"! | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 262 Registered: 01-2011 |
Humanity now stands at a crossroad; we will either continue to destroy the Earth and its inhabitants through ignorance, warfare, and conflict, or we’ll reach a state of spiritual enlightenment and social maturity from which we acknowledge our inherent oneness. If not, then powerful technologies will remain in the hands of people who are submerged in ignorance, superstition, and conflict. But, those conditions cannot exist alongside the state of oneness that is the true wellspring of compassion. As the Buddha said, you can not do violence to another when you realize oneness Greer, Steven M.. Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge (p. 40). Crossing Point, Inc.. Kindle Edition. And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1535 Registered: 07-2009 |
How wonderful, or: https://theyflyblog.com/2021/07/an-open-letter-to-the-disclosure-project-and-anna-kramer/ | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 03-2007 |
Bronzedesk, Why are you advertising Greer's disinformation book on the FIGU forum? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2596 Registered: 07-2005 |
Did Billy filmed this Ptaah's ship passed off as somebody's work according to the commentator because it does look like a very legitimate Billy's effort with the unique signature in the form of flashing light effect only ptaah's ship exhibits.  Matt lee | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1536 Registered: 07-2009 |
No, this was a fake with a model from Phil Langdon, ss both Francisco VIllate and Chris Lock pointed out. They also explained that Langdon attached the model to his camera to get some of the effects and that, if people pay attention, they'll see that the sharpness of the glint is a giveaway of how close the camera was to the model. Of course, Langdon is going crazy because he still can't duplicate the actual...FLASHING LIGHTS on the craft in Meier's film. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2596 Registered: 07-2005 |
Of course, Langdon is going crazy because he still can't duplicate the actual...FLASHING LIGHTS on the craft in Meier's film. Michael I think he did although not as good as the real McCoy it is still a good fraudulent job he did.   Matt lee | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1363 Registered: 08-2010 |
I had a few email exchanges with Langdon. I told him that if Meier did fake his videos and photos as Langdon faked it, then the analysis should show the same results. Langdon refused and even offered a threat to sue. Langdon knows he is the fraud and that he has an agenda. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1537 Registered: 07-2009 |
I agree. I corresponded with Langdon in 2009, when he began trying to duplicate Meier's films. I pointed things out and then he went and "fixed" them. I always said he's an excellent model maker but he's also a deluded religious nut and his obsession to try and prove Meier "hoaxed" his evidence is driving him (further) nuts. | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 243 Registered: 03-2007 |
Eddie, Sue who? I don't know who she is but he shouldn't be threatening her or anyone else regardless of what he thinks of the photos. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1364 Registered: 08-2010 |
Schantz, Langdon threatened to sue me if I took his photographs and videos to Cal Tech and had them analyzed. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1538 Registered: 07-2009 |
Eddie, You don't need anyone's permission to analyze photos. Meier GAVE all his evidence for analysis, tells you something right there. Plus, Langdon's threat to sue is beyond bogus. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1365 Registered: 08-2010 |
Michael, Yeah, the threat was rather comical. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) |
