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Hugo
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Post Number: 1049
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 - 05:17 pm: | 
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Hi Thomast,
Welcome to the forum!
It is a mistake to put all crop circles into the same basket as most are done by Earthly hoaxers. That's why the Plejaran say that crop circles are Earth human made. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2021 - 01:03 pm: |
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Thomast: "WHY do the Plejarans insist that crop circles are Earth human made, even claiming they observed one being 'constructed)? In any case, mostly there are no tracks, and circles appear almost instantly however large or complex."
Hi, Thomas. In an earlier Contact Report, that is what was told to Billy. But, that statement would later be revised in a Contact on 13th May 1996:
Billy:
On your last visit you also told me that with regard to the so-called crop circles everything is no longer of a purely earthly human nature, but that for some time now there have also been earth-foreigner influences at play?
Ptaah:
6. That's also true, but I do not want to go into any more detail about it, because we are not allowed to interfere in things and events that are not compatible with our mission.
7. We must not disregard our directives and therefore not violate them.
Billy:
Then things have actually changed with regard to crop circle forgeries in certain things, just in the sense that now also extraterrestrial influences are involved.
Ptaah:
8. This has actually been the case for quite some time in terms of vibration.
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13. Through the pictograms, in which even terrestrial humans have a hand in the matter, terrestrial humanity is supposed to be slowly confronted with things of the future, even if this is indeed a very primitive procedure – tailored to terrestrial humans.
Billy:
And you have been silent about that for so long. But you could have told me that and I would not have been misdirected. I also would have published these new findings in the Bulletin or in the WZ to orient our members and readers.
To read this contact report in its' entirety, you can go to CR 269 where it is embedded as an attachment. You must scroll down the initial conversation numbering and it begins after Ptaah's 48th sentence.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_269
Regards
Bob |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3439
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 08:35 am: |
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Thanks Bob,
I just noticed this, very interesting... |
Adxok
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2021 - 05:22 am: |
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I have a question to all and to Billy:
Can a person be conceived in interstellar ship far away from an inhabited planet?
Can a person be born in a spaceship far away from an inhabited planet?
Can a person be conceived in one Time frame, but then the mother to travel in another Time frame and give birth? |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1374
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2021 - 08:21 am: |
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Hello Adxok,
Good questions. Just so that you are aware, Billy does not read messages/blogs on the FIGU forum.
It is my understanding that births can happen the same way as deaths during space travel. In other words, if a human being dies far away from an inhabited planet in an interstellar ship, that spiritform will locate a planet close to that spiritforms level of human development for reincarnation when the time is appropriate. Likewise, births should happen in the same way.
Regarding your question, “Can a person be conceived in one Time frame, but then the mother to travel in another Time frame and give birth?” When you say, “Time frame”, this could relate to time-travel or dimension-travel. My understanding is that after the 21st day of conception, the fetus is essentially a human being and should be able to travel as the mother does if the technology and spiritual development is sufficiently formed to prevent birth defects.
However, this does bring up the question and uncertainty whether the fetus in gestation/development period will have access to their original planetary consciousness-block at the suitable time?
This answer may be found in the article that PatM posted in the Creation-energy Teaching: The Spirit (Creation-Energy), Spirit Forms and the Psyche:
“The entire corrected/translated document 'Processes after the dying - Spirit-form, consciousness-block and overall-consciousness-block (Vorgänge nach dem Sterben - Geistform, Bewusstseinblock und Gesamtbewusstseinblock)' from Billy's Book 'Rebirth, Life, Dying, Death and Sorrow (Wiedergeburt, Leben, Sterben, Tod Und Trauer)' pages 120-124 can be found here:”
https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/120-Processesafterthedying-Spirit-formandoverall-consciousness-block-sec.pdf
Salome
Kenneth |
Norm
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2021 - 06:18 pm: |
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Adxok,
Reincarnating onto star ships
From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):
If a slow moving (primitive) space ship takes several generations to reach it's destination planet, and during this journey babies are born in this ship (therefor increasing it's population), where would the spirit forms come from?
Answer: Hi Jean Pierre,
The spirit forms would come from the nearest planet that is inhabited by human beings (where the people are at least as highly developed/evolved as the people in the space ship).
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Reincarnation |
Matthew
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2022 - 03:59 am: |
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"First ever wandering black hole discovered in our galaxy".
If interested, please search RT online for the article today with that title, which corroborates the following information from Contact Report 223, from Sunday, 1st May, 1988.
"Billy:
Thanks. And since we’re already at it, I would like to come to speak again on the black hole of our Milky Way, of which we spoke – if I remember correctly – on the 30th of May, 1987. By its attractive force, we don’t simply fly with our SOL system uncontrollably out into space but rather are somehow still held within the Milky Way. There are, indeed, black holes in every galaxy, as you explained, which Semjase and Ptaah already said, but in addition to these, there are still the “black wanderers,” as you call those kinds of black holes that drift through the cosmos. Ptaah also said that in this regard, there would be two types, precisely the black holes that drift wildly through the Universe and then the others that are galaxy-bound and, thus, draw a certain course in or through a galaxy and its surroundings. And all black holes have an attractive force that depends on size and that reaches up to hundreds or even millions of light years away. And here, I would now like to ask if also with or in our galaxy, such a “wandering black hole” exists, a “galaxy-wandering black hole,” so to speak, if I may name this thing in such a way?
Quetzal:
14. That is a good designation, which I will include in my vocabulary.
15. Yes, there actually is such a “black wanderer” or “wandering black hole” in the realm of your galaxy.
16. Nevertheless, it is a smaller structure than what the actual central black hole of the Milky Way is.
17. But still, it is very remarkable and draws an extensive course through the galaxy, and to be sure, at around 6,400 light years of distance from the actual center of the Milky Way.
18. In addition to this “black wanderer,” there are still some other wandering black holes in the nearer and further surroundings of the galaxy, one of which, from time to time, also exerts a determining influence on the planet Venus of the SOL system."
Matthew |
Norm
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Post Number: 311
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2022 - 06:57 pm: |
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Does anyone remember where Billy talks about male & female relationships and about people who stay single are cowards? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3595
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2022 - 08:14 pm: |
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OM Kanon 32
1512. Ledig sein heisst feige sein.
1512: To be single is to be a coward. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1100
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2022 - 09:03 pm: |
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I'm a coward according to OM Kanon 32! I had a couple of girlfriends when I was in my 20s and through them I learned I would be happier staying single which I have done ever since. I'm 55 now. So because I choose the less stressful life I am a coward and I get that. Thanks for the advice Kanon but I'm staying single.  |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3596
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 06:54 am: |
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Hugo,
You might want to consider what is stated in the Talmud:
"Some do not enter into the bond of (marriage) because from the time of their birth they are without the skill for it (without the talent for it, incapable of it); some do not enter into the bond (marriage) because other human beings have made them unsuitable for it; and some do not enter into the bond (marriage) because they renounce it for the sake of the spiritual (consciousness-based) power, and some do not enter because they are enforced to do so or because they have fallen into an illness..."
Not all the Plejaren are married.... |
Matthew
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 07:10 am: |
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I'm grateful to Norm for his question or I could have gone through life blissfully unaware that being single is not positive. Yeh, thanks bloody Norm Lol. Being single is easier but not as satisfying as with a partner, except for when the partner is deceitful, controlling, cheating or abusive - then it's like riding a wild horse standing up - fun but dangerous and I think I may have fallen down too many times. It may be time to get back up. Single ladies (or women with open relationships and cuckolded men who you can be honest with), my email is mattknight@protonmail.ch?
Matthew |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 264
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 07:12 am: |
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Hugo,
A poor choice of words my friend for just a simple but problematic choice. The ether's her carry no judgment for the (what is it that we call it?) spirit form. Only as Scott says above do we willingly fall into an illusion of illness because society forces us into accepting that term!
Mat
bronzedesk
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1427
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 07:53 am: |
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When using emails or even the FIGU Blog, often it is difficult to express one’s words due to the lack of body language and voice inflections (variations). We all know Billy’s sense of humor, IMO when Billy said in, “OM Kanon 32:
1512: To be single is to be a coward.
1512: Ledig sein heisst feige sein.
This statement was in jest (joke). An old saying, “The knife cuts both ways”. In other words, it can have two opposite effects, or can have both good and bad effects. Both the married and unmarried have pros and cons.
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3597
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 10:18 am: |
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Hello,
This is in regards to the origins of the OM:
"10 May 1983-1 May 1984 and 21 May 1984-9 October 1984. Billy writes the Book of Books, his greatest work to date, the Book OM. It contains 77 finished Canons with a total of 10,136 verses; until May 1, 1984 there were 42 Canons with a total of 7616 verses. The verses of each individual canon are divided in their total number by the number 7. Parts of the book OM were written in telepathic cooperation with JHWH Ptaah of the Pleiarens.
Ptaah telepathically transmitted to Billy all those parts of the book OM that still agree with the original OM first written by Henok. Apart from the two Canons which Billy wrote down after the words of Semjase and those Canons in which Billy brought the old and oldest wisdom sayings back into their original and correct form, all other teachings, wisdom sayings, explanations, interpretations etc. etc. originate from him himself." |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1455
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 10:21 am: |
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I find the OM to require a broad form of thinking, like solving a mystery. The OM, in my opinion, cannot be taken literally in some or many cases.
The OM quoted refers to hesitation, which is a violation of the law of action, which is a branch of the law of evolution.
Fear, hesitation, procrastination, etc. are a form of cowardice (the polar opposite of courage).
If one wants to be in a relationship, but never makes the effort to meet and socialize, perhaps due to shyness or bashfulness, is cultivating a form of cowardice within their character and personality.
This factor is addressed in the book "Might Of The Thoughts" and can be changed.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Reen71b
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 01:42 pm: |
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I have chosen to (but still open to whatever happens) stay single. I have noticed (in America at least) that there is a serious lack of maturity, mentally & emotionally, in all ages with people (For me it's men.) Over time, I seem to have less patience for the immaturity of grown adults and don't want to introduce that into my personal life. But, I am not completely closed off. I'm 50 years old and enjoy my alone time very much.
Maureen
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 02:22 pm: |
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OM Kanon 32:1512: To be single is to be a coward.
This passage from OM is best understood in the context of the overarching Creational Teachings and its' embedded balance of positive and negative energies. There are many sayings found in both OM and other creational writings extolling the benefits of a blissful partnership and therefore, it is nothing to be afraid of. The space between distance and closeness of the two genders is filled with tense energy, at first unknown and foreign to both men and women and the reason for the failures of partnership are the reasons for failure of adequate communication, respect and the need for occasional distancing.
Some good advice about successful partnering is found in Billy's book, Mein Vermaechtnis: Mensch der Erde, ich wuensche dir… "My Legacy: Human of the Earth, I wish you..."
A good balance between individuals, especially in regard to partnership, requires a reasonable and fair practice of distance and closeness. In this respect it is important to adhere to rules of understanding and consideration. It is therefore important that communication be open and to explain one’s current state and need for distance or intimacy in order to maintain one’s personal balance, peace and respite in order to preserve a harmonious relationship between the partners.
Dear Earth Being, be aware that a relationship between human beings cannot be freely accomplished in a peaceful, loving, harmonious and idyllic manner if you do not commit to togetherness and clear communication. Nothing can be gained when human values are not upheld. That means that you must rely on your own positive values and that you treat the other person according to their innermost self and to what they might outwardly evolve into being, if they really try—to be a Mensch.
Realize, Human of the Earth, you are improving your life and that of others when you are granting everyone the space and tolerance they require and treat them fairly through the use of communication in the pursuit of unity and harmony. Be aware however, that not everything you desire for yourself and from others can be attained even though you and they occasionally believe to be entitled to. Neither you nor anyone else can ever bargain for true love as it emerges in a sympathetic union.
True love is and remains a constant and unifying treasure that is priceless and cannot be bought. True love can only be created by you at your innermost core—and this love cannot be sold, it can only be bestowed as a gift to your partner, in the hope that it may also stir similar feelings in them and that they too may find and generate pure love, so that something miraculous is being created.
These are paraphrased passages - not translations and it is imperative that one reads the book in the original German for full preciseness.
Regards
Bob |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1101
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2022 - 02:38 pm: |
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Scott,
Thanks for pointing out that passage from the Talmud to me! That makes me feel better now for choosing the single life. I never thought there was anything wrong with me choosing the single life until I read that passage you posted from the Canon saying - "To be single is to be a coward". And upon reflecting it I realized my choice in staying single was a form of cowardness. So I had feelings of guilt until you pointed out that passage from the Talmud.
Bronzedesk,
I'm not sure I follow you correctly but yes I may have an illness behind relationships but I really don't know. But what I do know is that I had a bad experience with two girlfriends that caused me to have a lasting desire to stay single choosing the freer and less stressful life. |
Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 06-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2022 - 04:14 pm: |
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Are there any known examples of single plejaren and their reasons that anyone might be aware of? |
Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2022 - 02:19 am: |
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In my opinion the OM Kanon 32 shouldn't be taken too literally, as in pertaining to personal romantic relationships between fellow human beings and withdrawing from them.
The way I understand it, is that the phrase: "To be single is to be a coward" refers to a complete shying-away from life and one's own evolution. To be single in this context would mean that a person has no will to be involved or interact with his/her inner and outer life. Thus he/she shies away from life and is therefore a coward.
Naturally in an active life relationships between human beings form, and it is crucial for one's own evolution. These relationships don't always have to be romantic in nature, and there is also much to learn from normal friendships and acquaintanceships. A willed lack of interaction leads to idleness, which leads to wasting away and cowardly shying away from life. So in my view the OM Kanon 32: "To be single is to be a coward" could also be understood as: "To be idle is to be a coward".
Salome,
Niko |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2022 - 05:49 pm: |
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Hi, Niko. I would say those are all fair assessments. Let's look at the context of the passage in OM, Kanon 32:
1511. Je langer der Mensch ledig bleibt, je liederlicher wird er.
1511. The longer the Mensch remains single, the more dissolute they become.
1512. Ledig sein heisst feige sein.
1512: To be single is to be a coward.
1513. Wer ledig bleibt verfehlt die Zeit.
1513. Those who remain single miss the time.
1514. Wer sich bestimmt, ledig zu sein, der wird zum Eremiten.
1514. Anyone who decides to be single becomes a hermit.
Line 1513, with its' phrasing 'miss the time' has a similar tone, Niko, to your comment, "To be idle is to be a coward". Throughout the teaching, there is much emphasis on Ziel and being an active co-creator in Creation, and not an idle observer. Let's get on with it, then.
If we want to invite comparisons to the Plejaren, they decide to 'partner up' much later in life, in their 60s and 70s, to focus more on personal growth to make a wiser choice. Yet, we would hardly characterize them as being a coward nor would we consider them a 'hermit' as in line 1514. But then, they also have much longer lifespans. And when Semjase's husband was lost in space and she chose to remain single, there are no judgements. Perhaps many of us have also had previous lives with extended lifespans and subconscious impulsing affecting our time frames.
My point being, I think this is one of those type of passages that will speak to you differently depending on what stage in life you are at. And there may indeed be meanings at different levels. Everyone is still the smith of their own life.
Bob |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2022 - 12:53 am: |
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Can this phrase simply mean isolation from society? |
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