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Author Message Norm Posted on Friday, March 09, 2001 - 09:13 am:        Petition for a 2001 Open U.S.Congressional Hearing on Modern UFO Evidence. Please Sign http://www.paradigmclock.com/petition.htm Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2001 - 10:00 pm:        >What do you think about the accuracy regarding the event >outlines provided by the comic Godfathers? > >I should do the verification by myself but would like to listen >to your comments. > >Regards > >Savio Started in Forum: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1447.html?994826526 The accuracy is high. However, the in between details are missing from official history. I suppose that you are wondering how can this Vatican, so beloved by many followers, turned out to be such an abomination. Its important to read several body of materials. (To begin, you can type keywords into search engines.) The plans of the conspirators and co-conspirators are so segmented and deep, it is difficult to pinpoint events and appropriate them, some times. The Comics: Godfather, etc. The comic series is written around the real character Dr. Alberto Rivera of Spain. He was schooled by priests and later joined the Catholic priesthood. He eventually became a Jesuit and was introduced to the German cardinal, Augustin Bea who told him many stories about world events. He began noticing strange things as he went further into the priesthood. He said that he and other young Jesuits were shown the Vatican vast underground libraries that covered miles. He said thousands of documents are there on many things, from ancient history, spiritual methods (Alberto call it Satanic), to advance technology. He said that many of the priests want to get out, but are afraid. It appears that Alberto was influenced by Protestants and started to look at his religion differently. Eventually, this presents a problem. When Alberto began to rebell (refuse carrying out Vatican orders), he was sent to an unnamed place in Barcelona Spain run by the Vatican. There, he was put in/attached to a pain amplifier and shocked several times. Eventually, he was released. The priest who escorted him, told him to go far away and don’t ever come back. He told Alberto that he believe something special enlightened him and to pray for him (the priest) and should never write him (the priest). So, the Vatican, once it became a powerful force, lost whatever sincere objectives it had had. The main problem for the Vatican are little factions of power. When possible, the Vatican allied with them, and eventually double-cross them. Was the Vatican involved in the NAZI party, Communism, etc.? Officially, no. Our history does not support that. The Vatican masquerades as a religious icon and is written as such in official news circles. The Russian Patriarch mentioned in Godfathers belong to a native Russian secret society called “Skoptsi.” Most of the Catholic priests are sexually over intoxicated. What you did not read in Godfathers is that the Catholic Nuns who get pregnant by priests, abort their fetuses. The native Skoptsi group in Russia solved that problem long ago. Young men are given the option to procreate offsprings, and then they are finished, their testicles are removed to alt their sex-drive. They are then officially a Skoptsi. The Women who join their order undergo special modifications. By this radical approach, the Skoptsi has lost interest in the flesh and spend their time on virtues and positiveness. For it was they who spent 60 bloodshed years killing off the Bolsheviks in high places until they had total control of their country again. It was they who dismantled the USSR and rebelled against communism. It was they who united Germany. Official history has nothing to verify this. They know, that the time is approaching when the world will call on them for help to fight against dark forces. And they have told their enemy, we want no part of your One World Government! In fact, we are going to dismantle it for you! Officially, the history books do not tell us that it was Edmond Rothschild of France who influenced the British Royal family and politicians regarding Palestine. Edmond, after Herzl died, said: Yes. Herzl was right. We need to create a state colony in Palestine. Edmond Rothschild money did that. He was called by Palestine Jews at the time “King of the Jews.” The Rothschilds were one of the emerging little-powers that derailed the Vatican plans for Palestine. And the Vatican never forgets. The Israelis today chastise the Pope for past activities: the death camps the German Jews were in, etc, claiming that the Vatican knew and could stop the extermination. The Israelis today demand an apology. Again, no official text exists to link the Vatican to the Israeli claim, but this does not mean that it did not happen. Here in America, the Rothschilds and the Vatican run banks, one is called the Bank of America, but this is not mentioned no where in their official documents. (And there are many other little-powers out to get the Rothschilds. Segments of Israelis will question the Rockefellers, but not the politics of the Rothschilds. No reason to knock their bread and butter. So many Israelis who know better are caught in between.) Rome had three African popes, but no were in the official history text this is mentioned. Victor (189-203 A.D.), Melchiades or Miltiades (311-314 A.D.) and Gelasius (492-496 A.D.). Yet, in 1492, Spain and Portugal went to the Pope, the leading mediator at the time, and was told to start wars in both the east and west. Before departure, the then Pope authorized to reduce to servitude all infidel people. The slave trade was sanctioned, and Europeans were told that they should not feel guilty, because the people were infidels and outside God’s grace. “England went into the slave trade with a vengeance”; trafficking human flesh with a ship under the command of Captain Hawkins named “The Good Ship Jesus.” The ship’s court-of-arms was two Africans bound back to back with arms tied. The corrupted Roman Christians saw no contradictions with being in the slave trade. The Vatican were having problems with the little-power Moors and by the 17th century, the end of the Renaissance, the Moors were devastated. King George III (1738-1820), married the German-born Moorish Charlotte Sophie, the Queen of England. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/secret/famous/royalfamily.html Italian Medici: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/secret/famous/emblem.html When Japan became an emerging force, another little-power, American Rockefeller launch a propaganda campaign to lure the Japanese military into war with America. The Japanese were seen as stupid, lack high intelligence, etc. America nuke Japan, bombed the country into the stone age. Rockefeller then went in and gave the Japanese his demands. They took it. One was to abolish their military and let America protect them. Japan became a bright and shining star under Rockefeller leadership, with high technology, etc. Suddenly, a campaign was launched to uplift the Japanese as brilliant, smart, etc. Probably the most prided Rockefeller creation was SONY. It was named after his New York oil company--S.tandard O.il of N.ew Y.ork. Today, the Japanese are becoming anti-American and many do not know why, and the official media is not saying. Etc... Many scholars and laymen today support the Bell curve idea, but they fail to understand that when you degenerate a group and then use science to verify intelligence, legitimizing the findings, and teach it as fact, creates the scenario for some future agenda. These agenda makers are well educated, articular and tailored to create a credible human vehicle. And they will look in your face and laugh in amusement as if you are crazy. Telling you that there is no official documents to support your claims, and that it is pure coincidence and speculation. Anthony Michael Horn Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2001 - 10:44 pm:        Pretty wild stuff but I do remember reading (in early FIGU translations) that the Plejarans thought the Vatican was the most negative place on Earth, and they touched a bit on the intrigues and treacheries of the Popes , etc. I remember reading a prophecy that when Israel and the Vatican entered into some kind of a pact it would be a major indicator of serious worldwide trouble, perhaps leading to WW III. I also rememeber that some type of pact was indeed entered into by them only a few years or so ago. Michael Savio Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 09:02 am:        Hi Anthony Thanks for your comments and information! The traditional/well known story about the origin of the name SONY was: selected by its late founder; the version regarding the Standard Oil of New York is really stunning! Regards Savio Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 10:49 am:        >Lingering uncertainty concerning the outcome of the current Presidential >election stimulated the recall of a comment from Randolph Winters' book >"The Pleiadian Mission." Mr. Winters made the comment that >"President Clinton may well be the last president elected in our normal >manner." This comment appears under the section of Pleiadian Prophecy. > >Long ago I discounted this so-called prophecy as hogwash, but events >of the day may prove otherwise. Does anyone know if this prophecy >can truly be attributed to the Pleiadians? > >Best regards, > >Michael Davo Hi, Among some FIGU supporters, Winters’ book is pure nonsense. Winters’ quote can be found in the “Future Visions and Pleiadian Prophecy” chapter under the subtitle “President Reagan” page 218. A more insightful summary can be read in “Conversations With Nostradamus Vol. One” by Dolores Cannon. Chapter: “The Present Time”; Century V11-41. Anthony Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:18 am:        >Then we have this Globalist Movement by the Worlds Governments >that are pushing a Capitalist/Socialist New World Order system on the >world. I am politically lost. I hope Billy will share his Ideas on >Politics with us. Hi Norm, In Contact #251, Meier said that we will get a New Order system that solves many of our problems inexpensively. Anthony Hall: This New Order system is not a One World Government, but a Multipolar World Government that is broken up into councils or unions. Example: The European Union, The Atlantic Union, The Union of Middle-Eastern States, The Council of Africa, The Council of Asia. Together, forming a Multi-Council/Union World Government. Their main assembly is targeted for Geneva--World of United Nations. This will be the first step for a far future One World Government integration that in the end will devolve all borders. It’s a very sound strategy. Anthony Norm Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 01:08 pm:        Anthony Hall, That doesn't mean its a benevolent "New Order system". Plus Billy deliberately never said when. It could be thousands of years from now. I am talking about the current New World Order who are running the economic and financial systems of the world. That have been ruining this planet for aleast the last few hundred years, maybe more. These organizations currently calling themselves. Trilateral Commission Council on Foreign Relations Bilderberg - http://www.bilderberg.org/ U.S.Federal Reserve World Bank United Nations Oil Cartels etc. etc. etc. are greedy and destructive! We haven't elected a U.S.President in a long time. Both Parties, Democrat & Republican, are controlled by the "Special-Interests",that choose the final two candidates, that we, then get to choose from. I don't really consider that a choice. Plus they, the two Parties, in cahoots with the News Corporations convince the people, that other political parties and candidates don't have a chance to win the election. The status quo stays the same as President's come and go. If I am correct Billy says Dolores Cannon is pure nonsense also. Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:55 pm:        >Anthony Hall, That doesn't mean its a benevolent "New Order system". >Plus Billy deliberately never said when. It could be thousands of years >from now. I am talking about the current New World Order who are >running the economic and financial systems of the world. That have >been ruining this planet for aleast the last few hundred years, maybe >more. These organizations currently calling themselves. All the conspiracy books have many believing that only a One World Government is being forged. Up until the mid-1970s, this was true. After, the propaganda became false. Likely, no were else will you read this: There are now two new orders forging: One World and a Multi-World. Dismantling the One World will result in WWIII. After, the Multi-World government will come in. Dialogue is already taking place about an unavoidable war between 2027-2030 AD. >Trilateral Commission Became two-tear. >Council on Foreign Relations Became two-tear. >Bilderberg - http://www.bilderberg.org/ Became two-tear. Is being dismantled. >U.S.Federal Reserve Multi-World is in the stage of destroying it. This will collapse the US economy. It is through the Federal Reserve that the One World military machine is financed. >World Bank Multi-World is in the stage of destroying it. The One-World is using the World Bank to takeover Third World countries. Since most of the Third World countries cannot payoff their loans, the World Bank says that they can give up their wilderness land as payment. >United Nations Multi-World supporters have the advantage. They are in stages of reforming the U.N. into something else. >Oil Cartels etc. >etc. etc. >are greedy and destructive! >We haven't elected a U.S.President in a long time. Both Parties, Democrat & > Republican, are controlled by the "Special-Interests",that choose the final two > candidates, that we, then get to choose from. I don't really consider that a > choice. Plus they, the two Parties, in cahoots with the News Corporations convince > the people, that other political parties and candidates don't have a chance to win > the election. The status quo stays the same as President's come and go. The power-base was split in America in the late 1970s. Before the split, the Rockefellers had control of who got elected. After the Russian Skopts unseat the Bolsheviks, they gave the others no time to immigrate. The country that adsorbed most of the Russian Bolsheviks was AMERICA! England was second. Rockefeller already had a secret alliance with the Bolsheviks and felt that he could unseat the Skopts by pulling them into a nuclear war and make further headway over the Rothschilds to forge a One World Government. With this in mind, he welcomed the immigrant Bolsheviks into America and gave them lofty positions in the Pentagon, banking, Government, etc. Henry Kissenger, Rockefeller good friend, his right hand man, was shuttling back and forth to England secretly to meet with the Rothschilds. Over a span of time, Kissenger began to share secrets about the Rockefeller with Rothschilds. The Rothschilds already had a secret relationship with the Russian Bolsheviks and passed on information given by Kissenger. By the late 1970s, the Rothschilds signal the American-Russian Bolsheviks to unseat the Rockefeller dynasty in a coup. The remaining members of the family was shocked, and was badly injured. Reagan came to power, but the Rockefellers were too weak to defend themselves from the Russian Bolsheviks, causing the Bolsheviks to dictate Reagan policies for some time. The Bolsheviks were giving Reagan, the cowboy president, hardline agendas left and right. Reagan became anti-Russian, a Cold-war monger, etc. But what Reagan did not know was, the old Soviet machine he was fighting against had already left Russia and was now in America. The American Bolsheviks were now busy consolidating the power that they had partly ripped from the Rockefellers. In the power struggle, the Bolsheviks had a good grip over the Pentagon and military. They were now busy hording weapons for a future world war with the Skopts of Russia. Rockefeller and his team of agents made a secret flight to Russia, urgently requesting a meeting with the new rulers in the Kremlin. Rockefeller: The Bolshevik demons are loose in America and are planning war with you. We can’t stop them and we have come to you for urgent help! Out of this meeting came a loose-alliance. Now, the once power hungry Rockefeller were now trying to stop nuclear war! This was the first test in their East and West alliance. The Bolsheviks propose to Reagan the Star Wars idea, and had him sell it to the American public. The missile and exotic shield was to protect most of the U.S. territory in the nuclear war that American Bolsheviks had planned. Rockefeller aids got to Reagan and told him to stop his handline agendas, for he is pulling America into a world war! Reagan was now briefed and after, he stood up to his Bolsheviks aids: I am not pursuing your hardline agendas anymore. Days later, Reagan was shot and have never been the same person. His son Ron Reagan, to this day, curse the Republicans. The new-Rockefellers were successful in stopping the Star Wars plan and nuclear war. They were now hit with another wave of attacks. The Bolsheviks were bankrupting savings and loan banks belonging to the Rockefellers. Etc. Meier was told that the groundwork laid by the Reagan Administration and American political forces will bring Revelation prophecies to past. He was also told that American political forces were behind the Jim Jones massacre in Jonestown Guyana. What Meier and his Plejaran friend conjecture was 100% accurate! The Plejaran assessment in 1995 based on current thought patterns and events was that the looming danger of the Third World War was neutralized, and that the prophecies regarding the event had lost their meaning. Ptaah attributed the posture of change to the efforts of Russia’s Mikhail Gorbachev. Gorbachev would later criticize America (its rogue-faction) for its “superiority complex” and that if the 21st century became known as the second “American Century,” the rest of the world would suffer. He urged the United States to engage in a partnership instead of trying to carve out a piece of the world for itself. Madeleine Albright, the U.S. Secretary of State, said: The United States unique situation (the rogue-faction world domination agenda) gave it the right to use military force unilaterally (we don’t have to dialogue with you, we do whatever we wish), even if other countries object. Gorbachev responded: “I don’t think the world will accept this approach.” Subtlety hinting that the opposing-faction will fight against such an agenda. Contact 246--Ptaah: Everything has transpired according to the prophecies, which state that peace will emanate from Russia. MOSCOW (AFP) reported on June 28, 2001 that KGB spies prevented World War III from erupting. British KGB officer, George Blake, along with Soviet agents Gordon Lonsdale and the American couple known as Peter and Helen Kroger helped avert the war. They supplied the Soviets with intelligence information enabling them to achieve a military balance with the West. Blake wrote his chronicles in a volume of memoirs published in 1990, entitled “No Other Choice”, followed with a book titled “Letters from Her Majesty’s Prison”. The “sleeping prophet” Edgar Cayce said in one of his trances: “The world will gain greater hope from Russia’s development. To this end, individuals and groups who have closer ties with Russia can achieve step-by-step changes and the ultimate finalization of regulatory terms for world dominion.” Lyndon LaRouche, in a article printed in The Moscow Times by Igor Semenenko, said: Russia is the only hope for global civilization. If the Vatican put their full support behind Israel, the factions will be: Vatican Rothschilds-Bolsheviks-Zionists. Maybe the latter three believe that they can double-cross the Vatican eventually. >If I am correct Billy says Dolores Cannon is pure nonsense also. Many do believe that and that is their right. Anthony Norm Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:37 pm:        I've heard before that there was more than one faction v'ying for World Government. The Dr. Peter Beter tapes of the 70's, which your info seems to mirror. The main problem with Dr.Peter Beter for me and Dr. John Coleman who I sent copies of Dr. Beters tapes too, and talked to him about it, was this idea of a Robotoid. Dr. Beter said Jimmy Carter was a robotoid/copy not the same guy we see now. Anyway, for all I know Dr. Beter could be dead on, but there are tons of theories out there. The one I want to hear the most, is Billy & the Plejarens, I hope we will get that someday. Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 05:53 pm:        >I've heard before that there was more than one faction v'ying for World >Government. The Dr. Peter Beter tapes of the 70's, which your info seems to >mirror. The main problem with Dr.Peter Beter for me and Dr. John Coleman who I >sent copies of Dr. Beters tapes too, and talked to him about it, was this idea of a >Robotoid. Dr. Beter said Jimmy Carter was a robotoid/copy not the same guy we >see now. Anyway, for all I know Dr. Beter could be dead on, but there are tons of >theories out there. The one I want to hear the most, is Billy & the Plejarens, I >hope we will get that someday. Yes. I have listened to some of the Beter tapes. But his information stopped in the early 1980s. Years after, I came in contact with one of his intelligence friend. And he answered a few questions, and said that Beter’s wife Lilly was very proud of what they did together. Beter went to a lot of parties given by wealthy people. They would rent out sections of Studio54 and groups would form talking about politics. Often, it was at these little gatherings that information were shared. Before Germany was reunified, Beter’s intelligence told him that the Skopts told Germany that they would not interfere in reunification. Today, both have formed a tight alliance. There were many rumors regarding Beter’s death and his intelligence friend told me that the incident was a natural occurrence. Coleman’s work mostly mirror his experience in MI6. Some of his writings are based on old information. With Jimmy Carter, you have to get old videos of him as president. The 1970s Carter features were more refined. Years ago on NBC Katie Curic was interviewing Carter on his then recent book about aging, and she said: Gosh, what are you doing to stay so young? Kissinger published a book last year, the title was something like 50 years of Renewal. Coleman mentioned the Cosmospheres is a sentence. While Beter hinted at bits and pieces. So far, I maybe the only one who know in detail what a Cosmosphere look like and can back track events into the 1940s regarding there development. When Clinton was in his second term as President, there were rumors in the White House press room about a Clinton double. Some months later, a similar rumor surfaced in Russia regarding Yeltsin. Robotoids have improved greatly. Especially their brain programming. Years later, Russia announced to the world on April 15, 2001 the creation of an artificial human brain, but the West ignored the story. A scientist friend of one of Beter’s friend said he does not believe that the Russian scientists created an artificial human brain. Basically, he discounted the claims. Anthony Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 06:03 pm:        Hi Norm, John Coleman call the Bolsheviks "Eastern Europeans". Anthony Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 06:14 pm:        Hi Norm, After the nuclear war was deterred, Beter said that he did not felt the need to continue the tapes and halt the series. He continued with his banking business and was involved in buying millions in gold from Buckingham Palace for clients. Because at the time, there was talk about shifting the world economy to gold standard. Anthony Jean Pierre Lagasse Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 07:23 pm:        Hi all, Please send the following link to everybody you know... Very interesting news from Russia ! http://english.pravda.ru/ JP Anthony Hall Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 02:59 am:        Started in: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/1072.html?SundayAugust2020000558pm#POST2779 >By Scott Baxter on Monday, February 21, 2000 - 08:32 pm: >Hi George >Are you speaking of a physical mass migration from Mars to Earth? >If Im not mistaken in contact 251 their was mention of Mars becoming >uninhabitable due to Cosmic events. I believe this is due to the Destroyer >Comet passing through our system and upsetting the atmosphere of Mars. >I dont know how long ago this occurred, but it is mentioned in Contact 251 >along with information regarding the destruction of the planet Malona. A few >years ago I posed a question through a person in a study group I belonged >who in turn passed it on to Billy. The question was why did the people of >Malona knowing that what they intended to do would lead to their own >destruction, would go ahead and destroy their own planet along with >themselves and everybody else. Billys response was if I remember, was >just as the same as we are doing here, only in a different fashion through >overpopulation, envinronmental pollution etc. I thought this was an interesting >response, but true. I find these topics very interesting and especially in light of >the way we are treating this planet. Sometimes I think that certain beings that >have contributed to the demise of other planets have reincarnated here and are >continuing their same path so to speak. >Salome Scott B. Hi Scott, Contact Report #251 noted that the genetically-manipulated inhabitants from Sirius destroyed the planet Malona. But, you will be shocked! to know who they were fighting with! The problem that resulted in the destruction of Malona was a struggle for power. And the Malonians did not want to give that power of government to the new colonizers. Read Message From the Pleiades Vol Meier/Stevens; Contact Report #70; Read from middle-to-bottom of page 253, and from top-to-middle of page 254. Anthony Scott B. Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 10:26 pm:        Hello Anthony Thanks for the information. I will dig out my books and look for the passages you mentioned. Salome Scott Anthony Hall Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 10:28 pm:        Hi All, The Shocking Menace Of Satellite Surveillance By John Fleming in The United States http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/14/10131.html ---------------- FIGU Bulletin English Edition Newsletter Published Periodically Vol. 1 No. 2 German printing: April 1995 English printing: November 1995 MONITORING SYSTEMS ... “With their DSP monitoring system, America has taken the first step toward the horrifying, futuristic vision of total control over every human being on Earth. This vision signifies that terrestrials will soon be unable to take even a single step without being observed and controlled by an all-inclusive monitoring system, which would eventually entail the implanting of a coded chip into every person. The possibility then arises that an individual will be completely controlled and, ultimately, will always be observed and monitored; even a person's most private and intimate activities will be observed. The vision also implies that the European monitoring headquarters will be located in Brussels, Belgium, and managed and directed by the European Union (Europäische Union) as it is called today. The undisclosed implication is that a form of dictatorship will be establishedthat results in the complete surveillance of every citizen --- a horrible vision, which is increasingly becoming apparent as a reality to anyone observing the world with open eyes. Likewise, this terrifying vision foreshadows the 'New World Order' which, from ancient times onward, was linked to prophecies about an 'animal with the number 666' exerting immense power. I intend to elaborate more extensively, in justifiable form, in the FIGU Newsletter on this prophecy and vision, along with many other important matters of which Man on Earth should be apprised.” Anthony Anthony Hall Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 10:49 pm:        Hi All, Message from the Pleadies Vol 2 Meier/Stevens; page 164: Semjase: “...this organization has already become effective. Yet its name will still change from which the words W U V will rise.” Meier: “...About two to three years ago, I found then, astonishing, as well a book by a certain Cheiro, in which the same numbers were called. I don’t know how many have access to “Cheiro’s World Predictions” book, if not, I decide to summarize and quote some of his visions. Although “Cheiro’s World Predictions” was published in 1928, some of his commentaries are still relevant. Cheiro noted “Saturn as Lord of the Sign of Aquarius in its bearing on the future of Russia and her relation to the role she will be called upon to play in the Destiny of Nations.” Russia, he said, was ruled by the planet Saturn, also known as “the seven creative planets” of the Earth’s system, and that this symbolism was very important. The day will come when Russia’s hardship and the spilling of their people’s blood would end, and from this tribulation would pour water that will make “a new heaven and a new Earth,” said Cheiro. The three countries that would be charmed by the rays of the Aquarian Age, he said, was Russia, China and India. The Age of Aquarius, the Water Bearer, would bring a level of stability, “pouring out water on the Earth that in due course it may bring forth seed time and harvest, that men may sow and men may reap, that the eternal purpose of Creation may in the end be carried out.” A new idea of Government from Russia will spread slowly throughout the Aquarian Age that will revolutionize Europe, Asia, Middle-East, etc, and that Russia would become a mighty Power in the history of modern civilization. This age would also further elevate women to important positions dominated by men, according to Cheiro. The United States, said Cheiro, represented the number thirteen. He maintains that the men who were entrusted to create the Heraldic emblems of this country, had a deep understanding of Occultism and Astrology. “The number 13 represents a New Age or a new order of things,” and is expressed in the motto of the Great Seal of the United States “Novus Ordo Seclorum,” he said. A country that came into existence after dissatisfaction with the British. Cheiro: “In some ancient writings it is said: ‘He who understands the Number 13 will be given power and dominion.’ ... It is symbolized by the picture of a Skeleton, or Death with a scythe reaping down men. It is a Number of upheaval, destruction and re-creation. It is a symbol of Power which, if wrongly used, will weak destruction upon itself. It is a number of warning if it becomes a compound number in one’s calculation.” (Anthony Hall: If the founders of the United Sates were sincere in their vision, something very destructive and conspiratorial later deterred their vision.) He foresaw the United Sates power and influence, and that it would be closely allied with the Government in Palestine (Israel); and would play an influential role in the opening up and development of Palestine. His forecasting of the prophesied Revelation 666 stated that the number had to do with the “materiality” of man. (Anthony Hall: An indication that man would be caught up in selfish external pursuits that would eventually dissipate in the Aquarian Age of philosophy and wisdom. Their in nothing mysterious or satanic about the number. 666 represents a time in evolution when the negative aspect of man prevails for a time. This age is necessary when man refuses to pursue positiveness for the greater good.) After the Great Armageddon, we “will completely revolutionize our present ideas of nations, kingdoms and republics, and the emerging system of government “will radiate laws of life and humanity to the entire world.” And “the uplifting of the entire human race and the fulfillment of the Divine Design whose ultimate purpose is the perfection of all.” (Anthony Hall: This is just a small bit. Some of his predictions are stunning!) blerim Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 11:33 am:        hello hall perhaps you know something about atlantis-troia in the kontakt notes. thanks a lot for your answer Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 10:47 am:        Hi Blerim, What is "troia"? Anthony Norm Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 01:47 pm:        We're On Our Way To Authoritarianism! http://www.sightings.com/general11/way.htm Norm Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 01:58 pm:        Anthony Hall, Since that book was written in 1928. Are you sure that Cheiro is not talking about Communism in Russia? Alot of people in those days were praising Socialism & Communism as the next great movement. Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 03:52 pm:        Hi Norm, >Since that book was written in 1928. Are you sure that Cheiro is not talking >about Communism in Russia? Alot of people in those days were praising >Socialism & Communism as the next great movement. When the book was published, Communism had already befallen Russia by the Bolshevik 1917 Revolution. Cheiro’s World Predictions; Page 30: “The day will come when the Russian waste of blood--the blood she has pour out like water--will make ‘a new heaven and a new Earth.’ THE DAY OF RUSSIA HAS NOT YET COME!” Cheiro’s World Predictions; Page 31: “A great leader of men will about this time appear. (He gave 2150 AD. He also goes into some astrology stuff to which I am untalented. Remove the 1 from that year-date and the 2050 AD figure becomes interesting.) ...This leader will unquestionably...dominate Russia. A new idea of Government will little by little spread from this country...” The people who started the “Multi-World” movement are the Skopts of Russia. And they have made alliances/partnerships along the way with France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, etc. Cheiro did give a few lines about Communism. He said the Bolsheviks would also backed insurrection in China. Anthony Norm Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 04:19 pm:        Anthony Hall, I understand that the Bolshevik Revolution took place in 1917, what I am saying is in the 20's and '30s there was a large liberal left-wing movement in the United States and abroad that promoted the New Soviet system. Norm Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 04:29 pm:        Anthony Hall, One more thing, didn't Billy say that Cheiro was a valid Seer? Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 05:24 pm:        Hi Norm, >I understand that the Bolshevik Revolution took >place in 1917, what I am saying is in the 20's >and '30s there was a large liberal left-wing >movement in the United States and abroad that >promoted the New Soviet system. Understood. The possibility exists. Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 05:34 pm:        Hi Norm, >We're On Our Way To Authoritarianism! Yes. The Bolsheviks are very serious. They must clamp down on freedom at home to prevent insurrection. Globalism: Is a One-World expression. Conservatism: Is a One-World expression. In America, it will be the Western version of Bolshevism. When Bush jr came to power it was through the Bolshevik Christian Fundamentalists alliance=Conservatism. The Corporate Socialist Liberal opposition (The Rockefellers) are fighting with the Pentagon-Bolshevik State Socialist Conservatives. The Christian element made the expression “Compassionate Conservatives” less threatening. Partnership: Is a Multi-World expression. Hi Mario, >Luckily enough, the USA has not commited any atrocity in the past years. >Great civilization. You will be surprised with what the American Hardliners are doing in other countries. They use HUMAN RIGHTS as a WEAPON. Three American-Bolshevik emissaries in Russia are: Boris Berezovsky (oligarch), Boris Gusinsky (oligarch) and Andrei Babitsky (NTV reporter). Boris Berezovsky owns OTV televison. Boris Gusinsky own NTV television. Gusinsky NTV station was taken over and the American press went wild saying: Putin is cracking down on Freedom of Press in Russia. These two men, especially, Gusinsky were using the Russian air waves as a weapon of war, to stir up segmented uprising in Russia. Gusinsky agenda involved American-style television programming--eye candy, glamour, opulence, and their programming was very bias toward the Russian government. Gusinsky told the staff that it represents “freedom of the press.” Berezovsky, meanwhile was using an old Bolshevik weapon called “Solidarity”. This type of movement-war is launched in industrial areas. Berezovsky targeted the region of Irkutsk in Russia, a strong industrial town. Misleading the governor of Irkutsk, Boris Govorin, Berezovsky began financing a Solidarity movement in Krasnoyarsky among the workers. The danger was realized, and the fallable Russians had to be warned quickly that if they fell under the spell of Russian Bolshevik supporters, the consequences would be deadly! And the consequences in Irkutsk were deadly. What happened, I can not say. Berezovsky had to resign from the Duma, because he knew that he was involved in American intrigues against Russia. Reference: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/i/AP-Russia-Berezovsky.html July 17, 2000 Berezovsky To Resign From Duma By The Associated Press; MOSCOW (AP) ``Berezovsky is demonstrating cooperative SOLIDARITY with other businessmen,'' said Sergei Markov, director of the Institute of Political Studies. ``He wants to be their leader, and to be their leader he has to has to be one of them.'' Reference: http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=hke/headlines/000614/world/afp/Putin_denies_politics_behind_arrest_of_critical_media_magnate.html Wednesday, June 14, 2000, MOSCOW (AFP) “Nikolai Petrov, analyst at the Carnegie Centre in Moscow, said an independent media group had no future in Russia because "there is no political opposition. ‘An independent media has no chance of surviving’ in such a political environment, he added.” Anthony Hall: Petrov means: Gusinsky Media-MOST group has no future in Russia as a disruptive force backed by the hardline faction in America, because Russia’s Christian faction (the Skopts) has “...no political opposition.” When Putin came to power, then U.S. Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, said: It will be difficult to influence Russia now. And the American press began a propaganda campaign against Putin, calling him a former KGB spy. As of the early 1970s, the KGB was run by Skopts! We Americans must remember that President Bush was an employee of the CIA. Today, the U.S. Press do not regard Russia as a democracy, because American intrigues can not do as they please. The holocaust killings in Africa is from American intrigues. The war in Chechnya is from American intrigues. The war in the Balkans is from American intrigues. China’s Falon Gong is an American intrigue. That is why American hardliners is so big on Human Rights, not that it sincerely cares, its motivation is political and has nothing to do with humanity. It is the American hardliners who are preventing the U.N. from having a backbone, because it sabotages U.N. missions and then criticize the organization. Anthony Savio Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 06:39 pm:        Hi Anthony We can see that the US is losing seats among those major world organizations as a result. The world is getting more clever, people judge by outcome not by words any more. Regards Savio Michael Horn Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 08:16 pm:        Anthony, Please explain, "China's Falon Gong is an American intrigue." Michael Anthony Hall Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 09:29 pm:        Hi Michael, >Please explain, "China's Falun Gong is an American intrigue." >Michael Many of Falun Gong’s members were innocent supporters who had reached the threshold of Chinese communist living. They wanted a way out and saw the movement as a useful tool. Falun Gong’s Western backers saw the potential if this type of movement could spread throughout China. It would create instability and the hope was that the Communist Government would collapse. Westernize, to let industry in. If this had happen, the Pacific region would have fallen to America. Hence, a large Taiwan. Communism will fall in China only when safety nets are in place to protect it from external rogue forces. And the Falun Gong movement was not the way to do it, because they lacked the combative skills to go up against external rogue forces that would just exploit them. It would lead to an American degenerative Capitalist system to milk their resources and give the rogues border advantages. Militarily and economically, it was a great loss to the West. In addition, China has issued several warnings to the United States not to motivate Falun Gong. Falun Gong will always be remembered by their American/Western backers in the name of Human Rights. It’s a innocent group, whose leader, Li Hongzhi, had no idea what he was getting into. Who, incidentally, is in exile in the United States. The Chinese government is now aware and is making slow positive changes. Communism in China will soon end and the American hardliners will be just as mad at China, like they are at Russia, because they are being kept out. Friday, 19 November, 1999, 20:18 GMT China warns US over Falun Gong: http://humanrights.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia%2Dpacific/newsid%5F517000/517024.stm Also: The leader of the Chechnya rebellion is also exiled in the United States. This is how the rogue forces work, they use innocent causes to get through the front door, into your country. ... Anthony Michael Horn Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 05:14 pm:        Hi Anthony, I don't know that Falun Gong is an American intrigue from what you wrote. That there may be many intrigues is unquestioned. I just don't think that they all can be laid at America's feet, it's actually a bit insulting to the people of the country to not give them credit for creating their own intrigues, revolutions, etc. And there's always the possibility that the whole movement simply caught on because Chi Gong (a form of which is practiced by Falun Gong practitioners) is very healthful, peaceful and stress relieving. Marry that to Taoism, Buddhism, etc. and you have an attractive respite from the realities of life under the Chinese Communists. Michael Anthony Hall Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 05:37 pm:        Hi Michael, Your views are well taken. When I say "America," it does not refer to Public America, but its Intelligence Forces who are always involved in intrigues against their opposition. Anthony Anthony Hall Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 12:01 am:        Hi Michael, The links below are current as of 7/18/01. American Intrigues in the Ukraine: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/18/10383.html American Intrigues in the Balkans: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/17/10361.html American Intrigues in Yugoslavia/Milosevic: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/18/10379.html American Intrigues in Macedonia: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/18/10445.html Anthony blerim Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 11:31 am:        hi anthony greetings from zürich ! i mean what do you know : in search of trojan war. finding the walls of troy.-schliemann of troy.(ancient civilization in the near east. Michael Horn Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 08:36 am:        Hi Anthony, Thanks for the links, though I notice that they are all from Pravda. It only goes to show that all nations/governments deal with each other, and often their own populations, through these intrigues. The bottom line to me is that part of the reason there is contact by the Plejarans is to move us along through this separational pathology to the eventual point that we realize that we are all inhabitants of the same little speck of cosmic lint. I remember that they said that the day would come when we would have to face a rather hostile ET race. Presumably being a "we" instead of a bunch of disconnected, strictly self-serving entities would be helpful. Michael Anthony Hall Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 09:18 am:        >Thanks for the links, though I notice that they are all from Pravda. It >only goes to show that all nations/governments deal with each other, >and often their own populations, through these intrigues. Hi Michael, American main stream press don’t print information like that. We in America get political entertainment news--a bunch of talking heads. Brzezinsky is in league with the Bolshevik-Rothschild gang. This man is very lethal to America. >The bottom line to me is that part of the reason there is contact by the >Plejarans is to move us along through this separational pathology to >the eventual point that we realize that we are all inhabitants of the >same little speck of cosmic lint. I remember that they said that the >day would come when we would have to face a rather hostile ET race. >Presumably being a "we" instead of a bunch of disconnected, strictly >self-serving entities would be helpful. >Michael Independent of Meier, I have the contact notes from Andromeda--one of Wendelle Stevens out of print books, and the female ET mentions this hostile ET race. From the dialogue, it sounds like leftover bad blood. She said that they visited Earth already and even lived here for awhile. She call them Zhums. Said that if the nations of Earth would unite together and go public with scientific discoveries, they could create a effect defense against the Zhums and it would result in respect from their ET neighbors. Anthony Michael Horn Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 01:48 pm:        Hi Anthony, Yes, interesting stuff. I'm not sure of course if Wendelle's stuff re Andromeda is accurate. If we aply what Billy said literally there is no one else who would be in contact with such an advanced race. Nonetheless, the ol' come together idea will ultimately prove to be a necessary one. Michael

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