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zooperson
| Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2001 - 02:48 am: |
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DEAR FORUM, CAN ANYONE CLARIFY THE E.T. POSITION ON THE SAFETY OF MICROWAVED FOOD.I SEEM TO REMEMBER READING IN SOME CONTACT NOTES THAT THEY CONSIDERED IT OK. ??????? |
   
Andrew C. Cossette
| Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 07:38 am: |
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Hello, This topic has already been covered in this forum. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette |
   
Jani Johannes Metso
| Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 08:10 am: |
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Hello, I don't know if this is the best possible posting area for this (discussion about the "red meteor"). However, perhaps the number 3 could have something to do with the W.U.V. and the 7X7 orders which are related to it. At least, and I don't very often quote biblical verses, the Revelation (Bible) 8:10 says: "And the third angel sounded, and there fell from heaven a great star, burning as a torch, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters;" and 8:11: "and the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood..." Regards, Jani |
   
James Roy Mizar
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 05:27 am: |
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Salutations all, Since this universe being born as twins, would twins show up more within Dern and Dal? Salome James |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 06:35 pm: |
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This could be posted where questions soley about the TJ are asked but I think this is a larger and very important question. Jmmanuel stated that Israel would know no peace because the land had been usurped from its original owners. The problem is, doesn't that hold true for almost every country on Earth as people have invaded and settled all over from time immemorial? Since that is the case, why doesn't this admonition apply to almost the whole world? Michael |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 06:03 pm: |
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Hi Michael, It seems that this part of the world, with it's history of religious leaders persecuting true prophets and falsifying true spiritual teachings, bears a HEAVIER burden of guilt and torment, which has lasted for many centuries. At TJ 30:9,10 when on trial before the Jewish Sanhedren and the High Priest Caiaphas, Jmmanuel gave a prophetic declaration saying; "Truly, I say to you, if you beat and mock me, you shall be beaten and mocked by those whom you, since ancient times, have enslaved and whose land you and your forefathers have plundered. And the time will come in five times 100 years when you will have to atone for this, when the legitimate owners of the land enslaved and deprived of rights by you will begin to rise against you and fight against you into the distant future." What I gather from this is that these religious leaders whom Jmmanuel exposed as being liars, deceivers, hypocrites and swindlers who block the development of people's spirits and consciousness with their lies and false teachings, did the same to the prophets before him and would continue to do so in the future. As Billy has recently said; "There is the rule, therefore, that those will be presented with the bill who are executing violence or terror, or some other crime or wrong. Therefore, no state or person must be surprised when they are confronted with violence and terror, or when, even from their own side equal violence, terrorism, or some other crime or simply some other wrong begins." Lonnie |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 08:00 pm: |
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This is a more difficult concept for the average person who uses the "everybody-took-someone's-land" argument. There appears to be a specific karma here that is unique but that doesn't make it any easier to reason, or I haven't found the way to do it yet. After all, most people also don't know about the TJ, and wouldn't necessarily readily accept it as true if they did. It seems that we're so far down the road in the wrong direction that it isn't going to be radically redirected to a more favorable outcome. What seems more likely is that we here are laying a foundation upon which to build understanding in the future, when the dust settles, and when humanity is ready to realize how insane all the unnecessary destruction was. It's not much of a consolation though when we can see how this whole war is going to unravel and spread and create far more terrible consequences so diametrically opposite the illusion of the "noble" US-Allies agenda. My feelings about it only. Michael |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:26 pm: |
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Michael, what you said about being so far down the road in the wrong direction may very well apply to the whole world at this time, especially with regard to the US led coalition against terrorism. This may be why they cannot bring about a comprehensive and lasting coexistance that would be worthy of a human being. They are so deep into the idea of retaliation and revenge and are lacking intelligence to such an extent that neither a rational thought nor a reasonably resulting feeling may become firmly established in them. They don't want to give up their high-handedness and lusting for power and start thinking in a clear and humane way. Here again, I am partly quoting what Billy said in FIGU Bulletin #36. Lonnie |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 10:21 pm: |
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Lonnie, I have a feeling we're in for a humbling experience, not to diminish at all the terrible impact that 911 has already had here in the states. I just feel that it's like pulling a thread on a sweater and the whole fabric begins to unravel. I know it doesn't look like that to most people here who are focused on "kicking Taliban butt", dropping 15,000 lb. bombs, etc. Billy has said it clearly in #36, as have other thinking people. One problem still remians in that we have no idea of the real history of humankind and its origins, let alone the admonitions from the TJ, to reflect upon. Deeper thinking and common sense have given way to this vengefuL, retaliatory response instead. Michael |
   
Norm
| Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 07:21 am: |
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A glimpse of the world . . . If we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people, with all the existing human ratios remaining the same, it would look something like the following: There would be: 57 Asians 21 Europeans 14 from the Western Hemisphere, both north and south 8 Africans 52 would be female 48 would be male 70 would be non_white 30 would be white 70 would be non_Christian 30 would be Christian 89 would be heterosexual 11 would be homosexual 6 people would possess 59% of the entire world's wealth and all 6 would be from the United States. 80 would live in substandard housing 70 would be unable to read 50 would suffer from malnutrition 1 would be near death; 1 would be near birth 1 (yes, only 1) would have a college education 1 would own a computer When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, the need for acceptance, understanding and education becomes glaringly apparent. The following is also something to ponder... If you woke up this morning with more health than illness... you are more blessed than the million who will not survive this week. If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation ...you are ahead of 500 million people in the world. If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or death...you are more blessed than three billion people in the world. If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep...you are richer than 75% of this world. If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace ... you are among the top 8% of the worlds wealthy. If your parents are still alive and still married, you are very rare. If you can read this message, you just received a double blessing in that someone was thinking of you, and furthermore, you are more blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot read at all. Someone once said: What goes around comes around. Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's Heaven on Earth. It's National Friendship Week. Send this to everyone you consider a FRIEND. Pass this on, and brighten someone's day. Nothing will happen if you do not decide to pass it along. The only thing that will happen, if you DO pass it on, is that someone might smile because of you. Smile, you are one of the fortunate! |
   
Savio
| Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 06:39 pm: |
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Hi Norm This is enlightening ! I will pass it on . Thanks Savio |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 04:46 pm: |
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Hi Norm, That is indeed a wonderful glimpse of the world. We certainly do have much to be thankful for every day. This reminds me of what Billy said in Desiderata: "Should you draw comparisons between yourself and others, you will inevitably realize that others are either stronger or weaker than you in certain matters; this, however, is no justification for you to feel superior or inferior to them." "Therefore, neither vain nor arrogant become, neither bitter nor ashamed, for there will always be someone who is more eminent or less advanced than you in learning, morality, character and the like." |
   
Michael
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 07:07 pm: |
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I just read about something called the Georgia Guidestones, which were built in 1979, at RadioLiberty.com and which seem to espouse many of the same rational ideas presented by Billy and the Plejarens. Of course the people writing about this from the website are sure it's all an "Illuminati" plot. Michael |
   
Chris Frank
| Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:33 pm: |
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I think what the States may be afraid of is that if they do nothing, the terrorists will take that as a sign of weakness and feel that they can strike at any time again without retaliation. Just my opinion, but that is how I see it. |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 04:47 pm: |
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Hi Forumermerers, I just want to let you know that I am scheduled to appear on the Michael Medved radio talk show on Friday the 25th at 1:00 pm Pacific time to talk about Guido's book and the case. His show is carried on a number of stations around the country but there is no webcast. Salome, Michael |
   
Savio
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 08:27 pm: |
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Hi Michael Would it be possible that a recording of the show can be put on the FIGU or Billymeier.com website? Regards Savio |
   
Mark Campbell
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 08:32 pm: |
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That's great news Michael . Does he have a website that we can check for times around the country ? Regards , Mark |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 08:33 pm: |
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UPDATE: It turns out that the station does have an online broadcast. You can check it out at: http://www.krla870.com/listen/ Savio, I don't know if that is possible or not. I guess we'll do the show, see how it comes out and take it from there. |
   
Linda Williams
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 09:32 pm: |
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Kudos to you, Michael! I, for one, will stay tuned. Your dedication and courage to come forward publicly is to be commended. I don't know many of us who are "activists" at this time, willing to reach out to a listening audience of thousands if not a million+ listeners. My guess is you have been prepared to disseminate information as a part of the Mission and/or the "mission as you know it in your heart of hearts." Please announce your other public engagements soon! (Like MUFON, for example?) Best of luck Friday and may the spirit move! Linda |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 11:09 pm: |
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Thanks Linda, I'll do my best and will also do my best to not come off as one of the dreaded "missionaries" but rather as one speaking about it rationally and from the heart. A learning experience it is bound to be for me as well. I do feel well-prepared so I don't also want to give the impression that I'm uneasy about this, just a bit excited. My MUFON appearance is scheduled for April and I'll post the details as the time gets closer. Michael |
   
Scott B.
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 10:01 am: |
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Hi Michael I recently attended a MUFON meeting as was pushing Guido's book. I sold one, plus I made an announcement about its recent release. I think the old group is slowly departing, and leaving the door open to new blood. We shall see....best of luck on your presentations Salome Scott B. |
   
Linda Williams
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 08:33 pm: |
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Hi Michael, Have you survived the snake pit? Did you know ahead of time that Michael Medved would be "dismissive" (his words) and essentially belittle anything you had to say? I took notes throughout the discussion/interruption and was glad that you were able to get back to the fourth category of "evidence that is not duplicatable," namely the late Marcel Vogel's chemical analysis of the metal specimens. Otherwise, I heard too much "the world is flat" commentary, and wondered how you or anyone could get a word in edgewise. What's your take on the experience? As I said before, you were "brave" to make this attempt! Linda |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
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Hi Michael, I'm sorry I missed you on the radio show. From what Linda says it looks like the host and callers were not very open minded. Perhaps it would be good to try to get on a better show like Art Bell or Jeff Rense. Some people are, of course, more mature than others. I once wrote to Art Bell about having a FIGU member on his show to discuss the Meier case, but received no reply. Perhaps this is something that a study group can work on as a whole. Just a thought. Lonnie |
   
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 10:30 pm: |
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Hi all, As much "resistance" as is encountered now... is as much "fanaticism" as will be encountered in the future. I seem to recall "neutral positive thinking" as a method of some sort...
*s* Salome, Jp |
   
Michael
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2002 - 12:02 am: |
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Hi Linda and Lonnie, I knew that Michael Medved was against even the possibility that there is reality to the UFO subject, let alone to Billy's case. But I felt that he reduced his own credibility by being unable to answer the factual evidence with anything but a snicker. Having listened to his show many times I found him to be uncharacteristically ill-prepared to make intelligent comments, and I could have called him on it but it would have been counter-productive. I introduced the scientific evidence, the failure of the professional skeptics to duplicate even one photo or film segment, etc., all things he didn't expect. I wasn't personally offended or intimidated, I simply wanted to do my best to put the info, and especially Guido's book, out there, something he actually did for me several times. I have received basically good feedback on the show but a few people asked why I let him lead me to answer his question about Billy's spirit's previous incarnations as prophets. The reason is that I could sense that he wanted an out, he clearly couldn't do anything but attempt to ridicule something he knew nothing about. He also knew that there were claims about the lineage, it was even posted recently on this forum. I could have easily dodged the question and provided other answers but I felt that this would actually hurt the credibility of the presentation because I had stuck to presenting the facts of the case as I knew them. I figured that, had I avoided answering the way I did, he would have used the opportunity to try to further discredit me and/or the case by saying something nonsensical like, "Why don't you admit that Billy Meier claimed to be Jesus?" In that moment I decided to go with the spirit of what Billy's has said about the truth being hard and uncomfortable for people and that it is better than flowery or diplomatic words in waking them up. I realized that Billy's principle of truthfulness has caused him great pain at the hands of his fellow man and I only hoped that I honored him (rather than complicating any matters) by stating what I did clearly. Finally, I sent Michael Medved an email both thanking him for the opportunity and chiding him for not being better prepared. I added that I hoped he would study the case more so as to be a more formidable opponent next time, a deliberate ego tweeking for a guy who sometimes takes himself too seriously. I made a copy of the show which I will listen to and review at some point so as to see what I could do better and also what worked. Hope this explains some things. Regarding Art Bell and Jeff Rense, Rense doesn't yet want to touch the material, I think he's content to keep posting photos of "things" in the sky and doesn't want to deal with the substance of the Meier case. I have corresponded with him many times, sending him info of Billy's from years ago that confirms some new story or other that he psots on his site. Perhaps if Art Bell is up for it I could do his show, even though I don't relish staying up all night to talk to his callers about all the weird little things that they seem to carry on about, a clear (but dissolvable) prejudice on my part. I also left a phone message for Laura Lee suggesting I appear on her show. Michael Michael |
   
gurujay
| Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 11:13 am: |
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Hi Micheal, I heard the show online from my job and I think that Michael Medved is pompous and he is a true follower of our Spiritually Degenerate society we are living in. I found that you did a great job in getting the information across as best and this is the kind of strenght that Mr. Meier and the Mission needs. What Mr. Medved needs is to get copies of the CONTACT NOTES and other information from the FIGU site and study it more closely so he can get a better understanding as to what we are doing in the mission. Hopefully he will not disregard it dismiss it so quickly the next time. WAY TO GO Micheal.... good job !!! Be Well  |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 06:06 pm: |
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Hi Gurujay, Thanks, I actually had a good time doing the show and sparring with Mr. Medved. I had Guido's book sent to him and perhaps he will actually read it, though I'm not holding my breath. I think that the real value may be that some of his audience gets interested in the material from hearing about it on the show. I am aooriaching other shows and will let the Forum know if I get any more bookings. I am scheduled to give a lecture at MUFON in L.A. in April. All the best, Michael |
   
Linda Williams
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 08:36 pm: |
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Hi Michael, I'm pleased with your survivor/challenger attitude! I also thought you did well, although I had hoped you would have more uninterrupted air time. I understood your intermittent "caveat" (as you put it), but wonder how many other listeners caught on, as Mr. Medved's host dominance seemed to override the show. My guess is you need to seize the microphone next time, and perhaps another show or your MUFON presentation will allow for that. In any case, keep on keepin' on! Linda |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 09:36 pm: |
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Hi Linda, I've listened to the tape a couple of times and what I detected was Medved's attempt to dominate the show with his dismissive and cynical attitude but, because he couldn't refute any of the facts (and actually acknowledged that a lot of intelligent people support the case) I think he came off a bit empty, kind of bluffing his way through it. He, like most people who simply want to dismiss the case without any knowledge of it, are really unprepared when presented the facts. His ego didn't allow him to let me make an even stronger case with the scientific information, he'd have to change his opinion on the air and he sure wouldn't want to have to do that! Michael |
   
JAY
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 02:45 pm: |
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Hi Micheal, This is just a thought for all who may think about this but I would love to see the Meier case presented by you as a Documentary now in THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL under topic of UFOs. This may also help expose this more to the masses in our country especially since cable channels are a strong way of communicating with the people about this without having somoene like Michael Medved trying to ridicule the facts. Just an idea to keep in mind Micheal... BE WELL |
   
Norm
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 02:51 pm: |
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The only way a Meier show airs on DC, is if its one of Korffs debunking movies. They would never have a whole positive show on Meier. By the way does anyone have Korffs debunker video "The BILLY MEIER STORY Fact or Fiction?" I refuse to buy it, but still want to see it. |
   
Mark Campbell
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 03:32 pm: |
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Hi Michael ; If you think about it " Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher" would be a very possible show .I think Bill would appreciate the topic . He is apparently , no fan of religion .I can already see it in success in my mind's eye ,it's so obvious . Salome , Mark |
   
JAY
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 07:56 pm: |
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Mark, Bill Maher would be the best and I agree with having Meier or Micheal on it. BE WELL |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 09:05 pm: |
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Hi Jay, Mark, Norm...Luke, Matthew, etc. I don't know about Maher's show only because it seems, if I understand his format correctly, that there would need to be 3 other people conversant with the topic and of varying viewpoints. I think the audience might be a little lost having no reference points on the case. I did speak with a local Fox TV producer today and turned her onto the FIGU site with the videos, 251st Contact, etc. I think the show would require a DC approach or something similar. Last year, when I was at the Center, I discussed with Chrisitian my making a new video focusing on the scientific content of the case. My impression was that they didn't feel it was the right way to go yet. Of course I'd love to do something like this and my MUFON lecture may be the groundwork for it, once the timing is right. I'm also trying to get on some other talk shows with other know-it-alls as I feel it's good to stir up the waters and present a strong case this way too. If you guys want to let shows like Laura Lee, Art Bell, etc. know that this Horn guy is out there and ready to talk about the book and the case that would be great too. Thanks Norm for contacting Jeff Rense, we'll see if he responds. Salome, Michael |
   
Mark Campbell
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 09:28 pm: |
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Michael ; It would also have to be something that you instigated yourself ,and envision casually . Only you know what your'e ready for next .We're just glad that your'e inclined to persue this kind of program . It's inspiring , really . Salome , Mark |
   
Linda Williams
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 10:36 pm: |
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Hi Michael, "Inspiring," yes, I agree with Mark. Apropos to the above conversation, I'd love to quote Lonnie's last question to Billy on this recent round of questions to him: What is the most important thing we can do today to help with the mission? I'm so glad that Lonnie asked this question, will look forward to Billy's answer as this is a dilemma I've personally struggled with for too long, it seems. My understanding is that each of us has our own "job," if you will, that we will activate when it is necessary and timely to do so, and that we will remain ultimately alone. You, Michael, are clearly stating, perhaps, your own job when you say "I feel it's good to stir up the waters." Some of us are "mouthy." *s* Linda |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 10:38 pm: |
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MArk, Yes, I have also sent info to all of them. I am ready to go on any program that is interested. I want to walk the fine line necessary here, i.e. not come off as a looney missionary but forthright about speaking up for Billy, the case and the info in an appropriate manner. Thanks for the encouraging words. Michael |
   
Michael
| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 08:20 pm: |
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Hi, I want to let you all know that on March 8 I will be presenting a lecture at the International UFO Conference in Laughlin, Nevada on the Scientific Corroboration for the Billy Meier UFO Case. If you are interested you can check out these links which should be active at least until the conference: http://www.ufocongress.com/index1.html http://www.ufocongress.com/indexevents.htm All the best, Michael |
   
Scott B.
| Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 07:36 am: |
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Michael Thats great! Scott |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 04:29 am: |
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Hi Michael, I noticed that some familiar names will be speaking at the conference. From what we have been informed about on this forum through Billy and the Plejarans, much of the information to be presented there may not be very credible, or not relevant to the mission. Your presentation however, if well put together, may be one of the few highlights of the whole conference. I'm sure much valuable information will be brought out in the 90 minutes you have to speak. I wish I could be there. Best regards, Lonnie |
   
Norm
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 06:15 am: |
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Lonnie, You will be able to buy those lectures on audio tape or VHS, from that site in the future. I have most of the past lectures from the International UFO Congress on the Billy Meier Case on VHS. They sell all their lectures to raise money for the next UFO Congress. They have done a great service for the Mission, by letting people hear Billy's side of the case. |
   
Linda Williams
| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 10:46 pm: |
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To all interested, As a "self-appointed" MUFON agent (?), I would like to add another announcement of a lecture that Michael Horn will give this coming April 17. Here are some specifics: The MUFON LA meetings are held in the ballroom of the Beverly Garland Holiday Inn at 4222 Vineland Avenue in North Hollywood, a couple of blocks north of Ventura Blvd. and just off the Hollywood Freeway. Meetings start at 7:45 p.m. and the speaker usually starts around 8:15. Usually we like to finish no later than 10:15 because it is a week night. With the deepest respect for you, Michael, and your current outreach! Linda |
   
Michael
| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 09:12 am: |
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Thanks Linda, the above info is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I wil be in touch with MUFON again as we get closer to the date of presentation. Michael |
   
Michael
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 02:28 pm: |
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Hi Everyone, Glad to be able to tell you that I'll be on the Art Bell show on Thursday, February 28, from 1:00 pm - 2:00 am PST. I'll be speaking on the new scientific corroboration for the Billy Meier case. Art's show can be heard live on the Internet at www.artbell,com I hope you can listen, at least until you pass out or I'm done, whichever comes first. Also, for those of you around the L.A. area, the MUFON lecture date was changed to March 20 instead of April 17. Salome, Michael |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 06:41 pm: |
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Hi Michael, Nice work! That will be a good opportunity to plug Guido's book. From 1:00 PM to 2:00 AM is a long time to be on the radio. Don't you mean 1:00AM to 2:00AM PST! That will be 4:00AM to 5:00AM Eastern time, at the end of the show. BTW, the show is only heard on the net if you subscribe. It is on most radio stations across the country. Lonnie |
   
Michael
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 11:18 pm: |
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Correction time: 11:00 pm - 2:00 am! Michael |
   
JAY
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 10:41 am: |
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HI Michael, I am a great fan of listening to the Art Bell show from NYC and it seems that we need to subscribe to listen to the streams on line. Can we confirm this to be correct?, I am very interested in listening to your coming to his show but not sure if now we need to subscribe to the listening streams. Can anyone else see if this is the way it will be in his website from now on?? Thanks BE WELL Micheal |
   
Lonnie Morton
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 12:44 pm: |
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Hi Jay, Speaking for Michael I can say that to hear the Art Bell show on the net does require payment now. But, you can still listen to the show on the radio. I'm sure there is a station in the New York area that carries his show. The show is played on major radio stations all over the country. Eastern time it will be from 1:00AM to 5:00AM. Regards, Lonnie |
   
Michael
| Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 07:31 am: |
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Hi, For those who wish to hear the Art Bell show on a local radio station here is a link to his radio affiliates page: http://www.artbell.com/stations.html Michael |
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