| Author | Message | ||
    Mario |
Hello Andrew, Here I go again. I've just read a book called "The testament of St. John" by spanish ufo researcher J.J. Benitez. It was released in 1988 and it's about a new revelation from that apostle. Apostle John accepts that they were wrong about making a religion "about" Jesus and not a dissemination of Jesus' message. "There is no begotten son; we all are sons of the Father, etc." This new revelation coincides in a high percentage with the plejarans and Meier message, except for the insistence in calling Creation as God, Yavhe, Creator, etc. John keeps on calling Emmanuel as Jesus, the Christ, Master and other adjetives. J.J. Benitez states that this knowledge was given to him by the Urantia Foundation, an institution that kept the document safe since long time ago (around late 30's). My question is: From FIGU's point of view, is there any validity in Urantia's Foundation books? (Urantia's Book -which I haven't read- and the one I mentioned above). A second question is: Has Benitez gone to Switzerland to research Billy Meier Case? I hope I have better luck this time. Kind regards, Mario | ||
red |
hi, How can tarot cards not be real. and what about matchmaking astrology and horoscopes and things like that? | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello, People who even remotely think that the so-called Tarot cards have any meaning are fooling themselves. They truly suffer from a backwards thinking process as they long for secret answers about themselves that they cannot figure out within their own being, brain, and body. A labile ego, feeblemindedness, and/or a diseased and broken psyche are usually to blame for this kind of weakness that leans toward the unreal. What's worse is that by reading all of this garbage, they fall farther away from their self-understanding to the effect that they are no longer capable of rational thinking. They lose the beauty of self-scrutiny along with any hope of rational thoughts. They live in a frame of mind that welcomes superstition. If a person looks at, or attends, a Tarot reading, astrological reading, psychic reading, etc., they are "believing" or "hoping" that this is really the way things are. They do not want to think and take responsibility for their own lives and actions, not to mention their thoughts and feelings. Their decision making process becomes contaminated with false beliefs and hopes; hence, superstitious irrationality and desires. One should stay far away from ALL of these kinds of pathetic nonsense, or else they will walk the path of nonsense within themselves. Weak-minded, shallow, and blind are the ones who even give one moment of their day to looking at this trumpery. They live in a non-reality, an imaginary and empty world, where no true progress is (or could be) made. They are hurting their material consciousness more than they might realize. We have undoubtedly all been through it, however, so this post cannot really be judgmental in nature. It therefore becomes obvious that the people who cling on to these kinds of “beliefs” have not truly understood (or digested!) the spiritual teachings of the Plejarans, Billy, or the FIGU. Moreover, they will hurt themselves and those around them with their truly backwards logic and thinking. Just like a poisonous snake, one would be better off to stay FAR away from Tarot cards, mysterious advices from imaginary forces, runes, psychic Websites and "hotlines," and everything else within this category so that they can finally wake up to the sweet smell of reality and logic. Hence, they should become a truthful spiritual scientist, with the true Truth, love, beauty, harmony, understanding, and logic as their tools of the trade -- not some mumbo jumbo, hocus pocus hogwash, that has its roots in adversary forces and negativity meant to window-dress reality. The ones who roll the mental dice with Tarot readings, rune-beliefs, astrological relationship charts, false dream interpretations and the like, must realize that the ultimate harm will occur within their own consciousness and psyche. This, in turn, will hurt the ones around them as well as pollute their own household with anti-truth energies and forces. Without the true Truth, this damage can and will come about even if one looks at these silly things once in awhile just for fun(!). The adversary "doubt" forces love this kind of random behaviour in a human being and will, in turn, run rampant to cause even greater harm and destruction to the person in question. These forces will regurgitate doubts and insecurities so strong that a person coming closer to the Truth could be set back to "square one." Better would be to stick to the reality of the real instead of tempting the world of superstition, adversary forces, blind faith, and “belief." Better would be to take responsibility for the acknowledgement of reality, remembering all along that "there are no imaginary forces at work." Everything is quite "real" and comprehendible in this universe. Creation does not play dice. Therefore, the "Three R's" in this case would be reality, rationale, and reasoning. People need to realize this now more than ever before... Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Norm |
Andrew, what about people that use a Ouija board? I've heard that alot of bad things happen to people that use one. | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Norm, Ha ha ha. You are joking, yes? The crazy boardgame called the "Ouija" is the most ridiculous piece of ordure in the world. This pathetic "game"(?) should be taken off the market to spare our children and their precious developing minds. It is also a crime to teach children any superstition, regardless of whether it is 'fun' or not, as this can weigh heavily on the Karma of the parents as well as destroying any potential for logic within the child. Superstition is outdated and strictly for the weak and unstable people of this world. Superstition is passe' and blasse', not to mention archaic, obsolete, and moth-eaten and I am unimpressed by its nonsensical illogic. Superstition is, simply put, preposterous and absurd. People are still scared (to this day!) to walk in the path of a black cat or walk under a ladder. I have seen this with my own eyes. Blind belief, and especially "blind fear," (based on something that does not exist), are truly the saddest states of existence when one considers that they are actually brainwashed by something they "believe" really does exist. Belief and superstition versus knowledge and logic -- what a crazy world this is. Is it me or are we still living in the Dark Ages here? Is this not the year 2000? I think I'll go break a mirror now... | ||
Mark Campbell |
Thanks Andrew ; That's alot of progress in a few paragraphs . If everyone just thinks about how good they feel when they stoop down to pet that black cat that walked in front of them , without a thought to the moth-eaten superstition , they would know that true life follows those who align themselves with reality.I'm glad to see such a clear answer to the matter , thoughtless customs which no doubt will be abolished in far too long of a time.But , these old , useless forms of thinking , if you think about them , signify a lack of control on the part of the human ."She loves me , she loves me not" is one that is based on lack of awareness and research. If the guy would have counted the petals, he would know the outcome, but no, it has to let a flower do all the talking. He could'nt just tune in to the girl to see if she loved him or not. I mean , you CAN tell !! By now, knowing the pattern of these things we learn from FIGU , we should be able to figure out what is false and primitive. But these are good questions, and I cannot blame anyone for wondering about them .The customs had to originate somewhere long ago , and they do have to be addressed. | ||
Michael Horn |
Dear Andrew, Passionately and eloquently stated. My favorite addiction was the I Ching. Do you have anything new to add about that or is it ditto as above? I really liked the moral and ethical code that I perceived to be therein. Michael | ||
Norm |
Andrew,I knew you would have a field day with that one! :) | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello Something along this vain, but maybe a little different. Does the use of a Pendulam fall into this same category? Also how about people that do dowsing, in which they say they can find water etc.? I have seen this done when well diggers are attempting to find water and it seems to work, or is it just dumb luck. Another thing, in a different category, but I found interesting. A few years ago Guido had mentioned that the hair on a persons head acts somewhat like an antenna or attracts the "cosmic" energy. Also this applies to men who wear beards. I think it was also mentioned that some of the male Plejaran's also wear beards because of this fact., interesting>> Salome Scott B. | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello, I would like to challenge FIGU's position that tarot cards are nonsense. I certainly think that Andrew brings up an important point when he talks about the problems that can occur when people just "believe" without thinking when it comes to the meaning behind tarot cards; and that many people can become prone to "superstition" as a result of a card reading, effecting their responsibility for decision making. But I think this has more to do with the ways people are using the cards rather than the actual tool. So instead of looking at them as instruments of faith, perhaps tarot cards can function as an ordered physical display system from which to sample Universal Consciousness. In the Time subject area back in January, Mr. Uyttebroek had posted "According to Billy the present does not exist...It is the future flowing into the past." I have thought about this cool bit of information from time to time over the past few months and how it relates to other things I've learned; and for me, it helps me to better understand Creation as something that is moving, flowing, changing, evolving...not chaos, but rather logical progression of an ordered plan of Creation/Nature. So these different things that makes up our world, objects like cards and books that seem to be stationary, inanimate and separate from human beings, aren't these also in motion and moving toward a unity with us from a Universal perspective? So even when a person randomly opens any book, glancing to the first words on a page for a message, could not this information be useful at that moment through interpretation as a significant sample of Creation? Maybe when a person strives to examine any layout of reality, they are gaining a better understanding of their relationship with Creation, exercising an intellectual capacity of interpretation to find levels of significance. I dare anyone here to experiment on their own with a deck of tarot, or ordinary playing cards for that matter, just for fun; shuffle them, split the deck and shuffle them again, pick a card at random and brainstorm for some Universal significance to your decision. Since everything is really connected to everything else, this card that you choose might be considered a variable in Creation as it relates to you at any given point in time, a small piece of something that makes up your world that can be translated or interpreted from/within your life with useful significance. I would think that each particular tarot card (concept) would represent a measurable value which is part of the collective consciousness surrounding these ideas. And any nuetral-positive thinking person may be able to take a useful snapshot of his/her physical reality and benefit their life by simply sampling an ordered pile of cards and making personal observations. Which brings up another favorite bit of information here at this forum; also in the Time subject area, a quote from Semjase, "The spiritual human does not look upon the future as the time to experience Creation and the spirit dwelling within him, but the immediate here and now..." So do ya think that looking at the picture of life now, one can see a piece of tomorrow? Regards, Anthony | ||
Savio |
Hello all We understand that the future is not fixed, it's what we perform at present time that shapes our future (this must be a universal truth). Now we have "According to Billy the present does not exist...It is the future flowing into the past." If the above quote is really came from Billy, then our future is shaped by something that does not exist! Any comment? Regards Savio | ||
Anthea |
Hi, I would say that whether a person uses a tool such as Tarot cards or the I-Ching etc., it still is the individual's own thinking that is being used and projected onto these "tools" to provide so-called answers for the confused seeker. Considering the level of evolution that human beings are at these would be dangerous toys indeed and certainly not worth playing with "just for fun". All it serves to do is to further lead astray the individual's thinking because he/she is not relying on their own consciousness related powers to transform their lives. (One's future is dependent upon one's thinking and actions in the present, we have free-will). These superstitious believers would rather look for a quick fix by turning towards some external "mysterious miracle power" in the form of Tarot etc. Just another form of Religion in my opinion. I do agree with Andrew in that it is just another way for the human to abdicate from taking responsibility for his own thinking and life - thus his own true evolution. "What a man thinks that he becomes." Regards, Anthea | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Anthony, Yes, the Creation is a logical ordered progression, but only insofar as numbers are concerned. Everything in the entire universe is 'calculable' using numbers according to the destiny of the Creation. To be sure, there is "no imaginary force at work" here. Picking from a deck of cards, thinking that there is some meaning behind that, is not ordered, but open superstition created by an erratic unstable thinking process. Hence, this would be considered a blind acceptance that there 'would be' an imaginary force at work throughout the ordered universe -- an illogical chaotic state of mind indeed. Everything is a number in a logical form and order using Cabalistic techniques. Once more, "There is no imaginary force at work." Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello Andrew I know next to nothing regarding the Cabala or "Cabalistic techniques". Does this refer to values or vibrations of numbers? If this is the case then how does language and letters fit into this. Im only guessing, but do letters have a numerical value assigned to them, which then can be calculated into a set value? Im gathering from this, if a given set of values exist then through some type of calculation a predictable result can be calculated. Any additional information on how this works would be very intersting. Thanks Scott B. | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello Andrew, Thanks for your response to my post above. However, I never claim or imply that there is an "imaginary force at work" in picking a card from a deck in my hypothesis. If we say Creation is a logical ordered progression, this means to me that all objects and events within Creation must also be in motion according to this logical ordered progression. So if it is correct to say that Creation has purpose. Can we then say a card, a chair, a flower, a person, etc., within Creation has purpose (a number or value)? It seems to me, trying to interpret and understand this value is far different than "blind acceptance". Regards, Anthony | ||
Jani Metso |
Hello, How about fairies, gnomes, elves etc.? Do they really exist? I've noticed that there's those "gnome" statues at Center - does this symbolize something or are they just ornaments? Billy has also wrote a fairy tale. Could some one comment this, thank you! Sincerely, Jani Metso | ||
James Roy Mizar |
From my reading of figu material I'm aware that billy got to see in person an "elf". Salome James p.s I do not remember the text location may even be in the forum archives. | ||
Jani Metso |
Sorry, yes, I just noted from the interview with Methusalem: "...It was very special, my father told me that I should look down the forest road. So I did it and I was really happy that I had the opportunity to see an elf. An elf is a little human being which is not bigger than 20-25 cm and is living in a other dimension." So it is clear now. But anyway - if someone could tell us more about them - I'd be very grateful. Thanks. Salome Jani | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Jani, From what I understand they are helping with the Mission and live in another dimension. Recently, my wife had a sighting of one of these dear sweet elves. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
james |
Andrew, are the elves apart of the federation? and I look forward to someday meeting them mabye not in this lifetime!!! Salome James Moderator: I don't know James. Possibly, as I would assume so, but this is just my opinion. | ||
Norm |
Andrew, What do they look like, and are they only found on certain parts of the Earth? | ||
James Roy Mizar |
Greetings norm, I'm not to sure it is earth as much as it is a dimension, sorta like the universe is a pair of pants with many pockets and each pocket is a dimension and the elves live in one of those pockets and possible are able to travel to many more but my understanding of dimensions is limited to just 3 for now *s*. Salome James p.s Thank you andrew for your opinion, This is one of the best places to express them! | ||
Phil McAiney |
The elves that were helping purify the vibrations of the home Billy and the FIGU were building back in 1977 were extraterrestrials and neighbors of Ptaah's planet Erra. Their specialty was to cleanse negative vibrations from locations so that the buildings could be neutral when Billy and his family moved in. The new home was being built on the foundations of an old farmhouse that had existed as far back as the turn of the Century. Bernadette Brand inadvertently took a half-visible photo of one just as the elf was disappearing from our Dimension into his own. While we need spaceships to traverse such Dimensions, these little guys do it by thought. Bernadette was simply taking a picture of a fresh footprint someone had made in some cement that Billy had just laid down in the basement. Naturally they were curious who would spoil such work yet only leave a single footprint? When Bernadette developed her roll of film, she showed Billy the image by the mysterious footprint in the basement concrete. Sure enough, there was a half-visible dwarf's head wearing his helmet that had been visible for 1/100 of second, long enough to be captured on film on February 13, 1977. You can see a copy of this photo in Guido's book on page 50 or in the FIGU Photo Books at the SSSC. | ||
Jani Metso and Janette Poikajärvi |
Hello all, I don't know much about Mother Shipton, but I found a verse from her prophecies: "And before the race is built anew, a silver serpent comes to view and spew out men of like unknown to mingle with the earth now grown cold from its heat and these men can enlighten the minds of future man to intermingle and show them how to live and love and thus endow. the children with the second sight. a natural thing so that they might grow graceful, humble and when they do the golden age will start anew." In my opinion this is about extraterrestrials. Example: silver serpent = beamship. The rest is quite self explanatory. Best regards, Jani | ||
Jani Metso and Janette Poikajärvi |
Where's all those messages containing questions/info about Sai Baba? Kind regards, Jani Metso | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Jani, The messages you speak of were deleted from the "Talmud, Chapter 16" area. They had nothing whatsoever to do with the study group that is going on there. Further, we have decided not to talk about alleged contactees or wannabe "enlightened ones" in this forum due to the fact that they are most likely frauds. On another note, a member of this forum posted a very disturbing message about this Baba man today which was deleted immediately. Truly, this man is not worth talking about. We simply want to focus on Billy and the FIGU Mission in this forum. There are many newsgroups and discussion forums on the Internet for those that want to talk about other people of this type. Regards, Andrew | ||
Christian Frehner |
Hi Phil, Regarding your posting of Sepember 12, 2000: The persons who were responsible for "cleaning" the Center were NO elves!! They are human beings of a race that is of a smaller size than we are. Regards, Christian | ||
Phil McAiney |
Christian's comment is correct. I was wrong to use the term "elves" for people who are simply small humans. Elves and fairies belong to the world of make-believe and little green people dressed in leaves, playing pan pipes and tricks on humans like the mischievous Leprechauns. This has nothing to do with small-sized human beings who were working with the Plejaren in neutralizing the vibrations embedded in the old barn over the decades that would be the foundation for the current Center in Switzerland. Moderator: On the contrary Phil, many elves have been seen at the Center and all over the world for centuries. The discrepancy was with combining the two beings you mentioned. The elves live here on Earth and did not help cleanse the Center; the race of 'helpers' you spoke of are a different race and do not make their home on this planet. Regards, Andrew | ||
Norm |
Andrew, were do the Elves live? | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Norm, This has already been answered above -- in another dimension. The ancient Lyrian word for "Switzerland" is "elvet." Legends abound through centuries of elves and faeries being seen (and talked too), especially by children. They transfer themselves into this dimension via consciousness (non-technical) to become visible, and due to a child's innocent demeanor and neutral-positive inherent thinking, elves have mostly shown themselves to small children, or other grown humans who are in a (at that time) state of absolute love and harmony. Especially in Switzerland, one can see plastic Elves sold at stores everywhere, not to mention on display in the front of most homes; they are a staple of the Swiss culture. Many excellent books are available as well as folklore and 'sightings' all throughout Europe that explain the nature of these harmless, mischievous, crafty, cute and truly loving beings. Wonderful, full-of-life creatures they are, and big supporters and helpers of the Mission and the Center. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Michael Davo |
I think most people find that the pace of life and change, especially concerning technology, has never been as fast as it is now. I know I do; at times it can be overwhelming. But this is to be expected, being in the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, and in the future the pace of life will only quicken. In light of mankind's rapid progress and, consequently, how quickly conventions of the past are becoming obsolete, how is a person to keep up, much less adequately plan and prepare for his or her future? Any idea if the Cabalistic techniques referred to earlier by Andrew Cossette can be learned and applied to provide more direction within the sphere of one's life? This would seem fundamental to living a successful life, especially if one is to understand and fulfill his or her personal goals. Does anyone know of credible sources of further information about Cabalistic techniques? Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Anthea |
Hi Scott, Thanks for the info. Your mention of the extra neural connectors in the brain of a child certainly make a great deal of sense when one considers the growth phases of children - from learning to identify shapes, colours and sounds to talking, etc. A child's brain is a veritable sponge!  Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Anthea |
Hi, Just a thought ... it has been proven time and again that some ancient civilizations progressed to astounding heights. Could it be that "religion" plays a deciding role in the fact that we humans on Earth today are only capable of using a small percentage of our brains due to the influence of religious distorted and anti-Creational teachings? Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Phil McAiney |
Religions teach us not to question but to believe. Such lethargy creates a state of inactivity in the material consciousness. Reason and Logic become dormant and nothing new is learned with inquiry, deliberation and analysis to find the causes of things. As the mind stagnates, the spirit is not stimulated or encouraged to develop in turn. With a freedom to inquire, question and analyze one's religious beliefs start to shatter. Replacing them with more logical viewpoints eventually results if the person is fortunate enough to have material on hand, such as Billy's writings, to consider and learn. | ||
Phil McAiney |
Back in August, "Mario" asked if there was any data regarding a book published by the Urantia Society written the Spanish UFO Researcher, J.J. Benitez, called "The Testament of John the Apostle". The book says John regretted making a religion about "Jesus" rather than his messages. He also continues to call Jmmanuel as "Jesus" and "The Christ" etc. Mario asks if there is any truth to this 1988 book. I would like to say a few things about this: The word and name "Jesus" was invented and created about 50 years after the crucifixion. Up till that time, no one called Jmmanuel by that name, though he knew they eventually would and that this cabbalistic, evil name would be the basis for millions of human beings to be murdered in religious wars against one another. It caused him great distress that not only would his teachings be falsified but even his true name. The word "Christ", according to Semjase", is an old Greek title meaning "The Anointed One". In the days after the crucifixion, when most of the Apostles scattered in fear of Jewish supremacists hunting them down with Roman soldiers at their side to destroy their attempt to found a new movement, there were secret meetings held in hidden places to preach and spread the lessons of Jmmanuel. Since the lessons of Jmmanuel were already being falsified by the Jewish scholars and reintroduced into the groups of Jmmanuel's followers to confuse and detour them from finding the actual truth about Creation (thus making these religious bigots obsolete), many new falsifications began to be inserted more and more into the real teachings. People at that time were 95% illiterate so it would be very easy to do such things and get away with it as almost no one could go back to a written source to check if something had been distorted if they couldn't read the original scripts. The desire to bring the teachings to as many people as possible led Saul (St. Paul) and others to try to make the teachings attractive to various ethnic groups to the extent these would adopt them. To interest the minds of the Greeks, the word "Christus" was added to the already-invented cabbalistic word of "Jesus" to make a completely new name of someone who already had been given at birth an ancient and honourable name - that of "Jmmanuel", which in the old Lyrian meant, "He who has god-like wisdom". One of the most repulsive occult practises of barbaric pagans at that time in Greece was the murdering of children and virgins in secret ceremonies. The blood of these "sacrificial lambs" was drained into "sacred vessels" of large clay jars. This fluid was later smeared on to the bodies of the participants in this disgusting ritual. Those receiving the marks of this "ointment" on their faces and skin were given the title "The Anointed One" or "Christus" in Greek, translated as "Christ" in English. Even today, Roman Catholics in their Mass "celebrate" by taking the host which, after the priest blesses it, is supposed to be the physical body and blood of Christ. How abhorrent that 2,000 years later this "cult of Saul" still practises symbolic cannibalism every Sunday in remembrance of the disgusting and beast-like custom long ago of physically drinking and smearing an innocent and just murdered person's blood on them. When a person receives "Holy Communion" today, the priest holds up the host in front of the person's face for a brief moment and says to them, "The body and blood of Christ." The recipient of the host is supposed to repeat the words before taking the small, circular wafer-like host in their mouth to dissolve and swallow. Therefore, anyone who still refers to Jmmanuel as "Christ" or any phrase with the word "Christ" in it like "Christ the Redeemer", "The Living Christ" etc. is propagating and perpetuating a despicable practise and should be shunned. As to the word and name "Jesus", it is one of the words which, when calculated with the correct numerological values written down by Billy in the Contact Notes, equals the number of "18". This number is divisible by three 6's which should come as no surprise to equate to "666" (6+6+6). What other "beast" mentioned in the Bible's Book of Revelation could have wrought so much destruction over two Millenia than a beast with this name? Any author, so-called "channeler", psychic etc. who uses the names of "Jesus" and/or "Christ" in a way of reverence, to hold it up as an example of piety or respect etc. is deeply misinformed at best and at worst is a dangerous lunatic. To close, the Apostle John was illiterate. He could not read or write. Only Judas was able to do this besides Jmmanuel. The tradition of John as well as Matthew, Mark and Luke "writing" the story of their teacher is a lie. Religious leaders and Supremacists stole then distorted the unfinished and early records of Judas Iscariot for their own ends. They added to these from time to time and their compilations were given titles, named after four of the Apostles in a ruse to give the writings authenticity and make them believable. The "Talmud of Jmmanuel" book clarifies the true life, background and teachings of this great prophet Jmmanuel once and for all. I suggest for those of you who have not read this book to get it from the FIGU in Switzerland. It is available in English. I think that once you read it you will never forget it, and you will be able to see more clearly the correctness and falseness in any new books, TV programs etc. about the teachings and life of "Jesus". | ||
Mario |
Hello dear Phil, Thanks for your answer to an old post of mine. Someone out of the forum wrote to me on those days saying "Urantia" was an extraterrestrial name for "Earth" and that the foundation I asked for was a secret ET society. Well, that's a particular point of view, but I don't know. Regarding the host ritual, I must say that in spanish tradition, when the priest says "The body and blood of Christ" ("El cuerpo y la sangre de Cristo") the recipient must add "Y con su espiritu". I never knew if they meant the spirit of Christ or the priest's spirit, because of the spanish wording of the statement. It may say "And with your/his spirit" in spanish. Note that spanish speaking countries are very religious and there exist a lot false beliefs and superstitions. I know I'm going to receive more firing mails for this. "Mario"'s not afraid. Best regards, Mario (My real name) | ||
Norm |
Phil, Therefore, anyone who still refers to Jmmanuel as "Christ" or any phrase with the word "Christ" in it like "Christ the Redeemer", "The Living Christ" etc. is propagating and perpetuating a despicable practise and should be shunned. I think the reason some people, groups etc. use Jesus and not Jmmanuel is because most people around the world instantly recognize the word Jesus, not Jmmanuel. Maybe they realize its Jmmanuel, but to use Jmmanuel would confuse people. Even when I have a discussion with someone, about Jmmanuel, I always have to relate him to Jesus, or they don't understand who I'm talking about. Especially someone thats not familiar with the Billy Meier material! | ||
HeroVoid |
I want to transcend 'belief' and simply know things as they are, relative to the realities I am able to experience. Both physical as well as spiritual. My reality. How do I learn to separate truth from belief? | ||
Michael Uyttebroek |
Hi JP Lagasse... Firewalking as far as I know means that people actually walk over hot coals and possibly burn their feet whereas a real vision is a form of influence that a person exerts on another. Real visions are controlled visions that are extremely realistic. So much so, that the person who is subjected to these visions thinks that he is experiencing reality. Real visions can last days, weeks or months! Salome, Michael Uyttebroek | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Michael, All, My very first step onto "live coals" stung really really bad... Two thoughts went through my head: #1: I'm not doing this the right way... #2: I'm "going through” anyway! Something (energy?) seemed to place itself just underneath my feet... My second step stung very slightly (almost none) & all steps after that were "cool", like onto a carpet (or something). I went through at least 3 times, the last, just after the coals were "raked over", flame a couple of inches across all coals... Really slow... With no sensation of warmth even, or anything! That night as I lay in bed, I observed my mind's thoughts on the episode, I couldn't help but laugh! Part of me was now thinking that "hot coals" were like a sidewalk... (not hot at all) and yet the bottom of one foot (first step?) was still stinging! From all this I saw: Some parts (at least) of my mind(s) can be totally incredibly “stupid”! One part of my mind can sure change it’s point of view quickly, throwing all past realizations (etc.) away, with no reconciliation of reality even attempted !! Conscious verbalized thought by itself isn’t worth a (!!)! and cannot be trusted whatsoever in determining Truth! Also, the “energy” I felt… I’ve been watching over this ever since… (another topic entirely)! For me, exists the possibility that we all experience so-called “miracles” everyday, and yet we think nothing of this…? Salome, JPLagasse | ||
Michael Davo |
Dear Christian Frehner, In a perfect world where accurate data is available (such as the precise moment of one's birth) and the proper methodologies are utilized, what type of knowledge and logic on a personal level may be obtained through an astrological reading and the study of one's cabbalistic numerical value? Do Core and Passive members that study the Spirit Lessons bother themselves to do or seek out astrological readings and determine and analyze their cabbalistic numerical values? Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Gabor |
Hi all! I'd like to ask that,is there any forum with advanced technology? I mean, i am a Hungarian research team member and we are working on anty-gravity and superconductivity...And i have a fiew interresting questions.... Thank you. Moderator: If you mean another forum outside this, the FIGU Discussion Board, then I am unaware of such a forum. If you would like to ask technical questions in this Forum, specifically related to FIGU or the Plejarans, you are welcome to do this within the General Area: FIGU-Related: Miscellaneous section. -- Marc | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello This statement was in Contact 251, could this be any indication of what is happening? On a broader scale, expect a coup involving the USA and its president, which will stun the entire world. Scott | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hi Scott ; I thought the coup was with the Clinton scandal .It was somewhat stunning , and had elements of a coup , or a standoff , at least . Mark | ||
Michael Horn |
Scott, Absolutely amazing, I was going to raise the same question! Michael | ||
Michael Davo |
Hello Mark, Yes, I too am fairly convinced that the reference in Contact Note 251 to a coup involving the USA and its president is to the Clinton/Lewinsky affair. After all, President Clinton was nearly impeached over the matter. I know Randolph Winters has fallen from grace and should not to be taken seriously, but what do you think about his comment, attributed to Pleiadian Prophecy, regarding President Clinton possibly being the last president elected in our normal manner? Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Does anyone remember the Art Bell Show? I know for myself he had many entertaining topics as well as some very controversial guests. Does anyone remember a gentelman by the name of Fritz?, this man used to call in quite frequently with I believe a German accent. Many times he would make references to Billy Meier and always from my recollections would be in support of Billy and his work. Ive always wondered who he was and has anyone met this person? Salome Scott | ||
Michael Davo |
Hello Scott, This may be a stretch, but what about checking on the German language Discussion Forum? Not that I speak a word of German, but there is an individual named Fritz Gollmann that seems to regularly participate in discussions on that forum. Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hello ; Regarding the Presidential coup topic , by now , the new situation with the ballots and lawsuits seems to be one more reason to devise a new system of election .Somehow it doesn't seem likely .Maybe at the end of their debates , they can draw straws for the winner. Mark | ||
Norm |
Scott B, I remember that guy! He also called the radio show Sightings with Jeff Rense, and challenged Korff when he was on! | ||
Michael Davo |
Hello dear Andrew Cossette, I hope you are having much success with your new projects. Is it true that each and every day holds a unique and special significance for every individual, unlike that found in any other day? I often wonder how much better we could align ourselves, our thoughts, plans and actions in harmony with nature and Creation if only we could understand and capitalize on the distinct potential of every day. Can you possibly share with us some information about the correct understanding and application of Astrology, even just a miniscule primer? By-the-way, I recently purchased and eagerly await the arrival of a copy of the out-of-print Hans Holzer book: "Astrology: What It Can Do For You." I hope this is the author Guido Moosbrugger was referring to when he mentioned in his book "And Yet They Fly" that Dr. Holzer is one of the few reliable sources out there on Astrology. Once the book arrives, I'll be happy to share its' contents with anyone interested. Thanks for your consideration. Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Scott B. |
Hi Michael Is this book you are referring to in English? I think this would be a worthwhile book for any of us to read. Was it hard to locate? Thanks Scott | ||
Michael Davo |
Hello Scott, Yes, Hans Holzer is an American, and the book is published in English. My local library system does not have the book, and I was also unable to locate a copy after searching approximately a dozen astrology book and resource centers via the internet. So I placed an order with Amazon's out-of-print service, and they located a copy within about two weeks. It takes another 2-4 weeks for delivery. Some of the drawbacks are expense ($31.47 with shipping and handling), the binding is unspecified (hardcover, paperback, etc) and the book is used (fluidal forces ). I agree the book may be worthwhile to everyone, but only if it's the real deal, of which I'm not certain at this point. I wouldn't want anyone to waste hard-earned money on another half-baked book that belongs on the burn-pile. It would be great if someone with first-hand experience can comment on the book. Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
Scott Whitney |
Hi all, There appears to be another used copy of 'Astrology: What It Can Do For You' available from this bookseller: Lee Blatt 123 N Brunswick Ave Margate City, N.J. 08402 U.S.A. Tel:609-822-9201 email: Lee@LeeBooks.com His price is $14.92 plus s&h in case any one else is pursuing the book. I personally know nothing about this book. BTW, I remember hearing Fritz and his supportive comments of Billy on the Art Bell show. If memory serves me correctly, he called from the Phoenix area. Saalome Scott Whitney | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Michael, I was told recently by a Core member that astrology is simply a kind of "advice." Personally, I do not interest myself at all in the subject; not one iota. I would rather guide my own life through and with my own decisions without any kind of semi-'blueprint'. Basically, I stongly agree with the Core group member's opinion on this, so I do not fall in to the 'wanting-to-know-my-future' syndrome that so many people seem to be interested in these days. But, of course it is up to the individual. I feel that (true) astrology is kind of like 'shackles & chains' that prevent a truly free-will kind of lifestyle. This is my opinion on the matter. Hope you have been well! Regards, Andrew C. Cossette | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi Andrew, Based on your comments I'd have to bet that you're a Capricorn. Michael | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Michael, Ha ha ha ha, yes, you are a mini-astrologer, eh? To please you, yes, you are correct, a Capricorn-Scorpio-Aquarius to be exact... Hope you have been well! Regards, Andrew | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi Andrew, Glad you at least took the bait! Not any sort of astrologer at all, actually. I just remember hearing you mention it to someone at the meeting in OK, Anthea's a happy Cappy, too as I recall. As you can see I've been quite well, though perhaps a little too much time on my hands which allows me to tease my friends! Warmest regards, Michael | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi, In the for-what-it's-worth department, it occurs to me that much has been made in the Contact Notes of Billy's own birthday, February 3rd, and that it has some significance, for previous incarnations as well. There is also mention of the new times or age, the age of Aquarius. I believe that somewhere in the Contact Notes Billy was having a conversation with Ptaah (?) and commented about someone who was an Aries and had some of the less desireable, agressive characteristics associated with that sign. Michael | ||
Scott B. |
Hi Michael If I'm not mistaken their is also mention of the sign Taurus in Billy's book on Meditation. I think the reference had something to do with people born under this sign tended to be more stubborn. Salome Scott | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi Scott, Yup, as generalizations go, that's an understatement. Salome, Michael | ||
Michael Davo |
Hello Michael, Believe it or not, I never, ever paid ANY attention whatsoever to astrology prior to stumbling upon the Billy Meier case and reading the same items you posted above. In fact, I considered astrology to be fantasy, an assessment that's apparently still valid considering what is being passed off on the subject. However, the comments you mentioned above and a paraphrased quote attributed to Mr. Meier to "read everything you can and keep only that which accords with your experience" caused me to re-examine my perspective on astrology. At this point, I am curious to learn more about "true" astrology (if such exists) so I can judge for myself whether it has any value for me. Andrew, if astrology is taken as a "kind of advice" surely that isn't a bad thing, especially if the advice is reliable. In the best of circumstances I look upon astrology, hopefully, as another useful tool to help me navigate through life, like much of the information discussed on the forum and presented on the FIGU website. I'm not caught up "wanting to know my future," only to synchronize my life more with nature. By the way, are Aquarians known for their persistence? And your core member friend that knows about astrology.....what is his or her email address? Best regards, Michael Davo | ||
amazrice |
Hello Dear Friends, I have greatly enjoyed following this disscussion board, a fruitful median of contemplation. I send my warmest regards to FIGU, Mr. Meier, and those of "simple mind". For many years I have been involved with the public through my employment and have observed many examples of the influence or motivation certain colors and/or shapes can invoke on others. All of us have experienced, in one way or another, this basic vibration first hand, especailly when you stub your toe on that "rectangular" couch; which ironically, at a certain level of perception, this shape and application thereof seems to flow against the creational directive(any thoughts???); or when you reconize the importance of a text by a bold red headline. Surely, all would agree that there is greater wisdom surrounding the use, application, transmission, reception, and "focused thought intergration" of certain color and shapes in our daily lives. Do you think, for instance, the shape and/or color of the beamship has any significant vibration that could influence or motivate someone or something, and would that motivation be different if the ships were triangular and blue? I appreciate any thoughts on this subject. salome | ||
Marc Juliano |
I'm not sure if I understand--influence or motivate someone/something into doing what? Regards, Marc | ||
Ardie Fox |
I would think that the shape of the beamships is neccessary for their type of propulsion and has nothing to do with influencing anyone or thing. I am not familiar with how the shapes of things can influence people, but have heard of colors influencing behavior. For example, restaurants carefully choose their interior colors depending on how they want their customers to behave. If they prefer to have their customers relax and stay longer, hopefully to spend more money, they will use relaxing colors like green. If they are geared towards fast service, they may decorate predominantly with red. It keeps people moving. I have heard of prisons using pink to keep inmates calmer. Also, Title Companies like to use pink colors for their rooms used for closings on homes. People tend to get tense during home sales. People like to decorate their babies rooms with bright colors, but I think I remember reading something a long time ago, that soothing colors might be better for them. Ardie | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello dear Ardie, At the 1999 Official FIGU Passive Member Meeting there was mention about so-called "Color Therapy." Psyche/Psychic healing, wound healing, stress, not to mention flu, and nervousness, etc., can all be helped greatly with the use of colored lights. 500-750 lumens (being a normal situation) can work well. However, if you push it up to 3000, 5000, or even 10000 lumens the response/healing is much quicker. Therefore, Color Therapy is an extremely valid science. There is also some mention of what you spoke of in the book "The Meditation" by Billy. On a humorous note, there is a certain race of extraterrestrial/dimensional beings that cannot be around the color green. It frightens them to death. Regards, Andrew | ||
Ardie |
Speaking of colors... In the darkness, with my eyes open or closed, I can see moving blobs of color. It is mostly red and blue and variations of those colors. Have you heard of that? Ardie | ||
anthea |
Hi Ardie I would imagine that the blobs of colour you see when you close your eyes could be your eyes actually adjusting to the changing light (from light to dark or vice versa). If you think about it, light is made up of a spectrum of colours, that is why we perceive the ocean to be blue and grass as green etc. It is how our eyesight 'deciphers' light. At night everything melds into darker colours (greys, blacks etc.) due to less light reaching our eyes. Warmest Regards Anthea | ||
Ardie |
Hi Anthea, I have been experimenting lately to make sure I am not just seeing these colors right after turning off the light. I am able to see them throughout the night if I take a few moments to relax and meditate. I don't notice them normally if I am just trying to sleep. I don't know very much about the workings of the eye. I have wondered if I am seeing my aura. Do you think that is possible? Ardie | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello dear Ardie, I hope you are well. Clearly you are not seeing your own aura. It is not possible for one to see this color spectrum/aura as you mention in your above posting. What you are seeing involves the retina, cones, and related rods, not to mention the numerous tiny muscles behind and around the eye. This is a completely normal, natural phenomena. In other scenarios, this could also involve stored memorys in the brain from minutes and/or hours before the eyes shut for sleep and relate, again, to an entirely natural occurrence. Especially after turning off the lights, doctors state, that the brain is simply holding these stored memories. Medical professionals say that the "eyes are playing tricks" on the brain and should not be taken too seriously. This information can be found in any adequate medical reference book. Note: The total amount of human beings on earth that are capable of "seeing" auras can be counted on one hand. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Andrew Your statement regarding seeing auras I think readily applies to most people, but I dont think it is completely accurate. I do know two people who do see auras, and on occasion I have seen them too. Its is something I think can be learned to a degree, but It also as you said has to do with the persons evolution. Some of the native American cultures which teach spirtual practices develop the ability to see auras through their spiritual practices. If you notice some of the East Indian art painting shows a Halo of colors around the heads of various peoples. Salome Scott B. | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello again Scott, A quote from a Core Group Member FIGU49: "The aura is an extremely fine (in the sense of density) substance that is, as a rule, invisible for the human being. Once again, we should all realize that the eyes are playing tricks on us my friend. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
anthea |
There is a technique of photography that shows these auras - I forget the name? | ||
Scott B. |
Hi Anthea I believe the photography you are talking about is called Kirlian photography. I have seen this done before, but whether it depicts the actual aura or not Im not really sure. For what it is worth I know someone who says they have "seen" auras all of thier life and said the aura shown in the Kirlian photograpy is not what the aura looks like. This person has said the auras she observes have patterns to them whereas the photos kind of blend the colors together, and dont show any patterns or distinctions between colors. I cant verify this, but am only passing it along. Salome Scott B. |
