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Ardie Fox
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 01:43 pm: | 
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Hello Michael,
I listened to a couple of hours of your show the other night and you did so well. I'm sure a lot of people are taking a serious look at the Billy Meier case after listening to that show. As a matter of fact, my brother in-law heard the show and called me yesterday to see if that is who I went to see in Switzerland a few years ago. He asked alot of questions and wants to drive up and visit me and see what material I have that he can look at. So, you have stirred his interest for sure. Keep up the good work.
Salome, Ardie |
Glenn Mckenzie
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 09:32 am: |
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Hi Michael,
I applaud you on your appearance on the Art Bell show! Was Mr. Meier listening, I'm sure he too is also grateful! You did a fantastic job summing-up a great deal of information in such short air time. And don't worry..., if you felt you rushed through some areas, to quickly. I feel you made a great impact on many people. For a long time, I've been a huge Art Bell fan. Not because I agree with all... his views, but because he gives everyone a chance to voice their finds, experiences, and/or knowledge. Things, other media's don't want to tackle or let out. Many days and nights I've questioned people and searched the internet, looking for the truth about us and our relationship with the universe. And Billy's information really hit home and provided some relief. They might seem negative but they are truths that many can't deny. I mean, just look at everything around us.... from other humans, to animals, to nature, and to the earth. We abuse them, and it's only a matter of time before they bite back. I was sad to hear Art's view on the war, but I think you planted a seed in him as well as millions of others! He'll be asking himself, those questions we all have to ask to become more at peace with everything. I AM optimistic about the situation we're in. I'm sure Art and many others are looking for a quick-fix, and that's why they have a doom & gloom feeling. They are anxious to see results, knowing our short time in this life. BUT, they (the Pleiadians) have awaken a hidden knowledge. With help from you, Mr Meier, and the Group, I know we've turned the corner. So Michael, be persistant but don't EVER get discouraged if it's goes slower than planned. It's taken us a long time to get to the state we're in!!(being corrupted by religions for so long) Hopefully we won't be as long correcting it!  It WOULD be nice to have another 950 years to live in this life, and see it all happen!! (like the Pleiadians) *L*
Sorry for making this lonnnnnnnnnng! Now, I'll just say "THANKS" to you, Mr. Meier, the Pleiadians, the rest of THE GROUP, and the many other open-minded and considerate people of the world.
Keep ing,
Glenn. |
Howard
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 07:17 pm: |
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I must begin this post stating that I'm not to good in english Hope you understand me anyway;
Somewhere in "And yet...they fly!" (page 326), the plejarans stated that the threat of a worldwide atomic war ended in 1974. I find this very interesting since that was the year President Nixon had to leave the White House. Recently there was released a tape that revealed that Nixon considered the use of an ATOMIC BOMB during the vietnam-war. Anyone but me who can see the connection? Maybe another (vague) proof backing up the Meier-case |
Michael
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 04:57 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
Thanks for your words of support. I am grateful Art allowed me to do his show and have the opportunity speak about Billy's case. I have received email and phone calls from a lot of people, many quite far from me, who heard the show and a number have made similar comments to yours regarding the need to look within and seek more peaceful solutions.
All the best,
Michael |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 11:16 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
VERY interesting program with Art Bell !!
A LOT of information was covered !!
Just my own thoughts...
I wonder if Art knows more about the Meier materials (& everything else) than his questions would lead us to believe? (Some of his comments...)
I think he often asks questions (& makes statements) "on behalf" of his audience.
It might be interesting to talk to him "off the air" on this & other topics?
Would probably be an entirely different "atmosphere"...
Salome,
Pierre |
Glenn McKenzie
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 03:16 pm: |
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Hi Micheal,
I'm glad to hear you've reached great distances with your presentation and that there was much more positive feedback! I did find a few facts of important discussion, that you did not touch on after replaying my tape. But I'm sure you, like the Plejarans, provide answers to some questions in hopes to generate more questions which will then again, provide more answers!
What are your thoughts on this...: Before I start, I'd like to say.. I am hesitant about, speaking on the matter and I hope by no means it's taken in a -negative way. Here goes... I feel the 'billymeier.com' lags behind with much of the information. And that the FIGU website, could be... how should I put it?... More "user friendly"?? We all must thank their efforts and I am aware that they (the teachings) dissuade forced opinions, misionizing, and would rather we FIND answers, instead of being handed them! But.. providing easy access to a foundation that's already been laid, I don't think impairs the searcher's continued quest for truth and knowledge! As you and I both know, what Billy and the Plejarans have told us... is important information, but it never was or is intended to be all the answers. That when questions are repeatedly asked, answers and more questions, will be asked! (a harmonious Q&A circle, that I call 'THE BLACK-HOLE FOR KNOWLEDGE') Hence, they open a broader quest for more knowledge spirituality and technologically... FOR sollutions/answers. For someone like myself, locating information and navigating with a computer is a breeze! I've had a PC for over 25 years (back when you had to program every task you wanted the computer to perform), but for MANY other people I think 'figu.org' is an uneasy navigation and that simplifying it a bit, (not the content, but using things like hypertext instead of colored bars) and expanding the 'billymeier.com' site would be appropriate. Just some thoughts??
Moving on... I was wondering if you've found (or through someone fluent in German) anything related to the Travis Walton abduction in the Billy/Plejaran contact documents? Was he another fame seeker? Or were his reports truth, and just one of the few mentioned cases the Plejarans referred to as 'other extraterrestrial's' research visits? (ones that are not classed as contacts) Or, if Billy has ever mentioned it somewhere in the discussion board? I've searched much of the on-line documents and discussions but haven't come across it yet.
Oh yeah..., I agree with Jay, an appearance on THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL, would provide thought!
The next messages WILL be shorter! Creation's my witness!
Take care,
Glenn. |
Scott B.
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:36 am: |
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Hello Glen
In regards to your question about the Travis Walton case this was talked about over a year ago on this forum.
As I remember, Travis Walton along with Whitley Strieber and George Adamski were considered to be hoax's. When I first heard this, it was hard to believe, but thats the information that was presented.
It was mentioned in the contact notes about George Adamski, but Im not sure what the source was for Mr Strieber and Travis Walton.
You might contact the webmasters for each internet site regarding yours suggestions. This seems to be a work in progress....
Salome
Scott B. |
JAY
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 11:05 am: |
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HI Glenn,
Yes sir Glenn... THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL would be a good means of exposing the FIGU\Plejaran mission as a documentation just like "UFO's Are Real" movie documentary but if I know them well they may try and place it under the category of MYSTERIES and not placed it under documentation series where the credit is due. This may give it somewhat of great exposure however it also will give it a bad category from what I can tell. I tune into the DISCOVERY channel when they have information pertaining to archeology and things of that nature and if the Plejaran case is to be aired it will need to be under a good category in the station. I hope this can be something that FIGU could try and work on getting setup maybe with the help of Wendelle Stevens since he has presented the Meier case in the greatest of lights
Scott:
I understand the issue of the Travis Walton case, I have known an extent of information on this guy and have also seen the movie "FIRE IN THE SKY" based on his experience. My opinion to this would be that this was a hoax since it seems that they sold the story quite well to Hollywood, I dont think this is a sincere effort to be honest  , I think that Mr.Meier would have a hard case in having his life portraid in a hollywood movie, since this is fact and truth and most will find it hard to absorb in a 2 hour movie spectacular and the public has been mentally conditioned to thinking everything Hollywood makes cannot be taken seriously.
BE Well |
Glenn Mckenzie
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:00 am: |
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Hi Michael,
Me again! Just wondered is you had the chance to catch Stanton Friedman's appearence on the Art Bell show last night! He is an important tool in cracking the governments UFO secrets, but is this reason to avoid the Billy Meier case?? Most say Art speaks on behalf of his audience, how come he didn't raise any questions to him about it? Would I be right in saying Mr. Friedman has his own agendas, cracking government, SELLING videos, SELLING books, making appearances, doing lectures, signing autographs, personal gains that go on and on, so that he doesn't have adequate time to research the Billy case? And, how can he even call himself a CANADIAN let alone a NUCLEAR PHYSICIST when he hasn't heard of John Hutchison??? *LOL* I also question his funding and sponsorship,,,, why say you live in Canada, but give a Maine U.S. mailing address on air????
Anywho,,,, just some more questions!
Take care,
Glenn. |
Edward
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:31 am: |
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Hi Howard...and All...
I see your connection...Howard. Very preceptive of you!
I hope I don't hurt your Gemoed...but the Nixon
tapes are very old knowledge to me. I've Known this for a very long while. Many people have laughed at me when I mentioned this...here and there. But Now..'They Got the Proef!'
It was even so far...that many armed forces around
the world moblized...without even the mass Knowing!
There were countries behind the Iron Curtain that
Knew of Nixons plans...and even made known to Nixon 'If you Throw the Atom Bombs...We will Do the Same!'
So...Nixon was Against the Wall..himself...sort of
speaking.
Ofcourse Good/Lucky that the war did not break out in those days.
Take Care...Be Healthy...
Edward... |
Glenn Mckenzie
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 10:56 am: |
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Hi Scott,
Thankyou for that information! And, yes it is hard to believe that of all cases, Travis Walton's is a hoax! I'll continue searching for the source of that posting and take it from there. Thanks again!
Take care,
Glenn. |
Michael
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 08:22 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
Just a quick note to say that there's SO much material that a three-hour presentation can barely scratch the surface, as Art Bell also said.
You are right in that the point is for people to do the reading and research themselves.
Thanks,
Michael |
Michael
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 09:30 pm: |
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Could this be a modern day version of what the ancient "gods" used to speak to the Hebrews?
Bug sets windows shaking
By BBC News Online's Ivan Noble
at CeBIT 2002 in Hanover
Moderator: Michael, is this a Web article that can be linked to? If so, please provide the link to it as opposed to quoting it on the board. We're trying to reduce the amount of "extra text" and it would really help. Thanks, Marc
This is the Soundbug, a British-designed gadget aimed at young people that turns any hard, smooth surface into a loudspeaker.
It turns whatever it's attached to into a sounding board
Richard May, Olympia
A little smaller than a computer mouse, it is based on technology research by Newlands Scientific at Hull University, and is marketed by a company called Olympia.
"It's audio, not hi-fi. We're aiming at the eight to 16 market," Olympia's president, Richard May, told BBC News Online.
The device goes on sale in the UK for £30 this month and is showcasing at the CeBIT 2002 computer fair in Hanover, Germany. The product will also be demonstrated on the BBC's Tomorrow's World programme on Wednesday.
Rare material
At the heart of the Soundbug is a small piece of a material called Terfenol-D, originally developed by the US military for sonar work.
The makers hope the product will go down well with the youth market
"It's 60% iron with a couple of rare earth elements in it and it's grown like a piece of silicon," explained Mr May.
"When you put it in a magnetic field, it moves very slightly, perhaps a micron or so, but with an enormous force of maybe 400 pounds," he said.
"So it turns whatever it's attached to into a sounding board," he added.
Skull effect
The Soundbug attaches to audio sources via a 3.5 millimetre jack plug, so it is easy to connect to a CD player or a minidisc.
It even turns the human skull into a loudspeaker if it is pressed on the back of the head.
The effect is quite strange, as the sound feels as if it is coming from inside the head, behind the ears.
Olympia has other devices in development, including two in-car mobile-phone hands-free kits that use the same technology to turn a car window into a loudspeaker.
One even has a Bluetooth interface to work with the latest mobile phones, Mr May said.
The Soundbug appears in the UK on Tomorrow's World on BBC One at 1900 on Wednesday, 20 March. |
Michael
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:35 pm: |
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Here's a link to an article showing that scientists are coming closer to what Billy reported about the Plejarans regarding the growing of meat:
http://www.communitycurrency.org/3-21.html |
TerraX
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 12:40 pm: |
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Greetings.
On the movie Fire In The Sky,the Travis Walton story I must comment that Hollywood did a poor job on filming the actual story.The film is much different than what has been written down in several books.And reading about it in this section that it was a hoax makes me sigh bigtime.
You suppose the other 5 witnesses that were in the car watching Travis Walton being struck down by a beam of light from a UFO were hallucinating?
Not to mention they toke a lie-detector test and passed.Well,I can wait to hear your versions.
Regards,TerraX. |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 08:46 pm: |
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Hi TerraX,
My own thoughts on this case...
Given what was said in this forum & especially the Plejaren(?) comments...:
Something is not "right" with the Travis Walton case as reported.
I am keeping an "open mind" as to what REALLY happened.
Could be anything whatsoever...???
There are many possibilites...
There is obviously a difference of some sort, between what we have been told and what really happened. I have no clue presently what this might be.
If you (or anybody) find out anything interesting... let us all know, eh?
Thinking about this (& other "contact reports")... overall it might be best to approach ALL supposed contact reports the same way. Seems to be a pattern with the way most of us "Humans" tend to perceive/report events.
Perhaps an indication of the overall "human mental/spiritual condition"????
Perhaps we have a tendency to "religionize" these events.
Regards,
JP |
TerraX
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 12:46 pm: |
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As to what really happend in the Travis Walton case nobody knows for sure except Travis Walton.
The interesting part is that while he was on the ship he reported that when he woke up he flipped and assaulted small humanoid lifeforms.They fled the room and he had (limited?) control over the craft since he could see the stars change position when he touched some instruments.Later,humans similar to us entered the room and he thought they were from Nasa.He started talking to them but they didn't reply and directed him to lie on a table where upon he lost consciousness.He woke up again beside a road and watched a craft going up in the sky.
We all know that the mind can play tricks on us especially in traumatic circumstances however we also must maintain faith in our ability to percieve things as they are.In the Travis Walton case I don't know what happend for sure.That he had an experience of some sort is clear for me.
There is enough info to support that and seeing him being interviewed on tv he seemed sincere.
Regards,TerraX. |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 07:59 am: |
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Hi TerraX,
Travis Walton would most likely know what he remembers and perceived.
I think though, that the Plejarens would be in the position to KNOW what happened. They possess knowledge of all sorts and have the instrumentation & abilities to analyze this type of thing to the nth degree. Of course, they would not be able to supply us with all details... for reasons we know already.
It might be possible that Travis & the "crew" experienced a "real vision" induced by some high-tech group... for one example??
They would then all believe what happened & pass lie detector tests & everything.
Or any other combination of events & intents.
Regards,
JP |
Michael
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 05:54 pm: |
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Follow this link to the lengthy, depressing article on HAARP and humanity's latest insanity (which seems to have been hinted at in the 251st Contact):
http://www.viewzone.com/photopara.html |
JAY
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 06:39 am: |
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Hi Michael,
I am puzzled as to what this is...in any case I will read over the 251st contact again to find the information, is it possible for you to point out what section of 251st contact the hint is located??.
This is bizarre and very alarming
BE WELL Micheal |
Michael
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:47 am: |
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Hi Jay,
Billy speaks of various new weapons including something about on that modifies the weather. He mentions other weird weapons as well and since we don't yet fully know what HAARP is or will lead to as a weapon system it could be one or more of the things he mentions.
Michael |
Glenn McKenzie
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 12:49 pm: |
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Hi Jean,
Travis Walton.... there's a case!!! I do agree with you, that the Plejaran's must know something of the Travis Walton case. Although I always was curious as to why?, of all the contact/obduction cases (other than Billy's) they mentioned, they never mentioned the one that was most publicized in North America? Isn't that REALLY wierd? WAS IT THEM, (the Plejaran's) INVOLVED??? It would have been nice if they had talked to Billy about it! If he'd been given details on what happened, those details might have helped Travis deal with the ridicule, and may have given Travis a better understanding of his (5 days) loss time. Still as of today Travis gets very disturbed with what he remembers, and dislikes talking about it. And he is really fearful of finding out what he doesn't remember! (through hypnosis)
You're theory's okay... but you're overlooking one major factor... how do you explain the 5 days he was missing? OH, and the doctor that examined him, said Travis was extrememly dehydrated from not drinking in days!
Could this be one of the cases the Plejaran's brush off as "not a contact" but a "research encounter". Furthermore, I don't think Mr. Walton would agree that these so-called "research encounters" are as pleasant as the Plejaran's project they are! On one hand they (the Plejaran's) say, these "encounters" are nothing serious and the subjects are left without pain or memory of such.... but and on the other hand they say there are some nasty ET's that visit earth! SO,,, WHO ARE THEY?? WHO WAS IT??? What's nasty in their eyes?
If the ET's that explored Mr. Walton are "friendly researchers"...... I don't think we want to meet the nasty ones! *LOL*
Take care,
Glenn. |
James the truthseeker
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 05:07 am: |
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Greetings, TerraX and everyone.
Regarding the Travis Walton case, it looks like I'm going to have to clear this one up here too. In one sense TerraX, you seemed to answer your oun question when you mentioned: "Later, humans similar to us entered the room and he thought they were from NASA". Yes your not far off here as this UFO case like that also of Ed Walter's Gulf Breeze sightings is not of an ET nature at all but are actually of the USA military nature. I seem to recall hearing that the people in Gulf Breeze Florida eventually saw UFOs in and around a military base in the area, then these sightings were no longer reported. The Travis Walton case also involved a military UFO craft with supposed "military cloned" aliens(not the real aliens) of which to furthure bring out their own experiments on the general public. The more people fear things like reptilians, grays and the like, the more they wont suspect the truth, in an already perpetuated lie. Take note the simularities in the last names "Walters & Walton", or the name "Betty" in women, as did the Germans take note of the name "George". There is an apparent reason for all of this. Whitley Strieber is suposidly also asciated with the military.
Weather it is a German hoax!, or a US military hoax!, a hoax is still a HOAX!
Take note what Ptaah said here in the 251 contact:
Billy: Yes, I know. In this regard, America especially leads the way in hysteria and idiocy.
Ptaah: That is correct, but MUFON alone must not be blamed for this entire hysteria; many religious sects and, in particular, the government itself must share in the blame. In fact, the latter hides a great deal of important proof about the existence of extraterrestrial life, and the appearances on Earth by these beings, in their secret and undercover files; indeed, the government prohibits by law contacts of terrestrials with extraterrestrial life forms.
Salome,
James the truthseeker |
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