| Author | Message | ||
    Norm |
Did anyone else notice, how some of the alleged photos & blueprints of the German UFOs, look exactly like the UFO photos that George Adamski allegedly took? | ||
Vegas Vic |
Japanese video footage of W.T.C. UFO Sighting? Judge the incredible video footage for yourself, posted in a Japanese site, that appears to clearly show a UFO trailing the second United plane as it crashed into WTC Tower 2, and then zoomed away. Amazing footage..be sure to click on the streaming links near the bottom of the page to see it for yourself: Go to http://www.shop1.net link to the footage is halfway down the page | ||
Steve M. |
Hi Vic, I was 3 blocks away & watched the horrific 9/11 event as it happened.I actually saw the 2nd plane hit/felt the impact. I can tell you 1rst hand that I didn't see any U.F.O at the time. There are many things I have seen on the web(faces made of smoke, people saw god, the devil, u.f.o's)All this can be done & made with computer effects VERY easy today. I'm sure between the hundreds of pictures (moving & still)shot that day ,there would be many who would have caught these things if they were really there. Mainly, ALL THESE THINGS DO TRIVIALIZE THE HORRIFIC EVENTS OF 9/11. Some people have nothing better to do than create these illusions. Salome, Steve | ||
Morell |
Hello All, From 1994 I am interesting in UFO case. In one summer in midnight in 1996 I go with my friends to little lake in the city. We smoke grass and then we go to swim, we enjoy. I was little shocked if I swim, then I feel good. Then we spoke to each other and we were lying on the floor. When I lie down and I was quiet 3-5 minutes, I feel good and start to speak in my mind “Please love come to this place” I speak this 5 or 10 time again. I looked to sky and stars it was beautiful and then I see it. Two yellow lights circle points go from east to west. They have identical size like ¼ of month. It was great. They fly over the cloud and fly on. I look to my friends. They spoke to each other. I look back to sky and lights were there. Lights reduced size like fly to west. It was gratefully. I have never hallucinations if I smoked grass. But this I don’t know exactly, what was it. I think it was UFO. Maybe it was my illusion. If it was not illusion, is possible in change consciousness one person or more (with little smoke grass, with meditation, ... - I don’t want to compare this-) recall UFO to see it? Because it is very powerfully thing to see it. In 1999 I go to this place again I don’t smoked grass and start to speak in my mind “Please love come to this place” I speak this 5 or 10 time again. But nothing to happened. Thank you Morell | ||
Kevin |
I am concentrating all my efforts to see a beamship and to be abducted so I may learn the others way of life first hand. I'm patient! | ||
kevin |
Not to be taken the wrong way but I would enjoy learning from another visitor from another world first hand. | ||
Norm |
Check this out, This ship has been seen by more than a few people. Even thought he's got his info wrong it sure looks like one of those German ships. "UFO Image Archive Unique family heirloom This entry has few details except an unknown location in the US, a date of June 10, 1964 and: "I did not take this pic. It was discovered by my sister in an old family bible. It was taken by her husband's father but he had no more info than that." The image is exactly as we received it, same size and all, with no modifications whatsoever. Based on the size and shape of the paper, this appears to be consistent with an old photo, complete with wrinkles, water stains, and what looks like a cigarette burn. I posted this image on an online UFO club and garnered several responses, including: "I must agree the photo looks to be genuine.. I wonder if anyone has thought of submitting the photo for analysis to Mufon or CUFO's...The ship in the photo bears a great deal of resemblance to the so called Beam Ships photographed by Billy Mier.. I can think of no reason someone would go to so much trouble as to fake a photograph then hide it in a family bible for years.. Especially back in the days when faking a photo like this was a real technical achievement, requiring the talents of a model builder and a highly skilled [amateur] or professional photographer.. Just possibly this is one of the better photos to be taken of a real UFO.. Will be interested to see any follow ups.. " - JERRY (64/M/ROSEBURG, OREGON)  http://www.ufodatabase.com/photos/unknown.asp | ||
JAY |
HI Norm, I gathered that picture as one of my UFO collections for myself in an album I created of UFO pictures. The picture shown here seems very much like something we humans here on earth definitely created. You can see the difference in the Plejaran beamships, they are not unlike anything created on earth in my opinion, thanks for the site as well is a good site to look over. BE WELL Norm  | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Jay and Norm, Apparently, the photo your refering to here has being claimed by many such individuals who have in the past possibly purchased the photo itself then claimed to have aquired it from a friend of theirs to claim copywrites on it etc. It is actually of a German type Haunebu 2 man made UFO craft, as I have aquired a collection of German UFO photos from all over the world which I hope to one day post all to a website for people to compare. The photo in question is actually from an (8mm) film clip from southern Oregon around the mid 60s, of which I have in my privit archives. Jay, if you want a better photo for your files then go to ART BELL"S UFO PAGE. Enjoy! Salome, James the truthseeker | ||
JAY |
Hi James, Yes.. this picture from Oregon will suffice for now, however you did mention you have a good collection of German UFO picture of your own, maybe if you like you can share some few with me so I can also add to my collection of German UFO shots, thanks for everything. BE WELL James | ||
Edward |
Hi Norm...And All... I like what you posted. I seem to have a problem and Not see the picture, can only see: 'Your image here.'(No picture!?)...but I think I know how the ship looks like as James-T-T-S is discribing it. What I like about your posting is how the picture was found. Here's mine: A sister of mine years back had a boyfriend and his father was into antiques. One day they found a book dating back from the second world war. When the book was opened...there was a photo-print in black and white(very old fashion..maybe self developed?)...of an Alien I have once read in a book here...that was written by a Belgian. To make it short; it was about his encounter with the small Hairy humanoid Jargans.(I think this that what they were called). I must add it was a drawing that was photografed. Later on I knew a friend and one of the guys in the groep we were always around said the it was His uncle that wrote that book about his encouter with the Jargans. To get back to the story... well, my sister knew I had Multiple Sightings back in the 70-80's...so she came home with the print and showed it to me. When she showed it to me...I recognized it as a Jargan! So, the print is still in possession. The print was very old and yellow, but I do not know if it was Drawn during the second world war. And the father of my sister's boyfriend could never find out where or who's book it was. So...it goes to show you how Things Can Happen in the most funnest ways!... I can not Verify if the Jargans really existed...the book did sell very well here in europe...I am not sure if the book came out in the usa? This was a 70ties book...if I am right. I can only say...Maybe only Billy and the Plejarans can tell us if the Jargans are a real alien race? And if the Jargans had contactees here in europe during the second world war? Or just observing our worldly events? Take Care...and Be Healthy.... Edward... | ||
Norm |
Edward, use the url to see the pic. | ||
Edward |
Hi Norm nice to hear from you.... Yes, I just clicked on the url and went to the webpage. Yes...as I thought..it..the ship does have the likeness of the Adamski Bell-sauce. Very fasinated I must say. I have seen that picture or one with that likeness once or more times in the past in books. What can we make of it? Looks real enough. Would be grand if there was more information on the sighting and the picture. Thank you Norm... Take Care....Be Healthy... Edward... | ||
Claes Elmberg |
Hello Boardmembers, This is my first message. I am located in New Zealand. I am wondering about a strange pulsating sound that a friend of mine has heard early mornings between 2-4 am over a period of several months. Sometimes she has observed moving lights in the sky during theese times (she has a skylight window over her bed). She said she observed this soundIn New Zealand for a few months with a gap(no sounds for a week or so) before easter. Now she is in Germany and she is hearing it there too. Even some of her friends in Germany have also heard this pulsating sounds for months. I haven't heard it myself. I suggested to he that maybe it's HAARP testing. What do you think it could be? PS. Thankyou Figu and youall for sharing all this info, especially the spiritual info. It feels very much like truth to me. I am very grateful DS. //Claes | ||
pureharmony |
I have heard similar sound here in Seattle, WA, USA around 2-4 am here as well! Wow that is totally trippin me out cause you are so far away from me hearing the same thing! weird | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi to everyone: Another possible UFO sighting in USA, Washington D.C. area on Friday, 7/26/2002. Military officials confirmed 2 F-16 took off from Andrews Air Force Base to to track a craft in that area, but 'Everything was fine in the sky, so they(2 F-16) returned home' Ground witness, Renny Rogers in Waldorf, Maryland, saw 'a lighting blue object, traveling at a phenomenal rate of speed, and the Air Force jet was right behind it, chasing it, but the object was just leaving him in the dust.' My conern is that 30 years ago, when Air Force investigate UFO, they openly admitted seeing something can not explained, even with one case in Washington D.C., but now our military will deny seeing anything. That is a big step backward. Only with an open mind to observe the facts around us, we will start to realize the truth, hiding facts from taxpayer is guilty, and will delay our spiritual development. I just felt my tax dollors not working hard enough, even lying to me..... BTW, this news is from Washinton Post, can be found also on Saturday 7/27/2002 Los Angeles Time, Page A16. Take care. Hampton Chiu | ||
pureharmony |
On Sunday August 4th at about 1:15 am in the Pacific time zone I saw a large bright round ship flying silently and quickly in Tacoma, WA, USA. | ||
Lars |
Hi Pureharmony, I don't doubt you saw a UFO there in Tacoma WA I have heard that there is somekind of joint -owned alien base around the Mt.Hood area in WA. there have been numerous reports and incredible stories which date back to the last century about this area, of strange encounters with flying objects! About how long did you view this UFO ? and can you describe more detail about what it looked like? what color was it's light? Lars | ||
pureharmony |
Lars, Yes I know alot of credible people around here that have seen ships, and this is the first one I have seen (that I am aware of). As I was relaxing in my backyard looking at the stars directly above my head, it appeared directly above me, and was moving from North to South. It was clearly a solid round object, a luminous white light that seemed as if someone switched on a lightswitch suddenly, it was lit for a few seconds as it was travelling, then it dimmed out quickly like someone turning off a dimmer switch. It must have travelled hundreds of feet or maybe a couple thousand feet super fast. The size was approximately 2 inches around if I measured it stretching my arm all the way out using my fingers to measure the size (did that make sense) | ||
pureharmony |
Yesterday my husband was on his way to work in the morning with a co-worker, and they saw a beamship! They stopped the car to check it out, they said it "blinked" on and off several times. It was below the rising sun, apparently. They both were very certain of what they had seen! It was seen near Seattle, WA. | ||
Lars |
Pure harmony Sounds fascinating, I too saw an alien spacecraft in Pine Bush NY state in July 1993 this area is a reputed hot-bed area for UFOS, anyway my friend and I were riding along in his Pick-up truck , it was night about 11:PM when all of a sudden I saw a huge diamond shaped spacecraft rise straight up out of a field behind some trees, the craft must have been 200 to 300 feet in diameter and it was glittering a brilliant white florescent light underneath, it's underneath looked like a lit up circut board of live glowing white light! It was absolutely an incredible sight, it just shot straight up into the night sky, soundless and was gone! Lars | ||
Lars |
Hello everyone, I wanted to mention a remarkable UFO sighting I had almost 10 years ago in Dec.1992. This sighting occurred around 6:30PM while I was waiting to catch Public transportation enroute to go and study the first 35 Contacts of Billy with Semajse. I had just that summer learned about Billy's contacts and movies,picts.etc and I was extremely enthusiastic about the case. So while standing there in the cold Dec.air waiting for a train, I turned around and looked at the horizon to the south, it was dark now and it was a clear night, suddenly I saw a large bright white star at about a 40 degree angle above the horizon, But this light was no star for it appeared as if to catch my attention by blinking on and off three times in quick fashion! I said "wait a minute here, this is no star nor is it a planet," stars don't blink on and off like as I saw this object do. So this intrigued me greatly so much so that I decided to walk down a side road off the main where it was darker and I could more closely observe this unusual light. Well as I stood there watching the light which was white, all of a sudden the object started to slowly shrink in size and as it did it turned evermore in color from white to at last red-orange! when it was orange it was a very small dot! I noticed also a strange wavy feeling and a wavy appearance to this light it was swaying ever so slightly from side to side; Just to prove I was'nt hallucinating I stopped a man walking and asked him if he could see this same light I was seeing he said he could see it and said it was swaying from side to side and seemed too strange to be a star., I strongly feel that this UFO sighting was a Plejaren beamcraft. knowing of the generous nature of the Plejarens and how they gave sightings of their craft to Billy's friends in Switzerland, I figured they were just being gracious to me and afforded me a sighting of one of their craft. While I can't prove that the object I saw that night was one of the Plejaren's craft, in all probability I think it was one of their's, given the related circumstances. Salome, Lars | ||
Lars |
Hi everyone, It happened again, i had another unusual UFO sighting, last night Sun.Aug.18, I went out for a walk up around a lake, it was turning dark the time about 8:15pm as I was exiting the lake area I turned to gaze west on the horizon and there at about a 40% angle I saw a large orangish-red light which at first I thought was just the planet Mars or some star, But as I continued to observe the object, I noticed it was pulsing intermittenly, then it shrunk to a dot in size then expanded again; NEXT it emitted what I can only describe as looking like a transparent sheet or shower of white light. after this it next released a smaller ball of red light from it's main light and it ascended up in position from it's center! it also did this in a descent movement. NEXT.it, the Orangish light was emitting a distorting effect around it like transparent waves, As I observed it I saw and felt that the the object was moving, yet it remained stationary.This action suddenly made me feel dizzy and I felt like I was falling! within 15 minutes I saw the object was moving away but not from it's 40%angle. it was moving way at a 40% angle parallel to its position, finally it completely disappeared! because of these unusual properties displayed by the object and it's brief stay in the sky 20 minutes or so, I knew it was no planet or star. I concluded the object seen was an extraterrestrial spacecraft. Salome, Lars | ||
pureharmony |
Lars- totally Cool! What direction did you see it (North, South, East, West)? I saw something red and orange on Saturday night, but it was quite far away. It struck me as strange because it appeared rectangular!? Not the shape of a typical star...I need to find my binoculars! pureharmony | ||
Linda |
Hi Lars, I don't doubt that you had a sighting of some sort, but how can you conclude with certainty that it was an ET craft? It is known that the military has had for some time the capability of "reverse engineering," i.e. duplicating the physical appearance and propulsion systems of downed ET craft. I asked in a workshop, "How do we distinguish between an ET vehicle and a man-made one?" How do you do that, Lars? Linda | ||
Linda Williams |
Lars, How do you accurately distingish an ET craft from a man-made craft? Linda | ||
Linda Williams |
Lars, I hate typos! I mean distinguish between ETs and Us. Linda | ||
Lars |
Hi Linda, Thats a very clever question to ask! The reason I concluded that the Object I saw the other night was an ET craft, is because it responded to my thoughts, for example after it caught my attention, I sent the object a mental greeting and request that if it really was alien it would do something to persuade me. right after this the object started emitting what looked like a transparent shower or sheet of white sparks or light, like snow! this shower came first from underneath the object and sprayed downwards, and then a few moments later it sprayed a shower upwards! Also the object shrunk in size to a small dot, then resumed its larger size. The strangest effeect of this sighting was that the object had some kind of distortion effect which created like transparent waves all around it which made the black night sky shimmer in waves! also when this happened I noticed that the treeline tops suddenly became illuminated with like a photo flash cube kind of light which was eerie! But overall what really made me conclude that this object was ET and not earthmans was because it really responded to my thoughts\telepathy by performing more marvellous sights as I talked to the object or it's occupants. I really do not think it was of earthly origins, and even if it were I don't think earthman are capable of responding to telepathy, unless of course they posses ET technologies. Lars | ||
Lars |
Hi Pureharmony I like your name! I guess you are a female hunh? The object(Orange light ) I saw Sun.evening was in the SW sky at about a 40% angle. This Orange object released a smaller ball of red light which rose up fast in a swervy motion above the main object. within about a 15 minute frame it released smaller red lights several times. I stood there amazed and grateful that I was privileged to see such a sighting. Lars | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi Lars: Keep up the daily walt near the lake, you might have more contacts. Keep us posted. Hampton | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings everyone, It's getting to the point where sighting UFOs are as common to see as airplanes! This is good and fun to see! James TT. | ||
Norm |
I pulled this off a newsgroup. Louis Farrakhan said inspiration for the "Million Man March" is based on his alleged, "vision of being swept into a UFO that took him to a larger mother-ship." While in the UFO, he claims to have spoken to the late Elijah Muhammad before being beamed back to earth. (The Washington Post, Sept. 18, 1995, p. D3). | ||
Linda Williams |
Hi again Lars, I tend to agree with you that the telepathic element of your experience with the craft distinguishes it from earth human origins. I will also be very interested in hearing more and hope that more will be revealed to you! Sorry about the confusion of my above posts. My original one went to the queue for some reason, so I re-posted, then posted again. Linda | ||
pureharmony |
JTT- Yes it is good to hear about the sightings but still I think we have to be cautious. The reason I am saying this is that I know people that have had negative encounters with the so called "greys". I could tell you some stories! One person in particular is a close and personal friend of mine. Just like people, I believe there are good and bad ET's alike. I have always protected myself with prayer and I have never met these "greys", but they made alot of people within our community very, VERY scared of them. One guy even made an "Alien Bat" weapon he called it. My other friend was chased down the mountain by them. My other friend witnessed a mass abduction in his neighbor hood in the middle of the night, SO BE CAREFUL!!! I think we need the Plejarans around now more than ever, so Thank You, any Plejarans that could be reading this! -pureharmony | ||
Lars |
Hi Hampton and all Hampton I took your advice and went for another walk tonight Tues.Aug.20. up at the lake to see if the orange light object might show again. Well at about 8:15 again I looked at the western horizon it was just turning dark, and there Up in the sky I saw a large white star which I immdeiately recognized as Venus, but as I observed it I saw the white light was shimmering something planets do not do. So I again mentally addressed the object and asked that if it was the same object and ET that it would turn Orange in color, after 15 minutes the white object slowly turned orange! as well as moved its position down towards the horizon. Now I knew this object could not have been Venus or a star, because it changed it's color as well as moved rather quickly in angle, faster than all the other stars which remained more or less fixed. How'ever the object tonight was not emitting the showers and balls of light I saw it emit on Sun.eve. tonight it seemed as if the object was trying to camoflauge itself as a star or a planet! After 30 minutes of observing the object it descended to about 10% above the horizon and once there it just blinked off then not 10 secs later it blinked on again then off, right after it blinked off the final time, there was a sudden flash looking like heat lightning which lit up the western horizon!!! That was the end of the sighting... No way was this object either venus or a star, because it responded to my request by turning orange from white in color and because in the end of the sighting it lit up the horizon with lightning flashes! Lars | ||
Linda Williams |
Lars, May I suggest a more assertive approach to these sightings you are having? In other words, you (we) do not have to wait passively for them to contact us. We can contact them, so I'm informed, through certain protocols. I think it would add to your effectiveness if you could have a credible witness or two with you. As a group you could, perhaps, transmit a message or symbol and telpathically ask your craft to respond to it. As an example,a current UFO group did just the same experiment in England and "received" in a crop circle the exact same picture they were transmitting. They clearly felt they had communicated with the ETV (EXTRATERRESTIAL VEHICLE and its participants.) The picture became the group's logo. Since your particular lake setting is obviously not similarly receptive as a crop circle, perhaps you could consider another but similar approach. In any case, it's obvious that you are momentarily wide-eyed and ready! Please consider this CE-5 contact approach, that is initiating contact. Wish I was there! Linda | ||
pureharmony |
BBC news has a great online section where people are posting UFO sightings, BBCi/Wales actually. Those interested in reading the sightings stories (very interesting i might add) can goto: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/yoursay/topics/ufo.shtml Alot of people are seeing alot of ufo's! | ||
pureharmony |
Ok so I found a page of "a rash of UFO sightings" which are all from this year. This is great I think because it allows us to be informed about current events not in the mainstream news. I am fascinated! I thought that some of you may be interested as well, so here is the link: http://www.rense.com/general28/filers81502.htm scroll about 3/4 down the page to find this interesting news story "RUSSIAN HUNDREDS WATCH UFO DOGFIGHT OVER AIRBASE" | ||
Linda Williams |
Dear Pureharmony, I fully agree that we need to consider these encounters carefully, meditatively, and reverently, focusing on a peaceful and loving relationship between earth humans and extraterrestial beings. This, in part, is what I was suggesting about "initiating human/ET communications" protocol. I do believe that we have a protective shield around us now that some refer to as the interplanetary council, capable of preventing bad things from leaving earth and preventing bad things from entering earth. An example of this can be found in the following quote from a recent Washington D.C. witness, U.S Air Force Lietenant, Professor Robert Jacobs: So this thing (UFO) fires a beam of light at the warhead, hits it and then it moves to the other side and fires another beam of light. And the warhead tumbles out of space. What message would I interpret from that? (The UFOs were telling us) don't mess with nuclear warheads. As for the greys, or Zeta Reticuli, famously known by now as the abductors performing genetic experiments, I have for a long time been following these cases and the work of Bud Hokins, in particular, for my own personal reasons. It is my understanding (from somewhere?!) that the greys do not do to us what we haven't already done to ourselves. Now, I'd like to quote something James the Truth Seeker had to say about abductions this past June, I believe: The majority of abductions are now actually done by US military posing as ETs, using anti-gravity craft. This, of course, leads to a big abduction hoax. So, I ask the question, why would the government go to these extremes to create such a hoax? The answer, I have been learning, has to do with the government's desire to convince the public that there is an alien threat and that we should continue to pour trillions of dollars into space-based weaponry and continue to support the military industrial complex that reaps major profits from that effort. Some say there is no evidence that ETs have anything other than a Peaceful Agenda. I'm confident that we can establish significant, meaningful, and peaceful relations with our ET neighbors, and I believe that is their desire and intention with us as well. So these are sides to an issue I often think about. Reaching to the stars myself, Linda | ||
Edward |
Hi Norm... Hope you are doing Fine... Interesting posting concerning Louis Farrakhan. I had a Strong Feeling he would Once Annouce what you have posted! And now he has come-out with it! Take Care...Be Healthy. Edward... | ||
Shannon Gaul |
(Question from Lars: post from Spiritual Teachings: Numbers and Symbols) Pureharmony, So your Mom relly saw a UFO outside your window when you were a baby? Lars (reply from pureharmony) Lars, she did not mention it to me until one day I was talking about ufo's and she brought it up just briefly. All I know is that it made her nervous and protective, so she picked me up out of the crib and brought me into the living room. I asked her "was it round or was it triangle?" She told me that it was round...and thats it. As far as I know that is the only time that she ever saw a ufo. She has been known to have a strong sixth sense, so maybe she tuned in to the vibes or something. -pureharmony (Shannon ) | ||
Lars |
Hello Shannon (PH), Very fascinating, then maybe you are under the watch of an ET race? Maybe you had past lives within an ET lineage? Have you done any past life regressions? If you had past lives within an ET race, you can develop a recall of your previous knowledge and use it in this lifetime as instinctive wisdom. Those who have an ET past have great instinctive wisdom. it appears that they just know how to do things in a more logical, fair, and quicker time frame, than earthians. Earthians make things complicated, take too many shortcuts, (for which then things back fire on them) they also keep getting run mostly by their emotions, which make them highly reactionary, conversely offensive and defensive at the same time! Whereas those truly having an ET past do not exhibit these traits.which proves their higher evolution and possible Et past. Iam convinced that many of an ET past have incarnated on earth to help it advance, as well to mop up any excesses they may have participated in, in distant past lives. There is a Mop-up campaign of sorts going on. Lars | ||
Michael |
Hi Lars, I notice in your post above that you seem to express as facts things which are your beliefs. I don't know if they are true or not but it would be helpful, if you are going to state these thiings as facts, that you provide your evidence and proof. It's not that what you say isn't interesting, it's simply that it's speculation until you establish the validity and credibility of what you are saying. Michael | ||
Lars |
Hi michael How can one establish the validity of a possible Et past to someone to whom it may not concern? One cannot do that... one can never prove the validity or credibilty to anyone by just talk or words.. validity or credibility alone exists in the experience which transpires and reveals certain facts, memories,and events, which may or may not be recognized by either one or several individuals; Take for instance the disciples of Jmmanuel, most of them heard what he said, but then elaborated on it according to their current Jewish sect viewpoints either Pharisee,Saucedee, Essene, or apocraphyl. And only Judas Ischarioth and few others correctly understood Jmmanuel and recorded down his sayings. As another example, if I were to tell you that Ptaah himself came and visited me and let me see his person and he told me by telepathy, I once lived within the Plejaren race on Erra,but I fell from this position due to mistakes and as well because of past ties on earth. How on earth could I ever provide you validity or credibility for this assertion? Think about it... If such did happen and it was my experience alone and no elses,then it pertains only to me does'nt it? If then such an example as this as I have used here be really true and did occurr, the only means I can think of for providing any validity and credibilty for it would be for the contacting party,in this case (Ptaah) would be for him to affirm his visitation to me to Billy without necessarily revealing my name. So do you see how futile it would be for one to try and prove or commend himself in proving a possible Et past life and connexion? Such really cannot be done by the concerned person alone, to just state his experiences and claims. the claims proof of occurrence if valid, lie in an affirmation or acknowledgment from a 2nd party, In this case it would be dependent upon the aliens to affirm and acknowledge the claiment in his claims. This in my mind would be the only way that someone claiming an ET past , could prove it's validity and credibilty. Like Billy said, "you can tell people,this happened now this way, at this time, you can give facts from an analizer and computer,but the truth the people will not believe." Lars | ||
*pureharmony* Shannon Gaul |
Lars, I have never had a past life regression, but I do believe in past lives. I think I will continue this discussion in The Spiritual Teachings/Reincarnation Area- see you there -pureharmony | ||
Michael |
Hi Lars, I think you are actually reinforcing my point. What you are describing is a subjective reality. It doesn't mean that it isn't true, there's simply no way (at this time) of demonstrating it outside of your perception or belief. I suggest that these things are best expressed then as "I believe that..." or "In my opinion..." or "It seems to me...", etc. An example from your post: "Those who have an ET past have great instinctive wisdom." You state that as a fact rather than an opinion, it's an opinion. For the majority of people on Earth the concept of ET life is still more of a science fiction reality and, I think, for most of us who accept the notion, it's still not our own direct provable experience. We have learned from Billy's experiences that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and, though he has exceeded all expectations as far as I am concerned, there are still the debunkers and skeptics for whom it still isn't good enough, for their own complex reasons. Like you and others I have had some unusual experiences, as a matter of fact my current question to Billy seeks to get some light shed on one if he is able to. And, even if my "experience" was genuine I have to see what, if anything, I can do with it in the here and now. I just think we better serve our quest for truth by being clear on stating what is fact and what is speculative, much of Billy's material that was once speculative is now proven to be factual. Much still remains to be proven. As a final thought, it occurs to me that we're all from the "same place" anyhow, i.e. this Creation and its myriad manifestations. Michael | ||
Lars |
Hi Michael, You've brought up some very reasonable observations. Where I mentioned that those possibly having an ET past, have "great instictive wisdom" they just seem to act on or can recall. I mean it in the context of what Semajse said in the 24th Contact: Semjase:Because the spirit exists after the death of the material body, it works upon the achieved results of it's other lives, and fixes these results inside it, in what you call the sub-conscious. Upon taking up the human form of life again, the obtained knowledge and faculty is anchored in the sub-sconscious, and must evolve slowly in the human form of life to help in new lessons and recognitions toward developing conscious talents..." So instinctive wisdom in this life is garnered from the obtained knowledge of the achieved efforts and results of our past-"other lives" As far as the "Mop-up campaign" as I like to call it goes, Billy has mentioned that 144,000 spirits of Lyrian ET past lives are now on earth, and possess an innate higher knowledge, and are under something called a Codex to help repair the damage done in the past. This to me is a part of the mop up campaign, not to mention that there may be others of an ET origin who for some reasons are here now to help in this mop-up campaign. Lars | ||
JAY |
Hi Michael and Lars, I think to my understanding of what SEMJASE is trying to get across to us it could actually be that the subconcious part of the material body here on earth carries out the development of the old life assuming that it was negative or positive and it acts upon it through some form of activation everytime it needs to perform a creative function. It brings out the higher development of a person in the new material body. An example of this would be The Einsteins and many others who have made POSSITIVE developments here on earth. Another thought to this is also the minor impulses in which the PLEJARANS made mention in the contact notes, these may quite well be their connection with the many other higher developed spirit forms who are inventing or creating something in society. I do believe just like they knew Mr Meier to be one of a higher form so do they also know of many others here on earth. BE WELL Michael and Lars JAY | ||
Novina |
I don't really know how it happened but one night I was looking at a star (the first star of the evening) and said I wished to see a ufo in flight. then right from that star came a orange glow moving slowly and then dissapeared. Then I one night I heard in my head a voice we are saurian. I kept saying the work but i was corrected till i got it right It was sauarian. Then the voice stopped. I was taking a shower another day and I heard " you will see me tomorrow" As I was driving down the road. I thought it was a plane. then i slowed down and saw it looked like a hat, very metalic (not white, or gray, but bright) I went to pull over to get a longer look and as i did it was gone.. disapeared. I was up set so I told them that was not fair. that if they wanted me to see them then they would have to show them self to my husband who has the camera at all times. Two days later. My husband went out to his car and heard jet fighters over head, however he never saw them. He saw a ufo. He got out the camera and took a snap shot. then he got a video of it because the camera we have has that option. This was witnessed by 15 other people. Now a voice came to me recently. And it said that I will be visited by one of them. That I would know them when I see them. And it would be when I least excpect it. But there is a word to tell me of some importance. This has not happened yet. So I dont know. In a way I feel as if I am crazy.. but in my heart I know what i saw and heard. There are other things that are strange like a dream I had of a Blonde hair woman and my husband and I floating on our backs upward. This Blonde had a device with lights. I looked at my husband and told him to not get out of hand because you wont like the yellow light when she pushes it. (Ok it might have been a dream) But this is very real.. I saw a portal in my wall I was paralized when I woke up. I saw an enity leave threw a door in the wall that is not a door. I forced my self to tell my husband I saw a ghost. It was much force because I could not move. But willed myself to. Then when I thought on it more I knew it was not a ghost. The feeling I was left with was much of a higher intelectual. (dont know what that was about) The thing is that I have had a visit with Jesus. and it was a much greater impact and lasting feeling than these thoughts and sightings of what I have now. I only hope that I can find out some answers and that you can help me to develop a better communication with Them. If that is what they want. Because I was led to this group by chance. | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi Novina: Very interesting experience, maybe you can post the picture here or maybe send me a copy of your scanned picture, my e-mail address is chiuwang@yahoo.com. If you wish, I would like to know more about this event, like where did it happened? Any direct contact from any out of space race should be treated with extreme care, I would suggest you to contact Mr. Meier directly and send him all the information, maybe he can refer to Plejarans to check it up. Peace. Hampton Chiu | ||
E. Visser |
Hi Novina Fascinating story you wrote.I'm no authority on the matters you wrote but perhaps here's some advice.In order to know who you're dealing with it's best to look at how they do things.How a group or person works gives off some impression off there morals and ethics.A lot of the experiences you describe sounds like your brain was in an altered state (not fully conscious). Knowing what kind of state your brain is in might help to better understand your situation. Good luck. TerraX | ||
Jose Barreto Silva |
Dear Novina, You said in your posting: "The thing is that I have had a visit with Jesus. and it was a much greater impact and lasting feeling than these thoughts and sightings of what I have now." Dear Novina, Jesus does not exist and NEVER existed! Jesus is the AntiLogos Novina! Have you ever read Billy's writings? Have you ever read the Talmud of Jmmanuel? J.Barreto | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Jose and others, Lets go a bit easy on Novina and give this person a chance to read Billy's teachings along with the "Talmud of Jmmanuel". It took me a few years before I really had a good understanding of these things myself. So if someone "new" like Novina comes into this forum looking for answers, we have to do this one step at a time folks. The world is as confusing as it is already and if we jump on these people to quickly, then will only confuse them even more with FIGU & Billy's teachings. Thus these teachings will have a bad reputation of misunderstanding. Then these new people will only go back into the world of confusion and we don't want that now, do we? As politcally correct as the Plejarans & Billy are with the truth of everything, some people just may need a vision or a visit form a Jesus figure just to get on the right path of understanding untill they are ready to see the truth. This has happened to a number of people I already know. Peace, James the truthseeker | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hello Novina ; I really would like to approach this with care and respect , because it seems obvious that you thought that you were visited by jesus . * A word to the regulars of this forum :This is not a good time to pounce and riduicule . This person has perceptions and thoughts like any other , and anything that we have to comment about would be a gradual understanding , at best .* This forum is centered around the information that is availed us by Billy Meier and his contacts. Most of us trust the source of information , because it is credible , makes logical sense , and has not only the ring of truth , but a resounding GONG . ( A gong would be a really large ring .) The idea of jesus with the human race has been for 2000 years highly misunderstood , and because of the intricate workings of the brain , people seem to see and hear things that they recognise . Billy Meier's information about jesus is available on this website and should be easy to access if you do a search .I do beleive that you will find it in a better way if look for it youself , rather than with the howling of those who can't wait to get their comments in . What I will say about it is just this ; If one really cares about what "jesus" REALLY said ,and the truth about him , then she would pay attention to the clear message that Billy has to give . If you discovered that jesus's message had been highjacked ,stolen by his enemies, altered ,and falsified to serve his enemies , then you might be glad and feel priveleged to learn that the truth about him , and his message is now available to the people of earth . Of course , this revolutionary information will be fought and denied with reactionary frevor ; it's only to be expected . Please feel welcome here on the forum , and I for one ,am really glad that you have shared your remarkable experience with us . Thanks , Mark | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Novina, I/We appreciate your sharing your experiences with us. Jose is technically correct... although in our own symbols, in certain spaces of mind, we often experience "best fit" concepts according to the "best we know" at that time. (This is my own observation, not necessarily FIGU offical info.) It sounds to me like you are possibly presently "open" to all sorts of influences... and their corresponding thoughts/results. If you are inclined, and would like to further discuss this and/or any other such matters, please feel free to email me, or some other person of your choice. Whatever you wish. There might be a reason why you "chose" this particular forum?? Regards, JP | ||
Norm |
Please sign this UFO Petition. Click on Make A Difference http://freedomofinfo.org/index.html | ||
Shannon |
Norm, I just signed the petition. I will try to get some more signatures from people I know. | ||
Norm |
Thanx, we need to end this coverup. | ||
JAY |
Norm, I signed the petition as well and read most of the site as well. | ||
Linda |
Hi Norm and all, In addition to the petition, which I also signed, I would like to call your attention to an online fax system that would allow you to send four faxes to your Congressional representatives and to President Bush. This effort has been ongoing for quite some time now, and calls for open congressional hearings (among other things) and shares the intent of ending this 50 years+ cover-up. If you are interested in participating, go here for further instructions. Also, please pass this link along to others who might be interested. Linda |
