| Author | Message | ||
    James the truthseeker |
Greetings Andrew, Thats yet another first I heard about Billy. I'm not trying to start rumors, I'm just trying to understand the truth of the situation. It may be so that Col. Wendelle Stevens may have being dis-informed himself of the situation concerning Billy and his wife/wives etc. Thus is his present wife his second wife or his first ex-wife etc? Col Wendelle Stevens also explained that these other wives of Billy's were women or wives Billy new from previous lifetimes. I shall contact Wendelle Stevens then to ask where he is getting his info so that such rumors are not spread if they are untrue. Sense Polygamy is illegle in most countries, that sure leaves Billy out of any type of polygamy relationship of the married kind, thus he would have to keep such relationships secret and to himself even if creations laws justify his actions. So for his to do that legally, he would have to stay married to one wife and then have his other mates as independent relationships, but then this would be considered adultry violation of creations laws again of which billy would never do. So that would leave Billy once again with only one present wife, unless he was to marry secretly, of which he more then likely would not do because this would futher jeopardize his mission do to Earthly laws. At this time, I'm now under the impression that such imprudent information was stared from Billy's first ex-wife to Wendelle Stevens. I'll check in with Col. Wendelle Stevens about this. My second qestion, In relation to polygamy, are all women free to engage further in sexual lizbian relationships with each other, weather or not they are single or attached to a man in marriage? Peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Anthea, Andrew... "...the male/positive pole pursues and engages the female/negative pole and not the other way around..." My first/initial interpretation of this entire topic so far would be that: It is "correct" for the male to persue an "available" female through direct physical actions etc. Females, however, do have a way of making themselves available to desireable males. They also release hormones (or whatever) to make themselves attractive to males. They use "sign/body" language, clothes etc. to further attract males, or to "advertise" availability. There is also telepathy and "body telepathy(?)"... in which females play no small part. Also, females (in my experience) have a choice in which male(s) they associate with. To summarize my observations so far: Males take an active physical role in persuing a relationship. Females take a "passive" role in persuing (or accepting) a relationship. In accordance to Natural/Creational laws, are there any corrections/comments/re-definitions required in any of the above? As always, any comments/corrections whatsoever will be greatly apprectiated! JP | ||
Christian Frehner |
Hi James the truthseeker, Regarding Billy and his private life I can tell you this: FIGU does not disseminate information about Billy's personal life nor the personal life of any other FIGU member or non-member. However, as much can be said that, after his divorce from his now ex-wife Kalliope Meier-Zafiriou, Billy hasn't married again. Of course he's aware of the fact that in Switzerland (and many other countries as well) it is not permitted to marry more than one person. Therefore he would never transgress against this law. Regarding polygamy it must be added, however, that the Plejarans are living in accordance with the natural laws that permit a man having more than one wife. Regards, Christian Frehner | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi JP, Yes, there is an "active" role, so-to-speak, but; "A dog remains a dog, regardless of what color it is..." OM - Canon 32 Therefore, it is important for the male to understand this in regards to so-called female "pursuit." The man will always attract a part of what he is. If, in my opinion, he is a vulture on the hunt, then false love causes one eye to turn. And, in my experience, he would be prudent to remember that, sometimes, "the sweetest kitten has the sharpest claws," especially during monthly time. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette | ||
Linda Williams |
Andrew, In my experience, "the sweetest kitten has the sharpest claws" also applies after menopause *s* Or, who was it that said . . . Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn! A "passive" reply from a "non-passive" member, Linda | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Linda, *lol* hahahaha... Yes, dear girl, you are a smart one. Truer words were never spoken, especially be a woman. It is nice to hear them come from you and not one of us 'guys'.  | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings everyone, Concerning relationships, I thought I'd share more of my thoughts to see if anyone else here can relate. Something to think about. Beginning from a very young age, I've had perceptions that relationships would be the best thing in the world as many children would also see from a Disney classic, the girl/woman to be the embodyment of purity and grace, while her prince becomes her guardian of what she embodies. A fairy tail perhaps? or maybe a reminder of how things once were before the age of corruption and overpoulation. Not that things were any better in previous times gone past, but just different in peoples ways of thinking. Though we may think we have overcome our savage ways in a modern society, do not be fooled when taking into concederation the lose of our childrens innocents in a world of alcohol, drugs, sexual offences, increased costs of living along with increased crime. Have women lost their purity at a price for their own independence & have men lost their honer at a price of self importance for personal gain? Despite the odds, I have seen for myself very few women who have successfully maintained their own purity despite having themselves become victims of violence. This seems to be how the Earth is and leaving Earth on a UFO always becomes more desirable as time goes on. Fortunately I still think I can make some possitive differences here because I don't think ETs are going to want to make open contact with us soon for the reasons I've just described. The Plejarans say we don't have soulmates, but perhaps one of the greatest mysteries of life itself is; Why are there only very few people in our lives that we feel extreme love for which seems to exceed the strongest of our sexual desires? I have yet to read anything from the Plejarans as to why this is and how it's possible? I have seen this love to the point where it has pushed me to emotional extremes, only to realize later to my disappointment that such very few women I feel this way for, do not share in these same feelings! It's as though creation itself is making fun of me in a very cruel way or perhaps it's confused. I need to know it's secret and why it likes to do this to me and many others, so that I can resolve the issue and have inner peace. If creation-spirit doesn't want me to experience this sacred love and thus keep me single all my life, then I wouldn't hesitation to pack up and leave Earth on a UFO to find it else where on a more peaceful planet. Not that I will do that at this time, but creation or spirit seems to want to keep it that way. Enough is enough I say to myself! All comments are welcome! James the truthseeker | ||
Lars |
Hi James, My thoughts on what you bring up about soul mates are the following: You ask , Why are there only very few people in our lives that we feel extreme love for which seems to exceed our stongest sexual desires? I answer Karma and affinity, we can recieve nothing except we are ready for it, and earn the right to it. As far as women not reciprocating the same feelings back you as you may feel towards them. this is based strictly upon the law of "affinity" and if the women are not developed enough in consciousness they will overlook you. It is not that Creation is refusing you, you have to seek for affinity with other women, who share similar interests and a soul growth about your level, look for and feel for affinity with women and then they will be drawn to you like a magnet. Regards, Lars | ||
Edward |
Hi James..., Well I have always Acknowledged...that there is No Soul-Mate(s)... But Only "True-Love". And In one Incarnation or another you Will... meet Your True-Love-Mate... when it is Time for you to 'Fuse' in One Unity again. I remember reading Billy mentioning that...people that are Single... have the Right to be so.. and be treated as Equal. And that in cases they are bound to this Single existance.. by the situations of their surroundings. So, One Can Not see this as a Bad Karma or others. Just that the Right-Moments have Not Arrived as of yet. See it as Creation experiences it:'Having a Sleeping Relationship'. For you to gain More Insight and Wisdom...on your own Pace...and Freedom. Your Space/Room...for the Time Being. If your time is there.. for your True-Love to enter your life... she Will be there... as the Time Is Ripe..for this Manifestation. If she is 'Like-Minded'... you are very Blessed... but if she is Not.., But eager to Learn(from you).. this is a Blessing also.. which can Balance Both your relationship... into Harmony. And as Lars stated.. 'Affinity'... which can play a leading roll. And ofcourse... Creation is Not Refusing. It will be there... when it is Time. But do not foreget... You your self... will have to make/take those steps.. toward that Destiny. If you have not gained a Relationship with your True-Love-Mate... in this Liftime... do not feel with grieve and sadness. In This Lifetime.. you have Gained... Very Much Valuble Wisdom and Knowledge. And if it be.. in your next incarnation.. you will Not have a Sleeping Relationship... but a True relationship with your True-Love. "All the pieces of the Puzzle... Fits in It's Place.. in the end!" Edward. | ||
James the truthseeker |
Thanks for this information, If I'm ment to be single all my life here, then the best thing I can think for myself would be to leave the panet with a group of ETs so that I can travel space and explore the universe with them. What better ways to learn the laws of creation first hand and not worry anymore about Earthly things. I do not have family obligations and thus would like to make a special request to Billy and the Plejarans for this opportunitly to come about. Maybe I can be with the ETs making crop-formations. From a very early age, I've always felt within myself the kind of woman I would know to be in a relationship with. I have met very few women that I've felt an affinity for, but for some reason these woman would always feel an affinity for another guy of which they always married in the end. If I have to be single because there is something I need to recognize, then creation ain't telling me what this is, not to mention this whole planet "feels" wrong. I know we have alot of problems in the world, but even the so called good things in society feel wrong to me, such as wealth, sports, cars, houses, bars, etc. It's not that people shouldn't enjoy these things, but rather it just dosen't suit me. I live hear and I'd like to make it a better place, but this just isn't my world. For people who really love hard adventures, drama and challenges which is OK, then Earth is their world as alot of people like it here. Concerning affinity itself, I'l like to know more about what this is. Peace, James the truthseeker | ||
Edward |
Hi James, I have felt tha same way as you many many times...concerning our world..and say to my self:'Oops...Wrong Planet!' Well, Wrong planet of not...I am here...and have to make the most of it...with or without female-mate. Sure..I have thought many times..'Sure ET's...take me for a Ride...and from this world...of so many Low Evolved Human beings'. Yes, if One is alone and has no obligations it would be indeed Grand...to Explore the Universe and Creation as Billy has. And for earth and all it's social..manifestations..as you mentioned..is just that there are just too many Spirits..that have to Experience this Level of Evolution. And this does have to be taken..Step by Step..or as a child would do...'Crawling'...at it's own pace. Best that One can do...is to..Share the Spiritual Knowledge that One has with people...and make them Aware. Concerning Affinity... your definition of this...is in it's place. Edward. | ||
Claes Elmberg |
Relationship and Advantages of beeing single! Hello all, Women seem to be more sensitive than men in general, concening picking up our vibrations. When or energies are relaxed and positive we become attractive. I have experienced many times in the past that when I have been feeling down and been a bit desperate for a mate, most women kept their distance and show no interest in me. Other days when I was in an excellent mood there would suddenly be several women interested in me. I feel that I have learnt from previous mistakes in relationships so now I will rather stay single for the rest of my life unless a good match naturally comes in my way (and if we both feel this affinity). Beeing single has many advantages: - More time to study without distraction (there is so much to learn) - Be connected to the net all day and night - Less need for planning to meditate without disturbances - I can live more spontaneously, don’t need to tell anybody where I’m going or for how long. - Travel to the Figu center or otherplaces of interest. I’m sure it's great to be in a fulfilling relationship and there will be lots of learning from any relationship. Semjase says to Billy in the 41:st contact 31 December 1975(from W.Stevens translations book 2, p.114): “When two creatures live togeather as a unit, then differences of opinions necessarily arise. …… With us , like everywhere else, all creatures are different in their evolution, thus at no time do two of them meet togeather, two like-directed poles, which would mean a decrease and a shifting-off of the evolution. So always two different-oriented poles have to come togeather if an evolution is to progress. This means that these two poles constantly rub each other, by which two different opinions push togeather; in consequence of which, for purposes of evolution, differences in opinions have to appear. This is an irrevocable law of evolution, to which we as well as all other creatures in all universes are subjected.” Maybe that’s why we are some times attracted to our opposites because there is a great potential for learning (the affinity could still be present). If you feel lonely, get a pet It’s interesting learning from watching animals and nature. I have some goats and sheep and they all have their own personality, likes and dislikes but in many ways they are more natural than we humans are. I think that when we live in a world which we don’t like or have a hard time to accept, then there is also great potential for learning, developing self dicipline, learning to accept others as part of the same creation as ourselves. See it as a Challenge! It’s like the negative is what rubs against the positive for us to evolve. Like if some thing is OK we are not pushed to improve it and we lazily let it be (->stagnation), but if something is not good that can drive us to make it better(->evolution). I find Figus suggestions for selfdevelopment are excellent to improve ones life and attitude.(Meditation, walking in nature, positive daydreams, study and contemplation) And like Billy writes in Desiderata, that by listening even to the foolish and ignorant we can learn something. Maybe by speaking with the persons that really push our buttons and irritate us is a great opportunity for selfdevelopment (when we feel up to it). greetings, //Claes | ||
Claes Elmberg |
Correction of excerpt of Semjases comment: The part after the first sentence (“When two creatures live togeather as a unit, then differences of opinions necessarily arise.) which I quoted from W stevens Book Message from the Pleiades Book2 was not clearly translated. In Guidos book "And Yet They Fly" it is translated as follows: Semjase: "As with us and others elsewhere, all life forms are different in their evolution, just as two "like" poles will never be found together. This would signify a degeneration and termination of evolution Therefore, two opposing poles must always meet for an evolution to take place. Both of these opposite "poles" will inevitably grate against one another and different opinions will clash. So, for the purpose of evolution, differences in opinion must arise. This is an irrevocable law of evolution which we and all other life forms of the universe must align with." Taken from, "And Yet...They Fly! bottom of page 44 Sorry, //Claes | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings, From my observation of feeling affinity in the past, the women I liked did have simularities but also did have differences that believe it or not were desirable. What I like to know from the Plejarans is what brings about this "affinity" we may feel for another. Absolutly none of the women I felt this affinity for had an interest in UFOs, for example, yet their was something about them that really got my attention and these woman were very few and did have different personalities to mine. This only adds to the mystery. Quite a number of women have being interested in me, but their just wasn't any "spark" or "buzz" and most were considered very attractive physically and sexually. No human 2 human beings in the universe is the same and to imagine as such would seem quite strange. Example, imagine falling in love with and opposite sex clone of yourself with an identical personality! I'm very much aware of the advantages of being single and perhaps the best kind of relationship is one of shared wisdom and tolerance, with a renewed veriety of added interests from each other of likes and dislikes, and that is fine. Also a planet withought smoking, drinking and drugs is a planet for me with some added space travel to go with it. You see some cars can be really cool, but a beamship beats them all. Yes, I'm a real Trekki! Though it is good to have opposite polarity of mates, should we not have mates at the same level of spiritual evolution to us. I remember reading somewhere that the Plejarans use added brain acid to their mates to bring them to the same level of spiritual evolution to each other. Peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker | ||
Teri H. |
Hello, I have never really felt as if I belonged anywhere on this planet eather, yet I am here and therefore I am supposed to be, as is everybody else. As far as relationships go it is not neccesary to have a 'mate' in order to evolve spiritually. On the contrary, it may very well be a lesson of evolution to go it alone. The term 'affinity' designates a 'mutual' attraction. Therefore I would think that what you, James, are feeling is more likely simple attraction. If the feeling is not reciprocated than it is not an 'affinity'. You stated above: "Why are there only very few people in our lives that we feel extreme love for which seems to exceed the strongest of our sexual desires?" Why do you feel the need to express this feeling using the term 'strong sexual desire?' I know that you are indicating that this feeling exceeds that, but sexual desire is purely 'physical' feeling no matter how virile and strong it is and has very little to do with a TRUE Spiritual relationship, let alone having anything to do with Love. The Plejarans come together with the opposite sex when their interests are alike and a Spiritual attraction occurs. Then the process is quite long for them to actually come together in any real 'physical' form. This is because they wish to be assured that the union is TRUE and will stand the test of time. We here are so fickle and waste so much time and energy on relationships that never should have occured to begin with because they were based more on simple, yet often strong, 'physical' and 'mental' attractions and not on a true 'affinity'. If this is meant to come for you, than it will, James. But a watched pot never boils. The more we grasp at a ball that is just out of reach, the further away it rolls. When you can see yourself with a woman, for the rest of your life, without physical gratification but with a True 'affinity' for the same desires, ie: Spiritual Evolution, than perhaps she will appear for you, when you least expect it. | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Teri, I would agree that is is not neccesary to have a mate in this life time, but concerning the issue of "affinity", this may not always have to do with just wanting to find a mate, such as a person who may already be married yet latter feel an affinity for someone else, or someone feeling single who may for some unknown reason may feel an affinity for an already married person, then there is the so called one way affinity type feeling where one person may feel it, yet the other does not. In my case, I may not want a partner now or in the future, yet may feel an unknown affinity for a woman who just happens to be happly married. Secondly, I can also say that when I felt this affinity, I offen do not feel any sexual urges towards that person what so ever, because to feel as such, feels like a dishoner to the affinity I feel and to the other person. As such this affinity is by far much stronger then just a sexual attraction or urge, so I can't say that it really has anything to do with sex in itself. Weather we call it "infatuation, crushes, puppy love, etc", I can also say that many people, myself included, will experience this affinity in life as early as children, long before they get older to experience a sexual desire. Salome, James the truthseeker | ||
Teri H. |
Greetings to you, also, James, I understand a little better now about your feelings. I just had a question for you. Have you ever felt an 'affinity' for another male?I am a heterosexual female and I have, thus far, only found 'affinity' with one person in my life. This person just so happens to be another 'woman'. There is no 'sexual' desire between us, but we do desire to be in close contact so as to be able to interact on a more direct energetic level. We are 'connected' Spiritualy and we are usually aware of each others physical and mental state, ie: if she is ill I am ususally aware of it and vice versa. If she is sad or happy, I ususally feel it also. We are not presently in close 'physical' proximaty to each other and our only physical contact is via telephone, as she resides about 2500 miles away from me. I often times know when she wishes for me to call her and also when I will have a message from her on my telephone. Perhaps I am mistaken, but this is what I call an 'affinity'. PEACE, Teri | ||
Philip_george Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2003 |
I think the word "affinity" is the wrong word. The word "love" is more accurate. Bruni of the FIGU told me once that Billy told her there are 169 different types of "love" among humans. These could be "love of our partner", "love of a teacher", "love of a ruler", "love of a country", "love of a friend", "love of a transportation system", "love of a novelist or novel", "love of music or a musician", "love of words", "love of travel", "love of a game" etc. Each one is different and cannot replace the "love" we have for something else simply because it's all just "love". | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 489 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, As I understand, the natural laws support the idea of a male may have more than one female as his mate/wife. It seems in earlier times on this planet, and possibly today in remote areas, that this way of life was lived and accepted. Where did the current idea come from that men were only allowed to have one wife, and anything beyond that was considered illegal? I can only imagine this idea had its roots in some religious belief, but when or where I'm not really sure. Anyone have any further information-Thanks Salome Scott | ||
Jay Member Post Number: 270 Registered: 01-2002 |
Scott, The Muslim religion had always allowed for more than one wife, this is one example. This practice was also held under controlled conditions as well. A male Muslim can marry more than one except he will also need to be responsible financially for them as well. In general one is suffice depending on your status. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Phaethonsfire Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 01-2004 |
The Natural Creative Laws and Directives provide the possibility for a man to have multiple wives depending on his ability to support a certain amount of wives in a required material and spiritual ways, and depending on his spiritual development. The Natural Creative Law of Polygamy provides that a woman or women in a polygamous bound is only given ONE man because of the reason that a woman can be impregnated by one man only at one given time. So it’s against the Natural Creative Laws that a woman has multiple men. On the other hand, a man can impregnate multiple women at the any given time. This is the Natural Creative Law of diversity and survival that makes sure that: 1. The risk is reduced that when one of his wives die or becomes infertile, that one of his other wives can continue the family lineage, this is a security law of Creation. 2. Offspring from multiple wives won't normally intermix until the 7th lineage so there is no inbreeding which ensures a purity of the gene pool. Inbreeding before the 7th lineage can cause a degradation of the gene-quality. The women in a marital polygamous union have the choice to be with either their husband and with his other wives(s), which means that women are by nature bi-sexual, although it's totally possible that a woman is heterosexual and only has sexual connections with her husband, or is bisexual and has sexual connections with her husband and his wives(s), women are free in this, so they don't have to behave bisexual if they aren’t bisexual. The female bisexuality has its natural grounds in the fact that a woman can 'fertilize' another woman by psychological means in the case of emergency, by means of a psychological connection which will cause the process of autogenesis in a woman which means that an egg will start to grow out of itself into a child without the need of a male sperm. This child will be female however. This is a rare occurrence, but possible in every fertile woman. The fault of this mis development is the Christian religion which proclaims the monogamous marriage as in = one man, one wife. This is a misunderstanding and false teaching of the Natural Creative Laws and Directives. It is so that a union between a man and his wife is based on true love that is monogamous in the way that no one comes between them, or a man or a woman. However a man can have several of those monogamous unions that compose a polygamous union. One of my early posts describes this in detail. The Christian cult-religion teaches monogamy and denies the man his Natural Creative right to have more then one woman as his wife. In the man, this natural urge is existent, but varies from man to man, so there can be a man who desires only one woman, but there are also men who would like to have multiple women, this totally depends on his spiritual and psychological development. A man does not have to be in a polygamous marriage if he doesn’t want to. Rape, marital infidelity and prostitution find a major part of their existence in this false Christian teaching, the male's right to polygamous union is suppressed and his natural desire comes to expression in an uncontrolled fashion. Nowadays, neither the man or the woman is fit to be in a polygamous union, because the man would be in a polygamous union mostly for the sake of his sexual needs, which is in fact just a tiny part of a polygamous union because a man has a lot of responsibility in such a union, and by far, at present, most men are not fit for this kind of responsibility. On the other hand, the Christian false teaching has caused a deep and illogical jealous thinking and feeling in most women, which would cause lots of fighting and stress in a polygamous union causing its possible break up. In the end, a lot needs to be re-learned about the Natural Creative laws before polygamy can be re-introduced on Earth. (Message edited by jacob on July 26, 2011) Jakobjn Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Michael_d Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2003 |
Just wondering, in a world where polygamy is practiced, does the birth rate of males/females naturally adjust as the number of polygamous marriages increase? What I mean is, if the ratio of males/females is 1:1, then for every polygamous marriage with one male and two female partners, there would be a male that could not marry. As the number of polygamous marriages increase, and as the number of female partners in each polygamous union increase, there would be more males denied access to a female partner. In the extreme, if the distribution of males and females of marrying age is equal, and all females are in a polygamous union with one male and five females total, then 4 of 5 (or 80 percent) of the males would be without a partner. This scenario seems to me more likely to invite the expression of uncontrolled male sexual activity than a monogamous civilization where all males have greater access to female partners. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 545 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, If it is true that many humans are living in false love in regards to relationships, what is everyone supposed to do? I’m wondering if universal love is the same as real love? Does a person/being have to possess universal love to experience real love for another? Is false love a result of religious influences, or is it a result of our stage of evolution? Possibly overpopulation is partially the result of false love, in the sense that people think they love another, but really this is a sexual love which leads to pregnancy… Any comments? Salome Scott |
