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Memo00 Member
Post Number: 131 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:20 pm: |
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hello to all i hope you are doing fine Billy has said that as part of our hygiene, we must shave the pubic hair, does somebody knows if in any of Billy´s books there is a more profound explanation about this??? (why not the beard??? or the hair in other parts of the body like the legs or the armpits??? what kind of virus, bacterium, fungus or parasites do we avoid by doing this???) and, does somebody knows if Billy or the plejarens have ever mentioned why commonly the men use shorter hair and the women use long hair??? (below the shoulders) (even Billy´s contact persons and other ETs like the ones from Proxima Centauri that contacted a german Globetrotter) thanks take care |
   
David_chance Member
Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 11:10 am: |
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Hi Memo00, If you have the Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte volumes, there is a discussion about the removal of pubic hair in Contact 179. I would suppose that this is also discussed in the book Direktiven: http://shop.figu.org/product_info.php?cPath=21_29&products_id=46 Kind regards, David |
   
Norm Member
Post Number: 706 Registered: 02-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 07:48 am: |
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From what I understood they don't shave, they genetically alter themselves so that the hair won't grow where they don't want it to. I'm sure when we master this ability it will be like going to the dentist. |
   
Joseph_emmanuel Member
Post Number: 74 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 01:19 pm: |
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What's all this talk about shaving pubic hair? A woman isn't a woman without her pubic hair, but a girl; and any man who prefers women shaved down below prefers girls. So Billy says it's unhygienic. Billy says a lot of things, just like me. And I say hair is natural on a woman and a man, and if it is natural it must be suitable. Plejaren women without pubic hair, eh! Sounds like a fantasy to me... |
   
David_chance Member
Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 04:27 pm: |
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Hi Joseph_emmanuel, Removal of the pubic hair is also practiced by Muslims, done according to the teachings of Muhammed. There is information about the removal of body hair as practiced by various cultures here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=122411 |
   
Cpl Member
Post Number: 86 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 05:49 pm: |
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I would agree that this has more to do with hygene. The base of the spine and around the anus particularly are areas that become unclean due to bodily excretions. Recent water jet toilets help but hasn't the US gov't made those unavailable to most Americans through some bureaucratic act? The body also sweats in these areas which are covered all day. It is logical these areas would and do become potential breeding grounds for bacteria. I had the natural urge to trim my pubic hair long before I read about the Plejaren material on this subject. Shaving sounds a bit risky, so I rather like the idea of genetically removing it. Your preferences are that way, Joseph, no doubt due to upbringing and experiences in the formative and mature sexual years of your life, so it's natural for you to feel that way. But if you'd grown up in a society where no one ever had pubic hair it would probably seem much better than the pubic-haired species who risk walking around with excrement smeared (albeit slightly) and sweat covered crutch hairs all day. Our current biologists tell us that one of the functions of pubic hair in animals is to collect and magnify the smell of crutch hair. It is known to be a sexual attractant in some animals. This could be another reason why you, and especially the young, might regard it as a plus. But in maturity these odors serve no purpose and are then frankly unhygenic serving no positive purpose. |
   
Edward Member
Post Number: 501 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 03:17 am: |
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Hi All.. What I can remember from studies concerning our world peoples and all their tribes; is that it seems that man has always been a Hairless type of Creature. And that the hair growth come to greater proportions throughout his existence. It is well documented, that the American Native's ancestors did not have much, or even non hair growth on their body at all, in their past. And through the centuries, they, just like many other races of people that populated America, mixed their people(s)(direct or indirect) with a much more hairy type(s) of people(s)(Europeans) and thus, generated their hair growth to their generations to come...offspring. But even through non mixing of peoples, it was concluded, that man can have an increase of bodily hair growth..by his Evolution Pattern. Thus, I draw from this the conclusion...that this, being Hairless, is "More Natural"...than Man accepting the fact, that being Hairy is more natural. The same scenario, I have come across with the African peoples, Asians, Aboriginals and many others. Thus, I take it, that being Hairless...is just going back to our Roots of being...concerning our bodily hair. And thus, of course, it has its purposes. Mainly, for Hygienical purposes and so forth.... A Non-Hygienical body is always more susceptible for all kinds of illnesses. So, I would think, when we Earth humans reach the point of existence to Modify our own (bodily) hair growth process(ing) by genetic-manipulation, just like the Plejarans, we would do the same. And profit from its advantages. Memo: Men having to have a shorter hair length than a women, is just that we are "Spoon fed" that it should be that way. This is mostly common in very Conservative groups of people. I went to a Christian school here, and in the hippie days I went along with that long hair fashion, but of course One had to cut his hair or be Kicked out of school... So, I just gave them an answer like: "Well, JESUS had LONG HAIR, didn't he? So, why can I not?" So, they thought I was a Smarty Pants... So, as you can notice, it is just in which type of population group One may manifest in. They are either Opened-Minded or Closed-Minded. To me, it does not matter how One wears his or her hair. But it seems, there are people that would rather Categorize men in having short hair and women with somewhat longer hair lengths. As long as the hair is kept in good and healthy Hygiene, there should be no problems what so ever. Just my opinion. Edward. |
   
Memo00 Member
Post Number: 132 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 07:01 am: |
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hallo to all thanks for your responses does anybody knows why men use short hair and women long hair???????? (i know that in many cultures it is not necesarily like this, but i also know that many of them have been influenced by the "gods" and their habits are not necesarily "natural" or hygienic, and if there exists a civilization that lives according to nature and DON´T CARE ABOUT "FASHION" it is the plejarens) for some it may seem like a childish question, without importance, for me it is simply one of those things that everyone just accepts like zombies without ever asking WHY??? i have my own ideas about this but i would like to hear what others have to say, specially if Billy or the plejarens have ever talked about this
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Scott Moderator
Post Number: 619 Registered: 07-2000
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:30 am: |
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Hello, If my memory serves me, I do remember Guido Moosbrugger stating one of the benefits of having a beard is that the hairs on the face act a small antennas attracting the universal life force energy. There are also other reasons mentioned in the OM as to the wearing of beards. Regards Scott |
   
Edward Member
Post Number: 503 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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Hi Scott.. Yes, that is correct what you've mentioned. I do remember that. Good for you to have mentioned this. Edward. |
   
Memo00 Member
Post Number: 132 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
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if thats true then it would explain why in our unconscious (in dreams etc) a "wise man" it is represented as an old guy with long beard it is also curious that the popes and the cardinals do not use it (during the past month they were almost everyday on TV and i didn´t saw even 1 with beard, hahaha) |
   
Eric_drouin Member
Post Number: 73 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 08:42 pm: |
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Hello: Beard, attracting universal force energy??? Which energy this is? I don't understand. Perhaps someone can explain me ;) Salome Eric |
   
Joseph_emmanuel Member
Post Number: 75 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 10:54 pm: |
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“Removal of the pubic hair is also practiced by Muslims”! Hah! Like that means anything to me. I can’t say that it surprises me that Muslim men encourage their women to shave their pubic hair (I assume you mean the women? Somehow I don’t think Muslim men would do likewise. That would offend their masculinity, I am sure). Muslims also believe that men should only grow the beard and not the moustache. The reason for this is because when one is eating, often bits of food get trapped on the upper lip. There is logic in this. But no doubt Billy doesn’t agree seeing as he sports the whole patriarchal look. And of course his sheep bah in favour. And what about cunnilingus? Don’t the Plejarens practice this? Or is oral pleasure unhygienic also? If it isn’t, and they do, it may just be unhygienic for men who have full grown beards. But again I have no doubt that Billy has ruled this off his list of dos and don’ts, and most likely the rest of you too. I don’t want to be disrespectful, but I bet you a thousand English pounds that if Billy and the Plejarens said it isn’t unhygienic to have pubic hair you would all have gone along with that, wouldn’t you? Of course you would! Because what Billy says goes, and so we must try to understand the reasons behind it, in order to be wise and logical. Well logic says hair is natural because it happens to be a part of the human body. If you’re concerned about hygiene, then clean yourselves. Surely that is all there is to it? My preferences aren’t due to my upbringing but to my love of Nature and natural life. You condemn others for tampering with Nature and destroying it, and here you are doing just that and justifying yourselves with reasons you deem to be logical. In the TJ, Chapter 36, verse 5 and 6, it says "Greatness, excellence and beauty rule harmoniously where nature is left to itself. But where traces of human order are at work, there pettiness, disgrace and ugliness testify to alarming disharmony.” I make no exceptions with regards to this statement. But clearly you do because the Supreme Being has spoken, who is somewhat like God around here: his presence isn’t felt, but his words are spread from one end of the FIGU world to the other. Obviously his death is going to pose no difficulty for many here in spreading the word. But on the subject of pubic hair: the removal of it is a violation against Nature and against women, seeing as they are mostly encouraged to do this on this backward planet. And I still hold that men who prefer women this way, hairless, prefer girls instead, nothing to do with hygiene. How Nature creates us is how we are meant to be, and what is created naturally is created with a purpose. Pubic hair has a purpose, and maybe that purpose does have something to do with sweat and moisture around the crutch. Our eyebrows protect our eyes from perspiration. So our eyebrows would also be covered in sweat and bacteria if you have had a hard physical day. Should we remove these also and look like plums? Or should we just clean ourselves, which after all is what we should encourage instead of the distortion of our natural appearance. |
   
Michael Member
Post Number: 462 Registered: 10-2000
| Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 10:44 am: |
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Whoa, Joe, Let's not go off the deep end there. Do you cut your fingernails, bathe, brush your teeth? Will you wear glasses if you need them, hey, what about clothes? Need I mention toilet paper, or kleenex if you your nose runs? And do you hunt down or grow all your food, live in the dark and copulate in the streets? So, what are the choices you make regarding leaving nature to itself? Now that you're the "Supreme Being" spread your words around and enlighten us, we wait with baited (non-adulterated) breath. Best, MH Michael Horn
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David_chance Member
Post Number: 59 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 01:46 pm: |
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Removal of pubic hair is practiced by both Muslim women AND men and is done according to traditions of the prophet Muhammed (see the Hadith). It is not true that Muslim men do not grow moustaches because they do, though there is the practice of keeping the moustache trimmed short for hygienic reasons. |
   
Jplagasse Member
Post Number: 333 Registered: 09-2000
| Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 09:25 pm: |
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"...I bet you a thousand English pounds that if Billy and the Plejarens said it isn’t unhygienic to have pubic hair you would all have gone along with that, wouldn’t you?" You lose!! If i send you my address, will you send me a cheque?? The so-called "Meier people" I've had the privelege of getting to know are a LOT more independently thinking than this. Stuff said even by Meier is stuff which is contemplated and thought about, NOT stuff which is taken as "gospel". Took me years to finally realize this... Just an observation, JP |
   
Markc Member
Post Number: 188 Registered: 06-2000
| Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 11:40 pm: |
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It seems that someone has you by the short and curlies . No disrespect intended , of course . Mark Campbell
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Scott Moderator
Post Number: 620 Registered: 07-2000
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 09:06 am: |
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Hi Joseph, Take this any way you like, you stated: "And what about cunnilingus? Don’t the Plejarens practice this? Or is oral pleasure unhygienic also?" Here is the an unofficial translation from the OM Canon 32, Verse 332- The holiest place of the righteous wife is the hairless shame, to it should be devoted the husband's greatest physcial love, and be kissed in love and respect, for it bestows the greatest love, greatest respect, greatest joy, the only conception, the only becoming and the only issuing forth of human beings. Then again, maybe your comments were intentional to bait everyone into a discussion, why don't you tell us? Regards Scott |
   
Joseph_emmanuel Member
Post Number: 76 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 01:50 pm: |
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Michael, David, JP, Mark, Scott I would love to sit in cafe with you all talking about all the things we discuss on this forum over a coffee or tea. I reckon it would be inspiring and enlightening. I'm just being me, a cantankerous fool who, every now and then, speaks (or writes) without thinking, and enjoys drawing others in to the argument. It's the flip side of my personality. When I'm not like this, I'm thinking without speaking (or writing). But thanks for the laugh, anyway. Michael, surely shaving your pubic hair is not the same as cutting your finger nails, bathing and brushing your teeth, although I understand your point? David, I knew Muslims practiced some ritual concerning the moustache for hygienic reasons. I don't understand why they don't do the same with their pubic hair instead of shaving it completely. Wouldn't that be more attractive than no hair. A vagina without hair seems faceless to me. JP, my email is jec@aug2469.fsnet.co.uk Mark, that someone is myself. What is short and curlies, anyhow? Sounds suspiciously like pubic hair. Scott, it's a shame that translation is unofficial. It's beautiful. I'm going to copy it and then maybe frame it. But I may change hairless to hairy. And why does it refer to the hairless shame? Indeed it should be kissed in love and respect. I like that very much. I'll go down on my knees and worship it. Joseph |
   
Mdaglioglu Member
Post Number: 18 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 03:14 pm: |
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Hi Joseph, As I have grown-up in a muslum country, not everybody (only say twenty percent in my country) grows both beard and moustache. The odd of men with beard and without moustache is the same as in any other country. The men, who grows beard and moustache for religion washes their face along with beard and moustache five times a day. Because it is one of the five commandments(namaz and abdest). To grow pubic hairs is against to the tradition, is strongly frowned upon and everybody finds it disgusting at least in the community where I have grown up. Imagine how you and your partner feel in an intercourse if partners do not brush their teeth. This is much more stronger than that. It has nothing to do with masculinity. And in my opinion what Billy and Plejaren say is like what my elder brother/sister, my parents or my teachers say. I respect the advice but I am free to obey and disobey. When you say: "How Nature creates us is how we are meant to be, and what is created naturally is created with a purpose.". It is your opinion and as I see your way of defending it is an attachment to the result/belief. Ignoring to be open-minded. Peace, Murat |
   
Tjames Member
Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |
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Yes Joseph emmanuel, Sometimes I speak without thinking too. And thinking without speaking, well, sometimes logic is best used in silence or at-least by listening. But here I go stepping up on the soap-box to give a speech, so I will step right on down. But before I do, I would like to suggest, quite frankly if I may: learning how to speak and think coherently and in conjunction with logic seems to be what the Meier contacts are all about. So my suggestion is why don't we use this vital and so extremely important mode of communication we call the Figu forum and make the best of it, lest we take it for granted. Not to put the load on you because that would be plain silly but I feel a true and deep sense of urgency emanating within this congregation of truth seekers to do what is right and carry on the message spoken from afar, by living the example for the next era to pass on. Maybe I'm going off the deep end here myself but I feel now more than ever the necessity to continue evolving as truly thinking concious human beings. So it makes me feel sad to know that the people interested (or seemingly so) in the most important case in history can't even get along...!? I hope to anything worth hoping to that we find some truly deep hearted individuals who will fight (not in the context of not getting along) not only for truths existence but for its wholeness in purity! In the spirit of truth, Salome, Tim James |
   
Scott Moderator
Post Number: 621 Registered: 07-2000
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 11:12 pm: |
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Hi TJ, Thanks for you comments, very well said. Regards Scott |
   
Tjames Member
Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 11:25 pm: |
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Hello friends I have something to add, From experience I have found that shaving although risky and uncomfortable at first can be very rewarding. (Sorry to all whose stomach this churns) I will breifly explain with an easy example. Have you ever slipped on a mossy rock? Or held a mossy rock, or tried to scrape moss off a rock? Regardless of your answer algae does know. (Silly enough) which you might already know that moss grows on any surface and in any environment that is suitable for growth. Studying a tad of Molecular Biology I've noticed that warm moist enclosed environments are ideal for growing bacteria, but this being a comparison to your genitalia is not something we can solve immediatly, so i would assume that the temp, heat, and moistness may not be an issue that we can solve. But, i do think that the surface is. So, just like the mossy rock, if you wanted to get the moss off of the rock someone might flip over the rock or simply set it in the sun. People in our current society unfortunately may not be able to get away with exposing their genitalia in public to bake off the goodies. So, instead something that one could possibly do is alter the surface of that rock so that it may not slip as much. For humans this could simply invlove trimming or shaving the area so that there is actually less material for bacterium to "grab" onto, logically making it easier to keep clean. Moss does serve a good purpose in nature, like oxygen, shelter, and food for creatures but even nature has its ways of balancing out the growth. So the fish, slugs, crawfish and other things large and small utilize the moss but keep it within reason. That is if man is reasoning along natures side. However our goal as a human species is not to reselmble a miniature model of earth and let every last bacterium thrive in and on our bodies simply because "it grew that way". But just like earth has evoveld methods for balancing the population of organisms. We have evolved to a state where we must be mindful of ourselves and of our consequences. The consequences being: some curable but otherwise spreaded bacterial infection, discomfort, body odor(more than would be with minimal hair). On a differnt chord I have struck myself on this issue before with my ex step-father who is a full practicing Muslim. He has only a short mustache and from word of mouth I have heard him say (regarding pubic hair).. I shave this because I need clean man. Pretty straight forward, huh. Thank you for reading, Salome: Tim James |
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