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    JAY |
Hi Frodomccall, As interesting as your opinions are and some of this information you posted I have heard before, The Board discussion here is about Races, Racism, rights, please try posting these opinions within our miscellaneous sections of FIGU system. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 571 Registered: 02-2000 |
Don't mention that Mussolini saved Jews: it is Politically Inconvenient to do so "That a right-wing dictator could save Jews is the sort of information that has not been allowed to enter the Anglo-Saxon consciousness because it is politically inconvenient. Politically Convenient historiography does not take account of shades of white and black. No grey is allowed. Once it is agreed that someone was a right-winger, anything good that he does is either not emphasised or it is suppressed. It is Politically Inconvenient that Mussolini saved Jews." http://www.lewrockwell.com/spectator/spec90.html | ||
Joseph_emmanuel New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2003 |
It is 22.30pm in London. I have just received an email from my girlfriend about an American conscientious objector who refused to fight the war on Iraq, and is now face court martial and possibly two year imprisonment. His name is Stephen Funk. I don't know how many of you have heard of him. I didn't even know he existed until this evening. But being a frequent visitor to this site I know how you all have stood firmly against the war on Iraq, and how you feel about the political corruption in the world. I am not an activist. I often wish I were. But I like to think that I can make a simple donation on behalf of this individual so that he stands a chance of being freed. Apparently he has a very good lawyer, but more importantly he needs public support, international support even. I hope, therefore, that you can help, and that the moderators of this discussion board can circulate information about this brave young man, who stood against the American military alone, to a greater audience than what I am able to achieve. Please visit the site urging you to do something. It is http://www.notinourname.net/funk/, and take some time to read his appeal below. Thank you sincerely Joseph Emmanuel Support conscientious objector Stephen Funk awaiting military trial on August 11 for "desertion" Please send checks payable to: The Stephen Funk Legal Defense Fund 1230 Market Street #111, San Francisco, CA 94102 Write in support of Stephen's request for immediate discharge as a conscientious objector: § Commandant of the Marine Corps, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, Washington, DC 20380-1775 § Commanding Officer, Headquarters, 4th FSSG 4400 Dauphine Street, New Orleans, LA 70146-5400 (Copy to Legal Defense or to Stephen stephenfunk@objector.org and payday@paydaynet.org - we would post on website) My name is Stephen Funk. I am a Marine Corps reservist who spoke out against the invasion of Iraq. Now I am being charged with desertion, even though I returned to my unit after completing an application for discharge as a conscientious objector. My military court date is scheduled for August 11 here in New Orleans and I am facing two years in the brig. Challenging the war from my position was extremely difficult and I am very proud of my public stance, but now I need your help. I have always considered myself an activist and stand with the oppressed peoples of the world. I was born and raised in Seattle where I joined protests against globalization at the WTO. I moved to Los Angeles for college where I protested for socioeconomic justice at the Democratic National Convention. I have always considered myself an activist and stand with the oppressed peoples of the world. Since high school I have worked with several campaigns for the disadvantaged, political prisoners, and for peace and justice in our communities. I left Los Angeles because I felt the school I attended was too politically apathetic and moved to the Bay Area in hopes of attending UC Berkeley. Despite all this, I was persuaded to join the Marines. Out of school for the first time with depression from the lack of direction and confusion in my life, a recruiter was able to sell me on what I might learn in basic training. Leadership, teamwork, discipline and most importantly a sense of direction and of belonging are what convinced me. It was a decision I made when I was 19 and in a clouded state of mind. The boot camp experience quickly snapped me back into reality, but by that time it seemed too late to do anything. The purpose of military training is to churn out non-thinking killing machines. All humans have a natural aversion to killing, and being forced to shout out "Kill, Kill, Kill" everyday is a major stress on the mind, body, and soul. One must go through a transformation in order to accommodate the unnatural way of life that the military teaches. I, however, resisted and as a result my moral convictions against violence grew stronger. A marksmanship coach told me that I had a "bad attitude", that in a real situation I wouldn't score as well as I did. Without thinking I replied that he was right, because killing people is wrong. It was as if I had taken a deep breath after holding it for two months, and there was no way I could ever go back and "go along with the program". I had figured out that war itself was immoral and could not be justified. Yet everyone told me it was futile to try to get out. We were trained to be subordinate in our thoughts, words, and actions. It's hard to go up against all that, even when you know you are right. In February my San Jose-based unit was called up to support the attack on Iraq. I could no longer just obey. For the next six weeks I kept in contact with my command, explaining why I had not yet reported. I completed my conscientious objector paperwork that I had started earlier, and I attended anti-war protests with hundreds of thousands of others. I spoke out so that others in the military would realize that they also have a choice and a duty to resist In the face of this unjust war based on deception by our leaders, I could not remain silent. In my mind that would have been true cowardice, having a chance to do some good, but playing it safe instead. On April 1, after a press conference in front of my base, I turned myself in. I spoke out so that others in the military would realize that they also have a choice and a duty to resist immoral and illegitimate orders. You don't have to be a cog in the machinery of war. Everyone has the unconquerable power of free will. I wanted those who may be thinking about enlisting to hear and learn from my experiences. Under media attention, the military initially claimed my application for discharge would be handled quickly and fairly, and that I would likely receive only non-judicial punishment for my unauthorized absence. Now that public scrutiny has died down the military says that I deserve to be convicted. I feel I am being punished simply for practicing my First Amendment rights, and they are seeking an unfit punishment to dissuade others from becoming conscientious objectors. I received tremendous positive feedback, even from the enlisted people On base I've been harassed a few times. Some people have told me I'm a traitor, a coward, and unpatriotic. I have also had a few death threats. However, I have also received tremendous positive feedback, even from some of the enlisted people. As my commanding officer explained to the press, "The Marine Corps understands there are service members opposed to the war." I am certainly not alone. I am not an advocate for gay inclusion in the military because I personally do not support military action In writing my application for discharge, I was completely honest about who I am. Part of that meant acknowledging that I am gay. I believe that homosexuals should be able to serve if they choose, and that Don't Ask Don't Tell is an awful policy that only helps the military perpetuate anti-gay sentiment among it's ranks. However, I am not an advocate for gay inclusion in the military because I personally do not support military action. I have a great defender in San Francisco-based National Lawyers Guild attorney Stephen Collier. He hasn't demanded a bunch of money. However, I need to quickly raise enough for travel, lodging, and research. This will cost $10,000 at least. My family and I cannot afford that. Thank you for your support and please forward this to others who may be able to help. Stephen Funk June 26, 2003 This appeal is being distributed by Payday, an international network of men who work with the Global Women's Strike. Contact us at payday@paydaynet.org For current updates on Stephen Funk's case and other news from men and women around the world who are refusing to be killers, see the Refusing to Kill website: www.paydaynet.org Hello Joseph, Since you are new to the forum I just wanted to remind you that we discourage long "quotes". In addition please understand this forum should not be used for the solicitation of money for various causes unless approved by FIGU. I would recommend if people want to contact you directly about this, that might be a better way to go. I will let your post stand, but please in the future shorten your quotations, or put them into your own words. Thanks Moderator | ||
Torrent Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hello, Jakobjn. Would you please help me understand the origin of human races on the Earth? I could find much information in contacts notes (251st Contact covers this issue the best ) in addition to some FIGU books about how the extraterrestrials have affected the births of the current terrestrial races through several major interventions over billions of years, but the whole story is quite complicated. I would like to focus on a few questions for now. 1. How did emigration of those extraterrestrials (both refugge races and Sirius benefactors) affect the natural evolution of original terrestrial races? 2.Were the majority of this refugee group who first arrived in our SOL system white race? If so, when did the major emigration of Asian and African races happen? 3. The contact note says Old Lyrians came to Earth where they later merged with terrestrial human beings. Then did the refugee races also merge with terrestrials human beings? 4. How could we connect those racial mergers to what Talmud of Jmmanuel says? (2. Semjasa, the celestial son and guardian angel of god, the great ruler of the voyagers who traveled here through vast expanses of the universe, took a terrestrial woman and begot Adam, the father of the white human population.) Does it mean that Semjasa was among those old Lyrians, not Sirius benefactors who helped the refugee group escape? 5. I am a little confused about the origins of diversely colored races (except white race). Did those races already exist in old Lyrian times or were they just created during this genetic manipulation process for more combative attributes in Sirius constellation? | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 07-2004 |
I wonder if someone who knows could tell me the age of each of the races here on earth, from the youngest to the oldest race? I'm italian, and would like to know please. black white yellow darkskinned mediterranean | ||
Isabellacoca Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hello phil638, sorry your question is just now getting answered and i hope you do get to this topic to see that i have finnaly answered your question. ok. first of all darkskinned and black is the same thing. Also, the darkskinned is the oldest race. why? because human beings first originated in africa and africa is hot and dry. they were very immobile at the time because they had almost no intelligence. keep in mind the earliest humans were very small and so were their brains. they didn't have much food to eat from so their brains couldn't grow and develop. but of course over time when humans discovered agriculture and food was abundant, the heads got larger. also, their skills and intelligence widened and with that their tools got much better. also, humans started to multiply so when u have a lot of people in your neighborhood, you'd want to go somewhere else for space. so somewhere in earth's human history the humans slowly and gradually started migrating towards Asia. but this took thousands of years. then from Asia towards what is now known as Europe. Now keep in mind, in Asia, the sun is not so hot and its cooler and then it's even cooler and not as much sun and different in europe. when these dark skinned people migrated to Asia, over hundreds of years and thousands, their skin tone changed. their color got paler. this is due to a chemical change in the body, i forgot which. And so Asians, yellow people, was second oldest in race. White was third and medditarian last. Salome and love to all, Isabella Coca | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 03-2004 |
"I wonder if someone who knows could tell me the age of each of the races here on earth, from the youngest to the oldest race?" Please see: www.gaiaguys.net/meierv6p261-262.htm | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 793 Registered: 02-2000 |
Isabellacoca, The Darwin theory is False according to Meier. Most of earths races came from other planets. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 03-2003 |
If I'm correct, there is or was 7 primary human races on this planet, not including Bigfoot. I recall hearing somewhere that the original Earth human race was annihilated from existence and the remaining human races were in fact of ET origin. The Story of Adama and Eva was supposedly the beginning of the white race (excluding ETs), where as the Asian race were the last ones to immigrate here to Earth from Space when they settled here in China and Japan for a second time. Peace in being, James Truthseeker | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi James according to Billy only 2 or 3 races evolve naturally in each planet take care | ||
Spaceman New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2006 |
Where did the Chinese (Mongolian races) originate from? Who exactly were Fuxi (heavenly king), Nuwa (Earthly king) and Shennog (Human king) who according to Chinese scriptures ruled their lands for many thousand years? (Shennog being the longest ruled for 45,600 years). | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 853 Registered: 02-2000 |
Spaceman, Read here,www.gaiaguys.net/meierv6p261-262.htm My Website | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 46 Registered: 04-2006 |
Dear spaceman welcome to the forum. According to our aussie friend : http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv6p261-262.htm 197. The yellow peoples, the Chinese and the Japanese, they are the youngest inhabitants of the Earth, as their appearance on these planets was only a little more than one cosmic age, and indeed seemingly exactly 25,978 years ago. 198. They came here from the planet Nissan in the neighborhood of Lasan in the Lyra system. 199. But before, (and) this was only established in recent years, they lived on the other side of the Sun on a planet with the name Kudra, in a solar system that was named the Nisan system. 200. They came to the Lyra system and to Nisan 2,400,000 years ago, because they had to emigrate as a consequence of overpopulation. 201. And they found the way to our original home planet by means of an old Lyran great expedition flotilla, which journeyed to the other side of the Sun and to the planet Kudra in the Nisan System, and there again encountered the yellow peoples. | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 175 Registered: 12-2004 |
Welcome to the forum Spaceman! Hello, I gathered your answers from the booklet "Attacking questions from Japan concerning freedom, contactees, the F.I.G.U. bylaws, group members error atonement, and other things" which can be purchased for 5 Swiss francs or dollars/ it will be converted to whatever your currency may be, from the F.I.G.U. store just not through debit or credit. Page 16 answer to question #6 "It is correct that the Chinese and the Japanese human races on Earth are very yong. If you calculate backward from the year 1990, they have only settled here on Earth 25,978 years ago, the time that denotes the final colonization on Earth. The background for the appearance of the Chinese and Japanese races is as follows: The two yellow races were created and lived in their original native land on the other side of the Milky Way- on the other side of the central sun of the galaxy, therefore. For this reason it is said that they came from the other side of the sun. Their native system was called the NISAN system, where they lived on planet KUDRA. Planet kudra was discovered by an expedition fleet from Lasan when it left the Lyra systems approximately 16 million years ago to conduct its research and search for human life on the other side of the Milky Way. In the process, the fleet came upon the yellow human KINTEN and Niper races who , on Earth , are now called CHINESE (KINTEN and JAPANESE (NIIPER)." There's alot more so I recommend you get one of your own, but that is part of the answer. Good luck in your search for the Truth and by the way I love the name you chose, Spaceman Tim  Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona! | ||
Spaceman New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 06-2006 |
Thank you Norm, Hector and Tim. All your information was useful. The order of events is what I am confused with a little, however this is how I understood it, correct me if necessary: 16 mya (million years ago): Lyrans find the planet Kudra in Nisan system, they go for research. And find the Yellow people 2.4 mya: Inhabitants of Kudra move to the neighborhood of Lasan in th the Lyra system, to the planet Nissan. ?? yrs ago: They move back to Kudra 25,978 yrs ago (i.e. from 1990): They move to Earth, from Lyra (weren't they in Kudra in the Nisan system, how did they come from Lyra to Earth) | ||
Spaceman New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2006 |
I have other question, concering the celestial beings called the devas of the Indian Mythology. Much of my research concerns the Eastern Myth that I feel are no doubt are stories of beings of other worlds. Who exactly were/are Indra, Agni (of Indian Mythologies) who were associated with forces of nature such Thunder, Lighting (for Indra) and Fire (Agni) to whom much of the Vedas are dedicated. Indra is said to have carried his son, Arjuna (his son with a mortal woman) in a chariot to another world, where exactly was this. Has anyone got information on the subject? | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 176 Registered: 12-2004 |
Just re-read it, it makes sense. I really to not fell like typing the whole response. It is several pages, unless that is alright with the moderator? Moderator, may I type page 17,18,19 of the previous booklet I mentioned, or is saving web space for the server somthing that should be rationed? You may delete this message. Thank You Tim Hi Tim, I'm not sure which booklet you are referring to, but I would prefer you don't type multiple pages. Yes it does take up server space, but long posts tend to be cumbersome and most people won't read them in their entirety. Thanks Scott-Moderator Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona! | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 614 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Spaceman... I see you've made it. And welcome to the FIGU board! Below is an except from - 251st Contact - Part 1 Friday, February 3, 1995, 12:01 a.m. - concerning your question; to make it a bit more official... 'Since the "creator-overlords" were more powerful than the genetically- manipulated individuals those found but one recourse and that was to flee, which they did with help from benevolent supporters in the Sirius regions. At the same time, these supporters secretly decided to exploit the genetically-manipulated people for their own use. Two large, genetically- manipulated peoples fled from the Sirius regions and settled in an area on the other side of the Sun. This meant they landed within, and then inhabited, a very distant part of a remote solar system; indeed, on planets beyond the galaxy's central sun, the sun of the Milky Way. Eventually, however, they were discovered by space travellers from the Old Lyrian lineage, whereupon they emigrated into the Lyra regions. Ultimately, within more recent terrestrial history, they came to our planet, where they settled in China, Japan and other locations, and various new, so-called races formed.' Enjoy your study... Edward. | ||
Spaceman Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2006 |
Thanks for your answer Edward, I wanted to know who the devas of the Hindu (Indian) Mythologies are, Indra, Agni, Surya, who were these beings who were attributed to some element or natural force? Hi Spaceman, There is a small issue with your account. I attempted to contact you by e-mail, but have recieved no response. Could you please e-mail me from the following link: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/board-contact.cgi Thanks Scott-Moderator | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 618 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Spaceman... Concerning the list of names you mentioned in your posting, and the question in general: What I e-mailed you... is all of my known knowledge. Billy's Question string is open now...perhaps you can address the question to him? It is always worth asking? Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 620 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Spaceman.... Billy had in the past a few occasional visits by Taljda. She is a yellow skinned young woman that originates from the planet Nissan, in the Lyra-Vega System. Her ancestry is from the planet Kudra, which is also the ancient home planet of today's Asian Earth races; which is mentioned in the above postings. So, as One can notice: they may have been the last ET race to have migrated and settled here on Earth, but this does not mean that they are the least evolved/in age, of the group (known) that migrated to Earth. As they work in assistants and side by side... with the Plejarans! Edward. | ||
Psycloud New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi All I have been wondering about the Blue-skin people and was wondering if anyone had any information they could share about it. And while were at it, are the furgates from kentucky consider people with true blue skin, or is it only a disorder like some doctors claim. I have seen on this forum somewhere, where billy meets someone in india with blue skin, but is there anymore info about it? Psycloud I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. |
