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Markc
Member
Post Number: 244
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:31 am: | 
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Hi Melli and Memo ;
As I understand it ,the specific lineage of humankind started as a large swamp dwelling amoeba-ish organism that eventually taught itself , or convinced itself that to crawl was a good and interesting thing to do .Eventually it disciplined itself to diversify .
It was never designed to become a monkey , a fish
or anything else than a human being, and it spent a very long time slowly moving in that direction . It was designed to evolve itself by it's thoughts and actions , in a deeper way than an animal might learn or develop .
Once you get an idea what that looks like , and what the reality of it would be , you can build an awareness of the idea that spiritual skills define in a way that multiplies our level of advancement , without boundaries , the 'miracles of legend' , and undoubtedly , a destiny that was self chosen by our lineage , aeons ago .
mark
Mark Campbell
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 06:24 pm: |
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hi mark,
just in regards to this comment of yours - "It was never designed to become a monkey , a fish or anything else than a human being"
how does that fit into intelligent lifeforms out there that aren't human being in appearance?
Con |
Daisy
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 09:46 pm: |
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Consolatio
I believe your refering to intelligent animal life. They evolve the same just are on higher plane of "thought". |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 03:33 pm: |
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hi daisy,
no, I'm reffering to non humanoid looking extraterestial life forms as mentioned in the book "and still they fly". I would like to know if creation designed them to evolve into the non humaniod entities that they are? If anyone knows, I also wouldn't mind knowing what intelligent life form (human or non human) is regarded as being the better life form to be spiritually evoluting in this universe from, or are all spirit entities in this universe all the same underneath and its just the skin the non human life form is using to evolute in this universe from that is different? thx
Con |
Daisy
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 04:23 pm: |
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I'm sure creation is fair and these entitys evolve the same/simularly Consolato. |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 247
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 07:49 pm: |
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Hi Consolato and Melli ;
Since I don't know any higher intelligent animal life forms , I can only answer in a way that seems logical to me .
On Earth our chickens are just as dumb as they are tasty . But on another world , their counterparts may be of a higher evolution due to genetic manipulations , or better conditions , educational experiments by a human race , etc.
Billy knows a being , a walking "fish/frog" looking E.T. from Cygnus , from a pond far ,far away . So these non-human "smart forms" do exist .Maybe she is a form of humanoid , in the Plejaren's phylum categories .
My statement , to begin with , referred only to Earth life forms , their lineages here.
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 06:22 pm: |
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Hi mark,
what about the greys extraterrestials? They are intelligent life forms and they aren't human life forms. Doesn't that classify the greys as not being animal life forms then if they have intelligence like humans life forms do? If so, then doesn't that mean the greys must have a similar intelligent spirit entity residing within their bodies like humans have? If it is, then is the greys spirit entity the exact same spirit entity as the humans spirit entity, and the only difference between the two spirit entities is the material body? And if it is, then is it possible for a humans spirit entity to be reincarnated into a greys material body if a human being happened to die on their planet? Or if the greys spirit entity is different to humans spirit entity, then do you or anyone else know what would happen when both different spirit entities eventually spiritually evolute up to creation. How can two different types of spirit entities merge to be one with creation if they are not the same spirit or doesn't it matter?
Con
ps. I posted a similar post/question like this one before but for some reason it didn't get posted? If its a double post please keep this one and delete first one. |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 178
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 05:20 pm: |
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hi
its supposed that the "greys" are nothing more than androids, so they do not have a spirit
but i think that we would not have any problem to reincarnate in a real human similar to them (if you are 10 m or 30 cm tall, if you have 2 or 4 arms, if your skin is green or blue or have any other anatomical difference you are still human)
i don´t really know which could be the real differences that make an intelligent being capable of spiritual evolution to be clasiffied as "not human" or if its possible for our spirit to incarnate as one of those "non human" beings (not highly developed animals or plants), if they really exist . . .
does anyone can explain?
thanks
and take care |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 248
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 06:54 pm: |
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The greys , as far as my reading goes , are highly developed androids , possibly based on life forms that are humanoid .
Never met one !
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 08:58 pm: |
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hi Memo00,
thx for letting me know that because I didn't know the greys were androids and didn't have a spirit. However, I remember reading in the meier material that not all extraterrestials in the universe are humans. I don't remember where I read this so I would appreciate it if anyone can let me know if this is correct what I read. This is what my post above was in reference too.
Con |
Ascension
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 01:28 am: |
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Yes I remember reading some of billys material that said there are even highly advanced plant life as well as non-human intelligant life. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 716
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 09:45 pm: |
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Hello,
Could this be another version of HAARP?
http://www.eiscat.uit.no/ |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 731
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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Hello,
Our good friends at Gaiaguys have released another translation regarding the anti-ET-campaign which began during the first World War!
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv7p438-444.htm
Scott |
Dplotmach
Member
Post Number: 85
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:36 am: |
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Hi people.
I was thinking about publishing my article in some religious newspapers(at least send it in), but I do not know of any of that sort. Do you know of some? |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 452
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 08:30 am: |
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Hello Dplotmach,
I have some comments on your wishes to publish material in 'religious' newspaper(s).
1. The material posted on this FIGU forum or on any other FIGU authorized website and any part or any translation of any of the books, writings and publications made by FIGU are copyrighted and can not to be used in any means possible without prior explicit written approval of the copyright holder(s).
2. When you do submit any articles out of your own thinking, you must state that this is your own thinking, FIGU has nothing to do with that, and distances itself from any such writings.
These are general FIGU rules, not because of you, Dplotmach, they apply to anyone without written approval.
My own personal advice to you is to be cautious where you submit your articles, if you would write strong anti-religious words you might expose yourself to very aggressive responses from cult-religious people, I am not saying you shouldn’t do it, I am saying to use caution, I would recommend, IF you want to post anyway, to find yourself so called 'new age' newspapers, magazines, etc.
Usually those newspapers and magazines are more open to these kinds of thoughts.
Salome,
Jacob
"If you measure the size of your Ego to the size of your knowledge or what you assume you know, then you should always try to remember that your ignorance is infinitely larger, then any knowledge you have."
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Dplotmach
Member
Post Number: 87
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 08:59 am: |
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Hi jacob,
"1. The official material posted on this FIGU forum or on any other FIGU authorized website and any part or any translation of any of the books, writings and publications made by FIGU are copyrighted and can not to be used in any means possible without prior explicit written approval of the copyright holder(s). "
I assume you did not mean that everything written on the forum is copyrighted? My own posts? Might sound stupid, but one could get the impression of it.
"2. When you do submit any articles out of your own thinking, you must state that this is your own thinking, FIGU has nothing to do with that,"
Of-course I will not state I am a "representative" for the case, I will only publish my own thoughts, and write this explicially. But is it forbidden to show others/give links to FIGU's publications, if one clearly states that they have nothing to do with my own opinions/writings?
I found your post a little unclear about this. You should immediately take a look at my website (freewebs.com/haavardro), and find out if I have done something illegal in FIGU's opinion. In case, I will remove it quickly, just say what is not suitable, and what is allowed.
"My own personal advice to you is to be cautious where you submit your articles, if you would write strong anti-religious words you might expose yourself to very aggressive responses from cult-religious people, I am not saying you shouldnÕt do it, I am saying to use caution, I would recommend, IF you want to post anyway, to find yourself so called 'new age' newspapers, magazines, etc.
Usually those newspapers and magazines are more open to these kinds of thoughts."
Do you mean these aggressive attacks from cult-religious people could manifest themselves in other ways than harsh critique/persecution? Like a "psychic attack" of some sort. Don't know about this.
Thank you,
Dplotmach |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 04:21 pm: |
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International Terrorism
Does Not Exist
By General Leonid Ivashov
1-22-6
General Leonid Ivashov was the Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces when the September 11, 2001, attacks took place. This military man, who lived the events from the inside, offers an analysis which is very different to that of his American colleagues. As he did during the Axis for Peace 2005 conference, he now explains that international terrorism does not exist and that the September 11 attacks were the result of a set-up.
General Leonid Ivashov
General Leonid Ivashov is the vice-president of the Academy on geopolitical affairs. He was the chief of the department for General affairs in the Soviet Union's ministry of Defense, secretary of the Council of defense ministers of the Community of independant states (CIS), chief of the Military cooperation department at the Russian federation's Ministry of defense and Joint chief of staff of the Russian armies.
http://rense.com/general69/ism.htm |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 574
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 04:16 am: |
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Hi Con...
Yes, very interesting indeed!
I had seen him in a documentary concerning the September 11, 2001 attack,
some years back.
Very very astonishing what the man had to say. Washington was not too keen
with his outlets. But again, this man has the Courage to make known: The
Facts, as they really are, and that was also presented to us by Billy and
the Plejarans.
So, General Leonid Ivashov..Surely Hit The Nail On The Head...
Edward. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 769
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 05:56 pm: |
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Hello,
I would like to post a letter which I received today from one of our forum members. It is a letter to the United Nations:
Dear United Nations General Assembly President and All Individual Nation Ambassadors to which I have submitted previous information in regard to the "UNITED NATIONS DECADE OF CONTACT 4D (DISCLOSURE, DECADE OF CONTACT, DISARMAMENT, DIPLOMACY) Resolution",
Previously, I have postal mail submitted the following information items in regard to the above referenced subject matter for your review and comment.
1. A general and introductory letter written by myself outlining my relationship to the intent and goals of the "4D Resolution" with reference to my 26 year long study and investigation of the Billy Meier with Pleiadian/Plejaren Extraterrestrials Contact Case beginning on January 28, 1975 and continuing on presently.
2. A 3 page copy of the "4D Resolution", authored by Alfred Webre of ICIS-Instituite for Cooperation In Space.
3. A copy of the FIGU color pamphlet titled, "Brochure of Photographs, UFOs...", which I have translated from German to English.
I have sent the above information to the following individuals: The United Nations General Assembly President and the Ambassadors from the following nations, republics or principalities: Switzerland, Switzerland(Geneva), Germany, Canada, United Kingdom, Brazil, Australia, Peru, Austria, Ireland, Netherlands, France, Sweden, Grenada, New Zealand, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Japan, Norway, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Greece, Romania, Hungary, Czech Republic, Monaco Principality, Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro, Bulgaria.
After postal mail sending you the above described information, I then sent everyone a follow up email enquiry, offering and outlining, other suggestions and options to become aware of, and learn more, about 'the extraterrestrial presence on Earth, at least in regard to my investigation of the information evidences of the Billy Meier with Pleiadian/Plejaren Extraterrestrials Contact Case. I, at this second, submittal time, email attached information titled; "What The Plejarans Wish For The Human Beings On Earth". This attachment contains 21 statements from the Pleiadian/Plejaren extraterrestrials which are intended for the learning, knowledge and awareness of all human beings of Earth.
Now, with this follow up email, I approach all of you, collectively and simultaneously, who I have previously and individually contacted.
I realize that it is a new and unique experience, for the United Nations General Assembly President and any, or all, Individual Nations' Ambassadors to recognize the reality of 'the extraterrestrial presence on Earth', however, it is in the best interest of Earthhuman life upon our planet to do just this. As the foremost body representing all nations of our Earth, the United Nations is the proper body to move the undeniable reality of 'the extraterrestrial presence on Earth' into public awareness for Earthhuman beings' knowledge, learning and necessary evolvement
Again, as per my previous email follow up to my postal mailing to you all, I attach to this email the document titled: "What The Plejarans Wish For The Human Beings On Earth". As you read the attachment please reflect a moment upon the fact that a very advanced human being is speaking to you individually, directly and seriously from his acquired learning knowledge and that he speaks from a great historical knowledge about Earthhumans. These extraterrestrials know more about Earthhumans than do Earthhumans. The Pleiadian/Plejaren extraterrestrials offer advice in regard to Earthhuman problems but they will not assist Earthhumans in regard to the solution of these. From their advanced evolutionary position of review they offer advice for our review so that we may make wise decisions in regard to the reality of evolving human life on Earth and throughout our universe. It is our responsibility to alter our living conduct upon the Earth so that we can live in harmonious balance upon it and to arrange for responsible, worldwide caretaking of our planet resulting in the achievement of positive, Earthhuman being, evolution. Referring briefly to statements 3, 8,14 and 20 of the 21 total in the attachment, one respectively is advised; (3) that the existing excessive Earthhuman population must be reduced; (8) that Earthhumans must recognize that they are not the only life forms but a fraction of the whole within in the universe; (14) that each Earthhuman should shoulder his or her own responsibility for thinking, feeling and acting and not simply leave this responsibility to someone else; (20) that the human being of Earth has to bear in mind that, in achieving individual evolution progress developing in logical, good and positive form, he/she will live new lives over and over again through many new personalities in reincarnations of his/her individual spirit form which vivifies the body. I hope that you have found time to review and reflect upon all 21 statements.
In this email I am addressing all of you collectively with the goal of attaining responses from you resulting from your review of the previous information submittals, responses which would be highly appreciated and valued by me. Send me your comments and questions and I will respond to you with answers. It is important for the positive, evolutionary growth of Earthhumans, via the "4D Resolution" presentation of goals, to move the 'extraterrestrial presence on Earth' into the awareness of the Earthhuman public. In doing this the Earthhuman takes a huge step forward in his/her evolution. To reiterate, in short form summary, the "4D Resolution" proposes: a DISCLOSURE to the public of all, past and present, governmental programs related to the 'extraterrestrial presence on Earth', a DECADE OF CONTACT where United Nations and United Nations Member Nations provide funding for a 10 year process of public education, scientific research, educational curricula development, strategic planning, community activity and public outreach in regard to the extraterrestrial presence on Earth, a DISARMAMENT where a permanent banning of all space based weapons systems and warfare in space is achieved; a DIPLOMACY in regard to formulating Earthhuman goals and plans to achieve diplomatic relations with off planet cultures visiting Earth.
You have attained your diplomatic positions as a result of your skills in processing information presented to you. You, the skilled individuals chosen to represent your fellow men, must now bring into action your diplomatic expertise and openly, fairly and thoroughly review the amount, variety and ongoing ness of the information evidences in regard to the 'extraterrestrial presence on Earth', and expressly present your conclusions. I urge you not to let my submittals of information meet with silence and inaction. The information I have submitted to you is not just from a past occurrence in 1975, for Billy Meier, on February 13, 2006, has had a 413th Contact. His official contacts began with the 1st Contact on January 28, 1975 and, as you are informed, the Contacts continue on.
The 'extraterrestrial presence on Earth' is not just something from the past, but a present and ongoing into the future, reality. The time is at hand to acknowledge this and bring about a truly wonderful, worldwide, Earthhuman mindgrowth experience as the Earthhuman comes to learn of, and be informed about, the 'extraterrestrial presence on Earth'
Billy Meier has the best information available on planet Earth for the purposes of each and every Earthhuman's evolvement and when the advice of the Pleiadian/Plejaren extraterrestrials is incorporated into the living conduct change of Earthhumans, be this in great measures or small measures, the future of Earth and the Earthhuman turns for the better.
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Sincerely,
Larry Driscoll
Regards
Scott |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 866
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Hello,
Did I read the news right, Pluto is now considered a "dwarf planet" which changes it's status?
I'm not sure what the Plejarens would say about this, or what their definition of a planet or cosmic body is?
Scott |
Michael_d
Member
Post Number: 130
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 01:44 pm: |
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Something posted back in 2004 about Pluto.
In Cheiro’s system of numerology, the numbers are said to be "ruled" by or derive their vibration from the planets of the Solar system.
1 = Sun
2 = Moon
3 = Jupiter
4 = Uranus
5 = Mercury
6 = Venus
7 = Neptune
8 = Saturn
9 = Mars
In this system, the planet Pluto is not accounted for. This might be understandable because Pluto was discovered just one year before Cheiro’s death. However contemporary astrologers usually assign great significance to Pluto, saying it rules “power” and “transformation” among other things. However, assigning such importance to Pluto is somewhat odd because Pluto is such a small planet and is so distant from the Sun and Earth. Is the planet Pluto of no true importance in numerology and astrology, and is this because it is not really a planet?
Wishing you and everyone at the FIGU peace and good health.
Michael_d
Answer
Billy doesn't know. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 648
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 03:07 pm: |
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Hi Scott...
You and the rest may find these excepts interesting...
'According to information from the Pleiadians/Plejarans, several planets
exist in our solar system in addition to the nine known to terrestrials:
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
For example, close to the sun exists a planet called Vulcan or Volkano of
which terrestrials have spoken for centuries. Furthermore, the so-called
Transpluto orbits the SOL far beyond Pluto. Beyond SOL a planet also existed
about the size of Earth, but a few years ago it was thrust into outer space
by one spiral arm of a black hole.'
And....
'Pluto was only discovered in 1930 and Charon, its moon, in 1978. Together
they form a rather unique constellation: Pluto is the only planet in our
solar system that builds up an atmosphere like a comet when approaching the
sun and then loses it again as it retreats.'
Billy
So Scott, Billy and the Plejarans still speak of Planets within and beyond
our system. And beyond the Kuiper-belt, Billy still speaks of "Planetoids"..
as I can recall: which they are known today as, even by NASA, and as I also
call them. And if I am correct, there are astronomers whom want to call
objects/planets beyond the Kuiper-belt "Plutons"....and asteroids...just
asteroids.
If Pluto was not defined as a Planet, Billy and the Plejarans would have
already given it a new name by now?
Well, naming it a 'Dwarf Planet'...does not change the definition that much,
if I may say so?
'Dwarf Planet' is just meaning it as being: "a Planet being smaller than
it's usual size/format". So, I think it can still be accepted: As long as it
is still named 'Planet'.
You are correct, we have to..from now on call Pluto a 'Dwarf Planet'.
Edward. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 868
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 05:52 pm: |
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Thanks Michael and David.
I wasn't aware that the sun was considered to be a planet by Cheiro's definition of a solar system.
It's interesting the root word of planet is planasthai which means wanderer, which to me means any celestial body in motion such as the planets, but not the sun, yet it is considered a planet by some definitions???
Scott |
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