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    Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 220 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey rarena, yes, i'm open to all kinds of possibilities, just seems strange to me that all these various events will be seen, not simply a light in the sky only, but also silver objects etc. anything is possible i guess. could even be somekind of hologram projection or something. i emailed jim dilettoso once with no reply. one day when i have the money i will have all my stuff anylized. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey rarena if it interests you, from the first set of photo's i put on here, the one with th yellow streak and the green segmented thing.... i am pretty sure (after some double checking and experimentation) that that particular phgoto is nothig more than obscured images of a street lamp and as for the green thing, im not sure what it's source could be, but i am betting it is something along the same lines. as for the blue streaks, if you lookcarefully you can see many things CLEARLY. there' a monkey in a tree, a robot, an aligator, a dinosaur, even what looks to be italy and part of europe. i just noticed that a few days ago. did you try anytihng else with the photo's? | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 237 Registered: 01-2004 |
rarena, if this still interests you... i have obtained photo stills from the video clips i took with my digital camera. the following picture is of one still of the objects (one of the many various kinds) found in these video clips. i will post another also here in this same post. if you would like the whole lot, i will send them to you gladly.   | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 323 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear forum A couple of weeks ago for several consecutive days, I had the occasion of seeing the crisp clear stary night's sky without any obstruction from clouds and smog from bush fires. The heavens literally glowed from the majestic bright stars that twinkled the night away. During these observations, especially late into the wee hours of the morning, I had observed literally numerous satellites that streaked across the heavens from one end of the sky to the other.The funny thing was some blinked whilst others followed one another. To this day, I know not of any satellites that abruptly changed it trajectory and decide to follow another satellite. I could be mistaken and I've thought about other possible explanations that could be attributed to this possible sighting such as self-induced hallucination, wishful thinking, self deception, electro-magnetic effect?, telenotic effect, natural phenomenon, planes (that glow?), terrestrial craft, light distortions etc etc But then again this came to mind:---- ******************Naturally, we had never counted on such an impressive salute. The question remains, however, whom do we owe such a surprising demonstration. Since we had been told that the Pleiadians/Plejarans and their confederates had withdrawn and eliminated their secret terrestrial stations, we initially thought of alien, peaceful extraterrestrial visitors - that is until Billy explained the actual situation to us. According to his explanation, in spite of the Plejarans' withdrawal, a few unmanned Pleiadian/Plejaran telemeter disks continue to circle our globe. In addition to these, two manned Pleiadian ships constantly perform their monitoring flights above Earth. With this corrective explanation all ambiguities were resolved. Guido Moosbrugger, Austria******************** And this:------ QUESTIONS FROM OUR READERS On page 41 of his book Existing Life in the Universe, Billy claims that it is impossible to observe satellites between the hours of 10 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. at a height of 20-40 km [12-24 miles], because they do not fly as low as this and because the Earth is situated at this time within the core shadow of the sun's light. "An acquaintance of mine had this claim researched by the Max-Planck-Institute for Astronomy in Heidelberg, Germany, and received the reply that this is incorrect, because the umbra would no longer reach the satellites. They would be visible under all circumstances at this time." Answer: If one examines the statement made by the Max-Planck-Institute, one comes to the conclusion that this question is either unintentional nonsense to produce an irrational and silly reaction to my book, or else there is a misunderstanding on the part of the individual posing the question, or the Max-Planck-Institute. Here are the facts: Neither satellites that glow nor those that blink can be seen at heights of twelve (12) to twenty-four (24) miles, for the simple reason that there are no satellites which orbit the Earth at such low altitudes. Although I am not a space engineer, my general education tells me that satellites fly at a minimum orbital altitude of at least 140 kilometers [87 miles]. Therefore, if the Max-Planck-Institute is said to claim that one can observe satellites at an altitude of 20-40 kilometers between 10 p.m. and 2 a.m., it is an untrue statement against all better knowledge. I believe, therefore, that this reply did not originate with the Max-Planck-Institute, but with a wanna-be informed individual who does not understand the situation yet wants to make himself look important. Billy | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 338 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear forum Does anybody have any clues as to which ET race the Dr Greers contacts belong to. He states that the pheonix lights or the humungus triangular ufo appeared as a result of his calling. Doubts about the voracity of some his claims are beginning to fracture the tightly esteemed confidence I had of his reputation along with the expectation of his morality that befitted a man of his words which often I saw true to his own words by it's logicality and corroborativeness. Now it seems, his guiding light seems to mimic the very words spoken by Billy which calls upon suspicion by the very similar nature in their synchronous revelation. To be fair to Dr Greer, his efforts are still worthy of great respect but it's becoming more and more clear through the intervening years that he seem to be diverging from his original high and noble intentions. Now why would this be or should we ask, which faction of the quasi-government has he sold himself to or for that matter, who has taken over his mind? I can only speculate | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1068 Registered: 02-2000 |
To me when I think of the Giza Intelligences, the Hyperboreans and the Blue Race for some reason I equate them with Extraterrestrials. But technically they are not since they live on Earth. I wonder what the Plejarens or Billy consider them, Earth Humans or ETs? I think this lack of definition may effect what we understand when the Plejarens say a UFO contact isn't one. If the Hyperborens pick up a person in their craft would that be considered a UFO contact? My Website | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 255 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey norm, i though about that stuff too. maybe this will help somewhat... if a person from another planet settles on earth, they are an e.t. but if they have children on earth, i would think that makes the child an earth human. what do you think about this? | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1070 Registered: 02-2000 |
But whats The Plejaren definition? My Website | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 257 Registered: 01-2004 |
well, i would think plejarens ar going to derive their definition through common sense. i came to the conclusion above with common sense, so i figure they too could see it that way. what other way could one see it? | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 258 Registered: 01-2004 |
well, i would think plejarens ar going to derive their definition through common sense. i came to the conclusion above with common sense, so i figure they too could see it that way. what other way could one see it? a human born on earth is an earth human. a pair of humans that have a baby in space would be earth human, but i think the baby would be an e.t. or am i wrong to think this? | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 388 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi guys, Billy and the Plejaren refer to the Bafath as ET, I guess sort of the same way that a migrant 4th generation unassimilated foriegn ethnicity would still be designated according to their origins, not their adopted land, into which they did not mix. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1071 Registered: 02-2000 |
Dyson, Did you happen to come across what the term Bafath means? If it has a meaning. My Website | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hello friends, There is ocassional extreme UFO activity going on at Truman Resevoir near Lawrence KS. Several people have seen full blown lights in the sky and a young friend of mine was recently surprised to discover orbs of light in photos taken of him in several places. We sent the photos to some experts who informed us that this is a known and growing phenomena around the world. These orbs are of vaying sizes -- from baseball size to large lights in the sky. They are CRYSTALINE in structure and often cannot be seen by the naked eye until photos are developed. The photo experts I talked to said THEY WERE NOT PHOTO ARTIFACTS. Interesting also is the fact that the young friend's girl friend recently returned from China where she had taken several photos. When these were developed -- THEY TOO showed orbs of light among crowds of Chinese. Not ALL the pictures, but quite a few. Here is a word I received back from one of my sources. They were very interested in those photos. Heres what they said: Those orbs indicate a little tap on the shoulder. Many are chosen but few respond -- mostly thinking these to be an annomally or freak film artifact. Some scientists I talked to about them said that they were an INTERFACE. An impingment upon the higher frequencies of our electromagnetic spectrum by non-local scalar energies and have intelligence behind them -- most likely extraterresrial. Some Remote Viewers say the same thing. Anyone have any comments? Salome, nestingwave. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 389 Registered: 03-2004 |
Norm: short answer: no. Nestingwave: well, there are the "Foo-fighters", and then there are the "common" "orbs" which every eyeglass wearer is all too familiar with, when looking into the sunlight, when we see an "orb", being a refection of the Sun off the surface of the eye, reflected in turn off the inner surface of the glasses lens. I'm nearsighted enough that all I have to do to see a wonderfully complex "orb" is take off my glasses and look at a point of light. On film, the same effect is called a "UFO" ("UnFocussed Object") by the leading scientific researcher into "crop circles". There's a bit here, FYI: www.gaiaguys.net/DCoCC_Excerpts.htm Dunno who the photo experts are you spoke with, my friend, but it pays (as you know) to do your own research. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 06-2006 |
Dear FIGU Members, I was looking at Billy's Pictures of the Wedding Cake Spaceships and would like to comment on the Night Pictures of the Golden ones. The car below is identified as a Rolls Royce Camargue which was a special edition car produced by Rolls Royce between 1975 till 1984 selling at the highest prices around 150,000 USD then. One can expect such cars to appear in Switzerland and the South of France where a large portion of European Millionairs travel around. Was the car standing on a main road or was it parked at that place ? The lighting seems to come from projectors from a neighboring Villa. The car seems to have been parked there while the Spaceship passed over the car in the direction of the Villa. From the car size of 5m this craft was at least 7m in diameter depending on the flyover hight. Does anyone have more detailed info on the conditions the pics were taken ? Salome Mohammed | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Mohammed ; The lighting came from the beamship itself , being a variation that had luminescence capabilities (as well as time travel) .I believe the car was parked in the parking lot of the center , but I'm not completely sure about that . Mark Campbell | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2006 |
Dear Mark, If the car belongs to the parking lot of the center, then there must have been a visitor there who belongs to the Millioneres of Europe. I dont believe that any of the FIGU members owned that car. Besides you can see tha the car has a uniform illumination on it that must come from some light near the parking lot. I understand that it was mentioned to be from a self illuminating type but why is the illumination for a certain projected side only ? Besides you can see the effect of lighting on the wheel cups of the car when the spaceship was still behind the car in distance ! Is it Quetzal's Hyperspacer that actually landed at the center during daytime ? Salome Mohammed | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 06-2006 |
In the book 'And Still They Fly' there are 4 of the golden Wedding Cake photos. The blurb under each photo indicates that the car is "in the main street in the direction of Rotenthurm". It is described as a 7 meter ship, hovering by the main street. In one of the photos, the ship is described as being 14 meters --- which could be an error I guess. Robjn | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 403 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear all, There were three ships. Exactly the same except for scale x1, x2 & x3, being 7m, 14m & 21m in diameter. I wonder if the owner of the luxury car can ever be traced? After all these years, some progress against the skeptibunkers! Cheers! Dyson | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Mohammed ; The car must be illuminated by a light from the side , I guess you're right .But how did that light get there ? Can it be proven that it's really a light , or a clever fake ? OK , sorry , I have an odd sense of humor about some things. The millionaire's car could have been sold to a less wealthy person after he figured out that it steered like a battleship and was no longer a thrill to own . Or , it might have had mechanical problems and he sold it before it had to be cubed . I see Jaguars sometimes that are in declining condition that are driven by non-millionares . In any case , it could have been driven by a millionaire who was visiting the center, or wherever it was at the time . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 375 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dyson, when I had my UFO sighting and I mean of all places, it happened right on top of Melbourne city in broad daylight when human traffic was at its peak at noon or thereabouts. Unbeknownst to almost everyone, being starkly and quite blissfully unaware and going about their business heads down of course, the sighting had gone on for at least a full 1 hour. Crikey! and yet not one news report whatsoever and the word ET electrogravitic you mentioned got me thinking back about the incident because on one occasion during the sighting with 6 other independent witnesses and subsequent to this , some more having witnessed it, there was this gray blue tinged clusters of orbs very close to where we were, right in front of us, flying like flock of birds and then all of a sudden just disappearing out of nowhere. I initially attributed this to holographic projection because the ones that flew very low seemed to have a 2D look to them. Anyway I did ask Michael, Marc Julianno, FIGU and then posted an outrages request to Billy but seeing as inevitably, I must contend with an indefinitive answer, the mysteries of which origin these particular orbs belongs to still remains a mystery. The reason why I mentioned this is because after the sighting for a couple of days, I had this really painful headache which felt like my head was just about to split. Now that you mention the electrogravitic effect, the holographic projections of the low flying clusters of orbs may have been induced with this effect. As for the brightly lit orbs very high up in the sky that blinked, fused together, made formations of what looked to be star system we can observe at night such as orion, southern cross, a perfect equallateral triangle and other formations, they came from all directions of the sky, to then mingle around the same area together. The really weird part was that just before the sighting, I felt this impulse or a message to look up and lo and behold they were there as I expected in my wishful thinking for at several months before the sighting and the funny thing is, I was the first one to see this in the area that I was in, I don't know about anywhere else as the city and the greater metropolitan areas are quite big. What got me started was when I'd read Tjames post back then, in which he stated that orbs would appear on his calling, so I gave this a try and sent thought messages to the telemeter disc hovering above the SSSC but also kinda outrageously, after reading a book on the underground dwelling super Ahgartian races, also sending the regent of Ahgarti a message whether they can show themselves the night prior to the sighting. I know this sounds quite crazy but if I had access to the radar records of that particular day and time when the sighting was going on, a qantas 767 or 757 domestic plane as well as another white propeller driven planes flying right on top of the city and underneath those clusters of UFOs or orbs, I am 100% certain I could unequivocally verify the authenticity of the sighting. After the sighting, there was a flurry of police helicopter activity everywhere around the city. Now what has all this really amounted to when my desire for an actually sighting was for it to happen so that people become more enlightended to the existence of UFO and extraterrestrials thereby helping it alittle in my wishful thinking?, frankly sweet F all and even if 100,000 city dwelling Melburnians saw those brightly lit clusters of UFOs on that clear crisp day, nothing would have eventuated because it would have amounted to nothing more than just a brief distraction away from their stress ridden day full of worries. I mean stupid me to have expected something like these events to change the course of human history alittle and the fact that while all this was going on, not me or not one single individual took out their mobile phones to capture some pictures, I only did so after it was too late when the orbs started departing ever so gently one after another, receding from the scene. I have three pictures of the event but can't see anything, I must say we were totally mesmerised and absorbed in the event to think about anything else during that period. Anyway, even if I captured the full 1 hour event on the best video cameras available, I am sure it would have ended up in the dustbin catalogue of Youtube server not garnering anything but skepticism from the would be curious minded. Come to think of it, not even a literal white house landing will change most minds. Disappointing, very vexing cheers Matt | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 416 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Matt, "...not even a literal white house landing will change most minds." You got that right! :-) The sooner all of us learn the bitter truth that Ptaah revealed - "The Earth human does not want to know the truth" - the sooner we can avoid disappointment and unrealistic optimism regarding the poisoned sectarian majority. But Melbourne ... really ... what could you expect from "the people in black"? (Melbournians like to dress as if they are all attending a funeral.) Cheers! Dyson | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 377 Registered: 07-2005 |
Ha Ha Ha How observant of you Dyson Wait till winter comes, it's nothing but black It'll put our fellow NZ all blacks to shame. cheers Matt | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 209 Registered: 06-2005 |
Matt WHEN did you have this amazing sighting? It got me thinking: if these orbs were friendly Why did you have headaches? could these have been UN- friendly and that's why you had the bad headaches? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 379 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Melli Around 11:15am to 12:15 pm 7th of August 2006 As for the headache, as outlandish as it may sound, I attribute this to the telenotic electro-magnetic impulses sent in our direction for us to be able to observe the low flying, bluish gray tinged clusters of orbs close to where we were. It was amazing. Seeing as we are all OK, I don't think it's prudent for me to attribute this hostile image of whoever was piloting these crafts, I think the government and the various lonnies of the ufological circle are doing a much better job on tarnishing the image of ETs as being hostile without needing my help. Man, you should have seen it Melli, it was quite a spectacle and I did think about you melli seeing as you don't live that far away, I am sure you could have seen it from where you live, they were positioned that high. cheers matt | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 211 Registered: 06-2005 |
Matt, you make me very very envious though in a positive way, why O why didn't you call me? Can you remember what you felt when you saw these orbs? not what you thouhgt! Last year in Jan. while in Byron I saw a cigar shape object flying at 45 degree angle, it had a yellow glow around it and it wasn't in any hurry to disappear, many who stood around the carpark saw it too. That one I am quite sure (?) arrived from pine gap. Anyway we are heading to byron again and I must say the nights are spectacularly peaceful, I am looking forward to lying on the beach at night and observing the skies. I wonder is there a specific affirmation that would help me invite even the quickest streak of a glowing light? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 380 Registered: 07-2005 |
Melli, I am sure I am only going to dig a little deeper into the ad absurdium hole if I even as attempt to try to answer your question with some kind authority on 'Dummies guide to contacting ETs'. I really don't know Melli but it so happens that I think this wasn't my first sighting either. The strange thing about destiny and providence is that you can only find out the answers to some extent in hindsight when certain events fall in line with one another that draws you to those conclusions. Why I say this is that when my mother was 13-14 years of age, she had a UFO sighting and she could clearly articulate I think without false or tarnished memory, the events that took place that fateful day. She told me that a couple of UFOs (orbs) zipped in both opposite direction and then came together to fuse with one another. She didn't describe it as a UFO as the folklore of the region of her birthplace called it 'monster lights'. Fast forward 40 something odd years, I think there was a reason for it. Anyway getting back I can only describe what I did before the sighting. The night before and on several occasions before this, as I said to Dyson in my 375 post, I sent some thoughts to the telemeter disc hovering above SSSC and the regent of Agharti to show themselves. Anyway the last thing I said to myself the night before the sighting was, 'who do think you are that they should show themselves and besides why should they show themselves to someone who is unworthy of it'. well this was my genuine reasoning to myself but for some reason it happened. Ever since then, I have had to endure some challenging moments in my life which I think is conducive for my development and on a few occasions I did succumb to my beastial self and committed act against Creational commandments. A lot of thoughts did race through my mind, especially of what the significance of this sighting meant and the fact that the greatest enemy and danger that surfaces within was self conceit. It wasn't a big battle to deal with as I have a very strong sense of guilt conscious to keep my ego in this direction at bay and have no problems with staying modest. But since it happened by surprise although half expectant, we were so mesmerised that our common sense left us other than acting on our desire to alert as many people as our thin skin will allow. Regarding why I didn't mention this to you, I don't know melli other than hoping you would have read my post at PAR which I disclosed. Since I didn't want to turn this personal event into some ego boosting show offing circus, I just left it at that and besides, in this day and age UFO sighting are so common for people in the know that it wasn't all that bigger deal to go on about it other than factually stating that I had a sighting. I couldn't tell you what you need to do for a sighting Melli but if I have a suggestion it is this. Focus your thoughts on the telemeter disc hovering above SSSC, create a consciously willed desire to want to see them. Ask it if they can show themselves but don't do it for your own pleasure or curiosity but want it for a higher purpose and I gather your dedication to the teachings and how much effort you put into studying and working on yourself, I think will have some bearing but most important of all, I believe you need to keep your intentions pure. That's it Melli Cheers Matt | ||
Anday727 Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2006 |
In the post no.11, Mqhassan wrote: "The car below is identified as a Rolls Royce Camargue which was a special edition car produced by Rolls Royce between 1975 till 1984..." Dear Mohammed, I am not sure about that. After closer look of those photos I can say that the car is actually Mercedes-Benz W126. The W126, manufactured by the German automotive marque Mercedes-Benz premiered at the Frankfurt International Motor Show in September 1979. The different body styles available achieved a combined sales of more than 800,000 units over the car's 12 year production run between 1979 and 1991, making the W126 the most popular S-Class to date. Find more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W126 Salome, Dejan | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2006 |
Dear Andy , You need to look into the cars shape in detail. I know for sure it is not an S class Mercedes. The rooftop and high front ( higher than a Mercedes). the proportions of the car . I am sending you pics of the Camargue. Note the wheel cups and the reflection from them in the wedding cake spaceship pictures Salome Mohammed   | ||
Anday727 Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 02-2006 |
Hi Mohammed, really almost the same shape of those two models, even the same size (5 meters long), but in the Guido Moosbrugger's book "And still they fly!" in the Photo Gallery, on the pages 13-14, there are four pictures of a self-illuminating beamships. Billy's photos of 7 and 14 meter ships on August 2, 1981. at Altmatt/SZ, also on August 5, 1981. at SSSC. The car is visible on the photos no. 23, 24 and 25. Here is the description from the book. Photo no. 23: A 7-meter ship next to the main street in the direction of Rotenthurm, hovering behind an automobile (Mercedes) with a tree branch above in the center of the picture. Date: August 2, 1981. Location: Altmatt/SZ. Photo no. 24: A 7-meter ship directly in front of an automobile hovering by the main street in the direction of Rotenthurm, (in the above left, a tiny portion of the second 14-meter ship can be seen.) Date: August 2, 1981. Location: Altmatt/SZ. Photo no. 25: A 14-meter ship hovering behind a tree by the main street in the direction of Rotenthurm. To the above left, a telemeter disk zipping around at a tremendous speed is visible. Date: August 2, 1981. Location: Altmatt/SZ. Photographer: Billy. Photo no. 24 is the best for you to compare the shapes of the two cars. See the rear end of the car. It is the Mercedes W-126, the S-class. Salome, Dejan | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2006 |
Dear Andy, I had a look at the W 126 S class cars of the time and have the following remarks. A Mercedes has the orange side lamps extending in the front and at the rear. So any side view would show that. The pics shows an extension of a front side lamp below the level of the main light extending as a narrow strip. Also the rear end of the car in the spaceships pictures have a reflecting phosphorus at the rear end and not the curvature of the backlights. So the W 126 is out of place and if Guido did mention that in his book perhaps this should be reconsidered for future edtions of the book. The car shown is a large coupe and not a traditional 4 door saloon. A second and important point is that we are dealing with a night time photograph. If the car was trully on the road then it must have been standing with its lights off ! Otherwise such night photos would clearly show the effect of front and back lights. If a telephoto lens was used as one can expect, then still these night photos have a technical problem. The distances to the objects could be actually be tens of meters up to hunded meters or more. You will also need relativly long exposures to get the required lighting, even if done with very high sensitivity films lke 800 ASA or more. So one concludes that the spaceship was very still in place with no movement whatsoever, and the tree was considerably near to be so much out of focus that the car shows through. The homogenious lighting of the car at such distances indicates that there were directed projector lights in the direction of the street. At the time that the wedding cake spaceships in daylight provide very exciting results on movie and still pictures, that strongly support the Billy's contacts, the night time photos pose a weak point among the pictures because of the illumination and distances, providing a fresh ground for debunkers to take them as a means to damage Billy's reputation. I think what we need here is a strong stand together to explain and stand against such moves. The self illuminating concept should show a homogeniously illuminated spaceship without effects simlar to light projectors being reflected from its metallic surface. I urge members to study the pictures carefully and provide logical explanations as to how the picutes were taken. Salome Mohammed | ||
James Member Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2005 |
Just finished watching this video and I think its a good attempt at exposing the d isinformation, particularly the C IA, may be putting out. It talks about the old German S.S projects, cattle mutilations as well as Soviet and U.S. secret m ilitary programs. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7559058589876655458&hl=en Welcome to Earth! | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1100 Registered: 02-2000 |
That video feature Nick Cook he wrote a great book called The Hunt For Zero Point. He seems to confirm a lot of what Billy's says. "A decade ago Nick Cook, the Aviation Editor for Jane's Defense Weekly, stumbled across an article from the 1950's discussing US breakthroughs in anti-gravity technology research. As a result, Cook began a ten-year obession that would lead him to write an eye-opening new book of investigative journalism, "The Hunt for Zero Point"! http://www.americanantigravity.com/nick-cook.html My Website | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 07-2005 |
Phoenix lights comes back after over 10 years. The military thinks it's flares or so they say http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?pmmsid=1839120 | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2006 |
 Accidentally caught on camera. Quite interesting to see ,the difference in colouration in front of the object. It looks like some kind of protective bubble...but who knows? The trail also just stops quite abruptly, if viewed from further away. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 442 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hello dear forum members G'day people Several months ago, I had the occasion of filming a UFO with my video camera. I have isolated over 2 minutes from the whole segment taken from an airplane I would love to share with you guys but don't know how I could put it up. Its mpeg-2 file which can be viewed in microsoft media player. Initially I brushed off this sighting as just another domestic airplane probably flying in the same direction as the one I was in but certain factors conspire me to think against this. One of the factors are when I zoom in at 100x the UFO colouration turns from white to black against the backdrop of the rising sun over the horizon. It has a trail of vapour from it's tail I wouldn't call chemtrails But the events leading up to the sighting was that I had this kinda overwhelming urge or compulsion to look outside the planes window. As for how such an opportune scenario of me conveniently having a video camera with me at that particular time? Well I vowed after missing the opportunity of a life time when I had the most unequivocal UFO sighting I'd mentioned of the 7th of August 2006 sighting at around 11:15am-12:15pm, that i would carry a video camera with me wherever I go just in case. Anyway, if anybody here knows how to file share could you please let me know. I haven't shown this to anybody yet. Thanks cheers Matt | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Matt, Upload your vidi to You Tube http://www.youtube.com/ if you don't mind giving it to the public... Then link to it in this forum using the little globe and chain link in the "add your message here box" and people can just click the link to view it. Randy | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 447 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks Randy for the suggestion I would like to share it with you guys first before I put it up on youtube, see what you guys think. Is there another way to do this. cheers Matt | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 212 Registered: 07-2004 |
Matt I think www.photobucket.com takes video's now. You can store pics and vids for whoever you wish to view it. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 454 Registered: 07-2005 |
Fellas it might take some time to get this up and running, the various programs you've suggested and others I have found over the internet is mysteriously not uploading for some reason or that it stops half way through it. Either my connection is no good or that there is some other problem. Keep posted nonetheless fellas, it's definitely worth a look. Sorry to disappoint in the mean time. Promptness and delivery should be order of the day seeing as I was the one letting this cat out of the bag. Thanks Matt | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 186 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Matt, Concerning your UFO vidi... The internet does not allow files larger than a certain size have forgotten the exact reason. It has to be converted to .rar with Winrar (better than zip) or the like which is a compression program to later be reconverted to a movie file... It probably has to do with packet size, am not sure on this. This has a higher learning curve and something that is not crystal clear to me as well. Most posting like this is done on USENET. Another method is to make a web site, most ISP's allow the formation of a web site, such as AOL (Aol's web site deal is called my homepage or something like that) or whatever you use. You can put a video on there and then just provide a link. To make the HTML HyperText Markup Language it is necessary to have another program, capable of handling videos and able to create web pages in hypertext. This I have done and is a little easier on the techy dweeb meter. There are other ways (I.E. using streaming and other types of vidi vehicles) but they are kind of open to security leaks at this time. Youtube is probably the easiest but it most likely becomes their property afterwords... certainly public domain. Keep your UFO vidis on a CD or DVD in the meantime. Don't trust the hard drive to save this.  | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 485 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day fellas At last the ufo sighting is downloaded here Sorry for the wait, not that it was any priority on your to do list of must sees. http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=8502051870286902988 cheers Matt | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 298 Registered: 01-2004 |
a couple of nights ago i seen a light in the sky, a big silver light(solid), at first i thought it was a ufo, as i've seen these many times before, no big deal. i seen it when i had the sudden impulse to look out of the automobile i was in. i barely got a look at it, but when i got out of the auto mobile, i seen it and it was still there, my mother and i talked about it. i decided i would take pictures the next night, for those of you who dont know, i took a bunch of pivtures that seem to have very complex images of a whole bunch of things, oneday i will make a website with all these photo's and my descriptions of them. but back to the topic at hand... i took these pictures the following night and some interesting things appeared in them. the picture with the smoke and the light design and crossing telephone wires... this is an image of a dalmation dog, in case you cant see, in the original picture the eye of the dog is clearly visible. the markings of black patches and white patches eexactly mimic the patterns on my dalmation dogs face, who i was taking for a walk at the time. note how the collar end is visible, the obvious bust of a dog, it's ears etc. the picture with the big bright light is of the moon. i did not zoom in on the moon, it took a picture of it as is. note the colour of the light around it. it is reddish and greyish. the picture of the low set light under the telephone wire, note that it is very very (almost exaclty the siz of the moon, but it is smaller and the colour of light around it is yellowish and light, not reddish or greyish. the picture of the strak of light with a rounder tip, it is of the same sizee and colour of the low set yellow light. note the long tracer/tail on it, but no tracers from the trees. the picture of the dark sky and wires, take a careful look at it, then look at the same picture, slightly moved to the right, yet with that yellow streak of light. same spot yet light suddenly in the 2nd poto. these pictures were taken about 3-4 seconds apart from eachother. the picture with the small leafed branch to the left and the light pattern on the right, compare it to the other pictures. compare it also to the similair picture which hs a reddish haze at the bottom of the picture. the picture with a red and yellow haze at the bottom, with an orb of some kind up to the right. compare to other pictures the photo of the green leafed bush, with a colourful orb near the center, compare to other orbs in the picture containing 4 different orbs (the one colourful one being the only same orb as in this bush picture. these orbs are from other pictures of the same set, i just didnt want to post all of them. tommorrow or in the next couple of days i will post all my 13 or so "blue light" sky images and their descriptions. any comments and opinions are appreciated. thanks for your time and enjoy              | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 225 Registered: 07-2004 |
What is it you want commented on? Without a full and proper description of the incidents as you witnessed, any response made is more or less a guess and that generally is a waste of time. Especially a waste when your details are vaguely directed at the string of pictures. Your attempt here is just enough info to draw an uninformed and weakly valued reply. Take some time and better prepare your posts that request responses to them, making for a better information exchange. Otherwise, no comment necessary. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 483 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Peter ; Those are interesting photos to say the least . If you would please , post them one at a time , so that all the posts following it are not a mile long , at would be greatly appreciated thanks . mark Mark Campbell | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 298 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello shawn that's quite the opinion, i conversed with a person the day after these were shot, he had alot more to say then you and quite the opposite of what your opinion of my picture post seems to be. by the way, i m not here to find out what all that is in the photo's, im here for opinions, so there is no need for a detailed account of what happend etc. a photo is worth a thousand words. but since i already got you talking to me, i might aswell give you what you want. i have other photo's that will perhaps better satisfy your "guidelines". here's my email... peter_brodowski@msn.com i will send you about 13 photo's taken in two go's, on two different days, then i will send you one that was taken with the photo's you just commented about. i will make everything VERY VERY clear for you. and thanks for your opinion | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 299 Registered: 01-2004 |
sorry about that marc, i will do that next time i thought it would be a hassle for you if i posted 8 or 10 short posts. sorry about that. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 227 Registered: 07-2004 |
Ok Peter how about I just give you a reply straight out of the gate. These photos are uninteresting to me. I've seen more than enough of similar ones that turned out to be manipulated fun pictures or deliberate attempts at creating unique film exposures/digital effects. Why should I spend any of my time other than this quick reply on them. That's why my first post about these pictures was what it was, or,"quite the opinion" as you put it. I asked for the surrounding facts so I don't WASTE MY TIME on something that doesn't deserve it. I'm always interested in evidence of any extraordinary things, but I just like to keep moving past something that is not viable in this sense. In other words, make me more interested and you'll get my attention. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 300 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello shawn, why the big fuss? since you are (i figure) claiming that those photo's are simple manipulations, why dont you prove it? to come to your conclusion you must have had a logical step by step method of deducing this, yes? i dont need to prove anything to you, it is you who has something to prove to yourself. i can go out any night and see some out of this world stuff, so i dont need to prove this or that, i am responsible for me. i just wanted to share these little gifts with the people on figu. i'm not billy meier, so sorry if i could'nt bring you some beamships. by the way you simple fellow, i have already got your attention. looks like you talk faster than you can think. if you want to embaress yourself some more, take my photo's to a profesional and see what they have to say. then maybe you will have your "interesting evidence of extra ordinary things". im here with good intentions. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 661 Registered: 03-2004 |
It's the half-Moon with an open shutter, waving the camera around, followed by a strobe flash to freeze the wires. Very droll, Peter.  | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 01-2004 |
that's an interesting take, i wont go into any elaborate detail in making my stance other than this... 1. i have a witness who seen how i was taking pictures and which direction (some shots were away from the moon, totally opposite direction in the sky) on the flip side i did not give you a real in depth detail of the area and the situations and positions of the moon relative to my part of this earth (where i live) so your skepticism is understandable and justifiable, but your method of coming to your conclusions is laughable at best. your view is simply that, i hope you dont actually think you jus "de-bunked" me or whatever you are thinking you have just accomplished. since im talking to you, why dont i do us both a bit of a favour. for now i will email you 12-13 photo's of some "light patterns" that i caught on camera. this is a standard digital camera. nothing fancy. i will give you my explination of what's in the photo's, and you can ook them over and tell me your view. then post it all here to show others the manner inwhich you form your conclusions. aside from that, when there is another clear night down here (as it is cloudy mostly for now) i will (with you personally in mind) go out and snap photo's of a specific area, in the day and night. may different angles, i will do it smarter this time, more in depth and precise. i'll take photo's on 3 or so different nights just for comparitive sake. just for you (i dont mean that sarcastically). i'm willing to play ball with you. on a side note, i can send you many pictures taken out from video clips that i took,extracted by my friend wayne. he was kind enough to do what i wasnt able. you can look at a whole crap load of different photo's, in every which way shape and form and colour combination. and if you dont want to look over them because your time is too precious, well then you must admit that honestly you are just snapping judgements while im snapping photo's. no solid proof of your claim, no solid stance. so let me know if you want those materials.  you go ahead and tell me how i did this one. i clearily see a map of most of europe, tell me what you see. note: every picture with that style of light, draws a detailed picture of something. requiring godlike skill with the camera, o fsomeone who is capable of tiny movements done with such precision and high speed, that it is actually quite impossible for an individual to do, unless the object making those light patterns is moving at an extremely fast speed, thus when the camera takes a photo, the fast moving object and the light it emits, draws a picture in the sky. go take a look at a map of europe beside this photo. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 01-2004 |
here is a photo of the moon, with flash from my camera, shaken purposely.  | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 01-2004 |
and here is another done in moments after.  now compare that to the other pics if you please. in anycase, i dont mind postin photo after photo of detailed images of things ranging from maps of europe to cats eating mice, to bats in flight, to faces and animals in trees etc. i have more than enough ammo for a showdown (photo's i mean, not bullets). | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 664 Registered: 03-2004 |
"i'm willing to play ball with you. ... you can look at a whole crap load of different photo's" No thank you, Peter. I'm not here to play games with people, nor do I think you should be. Dyson | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 224 Registered: 04-2006 |
I can understand that some people in this forum can dismiss Peter photographs as boring, uninteresting or even fabricated ( i will never claim such a thing). But please stop it.I don't want this thread to turn into an absurd Jeff Ritzmann Vs fake Meier pics competition. We all criticize Ritzmann's approach to the Meier case, and in this particular case we all seem to be photoshop/photo editing professionals trying to debunk somebody who 1)does not sell his pics 2) Is not interested in proving their autenticity, only wants to share them with other people.Also, i do not like many of us treating other forum members with zero respect and zero credibility.Nothing entitles anyone of us to portrait ourselves as an "authority" or as leading personalities. This thread is called UFO sightings.Its not called Real UFO sightings.If you want controversy, please feel free to visit http://theparacast.com/forums/ A forum member like Peter Brodowski, 301 posts, should be treated according to his contributions, and not according to his views, personality or his "reputation".Here in Spain we say "with friends like these, who needs enemies.." Revisit the Talmud Jmmanuel chapter 7, "The spirit of Judgment". 1."Judge not falsely, lest you be falsely judged" There are 9 more verses, related to unworthy criticism and summary judgements. I'm not interested being anyones advocate nor prosecutor.On the verge of another stupid Middle East war, i have better things to do.We'd better focus on peace efforts rather than stupid unnecessary internal skirmishes. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 07-2004 |
Peter, Obviously you don't get what I'm trying to convey. Is it so difficult to allow in some more information regarding these photo's, so as to help the process along? And you figure wrong that I am claiming the photo's are simple manipulations. What I am saying is they do not stand out as unique, i.e. I've seen similar ones that were just "tricks". You may call me simple, though you know me not, but anyone reading our posts can sense the pettiness being portrayed here and whence it comes. I'll say this real slow this time, so, ....can....you...supply....some...more....info..... If you really care about others opinions, stop wasting this time we are sharing. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey there hector, great reply, you are a very reasonable person hello dyson, well i extended my hand, and that's the best i can do, is take a more friendly approach to you, but it does not seem to work. you seem to have something against me. you seem to think you got me figured out, you must be a very wise man, to be able to guage my motives just like that. i'm not here to play games with anybody. if that was the case i would have started the games 3 years ago when i found figu. to clear things up, i dont know 100% fact, of what is in those photo's. but what i have learned is that by sharing things that one has experienced or seen, it may spark answers to that persons question. we all think differently, so one might come to certain conclusions faster than others, and others may benefit from that fast sharp persons views and observations. love is sharing, love is caring. i care to share with others. | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hey Peter, please take the following sentences in the way there were meant (constructive criticism, helpful comments). First of all thanks for taking time out to post your photos, just for future reference can you please post one or two photos (or provide links) so that I can fit all the images onto my modest screen monitor, otherwise I will have to invest in an expensive 32” widescreen monitor which would be much to my wife’s disapproval! While I am no photographic expert and I cannot personally confirm nor dispel your photographic evidence from what you have provided, I am however familiar to some extent with similar light phenomena as what appears to be on your photos, colloquially termed “Orb” / “Light” Phenomena. You may or may not be aware that there is scientific research into this very phenomenon which has been ongoing (in the public domain for over twenty years) and many scientists are involved from across Europe; indeed there is much, from peer reviewed articles, scientific measurements using RADAR, magnetometers, high resolution video, photographs, photometry (optical spectral analysis), radio spectrometers, etc. Evidence reveals this to be real physical phenomena showing the light phenomena to having a luminous power output, typical values of approximately 100Kw, this can increase dramatically when the light phenomena ejects smaller luminous spheroids registering an increase of luminosity on the photometric measuring devices. Perturbations of pulsating type (A few Hz) and by small and very short-duration pulsating “spikes” in the HF and VLF radio ranges; sometimes showing Doppler (dynamic movement) features. In most cases (at high level of luminosity) if the light phenomena is seen from far away it has the appearance of a glowing light-ball with no structure, in few cases (at low level of luminosity) it explicitly shows visually some kind of geometric structure. So far there is no firm conclusion as to what the light/Orb phenomenon is, however it does have a real physical dimension to it of which there is now no doubt. From my personal experiences and acquaintances, I have witnessed similar phenomena close up, perhaps too close on certain occasions, (some people can vector such phenomena to an area [purposefully and with intent] using defined protocols and with pictures/witnesses/readings to make each event very compelling indeed, but for the moment such additional details must be keep private for very good reasons. My advice to you would be to firstly explore your experiences with this phenomenon from a personal viewpoint, look at it as advancing your consciousness development, if you have friends that are understanding to you and witnessing or indeed interacting with the same lights/orbs then there is no need I feel to prove (if that was your intent with all due respect) anything to me or indeed to other people here, I do thank you for showing those photos regardless of what you hoped to achieve here on the forum, if it is simply matter of sharing, then thank you, if it is a simple comment then all I can say is that there are unidentifiable lights and they fly, in all probability there are UFOs (whatever you perceive or indeed know them to be). There is always the other avenue with working with a reputable UFO research group if you wish to report these sightings officially, there is standard procedures and questions relating to equipment used, time of sighting, other witnesses and the list goes on and so forth and then it is filed away. Peter, you mentioned that a picture tells a thousand words; while this maybe valid to a certain extent, it all depends on whether other people perceive those “words” to be true or not, in other words is these photos real or fake, perhaps now you know to some extent what Mr. Billy Meier went through, even with rigorous scientific photo analysis completed on his extraordinary photos, the majority of people still reject them. Here is some links that you may find to be of interest showing similar light phenomena (photos, video) some of the information is scientific in nature, strong coffee recommended. Good luck my friend with your explorations and take care! Mike http://www.hessdalen.org/pictures/ http://www.hessdalen.org/film/ http://www.hessdalen.org/reports/hpreport84.shtml http://www.itacomm.net/PH/ | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 302 Registered: 01-2004 |
alright kingman, what info do you want? just keep in mind, i dont go out like a scientist, i simply get an impulse to photograph and act on it, so any long comprehensive collections of data like time and weather conditions etc i cannot provide, mostly. perhaps i am too hopeful and optimistic about some peoples sharp eye or abiltiy to catch the diamond in the mountain of coal. hello mike, yes, i will be sure to post them one at a time, sorry for the trouble. that's pretty interesting, thanks for that bit of info. i was of the opinion that these orbs are either some energy manifestation brought on my a persons concentration, like sparks from a wheel grinding, as a rough metaphor. i am pretty sure i understand what you mean by, but just incase, are you meaning that i should look at this orb phenomenon as something of personal origin? and not an unrelated seperated phenomenon from like some outside source other then myself? i dont want to prove, i figure since i was sharp enough to catch certain things in those photo's, then others would too. perhaps i am too optimistic in that regard. yes i do see it from meiers shoes in this situation. it is strange feeling when someone accuses you of lying or playing some game, when you are not. thank you for the links and i will check into them at once. and thank you for the good luck, your reply is very apprecieated, it's very friendly and neutral, helpfull indeed.i wish you also, to be well. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 492 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day forum members http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=8502051870286902988 Hi, just in case you guys had missed this, I had taken this at the peak of dawn on a flight interstate not long after the plane departed from the Melbourne airport. I was on my way to take care of my mum who was about to undergo a major surgery and I was very keen to see her. As I had explained before, a lead up to such UFO sightings have a common theme in that it's never expected and if one is lucky enough to observe one, they do so on a serendipitous impulse. My experience is the same, I had this impulse or an urge to look outside the window like someone who was reacting to an uneasy feeling of being stared at by someone. The initial beginning of the clip, I see the UFO reflecting off whitish hue and as the film progresses it turns black. The UFO somehow resembles a military airplane but its hard to say at this distance as I had zoomed in at 100 times. My initial thoughts to this was that it was just a domestic plane going to Sydney so I hadn't bothered to put it up but it was when I arrived at mums place and with intervening events which had unfolded that I could not dismiss it. As Billy had said, it could be attributed to many causes but often at nights I would enjoy seeing the clear glistening nights sky where I would observe earth satellites but also orbs far above the sky that blinked whilst others veered off in different direction and followed each other. I would dismiss these occurences as satellites but logically satellites don't change course abruptly nor follow one another. I dare say that it could have been the telemeter discs hovering above the earth. As you forum members know, such disclosure is not immune to criticism whereby those that do engage in coming forward will not be spared of the basic human natural reaction in that we do it for the attention or to prop ourselves in the eyes of others therefore feeling special or whatever. If some people here had misread my intention as such, seeing as I am posting it again, then so it shall be but seeing as a couple of forum members had taken a little interest in my initial disclosure and try to lend a hand at getting it posted, I had hoped that they'd follow it up with a reply as something like this is not an earth shattering event but some affirmation by others does help to clear a few doubts about events that seems far removed from the everyday occurences. Anyway it could be that people had just simply missed it or it wasn't worth the while to follow it up. Whatever the case maybe, here it is fellas Let me know what you people think about this short clip. cheers Matt | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1145 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Matt, If the object of your interest is the craft which you were focusing your camera on, it really, really looks like another commercial or military aircraft on the same heading or close to your heading at close to the same altitude. The contrail emission also looks very characteristic of aircraft flying at higher altitudes when the air is cold enough to temporarily freeze the moisture from the exhaust of the jet engine. Scott | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 669 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Peter, You write, “you seem to have something against me” If I don’t respond to your (wrong) idea that I have something against you personally it will leave ignorant people with the impression that I do indeed bear you some personal animosity, which I do NOT. But as you know all too well, there is more to this than just UFO’s (un focused objects) Just now I’m in the middle of another timely translation (from Billy’s newest articles) about the stupidity of trying to prove anything TO anybody, (one can only ever prove anything to oneself) so I’ll leave it at that for now. But I intend to try to go down the path towards mutual understanding with you as soon as I make time for that, and it is in that forum thread that you will see what I have to say to you, assuming you read it. If not, there will be others here who can learn a little more about you there. Meanwhile, here are a couple of pertinent flies: www.gaiaguys.net/lulies.jpg & www.gaiaguys.net/lies.htm (I’m referring to the excerpt from Mein Kampf.) Two days before you say you made your UFO pictures I posted this on the “Mysteries” thread http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/63.html#POST26289 March 24, 2007 “most “orb” photographs … are UFO’s (Un-Focused-Objects) www.gaiaguys.net/DCoCC_Excerpts.htm (scroll right down)” Meanwhile, here are some "orb" UFO’s (un focused objects) from our recent Canberra freak hailstorm.  And a couple of REAL “orbs” caught on video, creating a “crop circle” www.gaiaguys.net/oliverscastle.mpg - from one of our many field-form pages. Salome, Dyson | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 257 Registered: 06-2005 |
Dear Matt, I saw your video and I am no expert, but I get the feeling that it is yet another military cigar shape IFO, and not a true OFF this planet FO. Why do I think so? simply because if I recall correctly the Plejarens have no more bases on earth they have withdrawn from them years ago. As to your 'urge' to look out the window, it may have been just one of those coindidences because we all know about those things from reading the info. here. Last year when I was in Byron, I saw a cigar shape object glowing in an orange colour flying at a 45 degree angle. I immediately understood that it is infact one of 'them' not one of 'ours'. But then that just my observation and feeling. BTW, How's life treating you? SMILE!!! | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hi Peter You wrote… “i was of the opinion that these orbs are either some energy manifestation brought on my a persons concentration” Peter, this is true to a certain extent, but there is more than concentration involved and yes, it is currently “some” form of unknown energy manifestation that can interact with a human’s consciousness (ongoing research), please endeavor to explore this reality within the framework of your current understandings and means will allow. Please study the links I have provided for you regarding the continuing scientific endeavor of measuring the energy/light/orb phenomena as a very real physical reality. You wrote… “i am pretty sure i understand what you mean by, but just incase, are you meaning that i should look at this orb phenomenon as something of personal origin? and not an unrelated seperated phenomenon from like some outside source other then myself? Peter, these are my thoughts in answer to your question (sorry I do not have scientific proof for the following). Science can be a useful tool when applied correctly, however it is my feeling that science has also marginalised many people in today’s society into thinking processes of “separateness” and even perhaps “elitist” modes, in other words, a percentage (probably large) of Earth humans think that there are separate not only from nature but also from each other, and perhaps sustain a false perception of being “superior” to everything else around them. Please look at this phenomenon from a holistic point of view without preconceptions and the ego and endeavour to discover it for yourself as a matter of personal growth (knowledge, experience, exploration, and learning), when you are at stage whereby this knowledge and experience is profound and convincing for you then my suggestion would be for you to share this knowledge openly (if you desire) with other people. In order to reinforce these ideas I would recommend reading the works of these two authors… Rupert Sheldrake… “One of the world's most innovative biologists has revolutionised scientific thinking with his vision of a living, developing universe with its own inherent memory. He first worked in developmental biology and is best known for his theory of Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance. His latest book, The Sense of Being Stared At develops his concept of the extended mind”. http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html David Bohm… “"I would say that in my scientific and philosophical work, my main concern has been with understanding the nature of reality in general and of consciousness in particular as a coherent whole, which is never static or complete but which is an unending process of movement and unfoldment...." (David Bohm: Wholeness and the Implicate Order) http://david-bohm.net/ Take care Mike | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 493 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hey scott Yeah I guess its the most likely scenario Scott and I had taken this into consideration and didn't look back on it seeing as I didn't want to make this into something that it wasn't but because of the events that had followed it, I decided to put it up for review. Regarding what proceeded just after the sun came up, I try to squint and follow the trajectory of the thing but to no avail and I waited some couple of minutes before I could look in the same direction but by then I had lost it. But what is interesting was series of events that followed it. Near my mum's house there are many high lookout points on top of hills and mountains where I would venture to on most nights for nearly a month or so to glimpse the star studded crystal clear nights and during this time I had many occasions of seeing satellites but also orbs that looked like satellites with irregular flight trajectories. It was these subsequent events that followed which urged me to look back on the short clip I took. But then again I think as you say, it's most likely another plane on a different scheduled path on a similar altitude to the plane I was in. I just hope the plejarens or their federation members can provide some of us forum members to take a decent picture or film clip of their craft for a much needed resurgence of this cause of truth for at least the new people to focus in on FIGU because frankly the O'hare airport incident was too general and didn't cause people to focus in on the FIGU cause. Anyway thanks for your assessment Scott, I can rest assured that even if it was a genuine UFO with such facets of plausible deniability integrated in such a way that it appeared to look more than likely a plane with contrails coming out its backside does not alter or change anything as its too vague to be considered a UFO for people to really take it seriously. Our minds need something more compelling for its inclusion into our immediate reality and I hope some of the federation members provide this opportunity. cheers Matt | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hey Matt I did look at that video a little while back but I can’t seem to view it at moment (probably my PC), therefore I am working from memory (oh dear!). I would tend to agree with Scott as I have similar views. Matt, you are the best placed person to explore this incident further, since you have all the details to the event, there are a number of helpful hints (I think) that I can offer in order to perhaps help clarify the incident for you. You were travelling on an aeroplane when this video was taken (I am correct?). If you remember the flight number, this flights normal cruising height, cruising speed, (you already know its direction) you maybe able to gleam some information from the aviation authority regarding flights in the vicinity on the day, location and time in question. From this information, if it is forthcoming you may be able to infer certain characteristics based on your observation and video evidence of the object. There are strict aviation rules regarding distances between passenger carrying aircraft, of which this object appears to be obeying, also there are strict regulations as to the configuration of navigational lights. If you were using a 100x magnification on your video camera I am presuming that it was set to digital zoom rather than optical zoom (I could be wrong), unfortunately when this setting is used a certain amount of resolution is lost due to CCD capabilities (or indeed lack thereof). I would recommend using optical zoom setting only; however this may not always be possible! Did you manage to gain anyone else’s attention on the flight so as to confirm the same object and perhaps they could offer an opinion? If you have acquaintances in the aviation industry or indeed if you have acquaintances that have access to image enhancement technology, both avenues may be worth pursuing in order to bring closure to this matter. In addition if there are reputable UFO research group/s that you are aware of, it may be interesting to know if they had any UFO reports based around the same day and roughly within the same area, even if they didn’t, any reputable UFO research group would only be too happy to view your video and make a report of your sighting, you may also find that they may know someone within the aviation industry that could help clarify matters, equally they may also have access to people with image enhancement technology, that’s of course if you wish to proceed in this manner. Not sure if this information helps or if it gives you something to go on! Anyway, good luck with your investigations and keep us posted! Take care, Mike Sorry, I almost forgot, Matt please look up information regarding the series of “NOSS” double and triplets manmade artificial satellites, if my memory serves me correctly these look like orbs in the sky travelling together in close formation, on occasions these can become quite bright depending on the observers location on Earth, orbital characteristics, angle of the sun etc. It’s been a while ago so I am not sure of the current status of these series of satellites. There is in all probability a lot of manmade “stuff” up there that you or I are not privy too, even though they are observed/recorded on occasions by members of the public, example: http://sonotaco.com/image/btn_movie.gif | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 303 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello dyson, why should i read the links you provide when you do not accept those offers which i provide? i have videos of orbs too, but you dont want to see. you only get what you give. you can call it want you want but you do have a hostile personality, you can write anything yo want to that but it does not change a thing. leave me alone because it's beggining to feel like abuse. you dont want to view my materials yet you want me to view yours. get real and reasonable if you want to continue a discussion. hello mike it is interesting you should mention all that about the way we percieve as being seperate from our surrounding reality etc. i have studied and dug deep into matters that have to do with things along the line of energy manifestation and intereaction of things around me etc, like reaction of cloud formations around me to my thoughts etc. i could write a whole bunch of stuff here, but there are some who would jump right on that, as i would not have proof etc, and some people cant just sit back and look at things and consider them, some people who think they got all the facts figure out will just be on the hunt so to speak. i for a long time felt energy around you can be shaped and molded to your own will. i have had many experiences of strange happenings and i have shared them with some. there are people who are understanding and sharp, they make a good conversation without demands etc. last night around 11:35 i had the thought "i wonder if anybody out there in space can pick up on my thoughts" "i wonder if i will see a ufo todnight"... moments later i looked up at the sky and seen a white solid light, then it started moving around moving foreward, as soon as i tried to point it out to my brother, it faded away. as if it didnt want my brother to see (although my brother has seen much strange lights etc when with me at night). then he said "well maybe they dont want me to see them, maybe it was meant for you". that got me thinking. anyway mike, i have looked at the reality around me in a very deep and respectfull manner. i have seen many beautiful and strange things. you can be happy knowing i am studying my life and the reality around me with great curiosity and positive intent. thanks for your opinions and advice. if you like i can share some things i have seen or expeirenced through email between you and i, that's only if your interested. but there's no pressuse to do so from me. i have long felt like somebodies had their eye on me and i always seem to be in the right place right time, so whoever said usually you see ufo's etc at unexpected moments, or something to that effect, has not stood in my shoes. i think there's some group that is seeking out people that want to discover about this stuff, and give us some "gifts" so to speak, something that helps us think of relavant ideas and such. today im going to take some pictures, it's sunny and day time over here in my neck of the woods. maybe i'll catch something. if i do i' will post it here. have a good day mike and yes, i will read all the info related to the links you provide me. i already checked some of the photo's and it's remarkable how they mirror my photo's (ones i didnt even try to post here). take care | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2007 |
Sorry Matt, try this link… http://sonotaco.com/sample/etc/e_index.html Sixth video from top Regards Mike | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 495 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Mike Wo Mike they are very intelligent questions that professional investigators would ask and thanking you for another map. I think I did the right thing posting the clip for other members here to see. Its always reassuring to have peer review and their shared thoughts and observations. As for following it up Mike, I am afraid its a daunting and time consuming task for so little. Had I captured my major sighting I had last year, it was that compelling I would've moved heaven and earth to get to the bottom of it but for some reason these wise extraterrestrials mesmerised all of us to the point where not even one decent photo could be taken, besides had we done so, we would given away far too much information, so I think it was for our own protection that they didn't allow any photos or video to be taken. But its very good suggestions that I would definitely take into consideration if I had another chance at filming something more compelling. Thanks for the link btw Mike. Unlike what I had seen on this link, the orbs I had observed very high up the sky did not follow a straight course of trajectory but seem to change course not uniformly like a delayed reaction of one car trying to follow another. One satellite blinked quite fiercely whilst in one instance there were multitude of satellites crossing one path of the sky to another. I don't know how many satellites are currently stationed on earth orbit but I dare say, it must number in their hundreds if not thousands. Anyway Mike thanks kindly for the suggestion,you are a very bright person. cheers Matt | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hey Matt no problem, If it is OK I would like to make additional suggestions regarding any future sightings you may have (probably goes for a number of people here as well by the looks of things). It is obvious that you have witnessed unusual aerial phenomena in the past/recent past and will also (probably) in the future; my suggestions would be the following if it is practical to you… Keep a camera/video close at hand (remember to use optical zoom setting as much as possible, gives better resolution), Bring a small pocket notepad and pen Carry a small light torch (even one attached to your car keys if you drive) And if an unusual aerial phenomenon appears, try to video and/or capture it on camera, make note of the time, direction, elevation, brightness, shape, colour/s, duration of sighting, weather factors, noises (or lack of), etc as soon as possible after the event (fresh in your mind). If other people are in the area call attention and ask to confirm what you are seeing. Obtain names and addresses of people [with their permission if they are willing to do so]. Even if you do not wish to officially report such sightings (I would recommend that you do to a reputable UFO research group), you will eventually have enough data and images built up to keep you busy trying to figure out if this phenomenon is happening at certain times of the year, month or week etc,, the more images you build up over time will thus enable you to compare and see if the object/s you are witnessing look the same or if there are variations (structure, brightness, colour etc). The next step I think you might like! This is a very general overview, think of it as a simple experiment. Try to interact using your consciousness (this is the prime factor, perhaps the only one) directed at the phenomenon you are observing. Use “Pure Intention” (I would like to interact with you), “Project” this thoughtful neutral intention in a clear way to the object/s in a very conscious manner (ego balance is important), wait a few moments (holding your awareness of time, place and space), ask the object/s to stop, or circle, or reverse, something that would confirm feedback from the object/s to you. This may take practice over time (although some people seem to have a natural disposition for this) even if you do not see anything unusual, try this technique in an open but quite place when you have time, preferably in nature (this will enhance your experience, i.e., working WITH nature), its just a matter of exploration, who knows, you may even have some fun exploring and the previous paragraphs become unimportant for you as you progress as a matter of personal development. You may find better ways and techniques that work for you. Matt, this stuff is not new, I believe Dr. Steven Greer teaches similar techniques; in particular please view, CE-V initiative, human initiated mutual, bilateral communication with ETI, http://www.cseti.org/ce5.htm for another aspect of what I am talking about. He makes additional use of equipment such as bright lamps, lasers, sound recordings (UFO sounds) to entice craft into a specific area working with small groups of people. I believe, but I am not sure about this, is that he also teaches and uses certain remote viewing protocols as part of this initiative (I still haven’t figured that one out yet!). Although I have not taken part in this “CE-V initiative” I would be very interested in doing so this year and it’s just because I am curious person. One thing is for sure (well in my opinion anyway) is that developing ones consciousness is the primary key for this work, it doesn’t matter if you take this work on yourself or go on a week long course with Dr. Greer etc. It is my viewpoint that consciousness is the one thing we share with all sentient beings through space and time, it is the common denominator. It would be interesting if anyone else on the forum has similar ideas or has completed similar work or indeed has attended the week long CE-V initiative training and could give some information (although strangely, this would break their non-disclosure agreement with Dr. Greer and his institute as is the agreement you sign before commencement of the training). Take care Matt, Scott, again I must apologise for the long post and my ramblings not sure where this is going! | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 678 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, Following the Golden Rule, I like to allow my fellow Earth humans as much psychic freedom as they like, and only think intercession is called for when I see something potentially very dangerous brewing to which these terrestrials are presumably unaware. I’m referring to naively courting MILABS (Military Abductions). www.gaiaguys.net/lammer.htm I think that encouraging people here on the FIGU forum either tacitly or openly to go out into the night a la CSETI, etc. trying to attract UFO’s is damned dangerous, particularly in the USA, which bristles with military bases, both overt and covert, like an armed camp, and has a long history of torturous secret experimentation on innocent bystanders. I have confidence in the integrity of the Plejaren who have taught me a lot, and almost all of it seems 100% consistent with what I learned from numerous independent sources. For those new here, I strongly suggest that you read: www.gaiaguys.net/meierv7p438-444.htm www.figu.org/de/figu/bulletin/s25/the_newest.htm slowly and thoughtfully, bearing in mind that when Ptaah says, “…disturbances of consciousness brought forth through the interference of electromagnetic fields of the earth, through which unrealities, unreal happenings as well as unreal memories and unreal experiences are caused, but also unreal pain, fear and unreal perceptions and so forth. The disrupted electromagnetic fields of the earth have been the cause of the untrue memories …”, he is referring to telenotic (mind control) devices. This from page 2 of Guido Moosbrugger’s And Yet They Fly www.gaiaguys.net/andyettheyfly.htm ---------- Unconscious Deception Through Suggestion from an Outer Source This is evoked through the use of spiritual [poorly translated word, “geistiges” = mental, mind, etc.] forces with or without the aid of appropriate implements, and is yet another example of how inauthentic UFO sightings can be initiated. The persons affected are firmly convinced that they have sensed or personally experienced something, which in no way conforms to the actual facts. These unsuspecting people have reported extraterrestrial encounters of the first, second or third kind, trips into outer space, and other similar stories. In reality, they were led to believe this entire hocus-pocus by unknown persons (i.e., by way of teleprojection or real vision)* in such a convincing manner that they, unfortunately, were unable to recognize the unreality at the bottom of it all. Of course, it would not be fair to label such people as liars. They are completely unaware that unknown forces are misusing them for some reason or another. *Real visions are controllable visions (illusions) that, depending on the wish of the perpetrator, convey certain impressions or experiences to other persons (unaware of this for the most part). The entire incident appears in the form of illusions that are just as real and just as lasting as they would be in reality. As a rule, the real vision cannot be distinguished from reality. ---------- If you’re lucky you might attract that. If not you might get a REAL anal probe for your efforts, if not something far worse from the cloned fake “aliens” cruising around in their fake “alien” electrogravitic UFOs looking for guinea pigs. Vivienne and I have talked with people we take to be genuine abduction victims. I don’t recommend the experiences, which are often repeated in order to follow up the initial impregnation, surgery, etc. Ignorance may be bliss, but what you don’t know CAN hurt you. If you want to do it anyway, and you do not accept what the Plejaren and the Disclosure Project have to say on the matter, you will find the “Prepare 4 Contact” forum very welcoming, or if you have a bit too much cash on hand, join CSETI. Salome, Dyson | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 210 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello Dyson and everyone. I may have misinterpreted you Dyson, but if you meant to say that people are abducted and then impregnated, they Billy differs from your point of view. In the contact notes, it was Ptaah I believe, that said that there are NO impregnations at all occuring in relation to so called abductions. Just wanted to mention that in case you hadn't yet read that contact note... | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 500 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Mike Yeah I've heard about the course on offer by Dr Greer's disclosureproject. I can't refute it either way of it's veracity or legitimacy. Dr greer says he made contact with ETs The phoenix mega triangular craft coincided with Dr Greer's presence that night there and he said his group brought about the ET craft presence. Some members here may disagree with me on this but charging for a course that teaches how to contact aliens goes against the highest principles of the initiative. It reeks of snake oil and it appears no different to ludicrous prepare4contact initiative. This is the way I feel about it Mike although anyone can disagree with me. Since I haven't experienced the course, my opinions are just an assumption. I don't think there exists a two way process to possible ET contact initiative because it's entirely at ETs discretion who decides which earthling would be befitting of a possible contact or sighting. So any attempt is just quakery since ETs have unfathomable technology to get inside your head and measure every atom and molecules in your brain, therefore no knowledge about the individual dispositions, inclinations, personality, attitude, thoughts etc is barred from them. So the conclusion always comes down to how hard is the individual fighting for the truth and spirituality within themselves and without which makes them worthy of possible contact. If the person has the capacity and has worked hard on himself to the point where its conducive for the ETs to initiate some form of possible sighting or contact, then I guess they'll do it on their terms and nobody else's. But tell us all about it Mike after you've been through the program and let us know what it was like. It sounds interesting. I've read up on a person's experience of it in another forum and he said it was no big deal. ps I'll keep your very intelligent suggestions in mind Mike and use the approach when need be, if ever it happens again. Thanks cheers Matt | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 501 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Dyson Dyson, what would you attribute the sightings you've had several years ago in your homestead? Would you attribute it to real ETs or secret governmental craft or telenotic electromagnetic interference from earthly technical devices? What was the movement like, was it bright, big, very close by or like a speck of light in the far distant? Just as I had felt a slight tap on my head and precognition sense that they'd arrived before the sighting, did you get a similar sense before your sighting? It must have happened serendipitously and unexpectedly. Often the common experience for people who had sightings were this unconscious urge that led them to the particular scenario. cheers Matt | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 683 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Thomas, Yes, I think you may have interpreted me, but I DID mean to say that people are abducted and impregnated, etc., only NOT by EXTRATERRESTRIALS. What I wrote was not my "point of view" and I supported it with excerpts and sources from the FIGU material. You can prove it to yourself if you like, but I cannot prove it TO you. Have you read www.gaiaguys.net/meier.truth.htm ? I've read up to book 8, which is as far as they go for now. (We don’t buy the uncorrected “Semjase Blocks” because they are not suitable for our translations.) Ptaah and the other Plejaren have said repeatedly that there are no “abductions” by EXTRATERRESTRIALS. They have also said repeatedly that they generally do not make comments about secret illegal terrestrial military activities. Please see www.gaiagiuys.net/BlackTriangles.htm If you think that what they say about these illegal “black” research/psyops programs by the “Unacknowledged Special Access Projects” (USAPs) - touched upon in the links I provided above - is not true, that is of course your prerogative, but it is quite wrong to imply here, is if it were true, that the Plejaren are saying that these hoaxed “ET” abduction do not exist at the hands of the terrestrial military industrial complex. Big difference. “No extraterrestrial abductions” does not mean “No abductions”. One word can make all the difference sometimes. "Doch auch nicht genug damit, denn noch viele andere und oft klar als schwachsinnig zu erkennende Behauptungen, Verleumdungen und Lügen wurden aufgestellt, durch die die Menschen in die Irre geführt und in Angst und Schrecken versetzt werden sollten, was auch vielfach gelungen ist und bestimmte Massenhysterien bei einer weltweiten Gruppe bestimmter Erdenmenschen ausgelöst hat, was auch zu Hassgefühlen usw. führte." (Yet even that is not enough, because still many other assertions, slanderings and lies, and clearly to be recognised as feebleminded, are put about, through which the humans are led into error and would be shifted into angst and terror, as has had manifold success, and certain mass hysteria has been released by a worldwide group of certain earth humans, which also leads to feelings of hate, etc.) From: http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv7p438-444.htm Thomas, to whom do you think Billy is referring, when he writes, "a worldwide group of certain earth humans"? I wonder if you have looked into the Disclosure Project witness testimonies at all, or logically investigated MILABS, and if you have, what is your opinion? Have you spoken with any of the victims? Do you not accept the Congressional testimony which established that evil US scientists secretly sprinkled plutonium on orphans' breakfast cereal to see what would happen? "Abductions" are not ET, but part of the terror war being waged against us since time immemorial by the enemies of truth, being "a worldwide group of certain earth humans". Salome, Dyson | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2007 |
Dyson, your concerns are duly noted. Thank you for your projections, thoughts, information and the links you have provided. Perhaps it is fortunate that I do not live in America, (or unfortunate depending on ones point of view). Wisdom and prudence of course should prevail in any undertaking (without writing a disclaimer as complicated as an E.U. constitution for every message I post). I agree with the golden rule as you have put it. I think an individuals “free will” or indeed “free won’t” in the choices thereof one must make in all matters and aspects of life, including the choice of directly exploring the question of ET visitation, even if one chooses to comprehend any risks if they exist or not. Dyson, Ignorance is not an approximation of bliss, I believe this detracts from the human beings endeavour to explore the very universe (inwardly and outwardly) he /she is an integral part off, it’s the “Don’t know” statement that will be eliminated from this endeavour eventually to “Do know”. With kind regards Mike | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 688 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Matt, "The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully* disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret." I think they deserve our fullest support, and should in NO WAY be confused with CSETI ("Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence"), which is a religiously deluded fraud, seemingly now bent on to DISCREDITING the heroic Disclosure Project witnesses. I think they deserve criminal prosecution. www.gaiaguys.net/csetineestoknow.htm I’ll write up a little about some of our UFO sightings, if you like, but I’d guess they were terrestrial. What difference would it make anyway? They're just vehicles. Bit busy just now, sorry. I'll try to get back asap. Salome, Dyson * delete that word, "fully". :-( | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 505 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Melli Bianca Sorry Bianca, just as I was backtracking, I'd noticed your reply post 257 neatly tucked away in between Dyson and Mike's posts which I'd missed. Yes life is treating me according to how I make of it, some days it's confusing, numb, frustrating and I would be totally lost in the deep recess of my chaotic mind whilst on other days I am free as a bird in oneness with everything around me, at peace and harmony with myself and that of the world. It's interesting that you mention a cigar shaped UFO because to this day I have yet to come across information regarding terrestrial made cigar shaped craft, so your gut feeling must be correct in that they are ET ufos. Can you elaborate further on your sighting Bianca, did you have opportune moment of taking a quick snap? How big was it or how far away? From which location of the Byron bay did you see this, was it near the town right where the esplanade is? With any UFO sighting these days, the money shot does count more than anything to verify to others of its veracity cos as you know the tendencies of the mass belief driven psychosis has pervasively infected many a minds that always seek proof proof and more physical proof and when you give it to em they want more physical proof to authenticate the original proof until it becomes a shallow game of trying to satisfy the basic human nature of that which is insatiable. I gather that that is the ugly head of belief driven mentality that always seeks to fit the non-fitable to the very limited scope of limited beliefs that once something transcends it, rather than opening their mind up wider to accomodate the new reality, it does the opposite and tries to come to terms with it by denying it, summarily dismissing it or even trashing it. Where in good company Bianca, at least most of us here have learned to transcend such boxed mentality and can speak freely without someone giving us their small box for us to fit into. Anyway if you do happen to see this post, please share your experience you've had over at the Rael territory, I am all ears and mind. cheers Bianca regards Matt | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 232 Registered: 07-2004 |
Any attempts at making extraterrestrials appear dangerous by creating these faked abductions, examinations, or fear inducing encounters, are part of the program for the new "enemy". The Cold War Russian "enemy" helped us make lots of nukes, and currently the terrorists "enemy" is helping remove all the liberty's and constitutional protections that hinder the absolute take-over of the US Gov, and allow our military to hunt in any country they 'think' has terrorists activities. And all this scary 'alien' hype will build the future "enemy", so we can openly put more weapons in space( the hidden ones are hard to intimidate other nations with) to guarantee the USA's ultimate military superiority. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hi Matt, hope you are well, sorry for replying a bit late. You must of course decide for yourself what “fits well” for you regarding the views, advice and information presented by the many people here on the broad and complex subject of UFOs and sightings You must do this as best you can to the fullest of your reasoning. You must decide based on this reasoning what to do next (or what not to do), what is logical, what is illogical, it will be your decision, no one else can decide this for you (I am sure that you are very aware of this already). The “free will” or “free won’t” aspect we all have to face. Matt, I do not endorse CSETI methodologies, nor do I dismiss CSETI methodologies, from a neutral viewpoint it is simply a matter (for me) of exploring another aspect of the UFO phenomenon and learning from it, to incorporate it into ones learning experiences and to disseminate this experience with fellow peers for any validations of those methodologies. After many years involvement in the question of ET visitation my experiences and learning have been positive and perhaps an aspect of naivety has crept in regarding the ET question from this. Dyson has rightly pointed out the dangers that exist and this should be heeded; I think we do unfortunately have more to fear from our fellow Earth humans. With kind regards Mike | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 691 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Matt, (et al), You asked me about the UFO’s we’ve seen here. I’ll just give you a brief history. The first ones I ever (knowingly) saw were in Germany on my Air Traffic Control radar monitors, as I recount here www.gaiaguys.net/radar.story.htm After that, for several reasons, I didn’t think about them much more, but many years later, when I discovered that so-called “crop circles” (I prefer the expression “field forms” www.gaiaguys.net/fields.htm) illustrated Euclidian geometry theorems which Euclid had never described, I was thunderstruck that “They” (ETs) seemed to be making open contact. I’d always assumed they would remain behind the scenes, where they seemed most comfortable, in my lifetime anyway. Let me hasten to add that FIGU now once again distances itself from its recent claims that crop circles are ET … sort of. And “originally” they said they were simple prosaic hoaxes, then changed their minds, then changed their minds again. As far as we are aware, www.gaiaguys.net/Meier.puzzlesolution.htm describes the current official Plejaren position. But remember what Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer wrote about FIGU’s position on Apollo 11? www.gaiaguys.net/Meier.Mondv6p70.htm “Es ist ein schöpferisches Gesetz, dass sich fruchtbarer Samen allmählich im stillen entwickelt, um eines Tages kraftvoll ans Licht der Welt zu stossen.“ (It is a creational law that fertile seeds gradually, quietly develop to one day powerfully thrust into the light of the world.) See also the first 21 verses of TJ Ch15. Anyway, back to the lights in the sky. The first one was just that, interacting with an aircraft – and I’ve described the experience on this forum already. Then both Vivienne and I saw the daytime one, down in Coffs Harbour, which I think I’ve also described here. And one day we photographed “something” which is on this page: www.gaiaguys.net/hotlineupdate11.2.03.htm Our (5) neighbors saw something which they say looked like a bright slivery metallic needle going low and fast over our clearing on one occasion, when I happened to be outdoors, with Vivienne, playing the theme from Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind on the tuba (as one does). :-) We were under a big leafy tree so we saw nothing. The ones I haven’t publicly mentioned were/are perhaps the most unsettling for me because they look like bright white stars (appearing alone), which fade out of view within a few seconds of me staring at them. There have been three of them. I mentioned these experiences to Michael Horn, who took it upon himself to ask Billy at the SSSC, but Billy said he didn’t know what they were. Neither do I and I can’t remember reading anything about that in the ufology literature, but contact 343 makes a brief mention of that being a Plejaren camouflage technique. I don’t know why they would do that when they have better methods, and I don’t have any reason to believe that what I saw was ET. And it’s not that important to me anyway, since the treasure is in the teachings, (and within) not up in the heavens somewhere anyway. I never got any odd impulses to look up at any stage. The very weirdest thing Vivienne and I have ever seen here in the UFO department was a very low-flying Huey helicopter which flew straight over us, so we both got a very good look at it, and I even had binoculars. It was VERY VERY loud – very unusually so – and by the time it came over the tree line it was going “bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG” – deafeningly - until is passed over us, as which time – as it departed – we could hardly hear the engine, and all there was to hear were the WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh” of the rotor blades. It was as if, instead of a muffler, it had a megaphone pointing forward. This is very weird, and I know a LOT about how this model of helicopter sounds at very low altitiude, because the Army used my radar unit as a guide marker when practicing landing, etc. But that’s not the really weird bit. When we compared notes, I had definitely seen dark green combat camouflage and Vivienne had definitely seen blue and gold livery. If we didn’t know what kind of technology the USAPs have, we’d still be arguing about it (without acrimony, of course!) and probably be seriously doubting each other’s sanity. Although not UFO’s per se, the crop circle coincidences are – as far as we know – unique and with almost NO plausible deniability. www.gaiaguys.net/Disclosure&cropcircles.htm Did the first 2002 U.K. crop circles coincide with our Australian Disclosure Project information nights, or was it just astronomically unlikely chance? Why do we so readily reject that which is in front of our eyes? According to the renewed teachings, Earth humans have eyes, but we cannot see, and ears, but we cannot hear. In that regard, you also asked, Matt, about anti-gravity and free energy. www.gaiaguys.net/masons.vacuons.htm & www.gaiaguys.net/minato.htm There are indeed various backyard inventors doing this stuff, (seek on the www and you shall find) but I reckon it’s like this: anyone smart enough to make his own flying saucer or fuelless car, etc. is ALSO going to be smart enough not to brag about it or take his beamship up into commercial airspace. You know what I mean? That would be dangerously stupid. Even trying to buy lots of fancy high-gauss magnets in any quantity is likely to get you in trouble, in my opinion. There are bad dudes out there. Salome, Dyson P.S. Well put, Shawn, as usual. Did you see these? www.gaiaguys.net/greer_warning_of_hoax.htm & www.gaiaguys.net/DP.NASA.HOAX.htm Incidentally, all the (offensive) SDI stuff and (defensive) deep hard underground cities are not worth a pinch of poop with scalar weapons around and the thing that pulverized the WTC. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 506 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Mike Yeah Mike we do have a lot to fear from the calumny of our own fellow human beings than any possible ET attack and I agree with you. I think your attitude towards the question of UFOs is definitely a sound approach I have no problems relating to. Afterall, there are many guises often unrecognised which various important learning lessons are cloaked under for which for those that seek hard enough to see the light, do actually come away and see the light. In regards to CSETI, I don't know enough to judge accurately other than speculate from what I've read thus far that the body organisation is infiltrated by agent provocateurs and saboteurs doing their dirty deed behind closed doors. Anyway it's definitely a fascinating subject. cheers Matt | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 507 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Dyson Thanks Dyson for sharing your fascinating experiences, its definitely a window to your rich life that seemed to be filled with many out of this world happenings. I am of the opinion that UFO sightings are a very important integral part of the whole which makes up our experiences of the world at this juncture. Seeing as in Guido's book 'And they still fly', the Ets intentions are to keep the mystery alive therefore the controversy over the topic of ufology, slowly but surely being integrated into the very fabric of our own existence to one day arrive at a culminating point at which everything will be revealed serves a purpose in two fold. One being we humanity are not of this earth and by ETs continuously making themselves known albeit with much plausible deniability factor integrated, all the other fantastic reality associated with their existence and how it relates to us humanity must be known sooner or later. Second point being if there were no reasons for them to show themselves, they would not have done so and I gather there are multitude of reasons why but when you have a look at the background of most ufological fraternity of personalities that devote their lives to investigating the UFO reality, not all but most of them had at one point or another, an experience that was so out of the ordinary that gave rise to such motivation and impetus to find some answers to this perplexing puzzle therefore their contribution towards enlightening the masses could not have happened had they not either become interested in the subject for one reason or another or that they never had a sighting. Case in point being Jose Escamillia who created the UFO documentary 'The greatest secret ever denied' Among countless UFOs crafts filmed by him, I gather that at least certain percentage is definitely extraterrestrial, yet one must ask why of all the people on this world does he have disproportionate amount of UFO sighting compared to others. Its logical to conclude that either he was one of those people chosen for the task of enlightening the masses with the realities of ETs or that such person as he had the prerequisite conducive for the ETs to use him to let themselves be known and to further help the overall mission of enlightening the masses at this juncture to sow many seeds to bear fruit further along the future. So every person like you and I Dyson and many others here and elsewhere who has ever had such anomalous sighting adds to the overall consciousness of the realities of ETs that at some point in our lives must serve an important precursor to something much more important. So I guess every experience counts It definitely starts at the grassroots and at some point there must exist a culmination point where especially the major governments cannot but be forced to disclose the realities of the existence of ETs and all facts both past and present related to it. It'll be the day I rejoice with so much happiness at such an outcome if it were to happen in my lifetime although I am not holding my breath. cheers Matt | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 696 Registered: 03-2004 |
Matt. You write, "the major governments cannot but be forced to disclose the realities of the existence of ETs and all facts both past and present related to it." Most of what goes on in the fake ET realm is not "government" per se, but military/industrial, privatized, supranational corporate, compartmentalized, need-to-know. The "governments" (OBVIOUSLY) don't "need" to know, because it is a vast criminal enterprise, and the perpetrators would then be prosecuted! Legislators are the MOST ignorant of the LOT of us! Wait'll you see SB34! WOW! Details underway on the who, how and why of all these fake ET abductions, anti-gravity craft, fake little grays, cattle mutilations, brainwashing/mind-control beams, etc. etc. Billy’s known for 22 years! (I’ve only known this for the last 6.) Major info coming! Salome, Dyson | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 263 Registered: 06-2005 |
Dear Matt, your post #505 Sat 7 - about my Cigar Ufo sighting in Byron Jan. 2006: I was standing at the supermarket carpark and I couldn't but clearly see it. It was infront of my eyes literally rising at a 35 degree angle (sorry, not 45 degree)in the blue sky it had a vibrant orange glow and a white/grey smoke like tail and it took about 10 (?)seconds until it vanished. I didn't have any intuitive prompting to look at the sky, it was just there for anyone to see. I must say that I would really like to see a 'true IFO" but knowing what I now know my chances are very slim and I am speaking from an intuitive perception. I am pretty sure that next time if I see another UFO it will be none other than a military/government one and sadly so. Bianca | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 519 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Bianca You wrote---------- I am pretty sure that next time if I see another UFO it will be none other than a military/government one and sadly so. What prompted you to come up with this conclusion Bianca? Do you think that you're under surveillance? Or Since the plejarens & federation have drastically reduced their activities here on earth that you find slim chance of seeing a real ET craft? cheers Matt | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 266 Registered: 06-2005 |
Hi Matt, Why this conclusion? your last paragraph rings true for me. You know I was in the dumps for ages...and 'going nuts' trying to figure out how to get rid of daily stupid and defeating monologues, well... it's history now but for some strange reason I still feel this bigger obstacle around the time when we have FUll Moon. Does anyone have an explanation as to why one would feel down or irritated or angry, anxious etc.? BUT yes I am being monitored as probably every 4 or 5th person is. Have you read the translations about microsoft dirty works? Why isn't LINUX up there with the best yet? wouldn't they put a damper on microsoft with their hardware, I wonder? AND my email is monitored daily, I will give you an example: every time I change my password within a day it gets hijacked, files have been deleted of my computer in the past. My emails reach their destination only 2 or 3 days later never instantly or almost instantly that is when 'certain' issues are discussed. My house phone is still 'bugged' and has been for about 6 years now, I hear it being switched on and off and it makes a hissing noise. Occaisionally I will leave Semjase's Beam ship sound going on for hours for them to hear or sometimes I will leave the Classical station on for hours, or the Peace Mediatation, just for Fun! But you know I don't care any longer that they are in my house, I have a stronger tool to help me cope or worry about their daily intrusions: The Spirit Prayer and the 12 Affirmations do miraculous WONDERS to one's psyche, consciousness and sub-consciousness. TRY IT, IT"S FREE! IT"S LIBERATING! But I still need to understand the WHYs and that's where Dyson 's explanations make clear sense and balance out my concerns and my hopes for the future, especially the children. Thanks Dyson once again and every little bit helps. CHEERS, Bianca | ||
Michael_d Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hello Bianca, The moon rules emotions so, according to astrology, the position of this "planet" in the constellations when you were born could provide some insights. Because the moon moves rather rapidly, about 13 degrees per day, you need an accurate time of birth for a chart analysis, including this planet, to be meaningful. Additionally, the moon rules women, so this planet could be especially meaningful for you. www.astro.com is a good site for a free, basic chart analysis. They also now have a discussion forum there where it’s possible to get assistance from astrologers with the analysis of your personal chart. I don’t know how well that system works because I haven’t tried it yet. But just remember, the people over there know nothing of Billy Meier and his teachings, so you might see some crazy theories espoused. I just bite my tongue. Good luck on your journey! | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1158 Registered: 12-1999 |
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Newinitiation Member Post Number: 526 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Melli Bianca, I don't know if this is a strange coincidence about your Byron Bay sighting but check this out, this picture was posted 14/4/07 and the actual photo was taken on the 10/4/07 http://www.rense.com/general76/bril.htm It appears from your description of your sighting, this nearly fits the bill. Strange aint it. There are other instances where for some strange coincidences our FIGU discussions of a particular topic precedes certain TV programs here in Australia by several days or weeks. Aint that funny I wonder if we can pick up on the thoughts of others whilst we are in a meditative state and the first thought that we seem to pick up is actually a genuine thought from the collective. Even the way the language is used, the vocabularies and the structure of wording reflects more the spiritual sentiments. anyway the coincidence of it all prompted me to put this up Bianca. Hope you find it interesting Cheers matt | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 268 Registered: 06-2005 |
Hey Matt, Coincidence? Interesting hey? I like to call it Social Engineering. But what you just mentioned that "There are other instances where for some strange coincidences our FIGU discussions of a particular topic precedes certain TV programs here in Australia by several days or weeks. Even the way the language is used, the vocabularies and the structure of wording reflects more the spiritual sentiments"... Funny you should notice, Matt. I thought I was imagening things at the beginning but then it happens too often to be a coincidence. I thought why is it that my ideas or thoughts are indeed published over the airwaves? How could 'they' know? I hardly watch TV any more but the coincidences appear to happen JUST when I turn on the TV as if I am prompted to do it because something will be on for Me to hear. This I don't like! But nowadays it's easily remedied - The Spirit Prayer is indeed fortifying and strengthening, and I could not emphasize the practice any stronger than I already did many times before. I am not convinced about the 'spiritual sentiments', I think it's the opposite in fact but I don't care any longer. I could tell you a few 'strange' ocurrences that happen to me a few years back but not here maybe one day under a tree. The mere fact that my phone has been tapped for years just supports my idea that by listening to people's converstaions, the crooks do their Social Engineering' the easy way and even my family have noticed and are rather surprised but I won't spoil it for them by offerring an explantion. Want to cheer up quickly? have you got a CD called "Monthy Python sings Monthy Python? are you musical-try singing this tune; "Always look on the bright side of life"... Cheers Bianca | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 532 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Melli No Bianca I don't have the monty python sings monty python and never heard of it but I'll find out seeing as you are recommending it Bianca, I am sure its worth the while. So did the picture in the link look similar to what you've witnessed Bianca? cheers Matt | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 269 Registered: 06-2005 |
Hey Matt, If you don't have the CD I can make a copy for you, email me if you like and let me know, my email is somewhere in the archives. The UFO over Byron in the link is of a circular shape as far as I can tell, but what I saw was a clear Cigar shape. Bianca | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 538 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Melli and forum Thanks Bianca my e-mail is newinitiation@yahoo.com Wow, another brief sighting Bianca right about 5 minutes ago in Melbourne time. Call me an attention seeking freak, I really don't mind but having gone outside for a breather, in an instant I jerked my head up to look at the sky, a sizeable disc just flashed very brightly high up in the sky and disappeared into the dense overcast clouds. Now following this a small plane I see over the horizon has taken off from either the essendon airport or the Melbourne airport itself and doing the bend towards the direction of where the large disc had been. Few moments later what looked to be a disc object further away was seen flying from west to easterly direction behind the veil of a thin section of clouds. Yet as crazy as it sound, Last night I had made a thought request for the UFO to show some sign and actually strongly urged it even if it served no important purpose other than just myself longing to see them again. Now I know what the proverbial reaction is to this post but what is the truth is the truth and I gather that the purpose of such disclosure on my part is that any ufo sighting still holds such fascinating qualities to which I would gather that fellow forum members here could also bring about such an outcome if they give it a go. Obviously most of us here are informed of what possibilities entails such sighting from the FIGU literature and it could even be brought about through one's own wishful thinking and nothing more BUT my emphasis here is that such process itself, if some results are brought about attests to the possibilities afforded to this group and it just maybe a window of opportunity for such group as ourselves to at least connect with ETs. The likely chance that although we don't apportion any specialness to our own persons in an egotistical way, it does send a message to us that indeed our activities could possibly be monitored by the ETs irrespective of how insignificant we are to the bigger picture of the mission. Yet just as every grain of sand is needed to make up the sandy beach lying ashore, I am sure every devotee to the mission is part of the greater organism. I've been thinking about the morphic field theory supported by Rupert Sheldrake and I believe that all of us here are connected in our own FIGU collective consciousness where the sense of synchronicity is more pronounced as to make it more than a coincidence that what we thought about yesterday or preceeding days, some fellow forum members have written about as if they had ripped it out of our heads and extricated it for their use. There is just no other plausible explanation. anyway my sighting wasn't the garden variety 'aeroplane light' mistaken for a UFO, it was too bright and too big a flash. just take it for what you will fellas and gals, I only shared my experience as it happen or as I saw it. cheers Matt | ||
James Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Matt, I may have seen an object similar to your account. This was last week Tuesday April 10 around 8pm in Melbourne. It was at night and the sky was clear so I could see the stars. I was watching for satellites as I sometimes do, when I twisted my head around and see what I thought was a really bright star. It quickly got smaller and less bright and then was moving across like a satellite, and over about a minute it faded away. I don't know if it was moving up as well as across, but the dimming may have created that illusion. This did not have flashing lights like a plane, just a single solid light that started off very bright and quickly diminished into something like a satellite object. It was too high for a helicopter and moved too fast to be a baloon/blimp. It may have been a military craft but I don't know how their lights work. I haven't seen anything unusual in the night sky before, so I could count this as my first "UFO" sighting. Welcome to Earth! | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 540 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear James Fascinating James, oh and I forgot, you are one other Melburnian among us. What time was the sighting James, cos around I think 9-9.30pm the usual satellite streaks past out Melbourne skies from east to west and I have yet to see others in a different time. One day when I have the opportunity, I'd like to go to the outback again and see the magnificent star lit sky, it'll be awesome. Anyway good to hear from you. cheers Matt | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hey Matt, wow! I really wish I could meet you for tea face to face to discuss such matters on the UFO phenomenon my friend! Many thanks for sharing your experiences and I feel you have worded such experiences with truthful intent; I am glad that your UFO accounts and introspections on this matter are placed here on the forum; this takes courage and thoughtful reflection in my opinion. While it is always prudent to be careful in placing ones toes in the vast ocean of the unknown and good advice from people is of course always welcomed, it is ultimately up to you on how to learn and progress further based on such advice, learning, logic and personal experiences relating to this aspect of our reality. For me, after these many years when I first placed my toes in the ocean of the unknown relating to the ET question I have gained positive experiences and knowledge that would have otherwise remained unknown to me and indeed the many wonderful people (interested laypeople to scientists) I have met and conversed with on the subject of ET visitation would also be unknown to me. I for one am glad that I have gotten my toes wet, but I have a long way to go before I can swim, such is the spirit of the human endeavour to discover this wonderful universe despite the risks, known and unknown! Strange synchronicity Matt that you mentioned in your last paragraph, you may not believe this but I have just finished a book yesterday by Rupert Sheldrake entitled: “The Sense of Being Stared At” And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind” perhaps I have picked up on your Morphic field resonance(example: you were thinking about the work of Rupert Sheldrake and Morphic fields and I was reading about his Morphic field theory maybe at the same time, we are both connected through this forum only [we have never met] and we both have had similar experiences with UFOs) hmmm! All the best Mike | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 542 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Mike Amazing Mike, I was grappling with the same books you've mentioned for several weeks. I've tried out one of the experiments staring at people and my golly it works. Of course there were instances where I might have stared at people a bit too long before I could sense the discomfort from their facial features and them attempting to avoid locking eye to eye with me. I'd noticed that people are rather very sensitive to these stares as mentioned by rupert sheldrakes and often they go at all pains to avoid looking back even if they know you are looking at them. It happens so fast at a subconscious level that before you know consciously that someone was staring at you, you are already locking eye to eye with them. So there must be something there. Thanks for the honest understanding Mike and truly your reflection through your eloquent words spoken indicated to me of your depth of character. Its an amazing world indeed.:-) cheers Matt | ||
James Member Post Number: 46 Registered: 07-2005 |
It was around 8pm Matt, but I usually see satellites (or at least that's what I think they are) very often, maybe every five/ten/fifteen minutes at all times of the night if I'm constantly scanning the sky. Welcome to Earth! | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hey Matt, thank you Just continuing on your interesting viewpoints and the ET question / UFO sightings. I have visited Dr. Sheldrake’s website on a number of occasions and on his website there is a questions and answers section in which he was asked the following question in relation to ET life: Question: “Do you suspect that extraterrestrial life will resemble life on Earth due to the effects of Morphic fields?” Answer: “We know nothing about the diversity of life on other planets, but my expectation is that there might well be Earth-like planets throughout the universe, where Morphic resonance from Earth, and to Earth, plays a role in the evolutionary process”. End quote. His answer was actually longer in reply, but this particular paragraph amazed me when comparing his reply to that of Mr. Meier’s information regarding the home world of Erra (which is Earth like) and to our friends the Plejarens (also Human) and their continuing contacts with Billy, through physical and mental means (effective null time distance). I suspect that Dr. Sheldrake is deeply interested in the subject of ET life and possible visitation but due to his academic position and writings I think he is very careful in what words and thoughts he uses to explain his Morphic Field theory relating to this while concentrating on advancing his theoretical research based on utilizing Earths biodiversity. It’s interesting that he has a small number of links from his website and one of them points to “The Disclosure Project” headed by Dr. Steven Greer. Dr. Sheldrake’s theory is open to question, it has its skeptics, but I am impressed by his continuing work, wherever it may lead, it could be close to the truth or indeed the opposite, perhaps we will know for sure someday! Matt, regarding your UFO sightings, you maybe interested to know that there is continuing research using “off the shelf” camera and video equipment (for recording and capturing images of UFOs), which when modified can yield results in the near infrared region [N-IR] (approx: 700nm +). In other words, while you may have a visual lock on an unknown object and it appears to vanish, the object may still be physically there but lurking beyond that of the humans visual range (approx: 400nm – 700nm) and into another range of frequencies we are not sensitive too. Its interesting work I have just gotten into, I have two N-IR cameras at the moment. Not sure if you want to go that way, but it is another interesting aspect and area of research relating to the UFO phenomenon. All the best Mike | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 548 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear James I'll have another peek James of our pollution enveloped skies and obscuration of suburban lights. Dear Mike Thats very interesting Mike, seeing as Jose Escamillia and the NASA's secret UFO tether incident suggests UFOs of ET origin appear in the infrared spectrum as well, I pondered on the question of how disproportionate Jose's numerous sightings were compared to others and it seems he is one human whose will is aligned to this specific task of hunting UFOs to film them therefore I would imagine such revelation of filming at infrared spectrum could not have come about without the effort of these people nor their creative strategies that continued to seek after avenues of tweaking existing camera technology to make it possible to film at infrared which jose has revealed in 'the greatest secret ever denied'. I for one I don't think is suited to this task as many personal issues and hurdles bound me to a level of limitation that I am slowly freeing myself from such challenges and yet amidst these challenges you learn more about yourself to be met by certain revelation that it is not one's task to actively seek out UFOs to film them but rather approach this from a different angle, a passive one so to speak where if chanced occurence do occur again, seeing this opportunity as a chance to reveal it to the world if and when it occurs. So in that light, I haven't actively sought knowledge in the area of camera technology to have bothered with purchasing and modifying VCs to enable infrared filming. In the end, I think, if I can rightly refer to it as such, I'll leave it up to providence at the bequest of ETs in how they go about their task of revealing their ships as need be according to their own calculations based on ever changing circumstances here on earth. With that said, for a lay person to chance upon such a dialogue as ours would elicit vain condescending burst of laughter on the preposterousness and sheer fanciful sounding notions, but those of us here are here because we have sought the impossible and made what is impossible to others possible in our minds. The challenge is in helping those that cannot see the impossible to see the possibility in the impossible. cheers Matt | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2006 |
 Here is something that was probably not intended to be seen by a human terrestrial like myself in the first place. The sky was packed with big thick puffy clouds, a perfect cover for whoever wanted to be unseen, but at that instant, I looked up and there they were. This was way before I became aware of the Meier case, so it all remained a mystery for quite some time. Then all of a sudden, one after the other, they shot away like little speedy silver bullets. Pure magic, I kind of just went blank, my idea of what the world was supposed to be was completely shattered! (When delusion is confronted by truth, the weaker one will always crumble.) | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 311 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey moderator/s, i was wondering how to post a bigger picture like some people do here, i only seem to be able to post smaller ones. i have a really beautiful picture that i would like to share in it's entire form, can you help me? and i write in this section as the photo relates to this section. can someone please help? thanks | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 286 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Peter you should use an image editor software (like Photoshop) to change the size (cm, inches, etc) of an image without it being too "heavy" in weight (kb) one can have a big image in height and length without it being heavy, what is important in this that you reduce the pixels per inch (resolution) to 72 and nothing more than that there are always free software alternatives, one can search for that in sites like: download.com maybe it is also possible to change the size (not the weight but how the image is displayed) with HTML (the "language" with which commonly websites are made) but probably that would a little more complicated i hope this helps take care | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 312 Registered: 01-2004 |
thanks memo00, i'll try to reduce the "weight", i dont want to shrink the image or it will obscure things. here's the picture, i just clipped out the horizon, with the object to the right, and to the left i left some tree leaves that were about a couple feet or so away from me as i took the picture  | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 230 Registered: 10-2005 |
Great photo Peter, very clear! At the Semjase Silver Star Center saw one with two other folks on 5/18/07 at 9:45 PM observed a bright UFO at the SSSC parking lot campfire (where Ptaah sat once to play chess with Billy). It was a very bright yet very visible light that sort of spun... then moved swiftly away off into deeper space as it got smaller and smaller.It was not a satellite because it moved into deeper space and got smaller as it left as opposed to a satelite that moved steadily across the night sky lit by the sun. The moon was just a sliver that night and the sky was clear... myself, Wolfgang and his wife also saw this. We were just saying goodnight after a hard work day at the Silver Star Center campfire... and did not expect to see this or the other two we saw that night. Wolfgang said that he sees them often and it may be the Plejaren attempting to show us they are here. Then again, he said it could be just CIA Nazis spying on Billy as well. We saw two more, one could have been a satellite and the other was a bright flash for only an instant. Many, Wolfgang said, that he saw, were traveling from south to north. He mentioned that in his home he has seen as many as eleven in a single night. Riccard said the flash may have been a telemeter as they build up a charge and dissipate energy in this way every so often... It could also have been a car light as there is a roadway above the center although there was no audible sound at the time. Told everyone in the kitchen the next day. Guido, Freddy, Daniela, and a few others. Mentioned it later to Micheal Horn and he said "Why don't you ask Billy about it"... so I left a note with Bernadette and Daniela to give to Billy. Will find out if it was friends of Billy later on. This was not my first siteing of UFO's since there are many things in the sky that are unknown to me. But it certainly was a nice and unexpected surprise. Guido gave me a knowing smile when he found out, I hope he is out of the hospital now. After the passive member meeting outside the SSSC Anton from Austria said he was compelled to take a picture one day, in his garden and by mistake... (?) captured a nice clear picture of a Plejaren craft as he and his brother confirmed this with Billy. So it is nice indeed... when you can capture a glimpse of technology that may someday be ours from the not-so-distant future. | ||
The_original_dave New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2007 |
Wow you guys have some amazing stories and now i want to share mine, i actually have seen ufo's on two diffrent occasions but i'm gonna tell you of the more recent one right now. Well a few friends of mine and i are on vacation in spain in the canary islands and were in the island called tenerife. anyways so about a week ago we were walking back to the hotel and all of a sudden i just looked up to the sky and noticed a strange looking star which was like an emty sphere shape with a bunch of big bright dots in it, and would vary in brightness and everytime it would town down in brightness some dots would dissapear, and when it lit back up there would be even more dots and it continued the pattern over and over again like if they were trying to say something. and this continued for about 3 days and then for the next two days it stayed completely still and looked like a normal star, and now just 2 days a the skies have gotten cloudy so i haven't been able to see it, but just last night when passing by the same street where i had seen it before i suddenly looked up and there it was with it's original form /which was the sphericle shape with the bright dots that dissapeared and reppeared/ moving in the sky rather quick and i was able to get a good look of it for about ten seconds before it suddenly dissapeared in the clouds. and so today i'm going out with a camera to see if i see it again and tape it. also yes i did take a picture of it the second time i saw it but the object was too bright and you only see a big blob of light in the picture. anyways i did some research on ufo sightings in the islands, and i learned that there have been hundreds of sightings here in the island especially with sightings of ufo's coming out of the sea. ok so that's it, i'll try to get a good picure or video of it if i see it again before i leave. if i do i'll post it on this forum. | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2007 |
Hey Rarena when you get a reply from Billy let us know. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 271 Registered: 08-2004 |
Who knows? Perhaps they're researching when the La Palma mega-tsunami will occur or precisely how big it and the results will be? In one of my dreams of the La Palma mega-tsunami I think I was on Tenerife, which by all accounts is affected greatly by this geologically scheduled event. Last UFO I saw was on top of a mountain here near Osaka in 1996 (or '95). It was a rapidly pulsating golden light in the clear dark blue evening sky. It only lasted seconds, but three of the four people present saw it. | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 278 Registered: 04-2006 |
In the 70's and 80's there was a lot of UFO activities in the canary islands but in this 21st century sightings are becoming more scarce. I'm really interested in so called intra-terrestrials, some of them habitating ocean cities.Descendants of old atlantis? These canary islands are halfway to the original location of atlantis..... Once i read a story about an intercepted WWII pilot serving in the pacific who was invited to visit one of these undersea cities, but i can't remember the name of the contactee.I'd like to re-read it again. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 794 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... I thought to share with you all these images of an airplane that had been doing some rounds in my neighborhood. Time: just past 12.00 noon. It had been circling for about a half hour, or so? Which seems to be the case, many times; just as another planes have done, previous to this one. It surely is not a traffic plane, or hobbyists(as far as I know); because they are not aloud to fly that low and in inhabited areas...since a short time ago, because people have been complaining of airplanes and helicopters flying low in our city air, and neighborhood. A helicopter even once flew very low at about 4.00 am, in the neighborhood I live in, and of course people complained about this. What it was doing that morning, is still not very clear. It was taken with - Three shots drive -, and I stopped shooting because I thought it(plane) was going away, anyway. If I had seen the UFO/Object, Clearly, when shooting: I would have not stopped, but kept on shooting using the drive. Then, I would have more images of the plane, as well as the UFO/Object. But: alas. 'What I got....is what I got'... What I would like to add is: that I only concentrated on the plane, and after these shots...it went away. I noticed the UFO/Object only later when I uploaded them to my PC. And took a better look at them. What ever it is: I will let you decide for your selves, OK. As you can notice: the object is Reddish in color. In image ONE, you can see the plane do its last approach, as I noticed. You see only the plane. In image TWO, you can see the plane, but this time with an UFO/Object at the left. In image THREE, you can see the plane once again with the UFO/Object much closer, now. In images FOUR, FIVE, SIX and SEVEN...are the blow ups, of image THREE. Image ONE  Image TWO  Image THREE  Images: FOUR,  FIVE,  SIX  and SEVEN.  Enjoy..... Edward. | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2007 |
That is a red balloon.  I have sees tiny bright spots on the sky that appear to be ufo, and when I take my binoculars the surprise is that is a globe of silver color. Those balloons inflated with helium and made of "mylar", a material made of very thin sheets of nylon and aluminum are specially confused for UFOs | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 259 Registered: 07-2004 |
I created an original sound file of what sounds very similar to the Beamship recording Billy did. With a cellphone and a cordless land line held together, a feedback loop begins to oscillate any sound captured by one phone calling the other in a live feed. While it's lacking the complexity of the real recording, it offers some insight into what maybe happening to cause the ships flight ability. This was a very basic attempt. With actual planning and a better set up, a closer resembling recording can be made. What does this tell us? Not sure, but it makes me think more on subjects such as future propulsion systems and how they may come about. It seems there must be some electro-magnetic force being created by this simple effect which may be part of what the Beamships use for propulsion. http://www.4shared.com/dir/2939570/dfaf0b14/sharing.html a friend in america Shawn | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 794 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Icredible.... Nice try... As you can see, the airplane is flying to the south; it made a round, coming from the west. And thus, the UFO/Object, came from my left, which is the east. And that day, as mostly the case (everyday): the winds come in from the west, or south, or south/west(rarely, from the east). Which is, when coming from the west - coming from my right side, and in the case of the plane in the images, also from the right side. So, it was certainly NOT....a Balloon! I have never seen, or know of, that a Balloon can go 'against' the wind! Even now, today: I have west winds! And the images were from Friday afternoon. As long as we do not know what it really is, it will just be classified as an 'UFO', and thus not...an IFO... Still, thank you for your analyses and input. Edward. | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 06-2007 |
Yes, a ballon can't go against the wind..But: You must take in account that in the atmosphere exist different layers with different temperatures. The winds in the upper layers can go in opposite direction to the lower layer. This can give an optical illusion of an object moving against the wind (of lower layers).  |
