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James
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the Toxoplasmosis infection may also be found in undercooked meat.

Infected animals can use your garden as a toilet so wash up afterwards. This is a reason why the Plejaren say not to tolerate animals even near your home!
Welcome to Earth!
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Vestri
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi dyson, i don't quite understand how a parasite can make females or a human more attractive looking?
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Certain "Sixties ideas" have come full circle from conspiacies to hide the truth of the true nature of nature.

Correction: in my previous post (back two) I said the chickens who ate the decalcified oats laid eggs with no shells, actually... they laid eggs WITH shells. Only when there was NO calcium and NO potassium present that they laid eggs with NO shells. The calcium did not come from the bones as the control group and other twenty chickens' bones all weighed aproximately the same.

Implying cold fusion from CA to K (one proton different) via creating one proton more and in a way making sense of Dr. Crandells theory in the book "They all told the truth, The Antigravity Papers..." findings about the true nature of the atom...

It's a "three quarks in a proton" type of thing.

In other words the spinning particles within the neutrons...within the quarks: "vacuons"... impart proton or neutron depending on their orbital rotational/directional vector, not a "type" of particle... but a vector behavior of the particle.

One thing that is more obvious, now with the advent of the Plejaren... is life is infinite, it is working at the sub atomic level and is also working at the infinitly larger than the Universes level we live in...

Life is not only on the Earth plane.

Much love to you...
Randy ô¿ô
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MMMMMmmm here is an article contrary...


http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/toxoplamosis_linked_to.html

Partially reprinted here:


Toxoplamosis Linked to Schizophrenia? Don't Blame the Cat!


November 2, 2005


WASHINGTON — The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) knows that cat owners who have suppressed immune systems or become pregnant may give up their feline family members out of fear of contracting toxoplasmosis, a disease that can lead to serious birth defects in newborn babies. Now there is mounting evidence linking toxoplasmosis with schizophrenia. The good news is that toxoplasmosis is easy to avoid, given the right information.

Dr. Milton H. McAllister, professor of pathobiology in the College of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, recently announced the strong likelihood of a link between toxoplasmosis and schizophrenia. The HSUS supports Dr. McAllister's recommendations that more research is needed to clarify this association. Dr. McAllister's review, which appears in the September 30 issue of the Journal of Veterinary Parasitology, also recommends that pet cats be kept indoors, for people to cook meat sufficiently, and that veterinary and public health professionals reconsider the way they think and teach about toxoplasmosis.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vestri,

Lots of diseases-causing organisms change their host’s behavior in order to spread themselves, like how the cold/flu virus settles in the nasal passages, and then makes us sneeze, which gets the little devils airborne, to be inhaled by others, etc.

So if a disease, which can includes macro-organisms as well as micro-organisms, makes men more stupid, that would be all that was needed to make women more attractive - as opposed to objectively "more attractive LOOKING".

Sorry. I’m being a little facetious there. Of course I don’t know the mechanism that this creature employs to alter a woman’s behavior either, but I do know that some parasites of snails cause them to try to get eaten, in the same way that the infected mice do.

Why not higher organisms too?

Like most little kids in the decadent West, I started life playing among cat dung. After all these years, it would be interesting to see if my IQ could go up, so I’m thinking about getting a blood test, because I need all the brains I can get these days!

Cheers!
Dyson

P.S. Wikipedia DOES have a lot of errors. They’ve got us still in court with the OTO and we’re not, owing them $50,000, and we don’t. And Billy is described as a thief.
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Memo00
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Vestri

i think its not the physical appearance what changes (principally), but the behavior, one person can become more or less attractive by the attitude he/she has, for example most females like men that have confidence in themselves and reject those who are insecure even if they look better

in this case it is said women with the parasite tend to be more outgoing, friendly and more promiscuous, so men prefer them (´cause as you may know not all but a huge proportion of the male population are only after sex)

in the info it wasn´t specified if the men recognized these women as more attractive only by looking at them (or a photo), or by talking with them etc, but i think its possible that the difference can be "visible" in the face

many things are "written" in our faces and the proportions of our bodies which are "read" (and smelled) unconsciously which makes some persons more attractive to other particular persons (i can mention pair of examples if you are interested)

take care
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I have wondered about whether there is really such a thing as the “flu season”? In the US during the later fall and early winter months the media puts forth all sorts of advertising to stop those sneezing, coughing spells that are inevitable with the change of seasons. How is it that this time of year all of sudden we all become susceptible to these “viruses” no matter what type of weather conditions may be prevailing?

This may be going out on a limb but I have thought some of these weird “viruses” may be man made and then some how spread through the population possibly by some type of airborne application or other means which eventually finds its way into the major population centers. In earlier times, when a person "got" the “flu” his or her body temperature would rise to fight off the invading virus and it was usually over within a relatively short duration of time. Nowadays, these “colds” and “flu's” at times seem to linger and last for considerably longer. Also, through my own observations I have noticed that peoples overall core temperatures have dropped. In my own case I have noticed my own temperature has dropped from approx. 98.6 to 97.3. If this is indeed the case, then this would account for the “illnesses” lasting longer. Perhaps this drop in core temperature, if that is indeed true, would then cause a person to be ill longer and consume more “flu” or “cold” products?

For instance if the Pharmaceutical companies are somehow producing “viruses” and infecting the mass populace with them, then people in turn purchase their products for relief. What a brilliant money producing machine the human being has become. How is it that they know which products to put on display in the stores in advance of people even becoming sick?

Is it the Asian flu as we have been led to believe? It seems to me control of poultry and other foul that supposedly carry these viruses is controlled and very few of these real viruses make it across the borders.

In addition this makes me wonder about the true efficacy of flu shots and whether they are what we have been told, again how is it known which “viruses” are prevalent during any given “flu” season?

What is the Center for Disease Control really about? Perhaps they are really in the business of Controlling Diseases which will be introduced to human beings, not those that need to be prevented!

Any Comments

Scott
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 362
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Scott

Yeah Scott, given all the information out there, it's highly likely that your assumptions are more than likely.

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Cheers
Matt
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Kingman
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Read this article and you can get a feel how the Pharmaceutical Companies can misrepresent CDC figures in calculating actual deaths attributed solely to the flu. With these inflated numbers they begin pushing a campaign for wide ranging flu vaccinations.


More of the fear tactics for profit... http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/331/7529/1412
a friend in america
Shawn
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Memo00
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Scott

i think its not impossible, but i also think it isn´t really necessary for the companies to spread viruses, people now are plain and simply weaker due to several factors among which we can find:

stress, pollution, deficiencies in essential nutrients, abnormal climatic changes, electromagnetic contamination (which produces allergies, weakens the immune system, etc), sedentary lifestyle, artificial colorants, flavors, etc, pesticides and hormones in food, and a long etc.

flu remedies are ineffective ´cause they only address the symptoms but they don´t go to the root, usually the body heals itself, but if its weak then the disease remains longer

although modern medicine has found dozens of antibiotics, it only has very few antiviral drugs, probably in one or two herbs there are more antiviral compounds than in an entire drugstore!

take care (and if you are interested in a remedy, just ask for it )
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

{Matt}, We already know from Billy that AIDS came from a monkey. So there's already a hole in Dr. Horowitz's book.
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Melli
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott in reference to your post #1021, (please place it elsewhere if you think it is in the wrong thread:
You are right with your thoughts about how the pharma. produces medicine before people actually get sick. Again from my own years of experiencing various illnesses I have come to understand how all malicious machinations and their outcomes are delibrately manufactured namely my pet issue (again) of dairy consumption. Logically thinking:
we are 2 different species, but humans are the only species in nature who knowingly and idiotically choose to cross the species barrier hence most of our acquired diseases.
Also the truth is inconvenient and must stay so for as long as we choose to 'follow' for how else will the global economy sustain us?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon him not understanding it". Upton Sinclair
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Norm

Norm do you have further information regarding the 2005 prediction that AIDs cure will be found?

I can't locate where I saw it but some doctor in a developing country found a cure and cured many people. Forgot where I saw it.


Cheers
Matt
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it was Contact 251. If not I think it was one of the booklets.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Highly advanced extraterrestrials (originally known as our “guardian angels”) are evidently WRONG about the need for us to take vitamin supplements to compensate for Earth’s nutrient-poor, bred-out food! The Journal of the American Medical Association would NEVER lie to US! And I’m SURE this study would NOT have been funded by the multinational petrochemical/pharmaceutical corporations, because they want us to be in poor health so we buy expensive drugs! (comic irony)

Sydney Morning Herald
Vitamins raise death risk: study
February 28, 2007
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/02/27/1172338624454.html


POPULAR vitamin supplements designed to prevent disease may increase the risk of death, an international study has found.

Vitamin A performed worst in the 68-trial review, with the supplement said to lift mortality risk by 16 per cent. A closely related nutrient, beta carotene, had a 7 per cent rise.

Vitamin E supplements were associated with a 4 per cent increased risk, according to The Journal of the American Medical Association.

The Danish researchers found the top-seller, vitamin C, had no effect, positive or negative, on survival. The researchers also cleared the trace mineral selenium of increased risks.

They concluded "the public health consequences may be substantial", given that 10 to 20 per cent of Western adults swallow supplements regularly in the belief they are preventing disease.

The review examined the effects of beta carotene, vitamins A, E and C and selenium on the death of more than 230,000 adults involved in trials.

Professor Luis Vitetta, of Australia's Centre for Complementary Medicine and Research, said the results were very concerning and added strength to evidence that vitamins could do more harm than good.

"There's a billion-dollar vitamin industry based on this idea that people can prevent disease when they're actually just putting themselves at extra risk," he said.

Professor Vitetta said smaller studies had shown that those who "mega-dosed" on vitamins had the most heightened risk.

AAP
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dyson how will anyone know of its veracity.
Both pro and con studies done may contain some level of bias.
I've been taking vitamins for a while now when before I had great aversions of it simply based on negative opinions of them.
The body seem to be less tired and recovers a little quicker from strenuous activities.

What I don't recommend is cough and flu medication
It weakens the body and the immune system is ripped to shreds (not literally).

cheers
Matt
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Melli
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We should be asking Why is it that the pharma. corporations still allow vitamins to be manufactured and sold without prescription? I think this gives them credence to publish material contrary to alternative research findings because they are a scientific body and people have a tendency to follow so called 'science' and which actually helps them stir the confusion even more and then compounded by TV brainwashing and talk shows spins they achieve that that they have prescribed for us eons ago namely total confusion = stupidity = thus self destruction = big profits.
I believe that it is not so much the issue of vitamins alone that can supposadly harm us because when we come to think of What we are, what is this body mass composed of that our Spirit chose to live in, we realize that not only are we coarse matter but this matter is composed of Amino Acids being the prime life giving constituents; so it's not just the proteins that make up the cells or the atoms within those cells, it's the energy of life that is scientifically based and is supporting that life in order for it to exist anywhere in the universe. In the year 1969 north of Melbourne Australia, a carbonaceous chondrite a certain kind of meteorite was hurling to earth and was fragmenting during descend. Some fragments were collected and analyzed by scientists who found that this meteorite contained eight of the identical Amino Acids used by life on earth. And another interesting find was discovered - these extraterrestrial amino acids favour "left handed" molecular structure that is favoured by life on earth, and this 'left handed' preference is a precondition for life: but today's science has not yet discovered the reason Why all of life's proteins are made up of "left handed" amino acids.
Amino Acids make up the proteins of our bodies that form our skin, hair, organs, hormones etc. and act as a chemical messenger for the whole body to function.
There 28 A-A in nature, the liver manufacturers 19 of them while the other 9 must be obtained from the food we eat. A-A make up the proteins that we need to sustain our life without them the body weakens and becomes easily prone to viruses and degenerative diseases. This is Why I believe that we as humans should NOT cross the species barrier and when we do, we acquire a host of countless new diseases.
I think it proves the point (in my eyes and in my experience) that earth is not the only planet that sustains life on a scientific basis supported by vital and naturally organic Amino Acids, the universe out there is teeming with this life giving force and clearly we are not alone.
The truth is that A-A are far more important to human health than vitamins, and this is the reason WHY they are never mentioned or thaught at various alternative health institutions: even the Homeopath I visit sometimes (and ask her what she should prescribe for me) was not totally aware of the vital importance of A-A but I am sure she is now.
As the political agendas of wars and diseases continue to spin, most people will continue taking vitamins ignorant of the fact that A-A are far far more important to their whole health outcome. And that's just another way the pharma. mafia will continue to profit.
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Kingman
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vitamin sham is just another example of overly greedy corporate thugs sticking it to the gullible populace. I had a friend who was taking calcium supplements believing it was a healthier lifestyle and ended up getting kidney stones. To make things worse, the hospital he went to for treatment wanted to cut him open to remove the painful stones. Fortunately he was not able to afford the operation and found a cheaper method that dissolved the stones without the help of the medical establishment.

Some doctors and their methods are as complicit in greedy scams as the people who direct the corporate practices.

Good, honest doctors are worth maintaining a life long relationship with as we get older. During a health need a second opinion from a less scrupulous practitioner can sometimes be extremely different than what the first examiner proclaims, and they may not always come to conclude to what your best available options are. My uncle was diagnosed with prostate cancer at the age of 70 from his family doctor. The doctor advised him to leave the problem alone keeping a regular watch on it, and a second doctor convinced him to have an immediate operation. His practitioner gave him 10 more years if the cancer was left untreated. The other, second doctor told him he could possibly live another 20 years. The second doctor got my uncles business and a down payment for his new yacht, and my uncle died on the operating table.

A promise of a longer life given by these people, is an easy fear based method for increasing the profitability used in the corporate office, as well as the doctor's office.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Melli and shaun

If I didn't read between the lines I woulda thought that you guys were vehemently opposed to all products the pharma produces.
I gather that we have to be very selective about what we put in our mouths but more importantly learn to know how to discern the benefits of one product from the next without being easily swayed by propagandistic spin.

So essentially, Melli are you against people any form of supplements, especially vitamins?
I didn't realise that an Amino Acid isolate in supplement form was available over the counter?


Shawn, what do you think is the best alternative substitute for vitamins other than a good balanced diet?
Sorry for the tragic loss, I would be immensely p**s** off and would bring the house down if that happened in my watch.
Doctors can get away with anything these days, this so called public liability insurance practically absolves them of any responsibilities where often some take either unnecessary risks or do far too little and not diagnose the real problems properly.
But there are obviously good doctors out there who are genuinely caring and really passionate about their craft.


cheers
Matt
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Hector
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I recently watched a documentary where it was said that too much, an excess of vitamin A caused the bones to break (osteoporosis).

http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1031002307.html

I mean, i know vitamin supplements are good because today's food lacks essential substances due to industrial manufacturing of food, but everyone should know the dose of extra vitamins he needs, not just take three pills a day because "it will do him good ".

Take control of your life, do not let your lifestyle control you.

Regards
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Kingman
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What most people/families fail to do is research one of the most important aspects of their life. Your family health practitioner must be someone that not only cares about your complete being, but cares enough to be the most up to date in current knowledge, questions the findings of science that effect his patients, and is not afraid to say," I don't know". The oath taken by a doctor should be the most important statement they will proclaim for the career they have chosen.

Matt,

I'm not able to give you a specific alternative, being that we're all effected by different conditions. A simple plan of exercise that helps your endurance and cardiovascular system, and a diet that is within the ability of your body to operate without unnecessary stress is a good place to start. Food without pesticides. Enough leafy greens, fruit, grains etc. if your body is agreeable to such. We are responsible for every choice that goes into feeding our vessel. When your ready to eat that second donut, ask yourself if another one is really what you need. One is a treat, two is something different altogether.

We've read of Billy being fed Plejaren food and describing it as something quite strange to us, but I would think they have put enough logic into nutritional needs to get it right. Nutrition in a completely healthy aspect is created individually. A supplement would be something you are unable to acquire yet need as a complete balance. There couldn't possibly be a perfect multi-vitamin to reach that balance for everyone.

I remember reading Billy saying it was important to eat what you like in moderation. I am of the opinion that what we strongly accept as 'good food' will be good food. Our amazing chemical producing plants we possess can do wonders with very little.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day hector

Hector I have querie, how do you gauge accurately the right amount of dosage required from not being able to ascertain exactly the deficiency level of vitamins in the body.

Where can you get a comprehensive test done
I know of no facilities here where I live.
Blood tests only tell half the story.

I mean we are talking about

betacarotene
retinyl acetate
cholecalciferol
dl-alpha-tacopheryl
acetate
thiamine nitrate
riboflavin
nicotinamide
calcium pantothenate
pyridoxine hydrochloride
folic acid
cyanocobalamin
ascorbic acid
biotin
phytomenadione
iron
calcium
magnesium
zinc
iodine
potassium
copper
chromium
manganese
phophorus
molybedenum
chloride
selenium

The dosage per tablet is already prescribed with a certain level of ingredients.
Most come in liquid capsule form that cannot be broken up like a tablet if one chooses to take half.

Do you know of a crude test that can be done at home, a kit with certain instruments for testing if at all it exists.

cheers
Matt
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Shawn

Yeah those are good suggestions Shawn but I was seeking something on a supplement level, the specific brand and the reasons why it's better than all the other glut of shelves after shelves of different manufacturer vitamins that are essentially identical from all the other brands.

What do you guys think about the alternative herbal chinese medicine?


cheers
Matt

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