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Melli
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Post Number: 239
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:09 am: | 
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Dear Matt,
Being a Spirit in a Feminine body naturally we are quite different in body and mind! Many years ago I decided that if I want to change my thinking abilities I have to change what I feed my body as a prerequisite for a life changing journey. Because I was so eager to change my life around I did a comprehensive research as much as one can do from a home computer by reading endless research data from various medical institutions, health organizations and of course my trusted 'Not Milk' website and others too many to mention here. Ever since then I followed a logical approach to sustaing a good level of physical and mental health and thus my body became my private Laboratory. I must say that I have learned quite alot and yet there is still more to learn. When I didn't feel any major changes occurring in my body I decided to do different tests to see what is in my body and what I can do to get rid of the residues left from pollution and pesticide consumption. First was a "hair test" which can be done with your family practitioner or a Homeopath. There are 2 labs in Melb. that do these tests and cost less than half than the ones doctors are eagerly sending to the US for testing. I still prefer Australian science and trust it more, and besides as we know alot of scientific discoveries are made here then taken to america to make the big money for them first while the scientists here receive peanuts in return. Anyway one lab is called ARL Pathology the other is Health Sciences. But you need a special form that outlines the various tests one can do, for example: hair, Amino Acid profile, Toxic Metals, Food sensitivites, Chelation, Hormone Profile and many more.
There is an interesting website that deals with alternative medicine from which I use to purchase certain items it's called Life Extension Foundation, www.lef.org have a read of it and you be the judge. I have alot of their printed material as I was once a subscriber.
I can't describe here all that I have done to change but I can say that I am a new person. I became my own doctor and student in the process.
Hope this helps, |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 745
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:23 am: |
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Hi Matt....
If I may pitch in a few coins....
As in all branches of Herbal or Alterative medicines, there are the: Pros and
the Cons.
Just like in all Religions, or others: there is SOME Truths in them! But, we
must try to eliminate the Cons. And try and lead ourselves back to the
Pros: the Truths, and ALL that which is in Truth...Natural related.
I have notice African, Asian and even our Western European Alterative
Medicinemen/doctors...whom are Knowledgeable as well as those whom are Un-
Knowledgeable, with their practices. Thus, we should, again, 'distinct' the
Pros from the Cons.
Well, I think that there are indeed 'Pros' to/in Chinese herbal medicines,
though. Just as in others. But we have to be very very careful, because of the
'folklore' that may be imbedded in some of the healing remedies. Which has no
Truth at all, in healing or inhibition of an illness, or what ever.
But, my motto was always: "Conventional medicine go(ing) hand in hand with the Alternatives!"
We must not forget, that our conventional medications have their ROOTS from
what we now call Alternative medications!
And in most cases, the conventional medications can be more easily
'altered/manipulated' to 'perfecting' the medication in involved. And this
seems to be more..the path of (our) the future.
But of course, Alternative medications will never be lost, so to speak, because
that IS THE 'UR' ROOTS...of modern medicine.
Edward. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 441
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:07 pm: |
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Dear Melli and Edward
Thanks for sharing that Melli
I gather that in a perfect world we wouldn't have to worry about toxicity level of our foods, multitude of poison (preservatives, colours and additives) used or even to concern ourselves with inadequate nutritional content of our foods, especially natural produce because of the vile profit greedy mongrels in their posh offices decides that they'd just leave human decency and due diligence out of the equation because it's bad for profit.
Somedays I do feel pretty @#$#%^% (you know what I mean) when going to some markets I see seafood sellers leave reeking fish with eyes that look like they've missed the Fred Hollows tender caring cataract procedures, I mean it was that faded and YET they still sold it.
Buyers definitely must beware more so now days than ever before from unscrupulous business operators that put absolute emphasis on profit and are willing to take risks with peoples lives.
This reminds me of incident here in Melbourne involving a restauranteur who was jailed for I think 5-6 years because his restaurant served salmonella infested food that eventually killed 1 person and made many others sick.
It's a mad world sometimes
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Edward, that was a very informative post I agree with.
These days, the onus is really back on people to dodge the stray bullets let loose from shady dealers which is often the norm rather than the exception.
There are good practitioners I believe but they are few and far in between.
Chinese herbal medicine sometime takes a battering because so much pesticides and herbicides are used to cultivate these plants that it makes a mute point having good chinese herbalists.
Not to mention the fact that it's unavoidable not to breath and consume pollutant free air and food product anywhere around this world.
No wonder the cancer rates have skyrocketed.
some figures show 1 in 3 to 1 in 2 will die of this disease.
How sad and to top it off other dangers lurks.
Of course you can't remain paranoid and not live your life but just a brief thoughts on the matter is unsettling.
But then again, if it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
Anyway it'll be nice to take profit and greed out of the equation in this society and in it's place genuine concern and pursuit of excellence for the sake of human progress, how much better the world would be.
I better stop dreaming now and get back to reality :-)
cheers
Matt |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 211
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:07 am: |
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I had begun a post for you Matt but somehow I managed to lock up my Mac during a inspiring attempt at music and lost a response for you. Fortunately, figu has plenty of members who offer what they can to help someone in a need of information.
I described how many supplements of the inexpensive type(or expensively clothed in advertising eye catch) are purified out of industrial waste(sludge). When a spectrograph of the isolated element is held next to an actual graph of a real nutrient and there's enough of a similarity between the two, it gets label as that nutrient. Profits can be extreme from a product that comes from another industries waste problems. A close example is the purified sugar substitute, Aspertame( courtesy Donald Rumsfield and Ronald Reagan) which is derived from the sludge of papermills.
We now know that so many afflictions are related to the ingestion of Aspertame, society is now starting to fight back. Except Bush and his cohorts stopped the rights of victims from suing these disgusting examples of human greedmasters.
any ways...I'll post some other useful info when I have more time to do so...
a friend in america
Shawn
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 451
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 09:36 pm: |
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Shame on them to the extreme
I was aware that donny rummy gave the green light and now over 3000 food products contain aspartame, yuck! how awful;-(
I never touch coke and pepsi anymore, not the diet version, not the original version, not the zero max or it's other products.
Anyway looking forward to what you have in store shawn.
cheers
Matt |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 243
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:40 pm: |
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Matt, would like to know more about pepsi/coke?
if so read on: in India the poor farmers had no money left after agreeing to plant GE crops which needed endless applications of herbicides then pesticides and after about 3 years as is the case with most GE crops these developed resistance to invading pests and so in desperation they applied coke/pepsi to kill the invading pests, and guess what? these worked better than the newest pesticides.
Another truth? Diet drinks are not really diet, and people get fatter instead of losing weight and fat, Why? because aspartame, nutra sweet and equal increase the cravings for carbohydrates (usually the greasy type) by suppressing the production of Serotonin. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 462
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:01 pm: |
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Wow Melli things they do
I've heard of people putting silver coins in a glass full of coke which dissolved over night.
Speaking of which, I might experiment a little by applying coke to motor oil spills over the concrete driveway and see how this turns out.
Yes I have to agree with you there Melli, soft drinks should be forbidden on any of the kids diet or for that matter, anyone's diet.
I see very fat people munching on fish and chips with lift or solo in one hand gulping it down as they chew and churn the fatty food in their mouths.
It's a poignant symbolic reminder needing very few words to even reason with oneself of the destructive effect on the health of these poisons people misguidedly call harmless thirst quenching appetisers.
Gees Melli, maybe you've stumbled upon a gold mine here with what you wrote in your post.
I can imagine someone armed with manila folder full of data, heading to the coke/pepsi headquarters suggesting alternate use of coke/pepsi in the agricultural sector as a replacement to harmful pesticides and herbicides.
The CEOs and executives would love it ;-)
Just imagine the coke tainted taste of the next weetbixs or uncle tobys choc chip muesli bar
or better still
How about pepsi flavoured broccolis, potatoes, pumpkins or colli flower.
Jokes aside every time I consume chinese food which is once in a blue moon my shoulders tighten up so stiff and my mouth thirsting for liquid it's not funny.
The MSG ladened beef in blackbean sauce, chinese broccoli in oyster sauce, some dim sims from yamcha all taste good while you are seated but the after effects takes days to wane off.
I don't have anything against any ethnic culinary dishes but the invasion of MSG is epic in proportion.
Even a simple packet of safe looking sakata rice snacks or nibbling on flavoured nobby's nuts guarantees a years worth of MSG fighting for parking space in your haemoglobin.
I highly recommend consuming as less of this MSG as possible.
cheers
matt |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 552
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 05:42 am: |
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Hi all,
Just a thought ...
What is often overlooked is different individuals’ different constitutions and tolerances/intolerances to different ingestibles, be they foods, chemicals, drugs, etc.
I can eat vast quantities of MSG and all is does is make my food taste stronger. At one stage, I used to add more of it to my (VERY tasty!) home cooking than any Chinese greasy-spoon restaurant cook, and never felt anything but satiated.
However, a young (20s) acquaintance of mine ate some MSG in a Chinese restaurant here in Grafton some years ago and started to experience an asthma attack.
She said, “I’m dying.”
And then she did.
Until quite recently pharmaceutical companies didn’t even bother to test anything but gender-specific drugs on women!
And what about the size difference between individuals? I’m 6’3”. Vivienne is 5’3”, but we’d be prescribed the same drug dosage from most doctors.
And inherited proclivities to – for instance – alcohol addiction? One person can take it or leave it, and another person becomes a hopeless gibbering alcoholic after one drink.
So different ingested substances can have very different effects on different individuals and it is not logical to lose sight of that often-ignored fact when giving the thumbs up or thumbs down to specific things.
Cheers!
Dyson |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 465
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 07:14 pm: |
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Dear Dyson
I think we can all agree that at a molecular level, chemicals don't discriminate whatever the bodily constitution or visible reaction.
MSG is big business produced by hugh business cartels.
It's in practically every food consumed.
A poison to one body is poison to all in this instance
As we cannot gauge exactly what the safe level of consumption is due to different bodily constitution, same was said about cigarette smoke but to people's dismay every cigarette is doing damage.
I agree with the principle Dyson but regarding MSG the facts speaks for itself.
http://www.sellingsalesmanship.com/msginfo.html
cheers
Matt |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 246
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 11:49 pm: |
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Let me add a little something: Yes women and men have very different digestive systems for example my own and my hubby's, he can eat all he likes and still is as skinny as ever whereas me if I only look at a cake or sweets I put on weight and with some tests I discovered that I have a high intolereance to certain things, while he doesn't. Back to the MSG issue: I once heard a Chineese doctor describe his experience with MSG. He said that when he travelled to the US his favourite chineese food made him very sick for days, whereas at home although the food contains MSG, he has no trouble at all. He explained that difference as a simple fact in the manufacturing process: in China their MSG is produced from vegetable or other natural sources whereas in the west it is produced artificially but he didn't divulge the source of the culprit. I wondered what sludge it comes from?
MSG comes in many disguises and one lable favoured by the manufacturing industries is called "hydrolyzed protein".
MSG is added to stimulate our appetite so that we will consume ever more food, thus increase production on all levels and finally produce enough waste for us to swim in and consequently all this create a chain reaction hence a productive business management. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 643
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 12:54 pm: |
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Dear Bianca, (Melli)
I don’t agree with Tom’s theories about how AIDS came about, but I think his cure is legit. We have some info about the electromagnetic cure for all known cellular diseases (which Big Oil/Big Pharma so ruthlessly suppresses) inked off of our (2nd) opening page. www.gaiaguys.net/goodnews04.htm and my formal submission, in three parts, to the National Health and Medical Research Council Review Committee on Microwave Cancer Therapy can be found at www.gaiaguys.net/NHMRD.htm
It would be a big ask for me to reduce these many very technical details into person-on-the-street levels. The technology is mind-numbingly abstruse for laypeople, I’m sorry to say – even for many physicists, who have suffered from (religiously influenced) false scientific teachings - but it has to do with the localized manipulation of time at a cellular level. Seems quite sci-fi but the technology’s effectiveness was scientifically proven to be quite sound in the 1970s in France and the theory behind it was only back-engineered several years later by Bearden.
I want to get his DVDs about free energy, etc. but we have a lot of trouble with getting mail here from overseas, except from FIGU, for some mysterious reason. By all means get the DVD, Bianca, because it will be interesting for you even of a lot of it still goes over your head.
BTW, I think at one stage recently you remarked here that I had said something like ignorance was freely chosen stupidity? Actually I remarked that Billy had said that ignorance is freely chosen misery.
Cheers!
Dyson |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 254
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 12:57 am: |
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Thanks Dyson,
In regard to your last paragraph, I think I said Billy said what he said not YOU, if I did, it was an unintentional blooper, I apologize. And Yes my wording was incorrect. OoooPs!
I will order the DVD for myself and if you like email me and let me know which DVDs you would like and when I get them I will forward them to you. Thank you, bianca |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 255
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 01:31 am: |
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Dyson, Me again,
I printed all the amazing info about the "Priore Machine" from your link to T. Bearden site.
I was considering the possibility of forwarding this link to the scientist who writes the explosive website Not Milk, but then it might meddle with his convictions, or should I?
This site www.gaiaguys.net/NHMRD.htm is UN-available and I tried a few search engines... HHmmmm ??? can you do something about it? |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 654
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 01:36 pm: |
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D'oh!
Try www.gaiaguys.net/NHMRC.htm
I'll get back to you. Gotta run!
Cheers!
Dyson |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 656
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 08:04 pm: |
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Dear Bianca,
Of course you can inform try to your “scientist” about reality if you want to, but it has been my bitter experience that you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. This is particularly so with these ignorant arrogant elite who (erroneously) like to call themselves “scientists”, and that’s also the reason that Billy and the Plejaren list them right up there with religious and political leaders as the worst of the worst. Here’s a little item from a REAL scientist, which illustrates my point about just one narrow aspect of their dogma. www.gaiaguys.net/illusions.htm
We naively tried to alert our 222 Federal Australian lawmakers about these facts some years ago. We were fools. www.gaiaguys.net/DisclosureprojectAustrepli.htm
Now we know that the Earth human does not WANT to know the truth. (WE wish we’d known THEN!) You’d be better off, Bianca, taking the time it would take you and the money it would cost you in postage, to buy some chocolate and spend time relaxing and eating it, instead of contacting "health" professionals. But don’t take my word for it. See for yourself.
Did you notice the prominent “~” going through the Earth on the Australian Labor Party’s “Climate Change Summit” logo? (www.gaiaguys.net.symbols.htm) It is not JUST ignorance. It is a religiously-based AVERSION to the truth.
Salome,
Dyson
P.S. As mentioned on the other thread Bianca, (in case you missed it) thanks for your generous offer, and please email me your snailmail address and I'll fix you up! |
Dae_il
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 07:57 am: |
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Hi all.
I am drinking distiled water for 7 months.
but I don't know which water good to drink between filtered water and distiled water.
In Korea we can't drink tap water.
There are good and bad opinions about distiled water.
Please anyone who know about that tell me the truth.
Thank you
Dale Ko} |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 258
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 10:04 am: |
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I would not drink distilled water, as minerals contained in it are necessary for a correct metabolism.
Filtered means water without chlorine, nitrates, carbonates, organic matter and other unwanted substances.Distilled means pure H20.
So my recommendation is filtered water, much healthier than distilled water.You need so called activated carbon filters in order to purify the water.
http://hometips.com/cs-protected/guides/waterfilters.html |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 251
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |
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Hello Dale, I think that it is preferable to drink distilled water rather than dangerous, polluted water, however it is better to drink a good quality mineral water rather than distilled water. The problem is knowing which mineral water is of good quality and that doesn't also have dangerous elements such as lead in it. Unfortunately also, is that just because a mineral water has a popular brand name doesn't mean that it is a good quality of water to drink... |
Adam
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 10:57 pm: |
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Hi Dae il,
Distilled water is the best to drink as it is the cleanest and purest. Reverse osmosis water filters are also very good. Both distilled and reverse osmosis methods remove most if not all harmful parasites and fluoride.
Almost all filters on the market do not remove fluoride. There are some but they are not cheap and not worth the replacement cost in the long term.
Do not worry about losing minerals in the process because they can easily be replaced by using good quality sea salt on your food, rather than ordinary table salt.
Hope this helps
Adam |
Dae_il
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 04:46 pm: |
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Hi Adam,Thomas,Hector.
Thank you very much for your reply.
but I am still confused which water better.
Adam, are you drinking distilled water so far?
Thank you for helps
Dale Ko |
Adam
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 05:37 am: |
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Hi Dale
I purchased a reverse osmosis filter about 6 months ago after using standard filters that can be bought at the supermarket. I noticed a big improvement in the quality of water, it tastes better and makes me feel better too.
How do you feel? I guess that after drinking distilled water for 7 months you must feel better?
Unpolluted water filtered by nature is the best but next to that I think distilled or reverse osmosis water is the ideal choice.
Regards
Adam |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 276
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:01 pm: |
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I have a reverse osmosis system at home and it makes a huge difference. The smaller the micron the better the filtration.
But then this: read the word EVIAN backwards....??? |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 04:04 pm: |
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It is worth mentioning here the significant contributions done by Victor Schauberger; his concepts of biotechnique and the energy of living water. I think the best book about this area of his research is “Living Water,” by Olof Alexandersson. Some of you may also remember Schauberger mentioned in the Contact Notes as an impulse/telepathic contactee. Or of his internment by the Nazis during WWII to work on flying discs.
Schauberger was a natural at observing the creational laws growing up in the woods of Austria. He studied in nature the shapes that sustained living energy which he named, “multiple centripetal movement”, in the beds of creeks and rivers, the gills and fins on fishes, the wings of the birds, blood vessels, a spiral galaxy, etc
Crucial to this concept are spiraling vortexes. These forces are capable of building or condensing biological systems and also “dia-magnetism.” This dia-magnetism is opposed to gravitation and explains how life-forms on the surface of the earth can grow up in the air.
In a nutshell, Schauberger concluded that the healthiest water to drink, was water that was cooler in temperature and had traveled a circuitous route such as a winding creek, spring or passing over river rock. Distilled water, although it is very pure, simply lacks the living energy that he describes. Fortunately, Schauberger also explained ways to artificially introduce such energy vortexes with coiling devices and/or storing the water in an egg-shaped cistern. Both of these methods can be found and purchased on the internet.
And that’s my two liters worth.
Regards
Bob |
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