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Kingman
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew,

To judge any mans reality on one aspect of a necessary and strategic positioning to gain leadership, arguably, of the most dangerous and difficult job that our present world knows, that is fought for by the challengers with zero regards for humanities demise, needs to come from strong experiences that justify such a public dismissing.

You judge poorly and unfairly. Your harshness is unbalanced, for I hardly doubt you know this man.

Am I unaware of your access to privileged knowledge that clearly gives you this rightful position to harshly label this human being?

While perfection escapes all, faults can be the medicine of knowledge when we are accepting of these mistakes. And what some may call wrongful, (hmmm, let's see, like Billy's job as a smuggler, breaking out of jail, being a runaway,) others call out, "checkmate!" and rise to where their ideas have a chance.

There's always more to discover about another person, once they get a chance to rest and catch their breath.

If we fail to choose, we chose to fail. Your an accomplished writer that is very intelligent, in so far as composing your thoughts and ideas for others to read. I'm curious if you study more that just headlines or talking points.

Our world is simple to understand if you get just one little truth that students of history all eventually uncover. The gold exchangers are the historians and they decide what will be read and what will be obscured from the masses. Only diligence and the use of ones mind can sluice-away the controls the gold changers cling to in their greed. Tis not the gold they desire.

Israelites are people. Their current situation as citizens is as bad as Americans find themselves. Leaders driving megalomaniac idealist agendas and more corrupt than any fiction novel. There aren't any fanatics running these governments, just filthy, greedy, controllers of events for PROFIT! Fanatics can't see past their dried out bug eyes as they maintain their one-thought view that possesses all their focus.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Kingman
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Billy did say who caused 911. He said it was terrorists. The real terrorists wear suits and hide in plain sight. He also mentioned that the criminals responsible would probably never be charged for the crimes due to the positions of power and the fear they emanate towards any who stand to expose their involvement, and the fortunes they direct pay off the bribable officials to, "tow the line and be rewarded".
a friend in america
Shawn
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Alan
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Actually Billy did say who caused 911. He said it was terrorists. The real terrorists wear suits and hide in plain sight."


Billy only said that it was terrorists who caused the 911 attacks, and for a while this caused much dismay, debates and arguements amongst ourselves in objection to who Billy said was responsible until Michael Horn much later brought to our attention that the dictionary definition of a terrorist is "a person who is politically motivated". The arguements immediately then stopped thanks to Michael for wising up to that.
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Markc
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Post Number: 623
Registered: 06-2000
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a vision of concept in which the United States was to release a program of non-religious education for all of the nations experiencing religious conflicts the and religious factions within , by example of how much progress has been made in America in terms of racism .

Of course , such classes might not be realistic at the moment because of the background of occupation , but it came to me in a daydream , which this example seems closely related to a pipe-dream .

Maybe it would be better received if another nation introduced the concept to them . The feeling of trust and letting go of hatred and prejudice is probably the most powerful psychological medicine there is .
Mark Campbell
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Adysor
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,
I just found and read a little bit of this:
http://www.ucadia.com/

It's pretty complex, I barely understand what it means. I would like any of you to check it out and give me your opinion on this.

Thanks, peace
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Kingman
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adysor,

That site you posted is a place to spend any unwanted money that you want to set free. It's the start of another Scientology-type foundation/church/cult. Somebody bundled together all the various 'New Age" styled writings and gave it a one stop package to do all your "spiritual" shopping in one place.

Is there something of value there? Sure we'll learn somethings, but do we really need these bits and pieces of knowledge mixed together with false beliefs.

Too much to read to give you the total picture and frankly I have more important things to try to understand along with learning German.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Alan
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Post Number: 189
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the Silent Revolution Of Truth film Billy says that Sfath met various people around the world such as Ghandi, Berolf and Sellasi and that he introduced himself to them as an Extraterrestial. This goes against what the Ptaah said in that special bulletin (i forgot where it is) about no Human ET contacts ever taking place. There is also the case of Verner Von Browns friend too.

Why did they lie to us about that in that bulletin? I say it was a lie because I don't think it was a case of a being mistake because they said something like - after doing a thorough research on the matter using new machine we have found no evidence of ET human contacts ever taking place...
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings All In Peace,

Adysor, I have also visited the website you mention.

Shawn makes a good observation...: "Is there something of value there? Sure we'll learn somethings, but do we really need these bits and pieces of knowledge mixed together with false beliefs."

I found there some well written concepts relating to establishment of REGIONAL Constitutions. These are under the topic: "Universal Statistical Model of World." Then scroll down to "Related SITES" and click on any, or each, of the six regions to bring up a short discussion. Click on the map Icon to bring up proposed Constitutions and Infrastructure for each region. These appear to well thought through, quite comprehensive proposals.

Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Matthew_deagle
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alan,

Ptaah did not say that "no ET contacts ever took place". Ptaah said that no one is currently in direct, official contact with extraterrestrials on Earth other than Billy. There are thousands of impulse-contactees at this time, and there have been many contactees in the past. Billy's teacher, Bhante Dharmawara, was also contacted by Asket, for instance, among many others who were implicated in her mission for Earth. There have been many negative E.T. contacts, too, such as by the Bafath and the Men in Black--although the Bafath are now gone, and the Men in Black group are no longer a danger to us as of 2002, according to a note by Ptaah in Contact 251. All "alien abductions" occuring on Earth today, and the like, are either delusional, the work of malicious secret government groups, caused by electromagnetic disturbances, etc. If any real contacts occur, they are not part of an official, face-to-face contactee scenario like with Billy.

Salome,

- Matthew
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Alan
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you sure? I thought it was any form of ET contacts.

There was also talk in the Contacts that was along these lines too - no form of ET human contacts.
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Matthew_deagle
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alan,

Do you read German? If not, get someone else to translate some of the Contact Nots for you. There are even long lists of real contactees and the natures of their experiences, in a couple of places, e.g. in Block 1 discussed by Semjase and Billy.

Besides defying common sense and stochastic probability, they certainly have discussed and described all manner of contacts between extraterrestrials and Earth-humans.

The point of Ptaah's strong words in the particular contact which you seem to have misinterpreted, was that the majority of so-called 'contactees' are either psychotically deluded, frauds/charlatans, or, perhaps mos often, persons being deceived by military groups who use sophisticated mind-control and illusion-generating techniques. (I say this because, according to a variety of sources, e.g. Tom Bearden, there are now electromagnetic means of transmitting such 'experiences' and programming to a person, e.g. in the dream state, which certainly makes the logistical side of such mass-mind-control much less costly).

In my view, all programming, however, has ultimately to do with creating beliefs in the mind which override the thoughts and feelings. These then must be defended by the automatic emotional reactions produced by their presence in the brain. This probably even includes the maintenance of 'alters' in a memory-segregated state. Thus, if you want to mind-control someone, you have to at lest make them believe that they have a reason to 'forget' something.

This, however, due to its nature, can be fully reversed through the meditation practises described by Billy in "Einfuehrung in die Meditation" and "Meditation aus klarer Sicht".

Most persons who are programmed for specific purposes, though, such as fake contactees, 'presidential models', etc., are chosen for their genetic propensity toward right temporal lobe seizures and other factors (the same genes which predispose to religion which Billy has spoken of). This makes using meditation to control the 'Emotionen' involved in programming more difficult for some. Also, some persons are so submissive to the illogical thoughts involved in programming that they do not recover from it. The same goes for cult-religion, which is and always has been a kind of programming of the beliefs and 'Emotionen'.

It appears that there are actually very many persons now who are specifically programmed to perform certain tasks, spread certain false doctrines, etc., by groups under the CIA, as well as other agencies like KGB (yes, they are still around), Mossad, and organised crime groups which operate like 'unofficial intelligence agencies'. Thus, I recommend that one understand and recognise the signs of this type of programming, so that they may know how to deal with certain kinds of persons (including many 'UFO contactees').

Salome,

- Matthew
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Alan
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You must be right then. I must have gotten what Ptaah said about ET contacts mixed up with all forms of ET contacts.

Scott where did that "latest in regards to ET's' bulletin go? I can't find it anymore since the forum changed.
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Badr
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Post Number: 340
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Alan,

Not sure which topic you mean, you can use the search function and under "Look in:" choose "Subject Lines" to find topics.

Salome, Badr
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Scott
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Post Number: 1455
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 04:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Alan,

I'm not aware there ever was such a topic heading. Unless your talking about the "Sonder-Bulletins" which FIGU issues every so often? You might try James Moore's website, he has listed many of the bulletins which Gaiaguys have translated over the years.

Scott
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Alan
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott and Badr,

No, I'm just asking if you know where that Special Bulletin about the latest regarding truth of ET Contacts went too. It was translated into english by Figu and it used to be located on the front page of the old english Figu website, but can't seem to find where it is now since it all changed.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1456
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alan,

Try this:
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2006/nr-25/matters-of-extraterrestrials

I just typed in Betty Hill on the German Website

Scott
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Alan
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Scott,

thats the one!


Hi Matthew,

In my number 189 post I said that "This goes against what the Ptaah said in that special bulletin (i forgot where it is) about NO Human ET contacts ever taking place."


I see now where I got mixed up after reading that special bulletin. Ptaah actually does say that all forms of ET contacts are not true, but I missed/forgot that bit that Ptaah refers to later in the contact about Sfath's earth human's contacts.


"Ptaah.........Altogether, in earlier time, every incident in this respect we accepted as the truth, like contacts between earth's human beings and beings foreign to earth as well as abductions by beings foreign to earth; however, they have been proven wrong through our newest technology according to investigations for such incidents that go back to the early times of the 20th, and the 19th century................................Then there were the teachers in India who taught you; they had in part physical and in part conscious telepathic contacts with us, whereas at first my father Sfath and thereafter Asket were the important persons for these contacts. In the last century, only one unintentional contact took place in South America whereby the space travellers came from another space-time structure from the region of Alpha Centauri. The contacts between us and human beings of earth are all known to you, and it must be added that all these contact persons have all died and kept silent about their contacts if they were at all conscious of them, which was only so in rare cases."
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Alan
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Post Number: 194
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to see some in our Science Establishment are not only waking up to this God delusion but are also pushing to making it known to public. One who has my respect is physicist Richard Dawkins who has helped and also risked his career over the years by putting out several videos on the God delusion issue. One of the good ones are, part 1 -

The Root of All Evil? - The God Delusion (1 of 2)
The God Delusion explores the unproven beliefs that are treated as factual by many religions and the extremes to which some followers have taken them. Prof Richard Dawkins talks tough...
47 min - Apr 7, 2007
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9002284641446868316


And speaking of someone in our notable Science Establishment who I have lost recently some respect for is Steven Hawkings. Hawking makes a reference to the UFO phenomenon exactly 5 minutes into this speech. His position on UFO's is naive beyond words! Hawking is a perfect example of how educated people are often so focused on their one chosen specialist subject that they are completely ignorant of any subjects outside it. However much Hawking knows about the Workings of the Universe he could do with his mind broadening a bit. He could try and visit this forum for a start!

In a conversation to Ptaah, Billy said that Steven Hawkings is a genius. He may be on Cosmology, but on UFO's he is ignorant, dumb and complete failure!

Stephen Hawking: On big questions about the universe and UFO's 2008, 10 mins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBIsp8mS-c


Hawkings -"We don't seem to have been visited by aliens. I'm discounting reports of ufo's. Why would they only appear to cranks and wierdo's? If there is a government conspiracy to suppress the reports and keep the scientific knowledge the aliens brings it seems to have been a singularly ineffective policy so far. Furthermore despite extensive searching by the SETI project we haven't heard any television clip shows........"
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Alan
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made a mistake in my last post. It was actually Ptaah who said to Billy that Stephen Hawking's was a genius and not the other way around. It was in reference to Hawking's knowledge of the Workings of the Universe.
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear All,

I would like to ask you all. Can I (a student) help in any way in translating the book «Kelch der Wahrheit». My situation right now does not account for that still I want to help in any way I can. Please give me your suggestions to what i can do at adityasonakia@gmail.com

Thank you all

Salome
Aditya
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Matthew_deagle
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alan,

Indeed. Though Hawking is a genius and has contributed much to theoretical physics, cosmology, and philosophy, he does apppear to be a bit of a "Fachidiot", or at least isolated from the real world of politics, coverups, corruption, etc.

Most academics are very pampered persons who have not a clue about the real world, which is often a reason why they become academics (unable to cope with the barbarity of real life on Earth). Unfortunately, many of those who are in touch with the real world, such as Leo Strauss' 'offspring', are fascists, Machiavellians, etc.

Hawking does deserve credit for discovering some logical reasons why Creation must work the way that the Plejaren inform us it does, although some of these logical reasons were discovered without scientific instruments or mathematics thousands of years ago...

I'm a fan of Hawking, but perhaps he is also a victim of egotistical inflation due to his trumped-up academic position. This is often how the well-intentioned dupes in academia are used by the Machiavellians to e.g. write encryption algorithms for the NSA, build heinous weapons of mass destruction, design surveillance systems, etc.

Unfortunately, no academic, who likely stands at level 3.1-3.4 spiritually, may be excused for such childish lack of self-responsibility and indiscrimination about whence funding comes.


Salome,

- Matthew
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Alan
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Post Number: 196
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew,

Hawking's disability is no excuse for him for what he said there in that speech on the ufo matter that was aired on TV networks around the world. His disability does make him a bit isolated from communicating amongst his fellow cosmologists and others around that field but not that much that it would cause him to not be aware of what the opinions on ufo's are of other cosmologists and the like. He is still able to communicated with any of them by way of email and so forth. I assume he would do that quite a bit too because of his position he holds, like people asking him questions and such. He is also quite capable of watching TV and readings books, magazines, newspaper, ect. There is plenty of evidence everywhere that points to the direction that we have been visited by aliens. Even evidence in the our past which everyone knows about - monuments, pyramids, ect.

I have lost some respect for him because he should have known better then to say that. He knows that a lot of people from all walks of life around the world will take what he said there on the ufo issue seriously, and what he said there clearly indicates that his hardly done any serious research on the ufo matter or given it much thought, or else I don't believe he would have said that ignorant crap there. He doesn't do that with cosmology, so why do it on the most important issue on the planet - ufo's.
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Alan
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

btw, in case some are wondering how Hawking's is able to read any books and material with his disability, its all on his screen including the internet. He has a constant helper with him at all times and one of their jobs include them scanning on a computer any books or material that he would like to read, and then letting him turn the pages over on his screen or reading it whenever he likes. I also read that he likes surfing the net quite a bit too. Thats why i said "However much Hawking knows about the Workings of the Universe he could do with his mind broadening a bit. He could try and visit this forum for a start!"

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