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Edward
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Post Number: 865
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 02:37 am: | 
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Hi Incredible....
Once again you proved to be very - Incredible -!
Indeed: YOU should judge YOURSELF first, before judging someone else!
Only someone with very 'limited' Knowledge and a BIG Dose of SELF Ignorance
can say such Illogical HATEFUL things.
YOU should indeed STUDY Billy's Spiritual Teachings! And than, gradually your
SELF Ignorance and HATE sentiments will Filter itself away!?
It is all up to YOU, to live as a SELF Ignorant human being, or become a
Conscious Logical Thinking Creature of Creation: AS YOU SHOULD BE!
Such Illogical thinking/analyses generates Warmongers...which have no
intention for Love, Peace, Harmony....etc.....within the human society!
I think it is truly very wise to Study what Billy has to say before you
Crumble...further into a Narrow Minded...SELF Deluded individual.
Edward. |
Incredible
Member
Post Number: 77
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 09:40 am: |
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Hey people:
As I said, I have my ideals and nobody will change my ideals. because my ideals are founded in what I see, not in what the mass media say.
Sorry but I don't fit in the politically correct crap.
And I finished this discussion.
And not respond to my reply in this thread because I will not read them.
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive off her"
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Markc
Member
Post Number: 541
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 01:59 pm: |
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Incredibly immature and inexperienced .
Mark Campbell
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Thetruth
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 02:14 am: |
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Hello Incredible (in case you happen to read this) you seem very close minded about your ideals,
I think i cannot change your ideals but hopefully change the way you see things! If the world was close minded and to themselves about the way they thought, acted etc.. do you think our society would grow more intelligent, reasonable and understanding? If everyone was close minded then wouldn't debates/conversations to discuss future actions for the best outcome not be possible? The very foundation of all fields of work is the co-operation of people to work towards a untied goal. A group of people must discuss and be open minded to establish any goal, like people building a house, if two people both worked off different designs on the same house because they were too stubborn to come to a comprimise don't you think the house would be a failure? even if your ideals were correct in accordance to creation dont you think close mindedness would stop your teachings being considered by people of a different path?
Please Consider my words and reply to debate 
Regards
P.s. Life is what we make it if your worried about what will happen or what has happened more than you need to how are you going to ever enjoy the present? |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 267
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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Someone confidentially asked me about this...
The brown race is the race indigenous to this planet. The other races are from other planets and galaxies.
A race is determined by environment, breeding, or planetary influence.
Some are less spiritually evolved than others and appear immature or even mentally absent, but it is only due to their limited spiritual knowledge, experience, energy, and consciousness...
As the celestial sons bred with the Earth beings, so the earth beings bred with the native Earth beings and we will advance and evolve spiritually together as mixed races. (loosely taken from Jmmanuel's arcanum(secret)line 24 of the Talmud Jmmanuel[TJ]) |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 887
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 05:47 am: |
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Hi Rarena....
We still have to keep in mind, that those races whom are of ET origin, did
come to Earth in Space Crafts or some sort. And thus: They were...Materially
Technically Advanced in their development; thus, Materially and Spiritually.
We must not forget that the Technology aspects also played a role in their
coexisting with each other! In the Contract Notes it is also said that these
ET races did have WAR confrontations with each other! And that the usage of
Nuclear weaponry was inevitable!
And so, there were indeed Nuclear Wars..far in the past, as mentioned, and the
results would then be: that those races that lost the Wars, at least those
whom survived: had to start all over again with trying to build a suitable
civilization. Some, managed...and some did not.
Some made progression, but very very slowly. And those whom did still have a
sort of civilization, may have ruled over those whom they defeated. And made
sure that those would not evolve in a natural way as they did before. Just
like Arus(or those way before him, further back in time) and so on; whom were
only out to Enslave Man, in any shape or form! And this too, contributed to,
that certain races stagnated in their Evolution. Just as has been the case, as
we look back at our past history of events, what our Western forefathers,
made happen.
Thus: 'Consciously' Suppressing another Race or Races would have been a
common scenario: all to claim Power over the Peoples; keep them for the Dumb
and Stagnate their Evolution.
So, it would indeed be a very difficult task for those races or tribes to
"pick up the grain", so to speak...once again: Spiritually and Materially.
What did Mr. Bush and Co. once say about War scenarios?
If there is no other alternative...we will put them back into the Stone Ages!
And this is what did happen may times in the past. The same Mentality.
So, we must not forget: "Power and Rule", over other Peoples. This same idea,
still lives today! And will keep those Peoples from further Evolving, as they
should.
And as Billy did say: that NO ONE has the right to Stagnate someone else's
Evolution!
No matter what the situation is. Common-Sense, Logic and Reason...are to be
applied where it is needed, to avoid any greater conflicts; to maintain Peace
and Harmony for all.
Edward. |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 301
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 01:17 pm: |
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Hi Edward...
Very well said. Stagnation. Not using common sense logic and reason at the same time maintaining peace and harmony.
Was going to mention this to Incredible, but alas... he says he does not read this section... It was the predominatly white race who enslaved the black race and brought them to the United States and this may be cause and effect...
Just the thought of what happened to the American Black's ancestors, not unlike the Asians as during WW2 and American Indians... I might add....
It is interesting that my experience with black people in the Carribean has been met with very polite and a somewhat different personality than many in the USA, yet I know many black people here in the US who I KNOW... I can entrust my very life in their care. Indeed some black people feel like family to me... Jamaicans have a markedly different personality as well...
Cause and effect. Environment and policy.
Could not imagine the cruelty and ignorance that implemented the capture from their ancestral African families... all those years of family wisdom and history... lost. The thought is terrifying. The ensueing and animalistic breeding program for... slavery... truly terrible.
Those blacks who have the decency and grace to act humanely to a government and peoples who allowed these inspeakable actions to occur to their ancestors... yet remain humane... have created a chance for themselves to redeem their spirituality, their consciousness... and gain some of that lost spirituality and wisdom. |
Seeker
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 12:59 pm: |
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Hey, TODAY the more violent ethnic group are the blacks, and we can see that in every countries.
I know that many here are too coward to see the reality as it is, and for this reason they will attack me.
THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH.
um that is wrong, very wrong...just look at who is causing all of the war mongering and funding in this world today and you find those most ruled by violence...colour and region has nothing to do with it...religion and power-hunger does however. |
Incredible
Member
Post Number: 115
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 08:00 pm: |
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Nobody will change my mind.
What I perceive is what I perceive and this is the reality.
If I perceive something, then that is my reality.
Your perception is not equal to my perception, so your reality and your form of seeing the world is not like the form in what I see the world.
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Seeker
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 11:10 am: |
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Incredible, I found a quote I think we can both agree upon, I happened upon it serendipitiously, it comes from Plato Gorgias.
"[...] the punishment of a disordered mind is its own disorder"
I hope this isn't seen as an attack of any sort...but I thought it might add introspection to the conversation. (though I respectfully disagree with your particular assessment of the situation).
salome |
Psycloud
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 08:10 pm: |
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I see it as a difference in culture.
Stereotypically in the United States black people seem more violent (physically), but black people from Africa have this general properness about them, and they are well mannered, and generally do not cause any violence. Perhaps they have much more patience with people then the black people that grew up here. I think a lot of white people are just as bad (financially speaking) when it comes to the crimes they are caught up in. However these are only stereotypes.
Ken
I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth.
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Markc
Member
Post Number: 579
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 09:16 am: |
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HI Ken ;
That is a very clear point . In the company of Africans , I have experienced true congeniality .
Kind Regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Thomas2008
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 04:43 am: |
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To Psycloud. The reason for the aggressive nature of african americans is due to suppression of the american government and racism. Native africans are surpressed from a greater distance and things such as racism are not something they experience often as they are all the same race in native African colonies. The fact that the US is run by money is a cause of frustration for african americans because they don't get a fair 'bite at the cherry'. In africa everyone is equal and money isn't such a commodity so everyone gets by reasonably in the same way. Therefore there's more balance in attitudes. |
Thomas2008
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 04:54 am: |
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To incredible. You sound like you think the truth but the way you describe 'What I perceive is what I perceive and this is the reality'. It is delusional to say that, There is only one truth no matter how you percieve it the truth stays the same for all times and is never adjusted to new ideas or new ways of thinking. The truth cannot be altered through perceptions, only further understood. You see eventually everyone will know the same truth only some will have a higher understanding than others that will be the only diffrence. |
Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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hey thomas2008,
about your #6 post. have you been living under a rock?
tutsi's... does that ring a bell for you?
do you realize whats going on in africa today?
racism. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1068
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 06:29 am: |
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Hi Peter.....
Very well said!
As the Plejarans once said: the White man can not always boss around the Non
Whites; this will only Backfire...on him...one day!
And this results, of course, to the White man being the Minority in
number...on Earth.
And as Billy once said(in the sense): here, from a Negative....a Positive will
arise!
Which clearly shows: That It Backfired!
Edward. |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 06:04 pm: |
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Yea ive noticed racism is very much still a problem.The other day i walked into a Pakistanian resturant And the clerk gave me this since of seperation like "Americans" arent welcome.But what confuses me is why migrate to another countrie if you dislike the people or there ways?I feel we should all be honored to be apart of Earth, at the end of the day we are all earthlings and no one being should have power over the other only what you allow(law of allowance)
Pledja |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 188
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 08:45 pm: |
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> ["Dear Pledja,
Well, the main reason for a person to migrate to another country is for getting a better standard of living. And moving to a country like US, they feel they can get more than they would get in thier own country.
Yes, it is right what you say. We should be proud to be part of the Earth, but today the problem is that nobody thinks that way. But, yes it will happen some day.
By the way, I hope you are not upset with that person's behaviour. Pakistani's are good people. Only thier government has a problem, but thier people are nice. Trust me on that, cause I am an Indian, as you must have guessed from my name.
Salome Aditya"
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1079
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 08:03 am: |
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Hi Pledja and Aditya....
Pledja: Well you are indeed experienceing the - Backfiring - Effect, if you
will. This indeed does take place. Me being form Dutch and Indonesian
background, we are called Indish/Jndjsh, meaning a mix of both worlds, I have
encounter such incidents also.
There is always a 'Reverce' Effect, which is just based on Consequences: Cause
and Effect. And alas, it can manifest itself, in a mild or even radical
manner.
Best to not pay any attention, and stay Positive. I can only speak of
expreience, take it from me: I KNOW....HOW being discriminated upon feels
like! It is not a pleseant experience.[Just a couple of weeks ago, a black man
was pushed before a train, but out-lived it; and just this weekend, two black
young ladies were bicycling and were called names and one was pushed of her
bike, just to name a couple of recent incidents...and still ongoing, alas]
And here is where the innocent have to experience what others/the Guilty
conjure up, so to speak.
In your case, in the resturant, or even other public places, I would just not
go to such place anymore, and make another choise...of establishment, where
Positivity is projected. So, it is up to you to deterime your destiny, so to
speak. And still enjoy your dinner...
Aditya: very well said.
Edward. |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 01:57 pm: |
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Hi aditya and edward
I agree with both.I took no offense to her actions because i don't let myself become victamized.It did show me her current level of thinking though i didnt let my mind run to wild to the point of Emotions taking over.Though i do think its a good thing to express anger towards these things which i refer to as "reality checks"
Pledja |
Socrates
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 05:17 pm: |
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The illogical idea will correct itself through time.
Wherever the idea about one race being dominant over another came from it will vanish as we come to look into each other's eyes and see ourselves looking back. Give it time, it is not something to be very concerned about. It is but just a small cut on a finger that will heal in time, even if it means the death of the finger if infected, the finger will one day regrow as the man is reborn and the man as a result will know better not to be so careless with his knife ;) |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1080
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 09:19 am: |
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Hi Pledja....
Well, Billy did mention...that the foreigners whom come to the west just want
to have a better life and live happily as anyone else does. And they have no
intention to make trouble or any sort. But...alas, in the countries they
immigrate to there will always be xenophobic and racists. And whom need an
'escape goat', if you will. And this I would agree with Billy, having to have
sensed this personally.
And it is a fact, that since the 911 scenario: Xenophobic and Racist behavior
has increased. Thus, also something to thank our Western Governments for:
generating Wars aboard, and as Consequence - Cause and Effect, 911 took it's
stance. And this was the - Backfiring - effect, which to be honest, I was
awaiting for it to happen! Because, I myself, could sense the tension of the West
and the East...building up and ready to explode! Which it did, on that day.
So, I was not really surprised....to see it happen.
Even here, in the country I live in, you can sense the HATE....towards one and
other! And this HATE is just escalating, as effect. And than you have even
certain Politicians whom...make it even more worse...by insulting the Islam
and Mohammed. And by doing so, this will also have effect on our society, alas
to say. Such Politicians we should get rid of, on the spot! If they have
nothing constructive to say, or contribute to the ONENESS of our society...
they should be relieved from their position. Than, - Forcible Forcelessness
-..would be in it's place.[Forcible non-violence is the way of passive, logic
force, or an active non-violence.]
BTW: Welcome to the FIGU board and Pleasant Studying...
Edward. |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:39 pm: |
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Hi and thanks edwuard.
As you may now know im American, I always get the feeling that "America" always ends up being the scapegoat.I find the west to be a pleaseant place minus the Ideology. |
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