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    Patm Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 07-2006 |
Tetrahedron, An explanation of the Pleiadians and Plejaren can be found in FIGU Bulletin No. 1 - article: Withdrawal by the Pleiadians/Plejaren at: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_1 Salome PatM | ||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2014 |
See that article http://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/article/?id=14728 and the underlying free research paper over here http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00558-8 Do you think that it renders solid enough evidence for the facts that: - All humans are born genuinely empathetic and loving of each other, to a point of wanting no better for oneself than the next one. - Punishment and revenge are no normal and natural reactions to wrongdoing. My impression is that it does so. Am therefore referring to the study for backing up those important messages of the spiritual teachings. Attention, see Mr. Jensen’s unfounded statement in the press release, that punishment must be learned later on for “stabilizing cooperation”. That one needs to get exposed as what it is, a personal opinion. Salome, Stefan | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 867 Registered: 12-2009 |
Stefan, I couldn't get your link to work, but based on what you posted, I'll respond that: I think that the majority of people are born naturally with what FIGU refers to as "love for the next ones" and "feelings for others", and that punishment, craving for retaliation, and revenge are taught by parents, schools, etc. when a child is indoctrinated into religion at a young age. This societal problem is very negative, because it naturally changes children from what is natural (love, peace, harmony etc.) to what is unnatural and man-made (Gewalt). There is not a natural animal on any planet that conforms to any sort of religious God-delusion-belief, just more so the human-beings of Earth, more so then on any other planet. People try to garnish revenge on their enemies, trying to fulfill a non-existent "God's" will, which is totally false, which also leads to the barbariousness of jealousy, zealousy, fanaticism, and xenophobia, and this whole thing is far from the laws and recommendations of Creation. Creation is always neutral, loving, and logical, and would never demand cravings for retaliation, punishment, or revenge. This is strictly a false human custom, that is far from the laws and recommendations of Creation, as revealed in "Goblet". Our laws are backwards on Earth, laws of revenge and craving for retaliation such as the death penalty, are backwards, instead of "an eye for an eye", we would need to revolutionize our laws so these criminals would be deported (unharmed) to islands or isolated land tracts, to places of fulfillment of guidelines, and be given the bare minimum of equipment to survive, and have access to the spiritual teaching, so they can learn from their mistakes, and evolve correctly, so they do not repeat these mistakes in future lifetimes. If they cannot be rehabilitated, they would stay there for the rest of their lives, separated from opposite gender, and society for the duration of their lives. According to Billy's recommendations in the book "Law of love", infidelity while married would also be a banishible offence, for a certain time period, if this were the case on Earth, the threat of (unharmed) banishment would dry up cheaters impulses to cheat on their spouse real quick, and there would not be so many bitter divorces due to infidelity either! Note: not committing adultery (just as you should not break your bond with the Creation itself) is also the fourth recommendation (aka commandment) from Petale, disseminated by Billy in the book "Dekalog/Dodekalog". If this were public knowledge, people would take marriage more seriously, less people's marriages would be doomed to fail, there would be less unwanted children to single mothers (which compounds overpopulation [not to mention that kids need fathers and strong male role models]), etc. But our current Earth-based terrestrial laws regarding infidelity are too lax, and backwards, which just illogically compounds our societal problems. Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 362 Registered: 12-2011 |
Stefan_z2 Thank our lucky stars that we are all different. We behave differently and this experiment is not 100% correct. We all know right from wrong but our passion and the conditioning from parents makes us prone to mistakes. The good part is that we learn by our mistakes. Unfortunately when it comes to adults power blinds us in making correct decisions. Mainly with politicians and the scientists who should have more brains. joe | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 04-2011 |
“Getreue” (may) only incarnate to assist Nokodemion's mission In 2008 Hector asked: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/9386.html (Section “Answers From Billy”) “The story of the Nokodemion spirit form is quite fascinating. My question adresses the 144218 peoples that freely decided to contribute/help/assist his mission 12000 million years ago. The "normal" evolutionary cycle of human beings include 40-80 million years up to the high council level and 60000-80000 million years to reach arahat athersata. There is something wrong with the evolutionary cicle of those 144218, because it does not match the "regular" or "normal" evolutionary cicle. They all should have already reached High Council level. What happens to them, to the so called "Getreuen", do they stay in the beyond for longer time between incarnations, in comparison to "normal" reincarnation cycles? “ Billy’s Answer: “There have been long periods when that group of spirit forms had been “laid on ice” (in a waiting position). However, this is a one-time exception, because all other spirit forms in our universe are evolving at normal speed and are finishing their incarnation cycles much faster and at “normal speed”. All the many descendants of those “Getreue” have already entered the level of Arahat Athersata and have lived through their normal evolutionary cycle. “ This post had a sequence in the German Forum, too: http://forum.figu.org/de/messages/3/2590.html?1445029109#POST14785 In this forum Hector thought of a possible explanation why these spirit forms do not incarnate so often: “Ich behaupte, diese 144218 Menschen inkarnieren nur, wenn eine gewisse Geistlehre - Menschheitsbelehrung vorhanden ist und erfüllt werden muss, wie zum Beispiel jetzt auf der Erde.” “I maintain (that) these 144 218 humans only incarnate when a certain Spirit Teaching – Teaching of Mankind exists and must be implemented, as for instance now on Earth.” He then asks the moderator, Hans*), to correct him if his explanations were wrong or not precise: “Hans, korrigiere mich bitte, falls ich etwas falsches/ungenaues dargelegt habe.” Hector’s post in the German Forum was from 2009. Up to now (2015) there was no reply from Hans. This would indicate that Hector’s assertion (“Getreue” only incarnate in times when a Spirit Teaching is to be spread) is correct. *) Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer (KG der 49) works very closely together with Billy | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1568 Registered: 07-2005 |
What I don't get to this very day is how on earth are we still at a stage where we are still arguing about whether we are alone in the universe or not. I mean truly what is such a big deal about other intelligent lifeforms existing elsewhere in the universe that we are still egotistically stuck on the false presumption of our exceptionalism and uniqueness. Obviously the religious rulers as well as the contemporary powers that be had much to do with suppressing the truth regarding intelligent lifeform existing elsewhere for self regarding motives but is this not a form of human weakness borne out by stupidity as well as by design that we earthling must hear it from a perceived authority in order to deem it credible and this being the reason why we are still arguing about whether we are still alone in the universe or not? Gosh I wonder about what period in our history did this campaign to suppress information about the existence of ET begin because I don't recall Billy covering this aspect in greater detail other than during the Taft presidency onwards. Why are we still stuck with our consciousness still being primitively bombarded by arcane disinfo groups like disclosure, prepare4contact and project Camelot etc pestering the equally ignorant governments for answers. Why does it take hearing from the government on anything before anything gets done? Why are individual people disempowering themselves as a result? | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 230 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation, You bring up some good points; you expressed what many of us that understand the truth also shake our heads about. The absolute arrogance of the power elite is almost beyond comprehension. We know that it's all about control of the masses. Look what happened to Galileo when he dared to correct the establishment by saying that Earth orbited the Sun; he almost died for that statement. Not to worry though; there is a new movie coming out to make sure that Earthlings see Extraterrestrials as the evil bad guys. This movie is called "Independence Day Resurgence", the sequel to the 1996 film Independence Day. You can be certain that the power elite have their fingers in this as well. You can also be guaranteed that NASA and all the major governments know the truth about extraterrestrials and are very aware of Billy’s material. In the past when working with a U.S. aerospace company with several X-astronauts in their employment; they were all forbidden to talk about this subject; the consequences were severe. Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1574 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yeah KENNETH poor Billy/Galileo wherever he goes and whichever body he is IN he always gets persecuted by earth monkeys. You said 'Not to worry though; there is a new movie coming out to make sure that Earthlings see Extraterrestrials as the evil bad guys. This movie is called "Independence Day Resurgence", the sequel to the 1996 film Independence Day. You can be certain that the power elite have their fingers in this as well'. Totally agree I just hope it was Galileo's middle finger pointing in their direction and not the other way around. 'You can also be guaranteed that NASA and all the major governments know the truth about extraterrestrials and are very aware of Billy’s material. In the past when working with a U.S. aerospace company with several X-astronauts in their employment; they were all forbidden to talk about this subject; the consequences were severe'. Well you just have to look at Buzz Aldrin to see what a shadow of a man gagged people become. This guy is a joke even to his very old age where he must have continuously suppressed and repressed his urges of wanting to tell the truth but was afraid for his life and now he just goes around with platitudes and speaking the polly talk who is more interested in the limelight and selling books than leaving a lasting legacy. I guess you can understand in a way especially when your loved ones are threatened as well. Imagine on his deathbed he stated loud and clear that Armstrong and himself never landed on the moon but just circled it and came back. That'll be the day Aye | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 231 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation, Maybe on his deathbed, Aldrin will say something; if not publicly, to his family? To be accurate, to my knowledge, Apollo-11 never circled the moon; they did not get that far, they only circled the Earth. If you have seen the 1978 movie, "Capricorn One", scheduled for Mars; it's pretty close to the 1969 Apollo-11 event. G-Man, a close friend; name redacted (U.S. Federal Investigator) was sent to talk to the producer's of Cap One, Paul Lazarus & Michael Rachmil to make sure that there were no Apollo-11 leaks. G-Man was shocked when told what the Plejaren said about Apollo-11. He said, "now I understand the secrecy behind this investigation!" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077294?ref_=vi_tt_t_tt_ov_vi | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1579 Registered: 07-2005 |
Oh I see I might be having a memory lapse or something. Do you remember which contact report Kenneth? | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 232 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation, No, you're not having a memory lapse. It's my understanding that the U.S. did not have the proper shielding to transverse the Van Allen radiation belts of energetic charged particles at that time. The Earth has at least two such belts. I'll see if I can find that article; It may not be in a Contact Report, but could be mistaken? You seem up to speed on this subject, so the attached may not be new to you? Contact Report 230 Part 4, near the bottom: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_230 This theatre spectacle was indeed only staged for political reasons and allegedly in order to have obtained a giant success before the Soviet Union because, at that time, the Russians already stood shortly ahead of the Yankees, coming before them with a manned Moon landing. But after the gigantic American swindle with the so-called Moon landing, which was cinematically faked in a suitable place in America, up to 1972, five Moon landings actually subsequently came about. Also, FIGU Special Bulletin 28 Translation http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_28 | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2588 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please lets get back on topic (Geisteslehre) | ||
Clay Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2014 |
Hi everyone, hope you are all well. I have a question, if anyone could help me with. I looked in the spiritual terminology page but didn't find everything, I was looking for. I'm on page #380 of "Might of Thoughts" bottom of the page XXV11. Billy is writing about consciousness, psyche, character, morality, disposition, inner nature and personality. I'm confused as to if all these things are all aspects of the personality, or if they are all separate entities within the human being or consciousness block or what? Thanks for the help, Clay | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 686 Registered: 08-2010 |
Clay, The things you listed in your post (and what Billy is referring to) are each aspects of the Human Being. Things such as; morality, character or inner-nature, pertain to the Personality (the human-Being) and are experienced internally. Things such as the Psyche, intelligence & reason, pertains to the human-body. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 288 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, I sent you an e-mail on Jan 19, 2016. Did you receive it? Salome, Bill | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2592 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Bill, Just checked my e-mail and didn't find any message from you? Did you use the link in the help section? I noticed the @ symbol is written which is incorrect. Let me know, Thanks Salome Scott | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 290 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, Corey gave me your email address (scott.baxter@forum.figu.org) That is where I send my e-mail to. Salome, Bill | ||
Clay Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2014 |
Thanks a bunch, Eddie. By the way, does anyone know how Billy is doing? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2593 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Bill, Yes that is the correct email address.....I'll check again in a few hours and let you know. Salome Scott | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 780 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi Clay This is my understanding at this point: The Material Consciousness Block/Mentality Block has been described as being made up of, in the least: 1. The Mental Block - which is composed of: the Material Consciousness, which arises from our thoughts which lead to feelings, which shape/form our Psyche (our mental state or condition) 2.The Individuality Block - which comprises of the Ego, Personality, Character , and our memories from the material consciousness and the subconsciousness. So, the individuality represents our inner nature, or our inner world. 3. The Subconsciousness Block These 'Blocks' are all linked, with the first two having a reciprocal action, back and forth. The Subconsciousness Block though, has a 'Censor' between it and the other two blocks, there being conditions that allow or limit information/data to flow back and forth from and to the Subconsciousness. Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 291 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, If you did not receive my second mail either: Maybe you could contact me via b1_j14_m15@outlook.com. I could then reply to your mail. Thank you for your assistance. Salome, Bill | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2595 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Bill, Nothing came through, I have sent you an email, hopefully it will reach you. Salome Scott | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 292 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Scott, I do not know why my e-mail did not reach you. But thank you - yes, your e-mail arrived. I am a little busy now but will reply tomorrow. Thank you again. Salome, Bill |
