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Thomas
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Post Number: 826
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 02:12 am: | 
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To the moderators: I post this here instead of the books section because it is primarily about the spiritual info and not where it comes from. With that in mind, I have a question. I thought of putting little bits of interesting info from BEAMs writings here on the forum but not quite to the same extent that moderator Jacob has done in the past. Knowing that BEAM says that people tend to ask specific questions when they are ready for more info on that topic, I asked myself if I should even post anything at all from the books etc unless a question had already been asked. I would like to know the moderators' opinions and if anything at all was posted (not quotes but general info), then what is the limit to what can or should be allowed in this type of post?
Thanks for your responses...
Thomas
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 05:08 am: |
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Steven as a response to your post # 222 I collected a few descriptions of a Human, exclusively the Materials that include the phrase " true human". As to the veering away well that's for another post.... Not Enough Room for all of that.
Sfath to Billy
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Sfath%27s_Explanation
You must be a true human and live for life, your mission and for your evolution, as well as also for your health and your welfare, for which reason you should be advised that you, in every respect, always exercise the necessary control over yourself.
Billy to Ptahh
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_032
And if, for once a true human comes into a government, who works in the sense of truth and reality for the people and the homeland, as for example, in Switzerland, the Upper House Member Christoph Blocher - who can be called the only truthful Member and represents the interests of the righteous, thinking and intelligent ones, as well as the interests of the country and thereby the homeland - who really recognizes the real problems and wants to change them to the better, then, in their own ranks, as well as among the people and in the parties,
Billy to us all,
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_056
And sages are needed who understand how to teach the people according to the creational laws and bring the people onto the path of the true human being so they do not acclaim the criminal state powers who entangle their countries and populations in war conflicts with other countries.
Billy to us all.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/And_there_shall_be_peace_on_earth...
True human beings, who wish for all mankind love, peace, freedom and harmony, and who do not succumb to the greed for power, self-aggrandizement, arrogance and megalomania, never use hatred, vindictiveness and destructive weapons to subjugate the world and other human beings.
Billy again to us in US.
http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/BillyonAmerica.pdf
As a true human being, one must prevent every war, and never stir one up.
Peace be to you, Matt
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Thomas
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Post Number: 828
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 06:05 am: |
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The process of Spiritual Telepathy according to Guido Moosbrugger (at a convention with an interpreter, thus there may be errors)
The sender has the thought in his material in his material consciousness.
That thought is changed within the material subconsciousness to a symbol form and sent at 147 times lightspeed to the material central consciousness.
From the material central consciousness, the impulses are sent (which are neither in symbolic, nor in word form) to the spiritual central consciousness.
From there, the impulses are sent to the spiritual subconsciousness, where they are changed somehow, or transformed, before sending them on to the spiritual consciousness.
From the spiritual consciousness of the sender, the impulses are sent to the receiver at 10 to the power of 7000 times lightspeed.
The receiver collects the impulses with his spiritual consciousness and processes them in reverse of the previously mentioned way, thus finally ending up with a thought in his material consciousness.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 830
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 05:59 am: |
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Hello all, I recently ran across a post in the german figu forum in regards to the supply of spirit forms for incarnating bodies. Atlantis responded that there are about 120 billion spirit forms connected to Earth at this time which have had at least one incarnation. However, if some circumstance arose in either the human or animal populations where there were not enough spirit forms to supply any newly conceived people or animals, then the pool of Creational energy would automatically supply new spirit forms to fill the need. I don't know any further details. I also do not know if Atlantis is the same Atlantis who happens to be the son of BEAM. If he is the same person, then I would take his information as accurate! :-)
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Hi Thomas
I got the impression from the post by Atlantis, that he was speaking generally about the new spirit forms being available from the 'pool'.
I do recall Billy or Christian saying that the evolution of the earth's population is too far advanced now to allow brand new spiritforms to develop. This means that the spiritforms spend less time in the 'beyond' and may not fully process the data from the previous incarnation.
I don't have a reference for this though, so will look for it, unless someone else can find it.
Robyn
(Message edited by indi on March 01, 2010)
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Thomas
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Post Number: 831
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:07 am: |
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Thanks Robyn I thought that too but does that mean the pool is limited???
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I would not think so, as the pool is available to the whole material universe. The spiritforms seek out bodies that suit their evolutionary level otherwise they have to wait.
Robyn
(Message edited by indi on March 01, 2010)
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 832
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:09 am: |
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Or another way to look at it: what would happen if there was a birth after the last of the pool was used up? (Though highly improbable!)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 405
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:27 am: |
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I think if there are at least 120 billion or so spiritforms as part of the reincarnation cycle on this planet, there will be plenty to service the human population, which can only increase to a certain level before it will naturally force a decrease in some way.
I remember seeing a movie called 'The Seventh Sign' which was about a child that was born when the 'Guff'(from the Jewish Talmud) was empty. This was the last sign, before the apocolypse. This is just highly dramatic religious rubbish, but before I came across Billy's material, it concerned me a little to think that was a possibility.
The pool will never be used up. Just as every single human spiritform will have reached Petale level before this Creation evolves to the next level in its evolution, Creation has provided for this in the design of it all.
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Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 410
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:39 pm: |
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Post from Michael Horn moved to 'The Mission', 'Ideas to help the Mission improve'
Robyn |
Dan_c
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 02:22 pm: |
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I appreciate the three answers I received in response to my question on being alone. Seems to be in line with what I've been noticing over the years. Figuring out ways and places to meet the right kinds of people for me has been the important thing. So far, figu is directly in line with everything I've come to discover. I've been extremely fortunate in my life. And yes, it is about doing my best to put these things to the best possible use. Defining what that means exactly is half the battle, but it is one that I am winning. As for the advice about women, yes, I have noticed that more and more in recent years as well haha. It's great to have some confirmation that I'm not just dreaming that one up for myself! 
Thanks again,
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 872
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |
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Hello Robyn, I am posting this here since it might interest others. But I have a question for you in regards to some conversations we had on the topic of whether the material consciousness is coarse material matter, fine material matter, or a combination of the two (not to confuse fine material matter with spiritual matter). You and I agreed that obviously the material consciousness is exactly that, material. However I recall that we might have disagreed possibly on whether the material consciousness was energetic only (though material) or coarse matter based (being a direct product of the brain)or maybe a combination of the two.
In any case, I found something of interest that you may not have already read and I wanted to pass it along. In contact 261 I believe in the first 12 or so lines spoken by BEAM and Ptaah each, the topic of beheading as an execution was discussed with an interesting fact mentioned by Ptaah: The brain activity can be completely stopped (not just not detectable) and the material consciousness may remain active for up to 20 minutes more. To me, this implies that the material consciousness, though a result of or connected factor to the brain, is not a direct result of the brain unless of course it is and can somehow continue its existence independently based on its own stored energy or similar.
I was wondering if you in your reading of the spirit teachings had run across anything to clarify this particular topic?
Either way I thought you and others might find the reference interesting to investigate possibly :-)
Thomas
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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