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Author Message Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 09:32 pm:        Salome Corey, These were my own thoughts. But I completely agree with Billy: Only truth leads to love and wisdom out of which peace and freedom grow. As there is no truth there is no peace and there cannot be a lasting freedom on our planet. It is a shame that not virtue but individual / national greed rule our world and that the honest people are suppressed / have no representation. Salome, Bill Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 383 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 03:40 am:        Without Truth There Is No Peace Each individual creation originates from a loving impulse, which is a miniature of the loving impulse that created our universe. This constant “oneness” between the macro and microcosm, between Creation and all universal life forms, it is so different to the aspect of “superiority” that is instilled in the followers of religions from a very young age on (when baptized as babies). The belief that their god / religion is “superior”, this mental prison follows them as “premature cognitive conditioning” throughout their life. Not many believers are able to “break free” from this delusion of the masses. (The word “religion” is derived from Latin “religare” = "to bind firmly"). Those that do, may be ridiculed or even risk their life *) Thus religions (have and) do obstruct(ed) humanity to honestly search for truth. Creation is based on truth. It does not want to imprison our mind. On the contrary – from young age on it wants us to observe, question, search, discuss and test the associations, attitudes and views that form in our mind. It wants us to choose, test and appraise, wants us to honestly agree with what we accept. Wants us to draw conclusions and gain an understanding of the laws of Creation. Thus Spirit Teachings encourage the human to seek for truth - it is the very opposite to accepting the “will of an imaginary god”. Creation is not based on superiority. It is based on the principle of oneness: Creation is willing to share all the knowledge, wisdom and love it has. As soon as our Spirit Form received the evolutive values through our learning, our “swinging wave” is “attuned” and a new stage opens up to learn other “evolutive values”: The more our life energy “swings” in harmony with the universal rhythm, the more we are able to perceive and tap in the wisdom, love and harmony of the universal creative forces. “Superiority” was (and is) a false, misleading and destructive ideology. It sanctioned many violent killings in the past. ***) It separates humans. It does not fit in the widely accepted concept of a democratic society. And most humans today would condemn the belief in “religious superiority” that “sanctions” religious terrorism. So one would think that mankind rejects elitism/superiority as the Atlanteans once rejected Arus’ scientists. Yet our world leaders defend - “full on” - national, economical and religious “superiority”. And are they surprised that they cannot find peace and unity! Salome, Bill *) After losing the war with Sparta the Athenians looked for someone to blame. Socrates taught young people to question Athenian traditions esp. the belief in their old gods. They condemned him to death. **) We mentioned Galileo who discovered that the Earth moves around the sun. His works were submitted to the Roman Inquisition who ruled his works were trying to re-interpret the bible (which followed the Aristotelian geocentric view). His findings were found to be “vehemently suspect of heresy” and he was placed under house arrest for the rest of his life. We mentioned as well many instances of religiously motivated destruction of knowledge (e.g. Library of Alexandria, the Mayan scripts, Gnostic writings) etc. etc. ***) Some Samples re. “Religious Superiority” The Christian Crusades/Inquisition/Religious Wars following Luther’s denial of the pope/“Conversion” of South Americans etc The Aztecs (“Mexica” Empire) repaid their “debts to the gods” with human sacrifices http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp264-ss13/2013/04/25/aztec-human-sacrifice/ The Phoenicians “sacrificed” children to “appease their gods (Chronos) in times of catastrophes”. http://www.browndailyherald.com/2014/02/12/analysis-sheds-light-ancient-phoenician-child-sacrifice-mystery/ Indian devotees threw themselves willingly under a chariot carrying the heavy image of a deity ( Jagannatha = “World Lord” - “Juggernaut”) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut See as well http://www.skeptically.org/hhor/id4.html The religious thought of superiority often influenced as well the realm of political power. Many emperors claimed their mandate to be divine (e.g. Roman/Holy Roman/Japanese/Chinese Emperor, Inca kings etc. etc.) Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1200 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2016 - 10:50 pm:        Please see: http://theyflyblog.com/2016/08/18/billy-meier-on-americas-coming-civil-wars/ ...and share. Msmichelle Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 05:30 pm:        After reading contact notes 646 it is even more of a confirmation to me , in the initial beginning forces were setup to doom the Obama Administration which leads to my conclusion or my opinion, due of our massive overpopulation, those with good intentions do not stand a chance because with the amount of people on this planet. We can all be easily influenced and easily manipulated. The religious delusional are in the billions therefore it's more of an urgency to individually work on your consciousness and to do everything within your power to align yourself with the Creational Laws and Recommendations because any president especially any future president of this country is doomed to failure as long as we are massively overpopulated as we are.... sadly this planet will have to suffer major catastrophes and destruction in order to hopefully wake up the masses of people. MsMichelle Corey Member Post Number: 1258 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 09:09 pm:        MsMichelle, You bring up some good points about contact 646, the dark forces behind the scenes, manipulated Obama so he could no longer deliver the change of the USA for the better, in actions, and deeds, around the world. This is obvious in the simple fact that the USA does not ally itself with Russia, and China, to defeat ISIS, instead is perpetuating a Gewalt war with Russia in all of the Western media, making an "enemy" where there should be a "friend". Contact 646 has some great, informative information about the negative change that happened with Obama, as well as, a statement(s) about Merkel, who has infested her country with ISIS sleepers, through the stream of Syrian refugees, because she secretly hates her country. How much destruction/damage/death will have to occur, and play out as a potential 4th world war, and the effects of overpopulation, before our planet is willing to observe the natural laws that govern the universe? What is it going to take, to get the US of A to sign a peace treaty with Russia, and China? What is it going to take, before countries are willing to be mature enough to discuss overpopulation openly, and very serious changes are implemented to naturally (and humanely) lower birth rates, so the birth rates can be less then death rates for some decades, or centuries, or for as long as it takes to reach the "target goal" of <529,000,000> (half a billion) human-beings? How much blood will have to be spilled of our people of Earth, before the dark forces, that make up advisers, intelligence services, militaries, etc, would consider real effective peace, by considering the Henoch-style global peace force, to maintain peace, and order for our "prone-to-Gewalt" planet? How many of our people of Earth will have to suffer, and perish a miserable death, before the Earth can turn away from the "un-natural" causes (religion/war/enslavement/Gewalt/crime/disease/terrorism/overpopulation/overexploitation) that will release negative effects for as long as the causes are initiated, and turn to the "natural" (love/peace/inner-outer freedom/harmony/living in a oneness with the laws, and recommendations of Creation) causes, that will allow effects that nurture proper human-development for our planet's future, thus enabling proper human-evolutionary development, instead of stagnation, or even worse: devolution? If it is going to take real, "first-hand" collective learning experiences for the our planet's people, to suffer, suffer, and suffer, before some few intelligent and rational people start connecting-the-dots, and be able to "break-through" the closed mind-set of our people, and begin initiating the proper positive developmental changes as a direct result of said collective learning experiences. These "ideological renegades" will hopefully go down as heroes in the historical annals of our people. NASA takes serious flak, for publishing so many facts about the negative effects of global warming, a lot of flak from "climate-deniers", and people who want to bury their head in the sand, and live in yesterday, in an era when there were no "known" effects from dangerous fossil-fuel use, and coal, etc. Maybe in 30 - 50 years time, tomorrow's NASA will be calling for population reductions, as a direct result of the experienced first-hand collective learning experiences of overpopulation. Everyone is connected, and all over the planet, people are slowly breaking the chains of religion as best they can, or at least, trying to break away from the restrictive "religious-mindset" that does so much damage to our planet's people, and the planet itself. People try to give up religion, and do not know where to turn, so they run to another belief because that is all they know. The people of this planet need to be directly educated on the laws, and recommendations of the Creation. People of the masses are trying to be as real as they can, with no where, and nobody to turn to, so they do what they enjoy, (I.E.: having sexual intercourse), which as a direct result numerous offspring are procreated, which is a direct result of media programming, that life is about falling in love, and bearing children, not that life is about the duty to protect your people, and protect your planet, by rationally limiting the number of your offspring. Overpopulation "soap-operas" are mainly aired in 3rd world countries, and we in the West never see them. It is the fault of all the world governments, scientists, and those who are in positions of power, for not releasing publicly the dangerous repercussions of overpopulation, it will probably take direct assaults of numerous, disastrous, proportions, such as the recent earthquake in Italy, or the growing religious fanaticism that is ISIS, for logical people in the masses to wake up, and demand better, that is to sadly say, if we do not all perish first in a nuclear war. Gewalt movies are also to blame, for Earthling indifference to governmental perpetuation of promoting war. I recently bought "the Expanse", which is a sci-fi series set 200 years in the future, when the human race has colonized the SOL system, at first I was real excited to see some additional sci-fi, but then as I watched it more, reality set in, that this is how it will probably go for our solar-system, the wealthy, and the coorporations will run, and dominate the colonization, which will be done on the backs of the laborers, the same as it has been done in Earth history for millennia, and the same way it is done in our year of 2016. I bought the series hoping to see postive change in the future of the human race, as a direct result of collective learning experiences, all I saw was technological development, and more of the same power struggles that dominate the Earth in 2016,and it is a good indication if anything the direction our planet's future colonization's of space will be headed. It is still a good show to watch, better then the crap that is on TV. All we can do, is work on our personal consciousness, taking it to new heights of development, stand with Michael Horn, as well as, hope we reincarnate in an existing future Landesgruppe, where we can once again take up the cause for proper developmental change for our planet, and our planet's people. mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 ----- Salome/Corey Müske Scott Moderator Post Number: 2635 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 10:22 pm:        I know Corey, as Billy said the small minority in the US who want true peace etc...will walk around with clenched fists in their pockets and can't do anything about what is happening... Votan Member Post Number: 554 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 11:43 pm:        Corey You have made some good points. The only way we can change is to get rid of this aggressive gene in our system. You would think that it would be a major contribution if our friends would send a impulse to fix this problem. joe Corey Member Post Number: 1259 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 10:27 pm:        Scott, Yes, that was a great interview, no? It was great seeing Billy's true feelings of the small minority, that includes myself, you, and others, receiving positive recognition from Billy that there is nothing we can do, we just have to go along with the war-mongering, and unjustifiably receive blame, as the innocent is lumped together with the guilty. mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 ----- Salome/Corey Müske Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1201 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 10:34 pm:        Maybe the people could do something more useful with their hands: The NEW Peace Movement http://theyflyblog.com/?p=4027 We must bury the sword of war and death and cultivate the Tree of Life Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 03:41 am:        I said this before , The only way we can change is to get rid of this aggressive dark forces behind the scenes. Who are they and how can we stop them ? I want names, im pretty sure that this people are not know to anybody !The Warburgs and Rothilds and Royal houses is all we hear about but i belief that they are just puppets also of this very small group We can talk all day about Obama,Trump Hillary and Nato but its all useless until we get rid of this evil group ! And dont come to me again with "" You are responsible for your own actions ! Remember that Billy said that we should kill that Russian Jewish Oligarch ,pure out of selfdefense ? Wel this aplies for this group also Msmichelle Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 03:13 pm:        Hendrikus1970. .... your post 70 comment is well taken but as long as we are massively overpopulated it is virtually impossible for any influential solution to come about....imagine having a massive classroom with 5 year olds? Corey. ...again you provide such important, reflective posts Plus I'm open to any moment for Peace MsMichelle Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1202 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 08:20 am:        No, I don't remember Meier saying that we should kill anyone. Please provide the documentation. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1203 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 08:33 am:        Let's also note that Billy and Ptaah haven't ever said that people should give up, should not exercise their self-responsibility. As we quote Ptaah in this blog: http://theyflyblog.com/2016/08/24/the-new-peace-movement/ ...he points out that we should indeed demonstrate for peace. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 407 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 08:25 am:        Excellent, heartfelt, well expressed. Thank you, Corey Salome, Bill Stardustwilly Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2015 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 05:29 am:        The question is, if these persons could be located, and then jailed, or exiled, would other individuals refill their places? Can anybody answer this question? Votan Member Post Number: 555 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 05:13 pm:        You are right Michael Horn, Billy only ever stated in self defence. Killing ISIS is self defence. joe Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 10:18 pm:        http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_248 Billy: Then to the next concern: after 17 months of negotiations, the Vatican and Israel have agreed on the modality of the mutual recognition and on the normalization of their relations, whereby the agreement received its final touch on Wednesday, the 29th of December, and diplomatic relations will likely begin in April. According to the prophecies, this is a very bad omen and points to the fact that now, a Third World War is still threatening. In addition, the idiotic Russian warmonger and extremist, Zhirinovsky, fits into this picture, according to whom the threat of a Third World War might, indeed, be brought back into the realm of possibility. Ptaah: 30. Unfortunately, that corresponds to the actual facts. 31. On the one hand, the prophecy of the Vatican-Israel alliance has become a reality, which actually speaks as a bad omen for the beginning of the Third World War, and on the other hand, the extremist Zhirinovsky really is an unusually nasty warmonger and tyrant, through whom not only a forced Third World War is to be expected, but who is actually working towards it in this respect. 32. The change to the better and to peace in an increasing form, which was brought about by Gorbachev, already suffers a strong abatement through this, which can be changed quite quickly into a disaster, if the maniac actually comes to his targeted power. 33. In this regard, it now depends on the Russian people, as well as on all responsible persons of the entire world, as to whether this warmonger will actually arrive at supreme power or whether he will be overthrown and be permanently removed from the sphere of influence. 34. He is a threat to the entire world because if he actually arrives at his targeted power, then the worst is to be feared. Billy: He is even worse than Saddam Hussein, with whom he is, indeed, supposed to be allied. If just one of these two is already a tremendous ill, then together, they are pure evil. To eliminate them permanently would, in my view, be a pure act of self-defense Ptaah: 35. That corresponds to the truth, but this responsibility rests with those who have the power to do so, and they are all responsible for it. ----------- So we can wait until a nuclear war breaks out and then if we survive this ,wait on the red meteor to finish the job ! Because if ww4 breaks out then i doubt we have any time left to work together on reversing the extermination of mankind.} Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Friday, August 26, 2016 - 02:46 am:        Stardustwilly, you have a good point there,but we have to start somewhere. I belief our polictical system is very wrong because companies can rule over our politicians and countries threw lobbies. If we want to change that,then we have to make certain things run under government control and not privatized firms. Example : Energy,Pharma,Military sector . Thats where the mayor problems occure Kenneth Member Post Number: 400 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Friday, August 26, 2016 - 12:21 pm:        Hendrikus1970, It's understood where you are coming from. The main issue is, the U.S. Government and maybe others are actually run or controlled by big business, the Military Industrial Complex and the World / Central Banks. The people (Folk) no longer have control of the Government. However, that can change through action; and as I understand, through Blogging, just as you're dong now. Sincerely Kenneth Scott Moderator Post Number: 2636 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Friday, August 26, 2016 - 03:03 pm:        Please lets get back to the Topic Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 73 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Friday, August 26, 2016 - 03:52 pm:        Dear Scott @ The mission of FIGU is what topic was right? Then you might be ab;le to explain what the mission is ? Scott Moderator Post Number: 2637 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2016 - 02:29 am:        Dear Hendrikus1970 Of course there are many aspects to the mission. This specific category which is stated in the topic heading relates to documentaries ie; a new video from Michael Horn, or perhaps someone is giving a lecture or presentation somewhere. You would be surprised after I post a reminder to people about sticking to the heading, how many more posts come through with no credence given to my statement. What would your suggestion be? Patm Member Post Number: 380 Registered: 07-2006 Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2016 - 09:17 am:        @moderators, It would be desirable if the moderators, whos partial function is to evaluate posts as they are queued, to determine the topic they belong under and move them to (I understand the forum software has this ability only for moderators) a more appropriate topic. This would be preferred instead of NOT posting a member's post simply because it is the wrong place. A moderator comment can be inserted in the post informing of the moved from-to topic. Also not I don't think the forum software has the capability to send an email notification when a moved from-to post is made... can this functionality be added? Thanks for your consideration in this matter. Salome PatM Patm, although desirable, not practical. There are multiple steps involved when moving a post, I wish it was easier, but it isn't. For the most part people posting here have some familiarization with the forum and most of the topics hopefully. The Forum has far less topic areas than a decade ago, which should make it easier to find the appropriate one. Granted some topics don't fit what a poster wishes to express, but when thats the case a close approximation will suffice. I don't think the software can be modified to send off an email to a poster to let him/her know their post has been relocated. The software is quite old by todays standards, but I think its a matter of $$ for any upgrades to occur. Scott (Message edited by scott on August 27, 2016)

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