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    Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2671 Registered: 07-2005 |
Brian foerster, Bright insight and uncharted X have done some great field research on the pyramids of Giza. Mystery history is also a great channel I view on ancient history. Praveen Mohan has done some great work focused on ancient Indian structures. There are many others of course but the photos and videos from these channels give you so much to work with in terms of the truth emanating out of the actual stone monuments that speaks for itself. It's a great material to compare with when doing my own research on the Sydney's megalithic, colossal and humongous stone faces within faces within fractal like endless faces upon more faces within more faces. Matt lee Matt lee | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1060 Registered: 04-2015 |
Newinitiation, I like watching Brian forester too. Because he does special group tours he can afford $$$ to get special access to locked sites in Egypt (and elsewhere) that most people are not allowed to visit. And it's good how he videos all of them and allows his Youtube subscribers to also see inside them for free. The many underground shafts leading to nowhere he visited/filmed are very interesting. It makes me wonder if the Plejaren filled any of them in with sand, or was it just the Bafaths lair they did? Maybe one day they will allow them all to be dug out. Mystery History (1&2) is also a good channel. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2669 Registered: 07-2005 |
I'd like to use an example to demonstrate what I mean in my above post. Let's look at this satellite image for a second. Do any of you members see a face here? Of course I thought so. You are still perplexed and dumbfounded as to how someone could see a face in what looks to be some natural looking but chaotic arrangement of stones that just looks downright 'natural'   Matt lee | ||
Matcha Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2021 |
Matt, re your post 2669: If you watch the film I mentioned earlier (the link is also on my FB page at Chris Lock) you can see one possible method excellently presented that eloquently and practically answers all the construction issues for at least one iteration of the Great Pyramid wherein no advanced or alien technology was required, or telekinesis. It also answers or reaffirms Billy's comments on the Black Land of Egypt. Not that Billy gives too much detail on that, of course. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3468 Registered: 12-1999 |
Matt, "You are still perplexed and dumbfounded as to how someone could see a face in what looks to be some natural looking but chaotic arrangement of stones that just looks downright 'natural' " I am not going to start accepting posts with images if you can't be more convincing in your search for seeing things which aren't being seen by others....We went through this a few months ago when you were seeing invisible BEAM ships in photos which were clearly stated in the Contact Reports were not at the location you wanted to see them.... Thank you | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2672 Registered: 07-2005 |
I didn't expect such a response to be coming from someone like you Scott of all people. If you yourself have never researched nor investigated what I have how do you have the gall to pass such a judgement of my supposed error from the state of your own ignorance. It's quite irritating by such fact especially coming from someone who has dealt with the Billy Meier case for a long time, a case in which 99.9997% of the world's population still find hogwash. It reminds me of this saying by Ghandi in this instance. An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does the truth become error because nobody will see it. Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth, for being correct, for being you. Never apologize for being correct, or for being years ahead of your time. If you’re right and you know it, speak your mind. Speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth. ----------------- So does what I have amply presented with accumulating evidence from hours and hours of research all of a sudden become untrue just because you or others don't see it? So by extension does Billy's contact case become untrue just because 99.997% of the world's population don't see the truth in the contacts? Where is the logic in relying on the number if that number is still ignorant as the rest of the other numbers to form your own judgement? It's quite disappointing Scott it really is. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2672 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks for the link to a great video Chris. I think this geopolymer theory is probably the best theory put forth so far that explains how the pyramids were built. There are a few details that still need to be ironed out of course. One being if these limestone and granites are formed using formwork and are cast on top of the other stones that have already been cast then you encounter a problem with fusion. These stone will not be a free standing individually separate blocks but would've essentially been glued to one another if going by the method outlined in the video. As we all know here from having done our own research on the pyramids and its constituent parts the stone blocks are free and there is ample evidence that they have been ravaged over the millenia to be used to build other structures all over egypt even up to relatively modern era. What this means is that either the ancient builders had found a way for the slurry within the formwork not to fuse with the bottom block of stones or that these stones were cast as a precast nearby and brought to the resting place after it has been solidified. This adds extra time and logistical challenges not to mention the fact that unless the formwork was impeccably accurate within a millimeter there would've existed fitting issues on top of deviations of dimension that would've ultimately created cumulative error dilemma. In regards to the giant lense theory I would love for some of these researchers who have put forth the idea of using solar power to melt limestones to demonstrate it in real life setting to see how practical this method was and whether it was even possible to begin with. The bottom picture I think represent evidence of the use of some type of geopolymer to construct the giant faces in NSW Australia. Look at the streaks this pattern repeats itself everywhere all over NSW. I have long dismissed the theory put forth out there that the indigenous native Australians did the scrapping marks.  Matt lee | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3470 Registered: 12-1999 |
Matt, If you disagree with my observations and conclusions, perhaps you need to contact christian.frehner@figu.org and let him know how "disappointed" you are with my ability to discern the truthfulness of what I stated. Thank You Scott-Moderator | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1355 Registered: 04-2013 |
For What it's worth; even in ancient earth history: Face pareidolia' – the phenomenon of seeing faces in everyday objects – is a very human condition that relates to how our brains are wired. Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one sees an object, pattern, ... | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3471 Registered: 12-1999 |
Kenneth, So it seems to be a form of delusion, or something similar? I wonder to since we are all being affected in varying degrees by the negative energies circling this planet, could this somehow enhance this effect in those people that have this type of condition? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2673 Registered: 07-2005 |
Scott with all due respect what does Christian got to do with the conversation and why are you mentioning his name over something that involves you and I and your self generated conclusions over my independently verified discoveries. I have nothing to complain to Christian about nor should Christian be a buffer for you or me for any issues that we alone should solve ourselves even if its a FIGU entity. We are all adults here who should stand or fall based on our own merit or demerit. What my issue with your conclusion is that like the pseudo skeptics of Billy who immediately shut the conversation down the minute you present verifiable evidence to them, instead of approaching it with an enquiring mind they simply dismiss it because they think there is nothing to see there. So who is in the right here their conclusion because they can't see anything in it or Billy's evidence because its too sophisticated for the skeptics mind to make sense of which btw is way beyond their ignorance and the fact that they simply can't be bothered putting the effort to transcend their stuck opinions. I hope I am not being too harsh on you Scott but I've felt your conclusions to be stifling potential progress. I do get it You are just trying to do your job and uphold the rules and statutes issued by the headquarters. If my memory serves me correct I don't think I've ever complained to you not once in all the years that I have participated on this forum as to why some of my post haven't been posted or why you did your job the way you did although I stand corrected if this isn't the case but just this once your conclusions have irked me because the evidence you asked me was accompanied in my immediate follow up post even before you posted a response to me yet you censored that too yet you still ask me for more convincing evidence. Now the importance of these ancient discoveries can only be felt when sufficient time has passed and the value add it could possibly have towards the Billy Meier case which I sense I am alone on this at present. This is the reason why I have a dog in the fight in this and above all emphasised this forum as the repository of the evidence and proof material above other platforms out there for future reference. Like some of Billy's evidence and proof material because it is ancient material that through eons of time have been eroded by nature to such an extent that to the uninitiated its difficult to make out, the proof and evidence of these ancient structures cannot be as clear cut as people would like it to. Either way and whatever the case maybe the important thing is that if it is true it should be shared just like Billy's materials because these discoveries do tie in with Billy's. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2674 Registered: 07-2005 |
I did factor in this element many times Kenneth when researching these megalithic sites around various national parks in Sydney. A fellow forum member brought this up before I had initially used this as a rationale to dismiss these anomalous features as some quirk of my imagination but I do recall that I wasn't the initial person who had discovered that 'something' but it was someone else who posted a video of a structure they had found which by extension got me to investigate these sites which ultimately led to me discovering these artificial facial structures. If it wasn't for the fact that these megalithic stones were stacked on top of one another in neat and congruent formations with some block of stones being totally different type of stones to the one underneath it in addition to it being strategically placed in various places all around so that when viewed from the sky they formed a coherent feature, then I would've looked no further and abandoned this pursuit. Matt lee | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3476 Registered: 12-1999 |
Matt, Thank you for your comments, if you care to discuss this further, you know how to reach me. Scott | ||
Matcha Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2021 |
Scott, I support your position regarding Matt's picture postings. As you say, we've been through all this before. Regarding your post 3471 "delusion" comment, I agree again but would add that IMO this is an issue that we all have to bear or contend with due to the abusive manipulation and programming everyone on the earth has been subject to at the hands of religions and belief systems for literally tens of thousands of years if not much longer; and it seems to me that it must have entered into the deepest levels of our psychological architecture. It seems to me that one thing this programming has done is entrain us to automatically make quick conclusions based solely on speculative feelings, impressions, ideas, theories or assertions and to then believe them. In many respects, this is the trump card of religions: Get people to believe without proof and then you have them for good. It is, perhaps, why people keep falling for this process again and again in revamped neo forms. IMO if these types of picture-postings with their religious-like fervour are not dropped then the forum could quickly devolve into a poster board for everyone's pet ideas, speculations, and theories claiming to be fact and knowledge when no proof or empirical knowledge is evidenced at all. By all means, these things can and perhaps should be looked into but that is private investigation until real evidence that stands up to high levels of critique appear. We know from the detailed babblings of Von Daniken how errant these speculations can be, although at least even he did not usually claim what he was presenting "knowledge" just asking questions and presenting, albeit forcefully, his ideas as possibilities or probabilities; and we know from Billy and the Plejaren that those ideas are almost all completely incorrect. So much for speculative appeals. We all probably have been through this, where we convince ourselves that something is so when in fact there is nothing ever to be convinced of. We do not need convincing. No one needs convincing of anything. There are only facts to scientifically discover and things to learn; together with discovering the true nature of ourselves and learning how to best live and express ourselves throughout our entire lives. It is all those aeons of programming that entrained us to convince ourselves of things that do not need convincing because convincing oneself knows something merely produces a know-it-all who cannot see beyond their assumed "knowledge." Matt, Regarding your dream, if I might comment: Jung said that the building is usually our self and or self-image in dreams, and rooms or places within it different aspects of the self. In view of this discussion, you might consider whether this relates to your dream. Just a thought. I had a vivid one of these once in which I saw a building facade fall into pieces in front of me and the next day I lost face at work. I have also found that volcanos can represent or signify any explosive or uncontrollable situation that suddenly erupts, geological, mental, personal or even physical in health matters. Again, I noticed myself this once quite unmistakably. Anyway, those are just a few thoughts I share with you in case they might help. Regarding your comments on the K 2019 film: Here, I appreciate very much your comments and can only agree with and thank you. Those are very pertinent and important points you bring up regarding the boulders, formwork and building process. I should have known better having studied architecture myself! So thanks again, because yes, that team should have made a lens and demonstrated using it to actually make a few boulders and a minimal formwork construction to show exactly how the rocks would come together, moulded together or resting snuggly together. They did show how the mixing process does work, but the brickmaking with the lens needs demonstrating, doesn't it? Because what if, for some reason, it just cannot be done? Might I suggest that you apply such excellent critical questioning to your own photo-geo research for want of a better term? Thanks, again. Great questions and points. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3478 Registered: 12-1999 |
Thank you Chris, Yes, one way or the other we are subject to the negative thought force energy of the religions...it will take some time to untangle ourselves from it. I found a quote in the Nokodemion Book which was very inspirational: "Truth is the Certainty of Reality" .... | ||
Matcha Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2021 |
Scott, "Truth is the Certainty of Reality" is a very profound statement -- of truth. It is completely different from "The certainty of reality is the truth" which is what would probably first come forward in most minds. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 895 Registered: 07-2006 |
Our forum's rules of etiquette are in place for a reason. See: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=instructions#rules This is forum is based on FIGU information and is intended for those students of the Creation-energy teaching with the desire to developmentally change themselves to a more thought-feeling-psych-consciousness-based human being based on the creational-natural laws and recommendations. In the past there have been those that choose to use (abuse) this platform (of FIGU-based information) to justify their self-centered belief system(s), be it based on their religious (sects/new age groups), political, scientific, etc., personal accumulated life experiences. There are plenty of places on the internet for them to indulge themselves in these belief systems with those like minded individuals also wishing to share their like-minded experiences. This is not a forum for those individuals. This is a forum for those like minded individuals interested in studying the FIGU material to developmentally change themselves to a more though-feeling-psych-consciousness-based human being based on the creational-natural laws and recommendations. Billy, the Plejaren and the FIGU community itself focuses our efforts in assisting every individual in achieving this culmination point for themselves. Yet, there are those that continue to try to force-feed their, at times, personal "infallible" understanding of a subject (religious, political, scientific, personal, etc) based on their past sources of, at times, fallible information. Again this is a forum dedicated to FIGU information provided by Billy, the Plejaren and the FIGU community itself with the above stated intent. This forum is also a place to corroborate the FIGU information with other sources, not a place to corroborate personal self-assumed (religious, political, scientific) beliefs by attempting to use the FIGU information to justify them. As an example, those that have studied Edgar Cayce attempt to justify Edgar Cayce's information with the FIGU information rather that corroborating the FIGU information with the Edgar Cayce information they have to share. Regarding the members of this forum, such as myself, I am more interested in how the FIGU information is corroborated (justified) by other sources, not the other way around and the moderators of this forum do an great job of making sure THIS forum is a platform for the sharing of FIGU-based information to occur and prevent those, with their "self-assumed" understanding of things, from attempting to inflict their belief/understanding on this group. If your information is not based on the FIGU information then it doesn't belong here, such as personally perceived "faces in stone". Note the title of this thread " Ancient Earth History in connection with information given by the Plejaren", this thread is not intended to be for those shared posts that have no connection at all with Plejaren (FIGU-based) information, but rather are solely based on personal perceptions and theories. Create your own forum elsewhere for those interested in your personal perceptions (religious, political, scientific, new-age, etc). Keep up the great job moderators! Patrick McKnight | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 355 Registered: 03-2007 |
Patrick, Very well said and stated. Thank you. | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 358 Registered: 03-2007 |
The Skrill, can be clearly seen in a few of the Stew Peters interviews, when they are under the microscope. | ||
Christian Moderator Post Number: 241 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Patrick Yes, very well said indeed. Thank you! --- And a special "thank you" goes to Scott who actually is "THE MODERATOR" and is doing an excellent "job". Christian | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2675 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thank you very much everyone for your wise words of wisdom that through such sentiments expressed, that which is Creational spiritual is amply visible along with the intended lessons that it teaches. I am perplexed as to what came over me to lose control over the sense of the good natured self and after taking some time for a deep self reflection, such a thing as post and pictures not being posted on any given day wouldn't have even registered as anything that is even remotely worth being upset about as my past record indicates over many years but on that occasion it apparently did. During the FLAU meeting I did raise the issue with the members that after having gone through with the ordeal of the coronavirus infection I've noticed that I have become more aggressive as if the infection somehow heightened those characteristics that were already there. I don't know which part of the brain the coronavirus destroys but I feel something is not quite right. My memory has gone worse, I am quick to a temper, I've become very forgetful, I am losing things even from my own pocket, retaining information and processing it has become harder, speech is also effected, more episode of blank stare happens where I'd completely forget what I was intending to do moments ago especially at work, forming the right words and sentences has been adversely effected, recalling information is dismal, thinking has become difficult and fleeting, tapping into the higher reasoning and attaining the spiritual state of consciousness is becoming arduous and the ability to concentrate and focus has become even more of a challenge to do. I think it effects people differently depending on the individual but whatever the case maybe the full responsibility for my own thoughts and feelings and actions lie solely with me so there is no excuse although now I feel that there is more of a challenge to overcome. I would like to sincerely apologise to you Scott for my uncharacteristic outburst that most likely boiled over from something that may have been totally unrelated to your actions or its meaning behind them. As justified as it felt at the time that it happened in that low state of consciousness I can now see the errors of my mischaracterisation of your decision so I am sorry for that. I wonder also if the nanobots/nano particles/nano particulates in the coronavirus vaccines have had anything to do with it. Anyway thanks dear members and you Scott for another great lesson in this wonderful stage of the Creational energetic platform. BTW if you can allow me this one last indulgence I would like to point to something that maybe worth pointing out for people to at least consider. image deleted image deleted Matt, I appreciate your words, looking at the images you wanted to post, I didn't find any reason for you posting them in the sense that you didn't say anything about them and why you wanted to draw attention to them....If you can present more compelling reasons of proof of something of course I will be open to your ideas as it relates to the topic heading. Additionally, I imagine the FIGU Servers are probably limited in their capacity and images do take up more server space, which is something to consider as well. I hope you feel better soon. Regards Scott (Message edited by scott on October 12, 2021) | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1061 Registered: 04-2015 |
I just finished watching that Youtube doco - The Movie Great Pyramid K 2019 and thought they put a convincing argument for using concrete in all those rocks of the pyramids. A couple of things didn't add up though. Another was the date of the construction. Has the Meier material ever mentioned the use of concrete in the building of the pyramids? Newinitiation, Sad to hear you got those nasty effects leftover from the virus! | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 723 Registered: 04-2011 |
Gday Hugo i watched that vid a while ago and reckon that some things are concrete, especially statues (or molten rock poured in a mold) and maybe the outer casing of pyramids was concrete (((our mates do mention the slaves/workers quarrying the stone))) but that could be most of the rough blocks, the large vases made of hard rock could be molten rock too, just speculation though... Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. |
