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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 528
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2022 - 02:21 am: | 
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Bob
Thanks for clarifying that. The Plejarens' way of life certainly sounds idyllic. |
Scott
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Post Number: 3722
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 02:20 pm: |
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Hello,
Interesting info on how the Plejaren deal with criminals |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1521
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2023 - 08:05 am: |
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Greeting’s all,
A short question for anyone. In Billy’s book, “From the Depths of Outer Space… Contacts with the Pleidians/Plejaren”, page 380, the Plejaren state that the age of our universe is 46.5 million-million years old.
Then on page 382 the Plejaren state that the oldest matter found in the universe by the Plejaren is 38 thousand-million years old.
Is not 46.5 million-million years older than 38 thousand-million years?
Kind regards
Kenneth |
Scott
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Post Number: 3729
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2023 - 11:51 am: |
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Hello Kenneth,
I could be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that the "matter" Belt within this Creation renews itself, which would account for matter being "younger" than the overall age of this Creation. If someone else has a more detailed description, your information is welcome.
Regards
Scott |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 256
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2023 - 12:26 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Everything in the material belt is subject to the law of coming, passing and renewing.
Tien
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2023 - 04:49 am: |
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Kenneth: "...the Plejaren state that the age of our universe is 46.5 million-million years old.
Then on page 382 the Plejaren state that the oldest matter found in the universe by the Plejaren is 38 thousand-million years old.
Hi Kenneth
In the birth of our universe, matter was not created right away. A new universe is not created by its own power, but either by the Absolute-Absolutum or by a primordial universe (or primordial creation), whereby in any case every single process of the becoming of a universe, resp. a creation, is by a primordial compression-explosion or 'Big Bang'. This is initiated by an impulse that results from logical spiritual-energetic-physical processes in Creation. -page 424, Diversikum
So it begins in a purely spirit-energetic nature. After the Big Bang there is a time lapse before the galaxies, hypergalaxies, stars, planets, moons, nebulae, comets, meteors and asteroids are formed in the fourth universe belt - the visible universe.
Bob |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2023 - 05:16 am: |
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Hi Kenneth
To add to my previous post, you can find additional information in Billy's book, Existing Life in the Universe where he explains after the Big Bang there is a big time lapse before that energy slows down enough to form elements and attract to form gases preceding the beginning of the smallest material or gossamer cosmic dust.
Bob |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 222
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2023 - 07:16 am: |
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Hi Kenneth
I failed to mention that it is also true, as Scott and Tien mentioned, that the creation universe renews itself over the course of 155.5 trillion years seamlessly over the period of 49 (7x7) billion years, over and over again until the time of the contraction of the universe, after which the Matter belt along with the other six, the pure spiritual-energy belts, contract and dissolve, into a slumber or period of rest, and then begins another of six more periods. -page 424, Diversikum
The human body has a similar process where every cell in the body gets replaced every 7 years continuously until its' death. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1522
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 - 08:32 pm: |
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Scott, Tien, Bob,
Thank you very much for the response. I read that information a while ago, but failed to connect the dots, now I understand. Your clarification helped very much.
Salome
Kenneth |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1529
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2023 - 08:31 am: |
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Scott, Bob, Tien,
Regarding my earlier question in Post Number: 1521, “…the Plejaren state that the age of our universe…” and your correct responses. Re-located the information in Contact Report 435 which also helps to clarify this…
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Billy:
Yet a question: you told me that you possess a piece of material that is 38 billion (38,000,000,000) years old. But our astrophysicists always speak of our material universe being only 13.7 billion (13,700,000,000) years old. How does that make sense?
Ptaah:
67. The entire universe is around 46 trillion (46,000,000,000,000) years old, while the material belt – that is to say, that part of the universe which terrestrial scientists call the universe – is much younger, as a consequence of the constant renewal of the visible material belt, which is surrounded – inwardly towards the centre and outwardly towards the outermost belt – by six further belts which constantly expand, that is to say, stretch, as do the galaxies.[1]
68. In the same way, the material belt of the universe – that is to say, the visible, material part of the universe which Earth-humans wrongly call the universe – expands, that is to say, stretches, constantly, whereby this, however, also changes and renews itself again and again, which occurs approximately every 49 billion (49,000,000,000) years, as our newest research, which has only recently been concluded, demonstrates.
69. One such change took place around 17 billion (17,000,000,000) years ago, whereby the beginning of the change occurred, without a transitional period, in the two belts – the inner and outer – which directly enclose the material belt.
70. In the inner and outer transition zones, in which the change occurs, there exists as yet no solid matter, because this first begins materially to solidify into coarse matter in the actual material part of the material belt, the actual beginning of which – seen from the Milky Way, that is to say, the Earth – is about 15 billion (15,000,000,000) light-years distant.
71. That means that the transition zones of the adjacent inner and outer belts take up the greatest distance, and that it is also from there that the so-called background radiation originates.
72. What is interesting about that is also that the material belt indeed expands outwardly and ages. However, inwardly, it becomes younger up to the point in time of its renewal, which means that, therefore, the greater age of the material belt is measured at the outside, while its interior proves to be younger.
73. Therefore, a constant coming about is under way in the inside of the material belt, while, in the regions of the belt which stretch outwardly, there is a passing away.
74. Once the high point of the development of the material belt is achieved, then a renewed passing away and change begins, out of which a new material belt – or, seen in the terrestrial sense, a new material universe – emerges.
75. And concerning the material which is 38,000,000,000 years old: we found this tiny particle in the transition zone, and, indeed, in the region near the material belt.
Billy:
If I am right, then that means that our material belt – that is to say, our visible, material part of the universe – will persist for 32,000,000,000 more years, before a transformation occurs again. And how must one imagine this transformation?
Ptaah:
76. The entirety of the coarse-matter material, of every kind, renews itself. Consequently, therefore, new galaxies, stars and planets, and so forth, come into existence.
77. With this transformation, which takes place within about 2,000,000,000 years, certain residues remain, which are deposited both in the transition zones, and in the material belt, as dark energy and as particle-like dark matter, which can, with special technologies, be captured and measured.
78. This dark matter is, therefore, very much older than the actual coarse matter material of the visible material belt – that is to say, than the visible part of the universe – which is mistakenly referred to as the universe by the Earth-humans, although this material belt constitutes only one part out of the seven parts which make up the actual universe.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_435
Salome
Kenneth |
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