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Thomas
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Post Number: 364
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott. According to the earlier contact notes, Semjase said they still suffer from colds and similar but have the technology to reduce the symptoms and shorten the duration as I recall. But as of this moment, I don't know if they have a cure for the cold.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1301
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Thomas, Aditya,

This information came from contact 411, 28 January, 2006 between a conversation between Ptaah and Billy. According to what I understand, most of their injuries are cured through their medical sciences and practices, it does not state whether this is mental or technological. Because of the short time, for instance healing bones, the stay in a hospital is not required. This was demonstrated to Billy when he injured his ribs many years ago, from what I remember. If something requires additional time to heal, they have medical specialists which aid in the persons recovery at their home.

Regards
Scott
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Thomas
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Post Number: 365
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed Scott but this does not mean that they have cured every type of illness and injury without limit. I have read the same contact info that you mentioned but all the same, Semjase did say that they still suffer from the cold... I am just passing on the info I read, nothing more. Have a great day :-)
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adityasonakia,

A similar version of your last question was asked of Billy on Dec 03, 2004 and can be found in the archives. Here is a condensed edited version:

"My question, Billy, is concerning the future of health care on Earth and what will eventually win out. Will there be an integration of the two (natural vs traditional medicine & pharmaceuticals), or will one dominate and crowd out the other? And would you tell us something about the health care that exists on the planet Erra and what is really best for us on Earth."

Answer
"In the future there will be a combination of the two. Both 'ways' have their benefit. A combination of natural cures and school medicine and pharmaceutical industry is sensible. There is no other way on the way of progress.
Both Ptaah and Quetzal are educated in natural and school medicine."

Regards
Bob
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Edward
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Post Number: 888
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Thomas....

Of course, we CAN - Pollute - our Spirit-Consciousness!

I think you have not yet come across what I have posted, yet; which is as
result you can not understand it. Perhaps one day, you can/will comprehend
it's meaning.

What I mentioned DID come from Billy's materials!

You should look-up what Causes Cancer, also; which is (also) Religious
Related, and thus One - Pollutes - Oneself....and this has the mentioned
Effects!

Hint:

This topic was already once discussed; and which is the reason, that for
example the JEWS...have a very very Malice type of Cancer within their people.
It was all traced back to their Israel/Hebrew False Religion, and what not!
And thus, went on..further to their future offspring, to come....


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 889
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott and Thomas....

Thomas:

An excerpt from - And Yet...They Fly -, from Guido's excellent book.

Conversation of Semjase and Billy:

As for what you (Billy) refer to as cancer, which is manifested because of a
leech-like, falsely guided life, we were fortunate enough to ban this disease
quite some time ago.


And what came out of our previous discussion in the past, was the even a
FALSE (Cult-)Religion can play part here.

Thus, if One lives a Leech-like, False guided Life...INCLUDING a FALSE GUIDED
(Cult-)Religion type, the mentioned (cancer) would occur!

False (Cult-)Religion is also defined as a: leech-like, falsely guided
life(form)!

ONE IS INDEED - POLLUTING - ONESELF!!!!!


Scott: you are correct!

Here is an excerpt from the same book:

Semjase - ....Our scientists conquered many diseases centuries ago,....<snip>.
However, they no longer exist in a fatal or physically destructive form. They
are afflictions of a less harmful nature as colds, which can develop into
pneumonia or other similar afflictions that we ordinary can constrain very
quickly before they degenerate any further. This holds true for other
afflictions.<snip> Consequently, we are also susceptible to certain diseases
but are as a rule, quite capable of controlling and healing them.


Edward.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 367
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will not argue with you Edward. I am just passing the info along that I read directly from BEAM's books. He said that in every way it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to harm the spirit or spiritual consciousness forms. The worst we can do is to cause them to stagnate. Either BEAM is wrong or you are. It cannot be both ways.
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Thomas, Scott and Phi-Spiral,

Yes Scott you are right, i did hear about the incident when Billy fell from his Moped and cracked his ribs.

But Semjase then in the next contact healed it instantly, yes so they do use technology.
but they use it at home, so as to say they have no hospitals.

Thanks a lot you all.

Salome
Aditya
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Hector
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Post Number: 319
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A bad, inadequate lifestyle, or living without respecting creational laws at all may trigger all kind of mind-related diseases, cancer as well.

One should divide lifestyles in two categories, those which favor evolution and progress, and those which hinder, block evolution.

We all know Creation does not reward those creatures who stagnate or hinder evolution.Creation rewards all those striving for more wisdom, knowledge and creational love.Those who seek actively to gain access to the next level.

All those who develop cancer, they are told that they must fight corageously against the monster.If they do not fight, they are sentenced to death.So cancer has (in my opinion) a certain purpose, it is to try to awake the consciousness of the ill person, so he can embrace evolution again with very powerful tools, hard work, fight, motivation, positivism, insight, meditation, respect......

For me it is obvious that illnesses, disease, pain and suffering exist in order to remind us humans that we cannot/should not stagnate.So it would be a big mistake if the plejaren would try to eliminate all diseases characteristic of their world.I think they have only erradicated life-threatening illnesses.

Our ancestors of Sirius made a serious (pun not intended) mistake, they erradicated aggresiveness from their lives.The human being should not erradicate suffering and pain from his daily life, living pleasant, monotonous, effortless lives.
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Hector,

I don't know what to think when you stated "The human being should not eradicate suffering and pain from his daily life, living pleasant, monotonous, effortless lives."

When one is suffering, from my experience and observations, we usually attempt to alleviate suffering and attempt to avoid it if possible. For instance, last year Billy fell on his back and was unable to sleep in a bed for 3 days. During that time he was given a pain medication from his doctor to lessen the pain. Now if pain is good for us, why then would he take the pain medication? From my experience, when I am in pain, it is all I can do sometime to find a way to alleviate it in some fashion. I don't know if it teaches us anything or not. Yes we can then sympathize/empathize with those who are suffering, but again our tendency is to reduce the pain and suffering to at least a manageable level. Yes, I know what you are saying about living a dull and boring life so to speak, but is suffering the way to prevent us from being stagnant?

Regards
Scott
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Hector
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Post Number: 320
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have said it....you try to alleviate in some fashion....pain is mobilizing forces, your will, your consciousness, so you stay awake, so you try to overcome pain.It does mobilize the best part in you, to try to solve that unpleasant situation (feeling pain).

Pain and suffering are, in my opinion, not negative values if they are not let into degeneration.There are people who LIKE pain, massochists, but that is a degeneration.

What i stated above are a few personal insights, to make me and the forum think, but do not take it as dogma.

Regards,
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thomas....


I will not argue with you either!!

WHO IS TALKING ABOUT - HARM -!

I was merely stating that One can - POLLUTE - the Spirit Consciousness
(including the body)!

Not in the sense of Harming it, BUT: STAGNATING IT, from function as it should
as a Natural Mechanism, in alinement with the human body(Duality)!

If you THINK/SEE further than what I write...you can perhaps understand what
I mean. But I think you are just TOO HOOK-UP on your own so-called reading,
that conflicts with me(or whom ever:Scott), and thus Shove your own ideas
down our throats, so that...you are/become Confused yourself!

Use the Search engine; we discussed this in the past.

I think myself, you have not been there yet, and thus are Ignorant to the
Facts, as how I mean them...to be. I will not explain the rest. It is too long
of a scenario. You will have to come across it, one day, your self???

DO YOUR HOMEWORK - THOROUGH - before you post something!!!

YOU 'jump the conclusions' before you have even understood what is being
talked about! DO NOT BE SO GULL ABLE!

I rest this case...:-)

Pleasant searching....


Edward.
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Vestri
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"All those who develop cancer, they are told that they must fight corageously against the monster..."


That can also work both ways - for the worse. One can be progressing the cancer just by constantly thinking (stressing) about it. And of all those that develop cancer and who then decide to go on a holiday to enjoy and make the most of what life they have left, some come back to discover that they are fully cured of their cancerous disease. Many say that it is because these people were enjoying life and had their mind's off from constantly entertaining the idea they had cancer is why they got better. I actually know someone who this happened too.

So disease can come from the mind(set).
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Sirashwin
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings to all

Could someone please clarify that is Tuberculosis created by the mind as stated in the old edition of "Die Psyche"? Or does the new edition not have tuberculosis listed as a disease caused by the mind?

Salome
ashwin

PS - i there only one edition of "Die Psyche" ??
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ashwin,

This is what Scott told me,

"According to the book "The Psyche" there are numerous ailments which can be derived from the mind, which have their basis in negative or a degenerative form of thinking.

Some of them are as follows: (unofficial translation)

Assorted Heart Disease's
Nervous breakdown
Neuritis
Gout
Certain Brain Disease's
Anemia-Chlorosis
Intestinal disease's
Cramps
Stomach disorders
Sleeplessness
Tuberculosis
Pains of all sorts
Spasms of the organs
Vegetarian complaints
Depressions
Fear and profuse perspiration
Aggression
Anxieties and phobias of all sorts
..

As you can see, these don't all fall into the category of diseases, but they could possibly lead to certain disorders or conditions."

So yes, it is created by the mind. Or also, it may be creates due to some other factor.

like, when a person is stressed and anxious, he may get sick. so, indirectly it is caused by the mind.

Salome
Aditya
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Cpl
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Post Number: 308
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The operative word there would seem to be "can be derived from the mind..."
best,
cpl
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Edward
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Post Number: 892
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All...


Sexuality and Cancer


Researchers have proven that there is a link between our sexual behavior and
certain types of cancer.

What is the case:

A couple or, two couples having sexual intercourse, have the least
susceptibility, or practically non, of being contaminated by the Cancer Virus!

Whereas, a couple or couples...that have multiple sexual intercourse with many
different types of individuals(known today as: Swingers) are in great danger of
being susceptible to a divers of cancer types, which are: Throat cancer, which
can spread to the Gums, and spread to the Lungs, and further to the
Intestines, and further to other internal origins within the human body.

The above mentioned cancer diagnosis' are mainly generated via 'Oral' sex
actions...has to be noted.

What is also linked to the mentioned is a divers types of Vaginal cancers: Egg
stems, and even inner tissues, within the Vagina. Like-wise is even(for the
Male), Prostate cancer and other Penal cancers like Testicle cancer; which can
even have effect on the Bladder.

If One has a history of any types of cancer within the family, than One must
indeed take heed to the above mentioned! The Cancer can be at a stage of
'Slumber' and it should stay this way as long as it can! And to keep it in
such Slumber: a Proper Healthy and Positive Way Of Life(also as Billy
recommends us all to do!), is recommended![Good example, was the Corporate
Manager(; age +/- 65 plus) I mentioned in one of my previous posting: he too,
had cancer in his DNA string! Till now he is out-living it, and is still
Dormant: May he still...live a longer life!]


Young girls can acquire an inoculation against Vaginal cancer before the age
of 9-13 years of age, which is - HPV vaccine; Gardasil -. The inoculation has
to take place BEFORE any sexual intercourse, whatsoever! It is proven that
from the number of cancer types, this inoculation...inhibits at least more
than the half, or even more; if not, all. And thus, will Reduce the Cancer
Virus(and other related viruses) from spreading and generating itself to greater proportions.

Thus, parents: if you Love your daughter(s) dearly; Take Heed to the above
mentioned! At this stage: It IS YOUR responsibility!


REMEMBER: when One obtains Cancer, it is defined as an - Inheritable -
disease/aliment! And thus, One will project it further into One's offspring
lineage[DNA!]!


The above mentioned is not to frighten you people out there, but to make you
Conscious of the Effects...when One lives a - Leech-like, Falsely Guided Life
-, as Semjase once stated. A True (demi) Jschrjsch[ish-rish] she indeed is!
[May her health restore itself to it's Optimum!]

Remember to enjoy Sexuality, and not to direct Oneself...to Sexual Perversity.

As long as One's Spirit-form is embodied within a Physical Human Body, One
should take Full Respect and Responsibility in it's utilization! Our Body is a
Precious Mobile Mechanism...granted to us by Creation, and if we Respect our
Human Body, we like-wise Respect CREATION, because...WE are Still....that
Spark of/within Creation! And so, WE shall keep our Bodies Healthy and Sound,
as WE like-wise, proceed...further within CREATION.


Edward.
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Sirashwin
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Post Number: 105
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Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings to all

But i am pretty sure Tuberculosis is known to be caused by a certain type of bacteria. Check this wikipedia link for instance.

Salome
ashwin
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ashwin,

You might consider getting a copy of Die Psyche from FIGU and check out the information regarding Tuberculosis. My copy is quite old, and possibly the information has been updated.

Regards
Scott
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Indi
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Ashwin

You wrote:

Could someone please clarify that is Tuberculosis created by the mind as stated in the old edition of "Die Psyche"? Or does the new edition not have tuberculosis listed as a disease caused by the mind?

and

But i am pretty sure Tuberculosis is known to be caused by a certain type of bacteria. Check this wikipedia link for instance.

Firstly I would like to say that this is not the place to discuss in too much detail theories of disease -- however, your question is a fair one and I will attempt to answer it.


In answer to your first question, yes, the newer book Die Psyche, that I have purchased, also has Tuberculosis listed as one of the disease states that can result from an imbalanced psyche.
So, Billy is saying that TB has a basis other than the mycobacterium.

Unfortunately, as with most things, it is not a simple yes or no answer to questions such as this and others like it. If it was, the world would be handling the treatment and prevention of disease a lot differently than they currently are.

Modern medicine mostly holds that a pathogen such as the mycobacterium associated with TB is the cause of the disease in a person which is basically Germ Theory of disease. You can look all this up on Wikipedia.

There is definitely a connection between symptoms and pathogens, however, there is also an issue of susceptibility that has to be acknowledged – because otherwise, there would be no way to explain why not all people exposed to the same amount of the same pathogen, show symptoms.

Because of this ‘problem’, other theories of disease have been investigated and this is an ongoing process --- until the correct answer is found.

This is an area of my personal study for the past 25 years, so, I would not expect you to have a grasp of the many different processes that lead to the symptoms common to a so-called ‘disease’ – as I myself still have a lot to learn. However, if you are interested, you can slowly read about it all, from more than just the modern medical angle, and then make up your own mind which theory sounds more useful to you.

By giving a disease a name, people are led to saying things like “he has come down with TB” or I have caught a cold etc……… and this way of speaking tends to make us see TB or a cold as discrete entities --- however, there is enough evidence for me to safely say that they are not!

There are more than one thing that needs to be in place for a so-called disease or symptoms to appear and here are some:

Genetic – inherited tendency, susceptibility/weakness
Environmental – toxic agents etc…..
Psychological – internal processes – and here we have an imbalanced psyche as Billy mentions
Nutrient deficiencies
Lifestyle choices – overwork, personal habits, exercise levels etc……
Or combinations of any of the above

However, there are some, and I may fall into this camp, who see the role of the psyche as being one of the most important of any of these – but that is another topic that cannot be covered adequately on a forum not devoted solely to it.

In modern medicine, it is called the field of psycho-neuro-immunology among other things.

In order to understand more how an imbalanced psyche can affect our physiology, it would be a good idea to read about it from Billy’s perspective as well as from the perspective of other authors that you will discover along the way.

Not everything Billy says in his books, is explained in depth, or is acceptable at first reading, or even after many readings. However, if one accepts that Billy is privy to advanced knowledge, and one accepts also that he does not lie, then if he has written something, then one can trust that even if it doesn’t fit what you already understand, that he must have had a reason for offering it – and it is that journey to discover whether or not it is so, is the part that I personally get the greatest pleasure from.

Jakobjn/Jakob has provided quite a lot of information from the spiritual teachings on this forum, and there may be some about the psyche and health that you could find.

I was planning at some stage on offering some translations in this area—and will get to it at some point.

In peace


Robjna
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Trevor
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Post Number: 13
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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Robjna, I enjoy reading your posts, especially when they are like that one. You explain things well. Please keep it up!

You mentioned a while ago that you are a practitioner. I assume you meant a GP but am unsure. Mind if I ask what type of practitioner you are?
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Indi
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Trevor

I am pleased you like my posts.

I work as a psychologist and homoeopath mainly, and also am trained in Clinical Nutrition, herbalism and a wad of other things -- I do enjoy my work most of the time :-)

Robjna
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Trevor
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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Robjna,

Thats great news hearing you have all those credentials under your belt! Then you must know all about the connection between nutrition and psychological disorders.

Wasn't that what the Plejarens were referring to when they said was one of the biggest contributers to the Earth humans present day mental problems was "psychosomatic"?

Can I hear your take on this?

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