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Matthew_deagle
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:35 am: | 
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Dear AG,
Might I add, that I think that this is yet another example of why it is important to learn the German language and read the Contact Notes, etc., for oneself. Obviously, one must always be sceptical and use one's own cognitive capacities, feelings, and senses, to determine the truth and and prove it within themself. It is not the goal of the Plejaren nor Billy to dish out beliefs; to become but an encyclopaedic source of absolute truth for all to devour without conscious thought. Rather, everything is meant to be carefully considered within the context of one's own developing knowledge and experience, etc.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_deagle
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 08:59 am: |
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Dear AG,
Of course, the Plejaren list an enormous number of various causes for cancer, including radiation, a lack of nutrition in the diet, micro-fibres, and various man-made pollutants, etc.
Semjase does say in Contact #57:
"Wegen dem von dir genannten Krebs usw., der durch parasitenhaftes, fehlgesteurtes Leben verkoerpert wird, ist zu sagen, dass wir glueckhafterweise diese Krankheiten schon sehr lange gebannt und besiegt haben."
"Concerning what you call cancer, etc., which is embodied by a parasitic, uncontrolled, misled life, is to be said that quite long ago we warded off and defeated these diseases."
(from Contact 57, 23rd June 1976, 8:54 p.m.; Contact Notes Block 2, page 229)
However, this statement can be interpreted in a number of ways, e.g.: first of all, that there is a psychological component to cancer, which is not unlikely given the mounting evidence of the power of the state of mind over at least recovery from disease; secondly, that this also deals with the parasitic role human beings have taken on with regard to their environment, spreading carcinogenic pollutants throughout the air, water, food, etc., while destroying the ozone layer, etc.
It is also important to consider that Billy encourages that everything he states be considered and thought about, which is why he usually presents quite a lot of logical reasoning, or at least hints toward extant Earth-human corroborative knowledge, etc., whenever he presents information in the Contact Notes, as usually do the Plejaren, too.
For some examples of statements which describe completely different carcinogenic influences from the Contact Notes, here are a couple:
"Quetzal: ...Tomaten enthalten gewisse Wirkstoffe, die gewisse Krebsarten zu einem grossen Prozentsatz zu verhindern vermoegen, und zwar insbesondere den Prostatakrebs."
"Quetzal: Tomatoes contain certain active agents which are able to inhibit certain forms of cancer to a great percentage, and in fact especially prostate cancer."
"Wichtig ist aber dabei, dass immer genuegend Tomaten oder Tomatenprodukte nahrungsmaessig genutzt werden, und zwar besonders in gekochtem Zustand, weil sich durch den Kochenvorgang die Wirkstoffe verstaerken."
"It is important thereby, however, that always enough tomatoes or tomato-products are edibly used, and in fact especially in cooked form, because through the cooking-process the active agents become enhanced."
(out of Contact 216 from the 16th March 1987 at 11:11 p.m.; Contact Notes Block 5, page 295)
and here's another example:
"Billy: Du sagtest einmal, dass die Sonnenstrahlung fuer den Menschen gefaehrlich sei, weil durch zu starke Strahlung auf die ungeschuetze Haut Sonnenbrand entstehe, was ja klar ist."
"Billy: You said once that solar radiation should be dangerous for humans, because sunburns should arise when the unprotected skin is struck by too-intense radiation, what is quite evident."
"Du hast aber dabei auch erwaehnt, dass daraus 'Schwarzer Krebs' entstehe, wenn sich der Sonnenbrand auch in nur minimaler Form wiederhole. Dabei spielt es keine Rolle, wie ich mich erinnere, ob das nur 10 oder ob es 50 oder mehr Jahre nach dem ersten Sonnenbrand sei."
"You have also however thereby mentioned, that 'Black Cancer' should also arise when the sunburn appears in only a minimal form. Thereby it plays no role, as I remember it, if that should be merely 10 or 50 or more years after the first sunburn."
"Jedenfalls spiele der erste Sonnenbrand auf der Haut die Hauptrolle, denn darin beruhten die Faktoren, dass der 'Schwarze Krebs' resp. der Hautkrebs augeloest werden koenne..."
"In any case the primary role should be played by the first sunburn upon the skin, because therein rest the factors which could provoke 'Black Cancer', resp. skin cancer."
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"Quetzal: ...Kuentliches Licht ist ebensowenig harmlos, wie auch nicht die Sonnenstrahlung. Auch jedes Kunstlicht setzt Strahlungen frei, die gesundheitsschaedlich sind, wodurch also verschiedenste Krankheiten ausgeloest werden koennen, wie z.B. verschiedenartige Formen von Krebs."
"Quetzal: Artificial light is no less harmless than solar radiation. Every artificial light, too, releases radiations which are damaging to health, wherethrough thus many various diseases can be triggered, like for instance omnifarious forms of cancer."
(from Contact # 226, Friday 3rd February 1989, 12:07 a.m.; Contact Notes Block 5, pages 450-452)
Salome,
- Matthew |
Markc
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Post Number: 584
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 08:30 am: |
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Hi AG ;
I have wondered about this myself , and I have the same opinion as Scott . Previous lifetimes may have a way of setting us on a path in the current life , and the influence of religion cannot be ignored in this respect . The influence of the family , if highly religious , may start a vibration in a newborn of religious dependency , which , attatched to the previous life's trend , may conclude in cancer .
Thanks for your attending to this , there is no one more appropriate than yourself to ask this question . I really do think there is more to this than the obvious .
Kind regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Psycloud
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 02:13 pm: |
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I think it is hard to say without viewing the original German sentence, but a 'parasite-like, misguided life' could be referred to the cancer itself. But if it doesn't refer to that, then I would you could at least explain the cancer of child from the lifestyle of the parent.
And Rarena, I think you are right about the foods, we do not eat the way we should, but a lot of times we can not afford to pay for the food that is good for you, and we have to settle for the super-processed foods, with depleted food value. This makes it a collective problem, because the companies are producing cancer-causing foods, and sometimes that is the only food available to us.
Salome
Ken
I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth.
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Memo00
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Post Number: 303
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 02:38 pm: |
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Hi AG
I am of the opinion that the following quote:
"...As for what you (Billy) refer to as cancer, which is manifested because of a parasite-like, misguided life, we were fortunate enough to eradicate this disease a long time ago..."
refers to the human being as a whole (the entire human kind) not specifically an individual (although it is individual actions that one by one make the whole)
all negative things that WE do that end poisoning the air, water, earth, food, and a long list of etcs. lead to Cancer
it probably causes you trouble to imagine that Semjase said what she said, because you`re "trapped" in a certain way of thinking and viewing things
As you may know in many types of Cancer a genetic factor is involved, it has been explained by Billy that our thoughts can affect and produce changes in our DNA, so even if its not the only cause living life in a certain way may contribute to Cancer
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Cancerdoc
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 08:27 pm: |
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I am very impressed with all of you. You are kind and considerate, tactful yet truthful. I wouldn't say those things if I didn't know the difference.
I certainly know the psychological component to cancer development and treatment--this is now almost main stream knowledge in the academic community.
The issue that troubled me was the specific wording of Semjase statement (please refer to previous post for statement)--it did not flow with the same feeling of truthfulness and consistency that I have been accustomed to in the Meier material.
I would like to interpret the original language myself (German) but I especially appreciate the clarification regarding the translation. It allows me to move on from this particular issue and keep proceeding without a personally troubling detail.
Again, I am grateful for your kind thoughts. Your generosity with your time to write responses is itself an inspiring factor for me--because you all seem to live a life of service and truth. In my field, those such as yourselves make the greatest service to humanity.
Best regards,
AG |
Cancerdoc
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 08:50 pm: |
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Oh an I just wanted to add:
I don't think that I am trapped in a certain way of thinking on this particular issue, although I understand why this could seem to be the case. It is not that I dont believe all of things you guys are saying above to a large extent, it is just that I dont think the statement as worded in the book is the truth. Regardless of how you interpret the intention of the statement, the statement itself without further explanation of possible misinterpretation of the original text sounds like a an untruth to me. This is because someone of Semjase's disposition (in my humble opinion) would not want this statement to be interpreted the way it was. Every statement must be scrutinized for truth within ones own knowledge-base. This I agree wholeheartedly with an above post.
AG |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 196
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:29 pm: |
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Greetings AG
Amit: “However, we do see a very distinct causal relationship between for example, smoking and lung cancers.”
Did you know that lung cancer did not exist among American Natives, who smoked tobacco and introduced it to the European? It is a combination of many co-factors like smoking, lifestyle, diet, stress,... that makes cancer. Tobacco is only one of them.
I think Semjase’s statement was meant more as a generalization. Much as they may refer to Americans as liars and cheaters. Of course, they don’t actually mean each and every one. And certainly not innocent little babies.
There are hundreds of co-factors and causative agents and each have causal relationship to poor immunity, poor health, accumulation of toxins inside body, poor thoughts, lack of consciousness, lifestyle, diet, etc. But cellular oxygen starvation is the result leading to uncontrolled cell replication. The Plejarens have explained that the oxygen content of our air on Earth is way too low from the beginning and mankind continues to deplete it by our actions: i.e. pollution and de-forestation in a parasitic lifestyle.
Kind regards
Bob |
Indi
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:33 pm: |
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Dear AG
Your concerns are valid ones from your perspective, however, I would like to say as others have that taking one statement like that and giving it a meaning from your own perspective, may lead to a conclusion such as you have, which was not intended by the speaker or a reflection of the bigger-picture-context that was being described.
The state of our psychic and physical health is discussed throughout the writings, and the following seems to reflect most of it, although not in detail -- this is a very rough quick unofficial translation only:
from Genesis, p.222
145.Herz- und Kreislauferkrankungen, Stoffwechselleiden und Krebs grassieren zur Jetztzeit bösartiger als je zuvor.
145. Heart and circulatory illness, metabolism ailments and cancer are rife in modern times more malignant/incurable/pernicious than ever before.
146. Alle diese Krankheiten werden aber hervorgerufen durch feine und grobe falsche Lebensgewohnheiten des Erdenmenschen, einerseits durch die Fehlsteuerung der geistigen Kräfte, andererseits zweifellos durch die Umwelt des modernen Erdenmenschen, durch die Art seines materiellen Lebens und seiner Ernährung, so aber auch durch die Gesetz- und Gebotsmissachtung im Geistesevolutionsbereich.
146. However, all these illnesses are caused by fine/flimsy and coarse/clumsy/rough incorrect life-habits of the earth person, on the one hand by the misguided management of the spiritual powers, on the other hand, certainly by the environment of the modern earth person, by the customs of his material life and his food, thus, however, also by the disregard of laws and commandments in the spiritual evolution area.
These two sentences do reflect the view expressed throughout the writings as far as I can see.
Others have already expressed this to you, so hopefully this quote will add weight to their comments.
Re children being born with cancer, or young ones contracting what you call cancer, I think that one must take more into account than past life influences, genetic inheritance, plus the environment in utero produced by the mothers inner and external perceptions as well as any external morbid event impacting on the unborn child, and of course all or both of those in conjunction with events after birth, could play a role in the devlopment of various disease states. As you know, it is such a complex thing -- there are so many variables we are aware of, and there may be many we are not yet aware of. This will come with time.
The use of the term 'parasite' may seem harsh when considering a young babe with an affliction - but it was not intended for to refer to those cases I am sure -- but if you can rise above that for a moment and see it from the perspective of ongoing evolution as being necessary for Creation as well as anything that stems from it, and the health or 'fitness' of anything that stems from it, then it may not appear so harsh or out of place.
In this case, it would maybe be the author of the book who has caused this issue -- by not providing an explanation of such a statement!
Re use of the word 'parasite' by the Plejaren and Billy Meier, in the writings, it is referring often to those humans, who fail during their present life, to participate responsibly in their world, taking into consideration other, the planet, the environment and most importantly, their point to existence, which is to evolve. Without taking this responsibility, evolution is not possible, and that is basically a 'parasite' existence.
in peace
Robjna} |
Michael
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Post Number: 616
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 10:58 pm: |
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Hi,
I am simply copying over this email re cancer from another person who sent it to me completely independent of this discussion, in case any of it is interesting:
"Semjase was answering a question in the book And Still They Fly about why the Plejaren haven't, or won't, help Earth humans solve the problem of cancer. While it is true that the current medical establishment on Earth has not accepted the Trophoblast Theory of cancer to date as they continue on with their erroneous slash, burn, and poison methods to respond to what they think is a Viral Theory of cancer, we already do know what cancer really is and I have covered it several times on my Web Site. Cancer is simply our natural diploid totipotent (undifferentiated) cells in the wrong place at the wrong time. It got there during fetal development when some 18% of the diploid totipotent cells missed their target gonads to become future haploid gametogenous cells (men and women) and ended up in other locations of the body where they sit. But the haploid gametogenous cells, 1/2 DNA for each sperm and egg, are not the lowest life form. When a woman becomes pregnant, the haploid level of cell undergoes one more level of meiotic meiosis and reduces to a trophoblast cell. The function of the trophoblast cell is to carve a niche into the woman's uterus for the fetus to attach itself. This highly invasive cell literally acts like cancer (because it is) but has a natural life function. After the fetus attaches to the woman's uterus and the fetus' pancreas kicks in, the pancreatic enzymes of the fetus knocks off the trophoblast cells' parasitic activity and stops its invasive action. In those rare cases when it doesn't, this is referred to as a very deadly form of cancer called chorionepthelioma and, if not corrected, which it usually is today, will result in the death of both the mother and fetus in about a week. Semjase correctly points out, in fact, that cancer is a parasitic life form about which Earth humans know nothing (or not much) but we are not ready for the solution. I just wanted to point out that this life form is not an outside virus or bacteria but rather comes from within each person from themselves before birth. I also wanted to point out that, as far as I know, the Krebs father-son Dr. team in San Francisco discovered -- rather re-verified what Scottish Embryologist John Beardsly found out and hypothesized at Edinburgh University over a hundred years ago: that the trophoblast cell is the cancer cell. The Krebs showed that, even at the lowest morphology level (bio chem) ALL cancer cells are indistinguishable from the trophoblast cell. They may look and act differently because they are in different bodily locations. Can we solve cancer? The last I read was that the silver bullet to knock off the errant trophoblast -- which is simply a natural human life cell in the wrong place at the wrong time -- was the release of a locked up molecule of Cyanide or Amygdalin that occurs in non processed foods diet, such as apricot kernals or veggies rich in Amygdalin. Without going into the long chemical process, the Cn attaches to the trophoblast because it lacks chemical XYZ while normal somatic cells are protected by the enzyme Rhodanese. What causes the errant diploid totipotent (not yet differentiated) cell to reduce to the trophoblast is due to things like injury, etc. during which steroids show up to heal the injury and unforunately stimulate the undifferentiated cells to undergo meiosis twice to become cancer, or trophoblast. So they start their invasive action and we call it cancer. As stated above, cancer looks different, phenotypically, when exhibited in different parts of the body because the somatic cells are already differentiated. But at their basic morphology, Hodgkins, melanoma, and all other cancer cells are the same and one and only: trophoblast cells."
Michael Horn
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Indi
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 03:25 am: |
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Hi Michael
re your recent post -- I think it would have been appropriate to say who the author was as whoever it is has made some sweeping statements and obviously holds his/her opinion to be correct -- and even mentions a website. So, please provide that information.
re the following exerpt from that letter:
Semjase correctly points out, in fact, that cancer is a parasitic life form about which Earth humans know nothing (or not much) but we are not ready for the solution.
I can not see where Semjase points this out!
However, in the exerpt from the book originally quoted -- Semjase did not say that a parasitic lifeform was the cause of cancer.
What she did say was that cancer manifested because of "a parasite-like, misguided life...."
which is clearly not what has been suggested.
she goes on to say that they were only able to eradicate it on Erra, when they moved from negative thinking and behaviour to what must have been a more healthgiving attitude/way of thinking and acting.
This of course is inline with the rest of the teachings about maintaining neutral-positive thinking and acting/behaving in line with Creation and its laws and commandments.
If however, Semjase did say that cancer was caused by a parasite, other than in the above from the 57th contact, then I would surely appreciate seeing that -- so maybe your writer can provide that?
I am sure there are many theories about how a cancer cell begins to grow -- I have been studying this kind of thing for many many years now. And so, the theory in the letter you posted, is just that, a theory, just like all the other ones -- and it may be correct in some ways -- I am not qualified to comment on that -- but if what Semjase says is correct, then it seems that one needs to go back another step at least, to what preceded or triggered the cells to change/multiply that is in line with lack of neutral/positive thinking.
Billy does mention in various places throughout the writings, that diseases often are the result of the impact of the incorrect thoughts on the nerve plexii, mainly the solar plexus (which we know is considered part of the psyche by Billy), which in turn affects the functioning of the various organs and tissues that rely on its correct function. These changes are also likely to impair immune function in a similar way and all due to lack of neutral positive thinking. So, in that light, if one cannot think correctly and follow creational laws without fail, the next best thing while we are working on that, would be to enhance the immune system function so that any changes or 'events' that may result from lack of correct thinking, can be quickly dealt with.
There is a whole booklet available from the FIGU shop on the use of gamma interferon for this purpose as a prophylactic and treatment as discussed by Ptaah. The Plejaren apparently use this for their own health. The daily consumption of live yoghurt and or kefir, apparently offers some protection in connection with the production of gamma interferon from these foods. There is an article about that written by Rebecca ....? who has a website with some articles as well.
Dr. Hamer, who is also mentioned in an above post, although a renegade, and considered a fraud and charlatan by the medical profession and even Billy and Ptaah have had a go at him (which I thought was inappropriate)calling him names -- he has provided us with a model that is worthy of testing that accounts for cells proliferating and cells breaking down (both of which seem to be labeled as 'cancer' in Allopathy). His model is not the same as the one presented in the post you offered, but it incorporates the component of a 'perceived threat or shock' that sets in motion a biological program, built in to the body. I find this hypothesis to be more acceptable than many I have read. I have tested Dr. Hamer's hypothesis on my patients in both my psychology practice and my Homoeopathic practice -- and so far, I have been able to easily pin point an event that preceded about 80% of my patients disease states using his guidelines.
Dr. Hamer's explanation of the causes of breast cancer fits perfectly into my own family's situation with both my sister and mother being diagnosed with this -- however, both their presentations fit perfectly into Dr. Hamers explanation, even down to which breast was affected and which shock was experienced by both of them. The main problem I find with Dr. Hamer's offering is that when it comes to 'what do you do once you have worked out what caused the problem' he only really recommends awareness of the disease cause and process and thereby not creating further 'shocks' -- and unfortunately, this is just not feasable for many patients, who will die before they have adopted the new way of thinking and understanding, or who were in too advanced a state to be able to survive this kind of approach safely. This I think is where he has been severly treated by authorities -- and maybe rightly so - I will not be his judge.
So, Michael, please if you would, could you provide us with the website of this person who wrote to you, as any theory is worthy of consideration for such a disease process that is so devastating to most.
And, maybe your writer would like to double check his statement about a parasite being the cause of cancer, which he thinks supports his theory in some way -- in case he has made an error.
in peace
robjna |
Adam
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 06:06 am: |
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Hi,
First and foremost the human being becomes what he thinks and secondly food and environment has an effect. So think and eat healthily.
Some smoke all their lives and have no trace of cancer just as others bake themselves in the sun and have spotless skin except for a goanna-like complexion.
Check out Dr. Day's cancer recovery story
http://www.drday.com/
Regards
Adam |
Syn
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 06:59 am: |
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i shown this to a few friends and they are buying it, they found it very interesting even knowing some of it it does make sense.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Cancerdoc
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 07:50 am: |
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Thanks for your comments regarding lung cancer. What source did you hear that American Indians didn't have lung cancer? Think about this: before adequate screening mechanisms, diagnostic tools, and treatment algorithms, NO ONE had lung cancer because no one picked it up and treated it.
Regarding the differential incidences of cancer worldwide, there are a number of interesting things to note--one being that the incidence of particular cancers such as breast cancer and prostate cancer are a magnitude less in the Eastern hemisphere than in the Western hemisphere--a fact that is attributable at least in part to changes in diet, lifestyle, etc. I do not disagree with the premise that the "abnormal uncontrollable growth of cells" which is cancer has many factors that contribute to its initiation and development, but there are some things that are indeed unmistakable. One of them is the contribution of carcinogenic environmental agents on the initiation of tumorigenesis (i.e. smoking, pollutants, etc). This has been worked out at the molecular level in great detail. This is perhaps among the most well-studied aspect of field of oncology today (not to say much is still not known).
It is interesting to note here that we are actively discovering the positive effects of different natural polyphenols (plant products) on the intiation, development, and treatment of cancers. This is a very active area of research and it will only intensify. There is much resistance to study natural products as drug companies may potentially lose billions from not being able to sell such products, but the research continues. In this regard, everything that I have been hearing is in line with my own personal truth.
The email exerpt from Michael Horn is a reflection of another intense area of research in cancer development--mainly referring to the area of stem cell research. Several very key papers have come out very recently pertaining to the subject above. As an aside, the information being shared here is truly at a level I would not have imagined in any other forum of lay people. There is something very special here, and I recognize that. This is a microcosm of the priniciple that following the creational laws and commandments (as I know them at this time) leads to growth and progression and true knowledge.
These truths are indeed coming to pass--as they are meant to happen in due time, that I know to be true.
Again, I'm grateful for your time and concerns.
AG |
Rarena
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Post Number: 306
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 01:07 pm: |
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Dear Amit,
Feelings mutual! |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 09:09 pm: |
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AG: “What source did you hear that American Indians didn't have lung cancer?”
It was just something I came upon when I was doing a lot of research about cancer. A close cousin was battling it at the time. I just thought it interesting, so it stuck in my mind. You can find it at the link just below. However, you do have a point that given the methodologies available, it can not be a definitive statement.
http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancercause.html
Another interesting tidbit I came upon in my reading was that Edgar Cayce recommended eating two or three almonds a day to prevent cancer. However, he never actually recommended it as a treatment for cancer. I don’t know how well it works but he did have a pretty good track record in other health matters. Anyway here is a link for that if you are interested:
http://www.edgarcayce.org/health/database/health_resources/therapies_almonds.asp
Regards
Bob |
Thomas
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Post Number: 416
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:30 am: |
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Hello everyone. I had some ideas to add to this discussion which might reconcile the different views a bit. I have read somewhere (and this may or may not be true) that either a more alkaline or a more acidic environment in the body (I forgot which) contributes to the possibility of cancer development while the other extreme lessens the probability that cancer will develop at that location. This is a generalized statement, which as I said may or may not be correct to a degree, but it reminded me of something BEAM has talked about. He mentioned that excited, out of balanced emotional states lead to adrenaline imbalance etc in the body and that lactic acid produced by the muscles acts to counteract and calm these effects. The latter statement is already widely accepted as true. My thought was that may, as the Plejaren state, there are many causes and triggers for cancer. However maybe a balanced body chemistry prevents cancer from developing in the normal healthy person. An unbalanced, extremist lifestyle would definitely be one way to describe lifestyle as mentioned by Semjase. In the case of babies that develop cancer, this is likely due to genetic defects or environmental factors as BEAM, I believe, once mentioned. Thus lifestyle, which affects the body chemistry can lead to cancer under certain conditions, while environmental or other factors can cause it even when there is no "parasitic" lifestyle. On Erra cancer might have been eliminated because on one hand, balanced living and thinking prevents the formation of a cancer friendly body environment, and on the other hand, the Errans/Plejaren have created a society in which cooperation has lead to technical advances which prevents the other factors from taking hold (genetics etc). What do you all think? Thomas |
Rarena
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 08:15 am: |
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Found some info about Cancer in the Contact books:
Book #/ Page / Sentence
Contact Book 6/153/367 Green Tea may help with Cancer
Contact Book 6/ 476/ 980 Sunscreen can penetrate skin causing black cancer
Contact Book 9/3859/45 Tanning beds may cause black cancer |
Alan
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 02:06 pm: |
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Wearing strong magnets around the body are suppossed to be a cure-all for cancer. Billy once said that too, I think it was in questions to billy. |
Alan
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 02:22 pm: |
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"...but to infer from Semjase statement that a child of only several months has developed a rare tumor due to a parasite-like misguided life deserves a further explanation."
AG is it possible that the mother could have given the child the cancer in some way, (from worrying,stress,ect) or something like that? If so then this would fit in with what Semjase said.
p.s/ I'm sure/know billy said something about magnets and curing cancer but had a quick look and could find where. Does anyone remember where he said this? |
Alan
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 02:38 pm: |
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AG I was talking about in the womb. |
Alan
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Post Number: 139
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| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 03:54 pm: |
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I found it but I just noticed that it is a little unclear if Billy is actually saying that wearing strong magnets will cure cancer.
Francofiori2004
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Username: Francofiori2004
I'd like to know what you think about magnetotherapy and similar devices like q-link and alex chiu's rings (www.getperfectbody.com and www.clarus.com).
Billy thinks that all of this stuff (including magnet bracelets, bioresonance, light lamps with colours, dowsing for watercourses, etc. etc.) is having an effect through pure imagination only (= placebo effect). If magnets are to be used and be useful, they have to be very strong.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7510.html#POST27169 |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 07:14 pm: |
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Reading further on this subject, I found this rather curious comment:
“Researchers state that the majority of people especially those with cancer, play host to one form of parasite or another. They can range from tiny amoebae detectable only with a microscope to tapeworms many feet in length.” I found it on this cancer website:
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/therapycomponents.html
I'm sure it's just a coincidence! ;-) |
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