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Badr
Moderator
Post Number: 379
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 02:25 pm: | 
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Hi Paul,
Just wanted to correct you on a couple of the points.
4) A lot of the teachings were learnt by himself through experiences, examples is through travelling around the world and learning different cultures and religions, another example is through the storage banks, visiting the past, visiting the future, and seeing some of the current events but behind the scenes, this can’t really be proven beyond a doubt. Plus Billy is writing lessons for the Plejarens. So not sure where you got your info from.
6) Billy has written continually “not to believe or trust anyone but yourself”.
7) If you knew someone that continually gave correct information and good advice, and probably for generations and not a few years, would you not go to him/her for advice if you needed help?
People are still discussing the existence of god or creator and if ETs exist and so on and there are thousands of pages of spiritual lessons just under our noses and within reach. Regardless it being in German I know for a fact that it didn’t stop some people, if there is a will.
For your information Billy has given us the tools to prove what he is saying, which is in the spirit lessons. If you read well enough into the thousands of pages you will notice that the heart of the mission is the spiritual related topics that you can prove to yourself and not material things like UFOs and pictures and videos and so on.
Just a friendly tip, why not spend more time on the actual information than the forum here. Maybe even buy a book or get one of the German originals and translate it. That is ofcourse if you didn’t have anything better to do, and see that there is more than just the shallow views of UFOs, ETs or ridicules claims of motivated by money, fame, conspiracy and so on.
Salome, Badr |
Behzad
Member
Post Number: 28
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:41 pm: |
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Dear Badr
excellent explanation and up to the point
Salome Friends
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 229
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 05:00 pm: |
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Hello All,
Badr, I still find that the Forum section: General Area > Non-FIGU Related > Miscellaneous is still blocked.
Can you give some idea when the blocked sections will re-open?
Meanwhile, I would like to post some information which some readers may find of interest. If possible, may I post here?
Salome
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J_rod7
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Badr
Moderator
Post Number: 380
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 11:10 pm: |
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Hi Rod,
You are actually the third person on the forum that asks this question... don't know if it is that people don't care about the forum announcements or that they don't like to use the search function before asking.
As for your above question, as long as its FIGU related then it will be approved. Which is why I removed your "announcement" because it has nothing to do with FIGU.
Salome, Badr |
Karlsult
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 04:43 am: |
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Hi,
I have a question...
Mainly about a person from myspace, his profile is at:
http://www.myspace.com/dalibor777 He has a ton of info about Meier and related things. Plus thousands of friends...
But this is what he says about himself:
"We are Star Kids visiting this planet, helping her and her inhabitants to stay healthy. We are more than 22 billion years old genetically, and our souls are eternal. Would you like to know more about your origins, trillions of inhabited planets, religion and spirituality? I will tell you and I will show you."
So is that nonsense??
I wish to know.
Thanks,
Karl |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 231
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:34 pm: |
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Hello Karl,
I have not yet seen the myspace story you refer to in your post. It may be good for a laugh or two. Sorry, that's pre-judgement, I will take a look at it.
On a more serious note: If the person is using Billy Meier's material without permission, that is blatant plagiarism.
You might address your concerns to Billy directly in the forum section:> Mission > "Your Questions to Billy Meier - Answered".
My opinion is that it is probably nonsense.
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 233
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 04:48 pm: |
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Hello Karl, Greetings to All In Peace,
Well Karl, I will retract my statement: "My opinion is that it is probably nonsense." There is actually a wealth of information on the website of your reference: www.myspace.com/dalibor777
However, Discernment is called for here. Most of the information at the site comes from the (now closed) website of gaiaguys.
One glaring deception I noticed, is the supposed claim that Semjase is engaged in an internet 'blog'. This is patently UNTRUE. Semjase is currently in the DAL Universe, and will remain there an additional 40 to 60 years recovering from her accident, before she returns. The assertion that she or any other member from the Federation is engaged with internet 'blogs' is absurd.
At any rate, there is also much good information there, with lots of links, which should arouse interest in the minds of the general populace. One glaring omission is the lack of links to 'authorized' FIGU websites. Some links at that myspace site lead to some disturbing & hateful propaganda sites. We do not engage in such tactics as they are contrary to the objectives, to the mission of Spiritual growth or awareness of Creation, as brought to us by the Plejarens.
In my humble opinion, Take this 'soup' with many grains of salt. {Discernment and Caution}
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Karlsult
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 12:13 am: |
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Yes, I know on that myspace page there are some great things... but mainly I wish to know about this:
"We are Star Kids visiting this planet, helping her and her inhabitants to stay healthy. We are more than 22 billion years old genetically, and our souls are eternal. Would you like to know more about your origins, trillions of inhabited planets, religion and spirituality? I will tell you and I will show you."
That's the myspace page owner About Me section. I am interested to know whether it's true that there exist so called star kids, visiting Earth in order to help her?
Thanks,
Karl |
Indi
Member
Post Number: 215
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 02:42 am: |
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from what I have read of the material and from what Billy has said on this issue eg., Indigo kids, no, it is not true -- it is NewAge poppycock!
Robjna |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1489
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 07:51 am: |
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Hello,
While this may be the "Skeptic's Corner", this is in relation to Billy and his information, please let's stick to the topic. Thanks...
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 234
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 12:44 pm: |
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Hello Karl,
>"...22 billion years old genetically..."< = Is not possible. This implies they are in the same body the 22 billion years.
With each new incarnation, the new bodies taken up by the Spirit have different genetic material (DNA-specific).
>"...our souls are eternal."< = ALL Spirits are 'eternal'.
Do they set themselves apart from all other lifeforms?
IMHO: nonsense.!
Salome
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J_rod7
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Pauljanus
Member
Post Number: 21
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:36 am: |
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Hi all,
re the Creation and its cycles, do you think the years given are Earth years (i.e. revolutions of Earth around Sol)?
Regards,
--PJ |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 375
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 05:04 pm: |
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They are given in the form that we would readily understand. So if the time given is 1000 years, it means just that.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Pauljanus
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 03:19 pm: |
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You know that our "year" is just an arbitrary amount of time, unless all the planets in the Universe take the same time to revolve around their sun, which is not. For instance Mars' year is about twice ours.
If I converted 1000 of our years to Mars's years, that would be a non-integer quantity, let's say 514.32134 (not the exact figure, it's just for the sake of discussion).
Given that, is really an extraordinary coincidence that the Creation cycles' duration, expressed in one of our arbitrary time's measurement unit, are all integers and reduce to 9.
If I converted them to the Mars' or Zeta Reticuli's or Erra's years, they would lose this nice property.
I always thought that our planet had a special, privileged place in the Universe(s), and that's indeed an astounding confirmation.
Peace
--PJ |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 237
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 05:43 pm: |
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Hello PJ,
There is an accurate measure of time. This measurement would indeed be universal. The hyperfine resonance of Hydrogen is used in radio-astronomy in a Hydrogen Maser to produce a clock pulse at 1,420,405,751.785 Hz. This frequency is converted by phase-locked loop oscillators to useable values.
However, how many people on Earth are capable of understanding, let alone using, this degree of accuracy? Therefore, timescale values of Creation are expressed in values which most people ON EARTH are able to grasp. We here are NOT at the center of the Universe.!
Salome
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J_rod7
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Pauljanus
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:53 am: |
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Hello J_rod7,
my comment about the privileged place we have in the Universe was related to the fact that, when the Creation's cycles are expressed in Earth's time units, they present nice cabalistic properties like being an integer and reducing to nine (i.e. summing repeatedly the digits until they reduce to one, the final result is 9).
In my view this is quite remarkable because if you convert the time in most of the other planets' years, or even in the number of hydrogen's basic cycles, it is not very likely to happen.
Peace
--PJ |
Mqhassan
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:53 am: |
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The Interesting point in defining time according to Earth time like One year = 365.25 days and the resuting 24 hr 56 mins for the day, it also strongly related to the planet ERRA as well.
So the figures the Plajarans gave us about the Universe age in earth years are actually the same figures that they teach on their planet !
Another interesting conclusion is the way they designed their spacecraft and their dimensions. What have 3.5m , 7m 17m and 21m diameter spacecraft unless their measuring units are very close or similar to our MKS system ?
Is there a meter length measure on ERRA ?
When you measure the same dimensions in feet you will NOT get multiples of 7
Any secret in this ?
Salome
Mohammed |
Mqhassan
Member
Post Number: 60
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:18 pm: |
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I meant 23 hr 56 min |
Adysor
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:43 am: |
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might ask Billy Meier about this......
it's pretty interesting
Adrian.
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 238
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:54 am: |
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PaulJanus,
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Your logic is fallacious. Your argument is specious and irrelevant.
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J_rod7
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 239
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 04:13 pm: |
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Greeting All In Peace,
For all who will read or post here. This is from the OM cannon 20: 38-42. Words that may we all take to heart...:
"The Earth human's sense of effort towards seeking the truth has disappeared. He has lost the inclination to seek the truth through his inherent power of thinking, searching and recognizing.
"Therefore he has wandered into the erroneous form of thinking, that he will only accept as true that which he can touch with his hands and that he can see with his eyes and that he can hear with his ears.
"But this is the false, purely material way, which mocks and scorns any effort of self-thinking, self-feeling, self-searching, self-seeking and self-recognition of every solution and truth.
"Therefore through this, the way to the searching for the truth, and the finding of the truth, is not provided. And so, through the JHWH and the Prophets, no signs, or only sparse signs, should be given, that testify to the truth.
"The word of truth is given, and this is wholly sufficient to reveal the teaching of the truth for any who are willing to make and to bear the effort of learning through their own power."
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Pauljanus
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:07 am: |
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Jrod_7,
I admit I was being sarcastic. I don't really think that the Earth has a special place in the Universe.
That was just to point out that is an almost unbelievable coincidence that the cycles of Creation, expressed in Earth years, one arbitrary unit of measure between innumerable others, have those nice properties.
I was simply using my "effort of self-thinking, self-feeling, self-searching, self-seeking and self-recognition of every solution and truth", as you rightly call them, on the informations I was given as an undisputable truth.
Quoting:
"[...] he will only accept as true that which he can touch with his hands and that he can see with his eyes and that he can hear with his ears."
Seems legit to me. It's called science.
Peace
--PJ |
Adysor
Member
Post Number: 62
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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in science you use your mind, you think through the physical....
Adrian.
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