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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 10:32 am: | 
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:55 am:
In http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=7511
Phi-Spiral mentioned that he would post a flow chart of our galactic history from "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums"..Do you have it Bob ?
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 01:57 pm: |
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With regards to President Obama, let us all keep in mind that, even though his spirit form is part of the mission, he is surrounded by 535 others who make the laws (and break the laws). It is very tough to steer in waters with 535 different directions. His tasks are enormous and his congressional support needs to be more supportive to enable his leadership to continue. If everyone stays the course with Obama, Ron Paul could split the Republican "undecided".
I once read that one of the Kennedy's (Bobby, I think) purposely registered an additional candidate as opponent with a name that was different from his main opponent by only the middle initial. The initial for the "bogus" candidate was earlier in the alphabet than Kennedy's real opponent. This caused the voters to mistakely split their vote between the two similarly named candidates. This 'dilution' allowed the Kennedy to win the election. Those who knew the correct middle intial voted correctly, those who did not, voted for the first one listed.
The lesson learned is...do not dilute the vote from the one whose spirit form is part of the mission. In my opinion, Ron Paul should be Obama's running mate.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 409
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:42 am: |
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In Korff's book, Spaceships of the Pleaides, pg 298, he raises the question about why the american researchers(wendell, Elders, Tom, Kinders) havent collected any soil or vegetation samples. However radiation readings of the tracks, surrounding area & on Meier's body and things he carried, were noted down by Thomas Welch in his book.
(Generally, Plejaren would never leave the radiation left over by their Beamships. That is the reason why they made mature trees around 5, disappear.
But at the landing tracks sites, the grass started growing in the counter-clockwise direction, this shows that the radiation still lingers in the grass. It seems Plejaren only make trees disappear only when dangerous levels of radiation is left behind, which is not the case with the landing tracks locations.)
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Edward
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Post Number: 2173
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 02:36 am: |
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Hi Johnboy....
Interesting input!
Well, I have heard here, that a majority of the Republicans call Ron Paul TOO
LIBERAL, and TOO LEFT. And, of course....they despise him. Some say, he should
move on to the Democrats.
Perhaps, he may be a good candidate?
Could be an excellent combination?
Edward. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 615
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 06:20 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam,
It was mentioned by Semjase in the 16th contact that the Plejaren touch-downs in areas where it would be difficult to observe and locate and one of the reason of this secrecy was to avoid the discovery and subsequent analysis by scientists. She mentioned that the radiation lingers for months.
\The landing tracks under discussion were created by the anti-gravity field of the craft when the craft hovered above. So in fact, the landing arms rested above anti-gravity field and did not touched ground directly.
The other landing tracks that were observed were also the result of Lyren beamships hovering over a beam of light which burnt the vegetation and the soil and also single circular landing tracks as opposed to three circles equidistant from each other, representing other types of ships.
Regarding the fir tree that was eliminated, it was written that the tree sucked up radiations from the ship as Semjase ship came very near and even touched the branches:
16:12/ This had picked up some radiations from my ship and sucked them up, because I came very near, and even touched the branches with my ship. This radiation, which is harmless for creatures, endures for months and could be detected and analysed by your scientists , which could increase their research knowledge.
Questions remains unanswered:
1) How near is very near, i.e. at what distance the vegetation picks up the radiation and which lingers for month and for which the Plejarens are concerned? The fir tree was very near and even touched the ship.
2) In some instance when Sfath landed his ship or Asket's ships landed, their ships also “hovered” above ground. So landing by hovering is not uncommon for the Plejaren/Lyren/DALs. When the Plejaren say that they are careful about touchdowns and that they are not discovered, do they mean i) Physical touch-downs, where the landing arm touches the ground, or
ii) Hover-landings, where the crafts land, but hover above the ground, or
ii) Both the above.
3) Was the radiation picked up by the investigators in the air, grass or soil?
4) Did the radiation picked up by the investigators would have been better investigated if soil samples were collected?
5) Was the radiation that was picked up by the investigators of the same kind that have the Plejaren concerned given the investigators visited the site after more than a year after they were created while the concerned radiation lingers for months?
Without answering these questions, it would be difficult to comment why the Plejaren and Lyren chose not to eliminate the circular landing tracks that were created when their ships hovered while being concerened .
Actually, without having gone to the spot, without knowing what kind of radiation was detected and where it was detected (air/grass/soil...), it is impossible to guess why the investigators did not collect soil sample and if it would have been of any benefit.
We do not have those answers.
he raises the question about why the american researchers(wendell, Elders, Tom, Kinders) havent collected any soil or vegetation samples. However radiation readings of the tracks, surrounding area & on Meier's body and things he carried, were noted down by Thomas Welch in his book.
You see, KKK assumed the following in order to allege the above:
3) Investigators detected radiations either in the grass or soil.
4) The radiation type could have been better investigated if soil samples were collected.
"It seems Plejaren only make trees disappear only when dangerous levels of radiation is left behind, which is not the case with the landing tracks locations."
Again, KKK assumed a lot of things in order to justify this:
1) Assumed that the landing tracks that were investigated falls in the same category of contamination as the fir tree that was eliminated.
2) Assumed that the Plejaren are concerned with both kind of touch-downs, i.e. hover and physical.
5) Assumed that the radiation detected by the investigators were the same that have the Plejaren concerned and the Plejarens were careless in leaving those tracks out in the open.
"But at the landing tracks sites, the grass started growing in the counter-clockwise direction, this shows that the radiation still lingers in the grass."
Nobody can say that for certain - the effect, that the grass started to grow like that might have had its cause traced to the few moments when the ground was exposed to the anti-gravity or, something lingering in the ground for some time (as Korff says). The above statement by KKK is unscientific - like saying "The horrifyingly disfigured victims of the Chernobyl disaster must have radiation emitting from their body because they are still disfigured and that means the radiation is definitely still in there."
“When we listen to a song we feel a yearning for the universal life vibration which exists in the vastness of the Creation. Through this, our consciousness bridges the barriers of place and time and discover our nervous life-force within infinity.” - Tagore, on the significance of rhythm.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 616
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 11:24 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam,
Incomplete sentence in my last post:
Without answering these questions, it would be difficult to comment why the Plejaren and Lyren chose not to eliminate the circular landing tracks that were created when their ships hovered while being concerned......with the radiation left behind in the fir tree.
Sorry for the other typos.
“When we listen to a song we feel a yearning for the universal life vibration which exists in the vastness of the Creation. Through this, our consciousness bridges the barriers of place and time and discover our nervous life-force within infinity.” - Tagore, on the significance of rhythm.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 412
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 12:48 am: |
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"In Korff's book, Spaceships of the Pleaides, pg 298, he raises the question about why the american researchers(wendell, Elders, Tom, Kinders) havent collected any soil or vegetation samples."
Except the above statement made by Korff, the rest are my thoughts.
Ofcourse there are many questions to be answered. But those can only be answered by the Original Investigators or by Gary Kinders as he has presented the radiation readings first(in 1987).
In pg 214, Light Years, the day they recorded these radiation readings, they were accompanying the Japanese crew to Meier's various Photo-sites.I wonder why even the Japanese crew didnt record it on video.
The power which we seek is the power with which we seek - Michael S.Schneider
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 414
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 12:57 am: |
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Does anyone have Photos of Petra-Meriam & ANatol ?
The power which we seek is the power with which we seek - Michael S.Schneider
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 415
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 12:57 am: |
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Contact Report 144, Thursday, the 26th of March 1981
SEmjase:.. for example, the instruction was issued that if you show new photographic material, then it should be maintained by the officers on duty of the rocket base that they observed how you faked these pictures with a model, etc. (These statements were proven by the news service "Microfilm" in the year 1991).
Where can we find out the related news item ?
The power which we seek is the power with which we seek - Michael S.Schneider
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 - 01:06 am: |
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IF we got our present moon, not more than 22 million years ago..how did we lose our previous 2 moons as has been the given in the contact reports. If there were changes in number of moons or lack of moons, then we should be able to find the changes on our earth(?). i wonder whether we have any evidence for such..!
The power which we seek is the power with which we seek - Michael S.Schneider
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Edward
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Post Number: 2197
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 01:53 am: |
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Hi Mihigitam...
I was wondering of a Destroyer type of Comet/Astroid; as we read the FIGU
Materials it does 'repeat' the name Destroyer, which have relation to a
Devastating Object from outer space, referring to the above mentioned.
Such did, occur with our Mars and TWO of it's MOONS. The Destroyer just
dragged them with it in it's trajectory, as I understood. This scenario could
have had Affect on the 2 Moons you mentioned(?). The whole system would
have been Affected. But, still stable enough to proceed further in it's
configuration.
This is what Billy mentioned about a Second Moon.
Excerpt:
SECOND "MOON" OF EARTH
Research into Earth's close and distant surroundings revealed that a second,
much smaller moon is trailing Earth on a complicated track around the sun.
Astronomer Paul A. Wiegert of the Department of Physics and Astronomy, York
University, Ontario, Canada, reports that the recently discovered mini moon is
an asteroid 5 kilometers [3.1 miles] in diameter. To the naked eye this mini
moon appears invisible as it moves around the Earth in a "horseshoe orbit."
The approximately one-year orbital period for this second Earth companion is
strongly influenced by our planet. Saturn and its two satellite moons, Janus
and Epimetheus, form a similar configuration with their triangular-celestial-
body pattern.
The asteroid, respectively mini moon, is known as "3753." Every 385 years it
approaches the Earth to within 12 million kilometers [7.5 million miles],
approximately 31 times the mean distance from Earth to the Moon. For this
reason, the threat of a collision with our planet is virtually non-existent,
even though this chunk repeatedly intersects Earth's orbit.--Calculations
reveal that the last close encounter occurred more than 100 years ago, and
that in 1998 the minimum distance to the asteroid moon will be 50 million
kilometers [31 million miles], or approximately 130 times the mean distance
from Earth to the Moon. According to some calculations, and in spite of its
complicated orbit, asteroid 3753 has allegedly already been Earth's faithful
companion for several millions of years. However, the Pleiadians/Plejarans
have stated that the chunk has only orbited the Earth in its present position
for approximately 75,000-80,000 years, from the time when planet Malona or
Phaeton, respectively, was destroyed.
Billy
Response: Your question refers to my response on page 8 of our Bulletin, Vol.
2, #9.
This particular planet/comet has prompted extremely ludicrous speculations for
some time now, and it may be important to note that in the past it played a
major role in terrestrial history 3,600 years ago, when it generated a
multitude of calculations and conjectures. The same wave of excitement holds
true today, and theories are running rampant with respect to whether or not
UNI/Nibiru/Nubiru will harmlessly pass by Earth or whether it will be drawn
toward the Martian field, which would eventually drag it into Earth's orbit.
Purportedly, our dear old moon will be pushed aside whereupon it will drift
beyond recall into outer space, while Mars, supposedly, will approach Earth to
become its new moon.
Edward. |
Calenwath
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 09:26 pm: |
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Hey Michael, did anything at all come from the Point of Inquiry interview attempt? A responding email to anyone who submitted one perhaps from PoI? Just curious, sorry if you covered this but I put myself on their mailing list for upcoming events. Thats what made me think of it.
Shane |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 436
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 05:31 am: |
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CR 08, pg 105 of uncensored-version(UCV) of contact notes
Semjase tells Billy about the consctruciton of machine that manufactures crystals,...which heals many sicknesses.
Is there such a machine at SSSC & do they sell such crystals ?
CR 22, pg 260
Billy says to semjase that he will construct this apparatus that takes out the ET radiations from crystals
Is this apparatus present at SSSC ?
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 437
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 05:32 am: |
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CR 8(Uncensored version of Contact notes), pg 96
Semjase:
74. But in this direction do your scientists work already since long time, and have to sign also good successes-even if this is not known in the broad public(technology of transferring brain acids that carry intelligence..)
Guess where are they are now after 35 years ?
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 438
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 06:44 am: |
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Is FIGU USA still selling products ? Does anyone of you have the contact details of the person who is running the website and products..
The 'Contact Us' page is not responding, as i am planning to order booklets which i don't have, that completes the whole English collection.
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Edward
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Post Number: 2256
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 02:52 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam...
The mentioned: technology of transferring brain acids that carry intelligence.
Someone here, did once mention Billy being AWARE of himself being an Acid, if
I remember it correctly. Thus, the mentioned Acid, surely does have some
Intelligence of some sort, not?
Billy's experience, just gives us some hints!
Acids are known to do things which are coordinated: thus, indeed Intelligence
can be spoken of....; as far as I know.
Edward. |
Rarena
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Post Number: 711
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 10:57 am: |
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Dear Mahigitam,
The FIGU.org does not accept credit cards nor American dollars... only Swiss Francs (CHF), they are not a bank or bankers. It is not like a U.S. business where there is a bottom line... they are non-materialists... or more like "not for profit" volunteers... helping every Sunday at the bookstore in Switzerland to sell books. You really have to go there to see what I mean... Also include about CHF 10 per book for shipping and handling. (The German FIGU may be easier to procure books from via the Internet) There are some who purchase them via the internet and some who actually go there to purchase the over sixty extraordinary books.
FIGU.org (Switzerland) does not sell fictitious talismans or other products besides books written by Billy or one of the CG49 from their website, except maybe the meditation pyramid (an aide to the Peace Meditation by amplification). The latter has to be hand made to order... most of the time.
Kal Korph is considered a liar by FIGU, Billy and the Plejaren. "And still they Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger would be a far more intelligent book to read to find an overall perspective of the Meier evidence written by someone with more of a science oriented background.
What do you mean by uncensored version of The Contact notes? I am assuming you mean The Pleiadian/Plejaren Contact Reports No 8 which does mention using crystals and metals which have certain characteristics to help the individual using them... it is only in German as far as I know. From what I remember it has been about five or six years since I last read that one... it is based on certain personal individual characteristics of that specific human being and not an overall cure-all for everyone. Each person has a specific set of circumstances which one needs to be bolstered and augmented with and crystals for one: store and amplify these energies. Not energies like electricity you understand... but spiritual energy which no contemporary materialistic earth based scientist would ever understand unless he/she were to be completely open minded (not materialistic and a fault finding I'll believe it when I see it know-it-all) and would probably most likely be part of the upper fifteen percent of both physical and spiritual evolutionary quotiont level of beings who exist on this earth. You could be that being... and if so... my hat is off to you. But the source is still the best place to start.
Salome: Be greeted in peace and wisdom. |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 440
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 04:15 am: |
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Hi Bob,
Uncensored versions are those in which Wendell didn't censor/delete the controversial texts about religion, persons,....It seems Wendell has released only 2 parts-Volume 1 & 2 of uncensored versions.
So, is there such a machine at SSSC, as Billy told Semjase that he will construct such an apparatus ?
p.s: May i know the reason behind the posting of your first 3 paragraphs ?
Salome
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Rarena
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Post Number: 713
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 06:42 am: |
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Dear Mahigitam,
It is my understanding, Wendelle Stevens (The late Colonel USAF) did not censor his information consciously.
Salome |
Patm
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 08:37 am: |
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Rarena,
This is the addendum note at the beginning of Wendelle's uncensored copy of Message 1:
ADDENDUM
The next folder following this Conclusion contains the original English
translations of the original Contact Notes ¡n German, which we had so much
trouble getting accurate and approved by “Billy” Meier himself, who did not
want any of this material published outside of his original group of friends.
It is due to our own naive lack of experience that we foolishly took it upon
ourselves to publish what we thought to be the most important information
¡n the world for the public at large. With hindsight we see that this may not
have been the best thing to do, but we have to live with it now.
In our original production of these notes we took it upon ourselves to omit
certain passages that could have offended certain religious sects, or could
have been. considered libelous in nature. This has come back to haunt us and
require explanations on our part.
In the next folder of original translations of these same notes, from which
our MESSAGE FROM THE PLEIADES, Vol. 1, was written, you may find
the few missing paragraphs that we left out in our version, for whatever
reason, as we have now come to the conclusion that the truth will come out in
the long run anyway, and those who take offense will jut have to do as they
please. If you are turned off by any part of these Contact Notes, they are not
for you anyway.
One additional advantage of referring to this folder is the outline of major
subjects covered in the fore part of these translations, which may assist one
in finding certain subjects of interest in this section of notes.
Publisher
One additional note, the uncensored versions include the color photographs that in the original books were only in black and white (due to publishing costs).
The uncensored versions are available on Michael Horn's website in cd format.
PatM |
Eduardo
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 03:22 am: |
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Dear Billy,
It is very frustrating when I try to talk to somebody about your mission. I have friends that all I simply want is to make them think. Nobody seems to care especially christian friends that I have they don’t even want to listen anything different from their beliefs. Sometimes I even try to motivate my wife to read to search for answers but she does not care very much and spends all day in Facebook. I bought the Talmud of Jmmanuel and suggest her to read it and there it is the book untouched. It is so frustrating when I see everything falling down and people seem that don’t care at all. I wonder how come the majority of people don’t look at the stars and ask the question of where do we come from or how in the world a god created the universe? My question is the following: How I as an individual can help to spread the mission? How can I motivate somebody to search for the truth? How can I feel so much desire and interest about your teachings, mission etc, And other people simply don’t care? What is the best approaching to a person in regards with your mission or what is the best question that I can ask them to make them think? I know everybody has a different thinking and personality but just give me something in general. Thank you so much |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 714
Registered: 10-2005
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Dear PatM,
Hello, I don't think we've communicated previously. Thank you for the addendum about the "uncensored version". Apparently I did not read that version of Wendelle's writings. Thanks again for clearing that up.
Salome |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 780
Registered: 01-2004
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Hello Eduardo,
Welcome to the forum.
I want to tell you that Billy does not read the forum, the only interaction he has is when people can ask him questions once a month indirectly via Christian Frehner.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1871.html?1317524024
The forum has also a search function, which can help you find some answers to questions you may have.
Its understandable that you feel frustrated about what is happening around you, however you must understand that people have a right to their beliefs even when you don’t like it, let it be your friends, parents, wife or kids.
Every person, regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, etc. etc. has a right to decide what to do with his/her life, you can make the spiritual information available to others, but you cant force them, they have to want to read it themselves, out of their own free will.
How would you feel if someone would approach you and try to convince you otherwise? Always ask yourself that question.
The best thing you can do to help the mission is to study the spirit teaching, try to become a better person yourself, you must study to understand the spirit teaching well in its core principles and even then your study will never be over, not in this or the next life, or any life after that.
By living the spirit teaching you become an example to others, what you think and do will radiate out and influence others in a way that they can see how people should live, namely as a human being following the natural creative laws and recommendations.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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