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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2017 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Moderators
Kindly put this info to the right section if necessary - Thank you.


The new Figu Zeitzeichen *) has arrived.
It contains a very recent CR between Ptaah and Billy.

Salome,

Bill




*)
http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/zeitzeichen/figu_zeitzeichen_76.pdf
Google Translate (German to English) will provide a (reasonable though not perfect) translation.
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Patm
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2017 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those interested,

A breakdown of the articles in FIGU-Sign of the Times No. 76 (Aug 2017) can be found here:
https://creationaltruth.org/Library/FIGU-Periodicals/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times/FIGU-Sign-of-the-Times-No-76

The first two articles are both excerpts from the 687th Contact of 22-Jul-2017 (between Billy & Ptaah)

from pages 1 - 5 - The USA and the evolution of Russia
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=reuf4GwN0m8%3d&tabid=1432&portalid=0&mid=5731

from pages 5 - 13 - Criminal organizations in the Underground
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=4aDywZepWBI%3d&tabid=1432&portalid=0&mid=5731

there are also many other current - of interest to FIGU - articles, three of which corroborate previously published texts from FIGU (FIGU text follows each of the three articles)

Salome
PatM
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2017 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm I am Thanks.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoping that this is "shorter"

CR 688 (20/08/17) – Summary only (not a 1:1 translation)
NB I left out the more current political discussion points

Ptaah confirms that it is too late to stop the onslaught of ever increasing damages through climate changes... It is the inexorably growing overpopulation that demands ever more destructive interventions by nature. Our scientists have not yet recognized the scope of the immeasurable changes taking place.

E.g. through the destruction of the forests and oceans the oxygen production is – all over our planet - sinking more and more. At the same time, worldwide, glaciers are melting rapidly – dissolving the permafrost and releasing methane gases into the atmosphere.
As more and more harmful effects surface heavier and heavier catastrophes result. Ptaah warns e.g of several landslides of Piz Cengalo caused by the dissolution of permafrost and that - in the future - those landslides will increase in Switzerland and worldwide. So will as well worldwide the storm catastrophes.

He mentions hurricane Harvey which will destroy/damage more than 100,000 homes. He mentions that monsoon catastrophes will bring great destruction to China and Asian countries and that Africa and Australia will not be spared either.

Billy replies that it will be bitter for those US citizens that lose their home because there are no insurance policies in the US against such catastrophes of nature and that the US government – form a long time in the past – was never able to introduce an obligatory Home insurance against Fire, earthquakes etc. as they have it in Zurich/Switzerland…
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Ptaah tells Billy that after Billy’s death the Plejaren will not have any contact with any members of the core group but will definitely break up any contact with our planet. They will not get in contact with any world leaders.
They had once planned to have a contact with the US and Russian (and then later with all other governments on our planet) but found out that those meeting them would not have been representatives of the government but military and secret services personnel which – because of their “secretly behind the scenes” machinations would have done more harm than good to their world wide peace efforts.

There was as well no intention / will to accept their (Ps.) peaceful demands.

Billy replies that mankind lost a great a chance for a permanent world peace. But deception is basis of all warfare/military and secret services. Even today .... will not correct the fact that the first moon landing never happened. Yes, the Apollo 11 rocket was launched but without any human on board.
The astronauts stayed on the ground and experienced the “Moon landing under the effects of hypnosis / posthypnosis”. A year later (11.4.1970) the team of Apollo 13 then really went to the moon and set up “the traces that Apollo 11 left on the moon”. A second lie was propagated by announcing that because of an explosion on board the rocket the landing on the moon had to be cancelled and only half a moon circumnavigation could be done.
According to Ptaah’s / Plejaren’s information the Apollo 13 team was as well treated by posthypnosis so that they truly believed to only have circumnavigated the moon (not landed on it).

Ptaah replies that (because of this human tendency to deceive) they will not get in contact with people of our planet. But he cannot yet say what they will do when those “foreign to Earth” *) ETs who have moved around Earth for a long time or others (new ETs) which may yet “appear” as this will be a problem for Earth humanity:
It must be clear that diverse “foreign to Earth” beings may not be human nor may they be peaceful.

Billy asks about the psychological effects of soldiers that kill others in war.
Ptaah replies that if the killing does not break them consciously or make them sick then the killing of humans remains a permanent and potential danger which in a similar situation can result in another killing. Many people who are very conscientious and kill because they were forced to do so by their country’s laws, will suffer lifelong psychological damages.

Billy asks whether we can assume that to kill someone a person does not need to be a psychopath and that not all Psychopaths are killers.
Ptaah replies that psychopaths are indeed able to control their behaviour and that even very normal humans can become killers out of emotional motives like hate, revenge, jealousy etc. because these “Ausartungen” cannot be controlled and are emotionally psychopathically determined.

Billy - Then those who are for the death penalty are emotionally psychopathic i.e. they have a psychopathic predisposition?
Ptaah - Yes (supporting the death penalty is indeed a form psychopathy).

Salome,

Bill

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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/14997.html#POST79891
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Moderators
Not quite sure if this is the right topic:
Could we create a topic "Discussion of CRs"?

Hi Votan,

Your Question: Why did creation give us such a weapon?

In view of CR 688 – Kim Jong Un:
You are right in worrying that our world should not have nuclear weapons at all.
They could easily fall in the hands of unscrupulous leaders.

And you are right, the aggressive gene may be the fertile ground in which the nuclear arms race thrived and blossomed.

But all the events we witness in our present – individually and globally - are as well a repetition of past planetary scenarios to which mankind did not respond with a respect of universal laws:
Some 43 % of Edgar Cayce’s readings were given to people that had an incarnation in Atlantis.
So it should not surprise that people who in their past incarnation “made such alterations in the affairs of Earth *) in their day as to bring destruction upon themselves” would recreate an environment that will give them a second chance to correct past errors of judgement.

Our times do have many ominous signs - they could quickly develop into a major catastrophe.
They should be seen as a chance for our world to unite and find a peaceful solution.
But as Billy indicated - neither a hateful Kim Jong Un nor his opponents may read them.

Salome,

Bill

*)
The nuclear destruction of Mu led to a planetary holocaust that extinguished almost all life on our planet.
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Joe
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did any of you feel a little bit strange or different when returning to "normality" after reading the contact reports for the first time? I'm asking because that's how I felt.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The latest ZZ (Zeitzeichen) contains another extract of CR 688 of Aug 20, 2017.
A short summary (not a 1:1 translation) of two topics – there may be little mistakes in my translation but the overall meaning should be clear.

NB: I left out any topics that may have a hint of being politically sensitive.

Ptaah tells Billy that the true figures of those killed for witchcraft or being possessed by evil demons/devils since the time of the Inquisition – was more than 18 million worldwide (9 million by Christian sects / 9 million by other world religions).
The much lower figures (200K to 259 K) Billy sees in TV etc are untrue.

Ptaah puts the many conspiration theories re. Sep 11 to rest:
(Billy had known the truth all along but not was not permitted to speak about it:
Earth scientists were to find out themselves – they are now on the right track to make this discovery and so Billy can now – after 15 years - reveal the truth):

Yes, there were definitely several explosions after the airlines crashed into the WT centre.
But they were not from hidden bombs inside the buildings.
They happened because the aluminium of the airplanes melted and - because of its high viscosity – became runny like water, developed a very high temperature and exploded when they came in contact with the water of the sprinkler system because such runny aluminium is highly explosive when it comes in contact with water.
And because of the high temperature of the water and aluminium the steel beams melted as well because the crashing airplane had cracked the protective covers of the concrete around these steel structures.
So the many innuendos re. involvement of secret services etc are utter nonsense.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

Good article, have often wondered about the whole issue revolving around the inquisition of the 12th and 13th century? It’s pretty obvious that this was forced by religions to basically silence those that would actually think for themselves. Would not be surprised if the Bafath/Giza Intelligences were involved!?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Giza_Intelligences

“The medieval inquisition was established in response to movements considered apostate or heretical (sacrilegious) to Christianity, in particular Catharism (Christian sects).

”This would seem to target the “dreamers, enthusiasts, visionaries …/ /… creative constructive thinkers, designers, prophecy and philosophy, literature, inventions” etc. (Might of the Thoughts; BEAM).

Also interesting about the conspiration (action of plotting or secretly combining) theories regarding September 11, 2001. At one time in working with molten aluminum for making castings, it was very important that water was not present in the molds or there would be an explosion. The way that this was explained, makes perfect sense.

… “aluminium (aluminum) of the airplanes melted and - because of its high viscosity – became runny like water, developed a very high temperature and exploded when they came in contact with the water of the sprinkler system because such runny aluminium is highly explosive when it comes in contact with water.”

Kenneth
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Patm
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those interested,
My translation (which may contain errors) of the first article in the latest FIGU-Zeitzeichen Nr. 78 pages 1-5
'Excerpts from the official 688th Contact-report from the 20th of August 2017' (re: witchcraft, EU-Refugees, 9/11 attack, Russian US Election interference, secret space shuttle) can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=eJjG_BGWZvY%3d&tabid=1438&portalid=0&mid=5759

Salome
PatM
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill building 7 please
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Carolyn
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I am glad to hear the truth about the September 11 explosions at the WTC in New York. I had read some articles posted by scientists at the time, which had posited similar theories about why the buildings collapsed the way they did. I'm glad that the US government wasn't involved in that event!
A time for every purpose under heaven
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Corey
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~To my people of Earth,

Perhaps the future will seem dark due to terrorism (200,316 inside EU), perhaps it will seem dark because of our natural catastrophes that will claim the lives of our people. It is clear that the world needs to embrace natural law (the laws and recommendations of the Creation) to survive before all is lost, and never forget the Earth has the brightest diamond possible, and that diamond is your own consciousness that can assist you to lead an honorable (equitable) life for all of humankind's coming future, and we can make this coming future bright, and worth living if we can embrace the cosmic natural law (the laws and recommendations of the Creation).

Salome and kind regards,
Corey Müske (Mueske)
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Votan
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Corey

Good article. You are right, positive thoughts create positive actions.

Negative thoughts which are material things like the love of money and religion causes negative actions.

Nature is controlled by creation and if it is out of harmony it will fix itself in the form of natural catastrophes like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and hurricanes.
joe
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Patm
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

EddieMartin,

There have now been Excerpts from the official 688th Contact-report from the 20th of August 2017 in the following:

FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 77 (FIGU - Zeitzeichen Nr. 77) (Sep 2017) pages 1 - 6 (published 14-Sep-2017)
(re: hurricanes, US-Russia-Trump, Kim Jong Un, Aborted US/Plejaren contact, faked moon landing, serial killers)
see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=MJNuw6hxInc%3d&tabid=1435&portalid=0&mid=5743

FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 78 (FIGU - Zeitzeichen Nr. 78) (Sep 2017) pages 1 - 5 (published 29-Sep-2017)
(re: Witchcraft, EU-Refugees, 9/11 attack, Russian-US Election interference, secret shuttle)
see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=eJjG_BGWZvY%3d&tabid=1438&portalid=0&mid=5759

FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 79 (FIGU - Zeitzeichen Nr. 79) (Oct 2017) pages 3 - 5 (published 10-Oct-2017)
(re: coming weather, predictions, foresight technology, overpopulation, pollution, US caused political-military world situation)
see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=GGCxAoN5UlQ%3d&tabid=1439&portalid=0&mid=5767

and now the most recent one published
FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 80 (FIGU - Zeitzeichen Nr. 80) (Oct 2017) pages 5 - 9(published 22-Oct-2017)
(re: USRussiaTrump-KimJongUn-USGovernmentPlejarenContact-MoonLanding-Grail)
NOTE: much of these excerpts are the same as what was in Sign of the Times No. 77 with the addition of information regarding the 'Grail' at the end
see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=5kwc26v0oSQ%3d&tabid=1440&portalid=0&mid=5774

All of these include my US English translations (which may contain errors).

One other note the Apollo information in both FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 77 and FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 80 contains the same error:

From: Christian Frehner
Sent: Monday, 25 September, 2017 7:02 AM
To: Patrick McKnight
Cc: Michael Horn
Subject: CR 688: Correction regarding Apollo

Hi Patrick,
Please make the respective corrections on the German and English text on your website .
Based on the obvious mistake, Billy retrieved the text part from his talk with Ptaah anew.
Thank you, and Salome,
Christian

"Hinterlist und Lügerei sowie Intrigen und Verbrechen gehören aber auch zu deren Metier, wie das auch bei der NASA der Fall ist, die ja bis heute behauptet und daherlügt, dass der am 20. Juli 1969 fingierte Mondflug mit der Apollo 11 stattgefunden habe, folglich erst der reale Flug mit Apollo 12 stattfand, wonach eine nächste offizielle Landung auf dem Mond am 5. Februar 1971 stattgefunden hat. Die angebliche Apollo-11-Rakete, so habt ihr damals erklärt, wurde zwar hochgeschossen, doch ohne Mannschaft, wonach dann die Landekapsel wieder abgesprengt wurde und zur Erde zurück kam,"
--
www.figu.org
FIGU Schweiz/Switzerland


This correction (German & English) is reflected in both my translations however will not be found in the original German excerpts in both FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 77 and FIGU - Sign of the Times No. 80.

Salome
PatM
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE UFOs in our skies as per CRs
(I kindly ask the moderators to publish it all despite being a bit long as it is an issue of great interest)

Detailed Discussion re. Evaluating Ptaah's warnings in CR 688

a) Newer CRs – e.g. CR 577 and 578
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_577
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_578

Billy asks but Ptaah is very reluctant to reveal any particulars about the 3 groupings of ETs “foreign to Earth”
Ptaah only mentions that the "ETs foreign to Earth" visited our planet for the past 5000 years but that the PLejaren had always kept a distance to them because in the past the Plejaren were technically not able to get close to them without being seen.

Now, however, due to the technical assistance of the Sonaer, they (Ps.) were able to penetrate their spaceships and establish that the “foreign to Earth” ETs cannot become a danger for them (the PLejaren):
“…That has now changed, however, through our latest findings in such a way that we can now speak openly with you about our cognitions, because with absolute certainty no danger threatens us from the foreign-to-Earth grouping and they also can not register our presence. This also means that regarding this, you may now openly write down and publish our conversation…”
As Billy is surprised that he never told him anything about these ETs Ptaah tells him that the directives of the “Spirit leadership” forbid any discussion at all but that this has changed somewhat since they found out that the ETs pose no danger for the Plejaren and their federation.

There are some indications that the Plejaren are still researching the ETs.
E.g. Ptaah in the newer CRs Ptaah mentions that these ETs were coming to our planet for a longer period:
Ptaah's more recent statement - 5000 years - is rather different to his 2006 statement in CR 424 where he "indicated" that they were flying to Earth "for centuries" - see below **))

It may well be that because of this ongoing research the question whether these ETs pose a threat to our planet is not directly asked nor answered in the newer CRs.

But there is a definitive statement in CR424 (June 17, 2006):
Ptaah tells Billy that they pose no threat - neither for the Plejarens nor for Earth humans*)

From this I would conclude -

The latest warning that Ptaah gave Billy some months ago (CR 688) may not refer to the 3 groups of “Foreign to Earth” ETs (which may or may not be androids from Zeti Reticuli) but to other ETs which may - "it is only a matter of time" - penetrate our skies.

Salome,

Bill

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Ptaah: Actually the situation is still the same regarding the unidentified ones whereby, however, we also no longer make an effort for a clarification because we have gained cognitions to the effect that these foreigners pose no danger for us and the Earth humans.

Therefore we do not make an effort to disturb their own maintenance of secrecy and to make ourselves recognisable to them whereby we can also safely assume that these foreigners have no knowledge of our existence at all because, in relation to them, we always screen ourselves from sight, or location, in every regard, therefore only we know of their existence.

....

Billy Aha, then, since the 1st of July, 2006, all observations of unidentified flying objects, which were probably of extraterrestrial origin, were flying devices of the unidentified foreigners
But yet still a question in regard to that: since when have these been on the Earth and cruised around in the air?

**)
Ptaah Looking back into the past indicates that these foreigners have appeared again and again in the terrestrial air space for several centuries.

Ptaah Tatsächlich ist der Stand noch der gleiche hinsichtlich der Unidentifizierten, wobei wir uns aber um eine Abklärung auch nicht mehr bemühen, weil wir Erkenntnisse dahin gewonnen haben, dass von diesen Fremden keine Gefahr für uns und die Erdenmenschen ausgeht.

Also bemühen wir uns auch nicht darum, ihre eigene Geheimhaltung zu stören und uns ihnen erkenntlich zu machen, wozu wir auch mit Sicherheit annehmen können, dass diese Fremden von unserer Existenz keinerlei Wissen haben, weil wir uns vor ihnen immer in jeder Beziehung gegen Sicht oder Ortung abschirmen, also nur wir von deren Existenz wissen.


Billy Aha, dann waren seit dem 1. Juli 2006 alle Beobachtungen unidentifizierter Flugobjekte, die wahrscheinlich ausserirdischen Ursprungs waren, Fluggeräte der unidentifizierten Fremden.

Aber doch noch eine Frage dazu: Seit wann sind denn diese auf der Erde und kurven in der Luft umher?

Ptaah Rückschauen in die Vergangenheit weisen darauf hin, dass diese Fremden schon seit mehreren Jahrhunderten immer wieder im irdischen Luftraum in Erscheinung treten
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Eddieamartin
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Patm

Thanks for the links. Unfortunately, when I click on the links, the window that opens says "Blocked Plug-in".

Not sure what the issue is on my end.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Patm
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie,

First try another web browser.
If that doesn't work you may need to install a pdf reader.
a free one is available at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/

If this is not the problem I can walk you through this unfortunately this forum is not the place to do it.

Please go to our 'Contact Us' page and provide me with your email and I will contact you directly to walk you through how to correct this at:
https://creationaltruth.org/Home/Contact-Us

Salome
PatM
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, October 27, 2017 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Discussing CR 257

I looked it up because we discussed foreign ETs and in this CR Billy talks about the UFOs in our skies in1997:

There is not much of a warning of foreign ETs in this report!
Billy mentions the reasons for the cover up that is so common to many terrestrial governments that demonize everything that has to do with UFOs and ETS.

One cannot but agree with Billy’s logic:
“If ETs wanted to rule the world they would have long since done so.
They would certainly not have waited until we improved our defence systems.”

In reality we are the aggressors who demonize ETs with movies like “Independence Day”.
He mentions as well that it was the President (TR) himself who selected HG Wells to do his famous radio reportage of ETs invading the USA.

I recommend reading the full CR:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_257

---------------------------------------
On a different note:

In this CR Billy mentions as well the qualities of a “boddhisattwa” – a person which comes very close to the idea of what I called “living with a compassionate heart”:

"According to the ethical measures of Buddhism, the Bodhisattva qualities apply to today.
One recognizes two qualities in him: wisdom and empathy. A Bodhisattva is one who has long achieved enlightenment, but has sworn to reincarnate until the last living being is redeemed. And thereby, that he lives "ahimsa", non-violence. That means that he has renounced the practice of retribution."

German:
Nach den ethishen Massstäben des Buddhisimus legen die Bodhisattva-Qualitäten an den Tag.
Ein Bodhisattva ist einer, der längst Erleuchtung erlangt hat, aber geschworen hat, so lange zu reinkarnieren, bis dass letzte Lebenswesen erlöst ist. Mann erkennt ihn an zwei Eigenschaften: Weisheit und Mitgefühl. Und daran, dass er <ahimsa> lebt, Gewaltlosigkeit. Das heisst, dass er darauf verzichtet, Vergeltung zu üben.."

Well – this was and is my recent point:
Billy may not be a Buddhist/boddhisattwa.
But he gave up a much higher “self” in order to teach the truth to his (Nokodemion’s) races.
His incarnations (e.g Jmmanuel) show the spirit of a of a very loving heart.

So perhaps it is this point that he implicitly wants to tell us - and others?

Salome,

Bill
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Newinitiation
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Bill I am sure that there is some truth and an accurate depiction of ET's especially right about the time the movie independence day was released.
Lucky once again as Dyson Devine would put it.
We were nearly about to be exterminated if it wasn't for the Plejaren who found them another planet in another solar system.
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Hi NewInitiation,

I think Billy wanted to draw attention to the fact that the "demonizing of ETs" by many MSM and secret services etc. is completely illogical and reflects a psychopathic thinking.

He may mention the "thinking of a boddhisattwa" in the same CR, to show that our thoughts will attract/create a much more peaceful appreciation of the unknown world around us if we are not proud and do not hate (thinking we are better/smarter/cleverer), but live a life filled with thoughts of empathy.

There can be no vindictiveness if we live with the insight that all humans, we and others, live to learn from our mistakes, if we see it all with the loving thought of universal oneness and ask "how can I make it to bring this .... (wrong / non-creational thinking/situation in our world) in line with the laws of creation."

Living with such empathy with our environment means living with a deep sense of saving other beings from suffering, feeling happiness when good things come to them, by being kind, compassionate and forgiving to them.

It makes our evolutionary path much more gentle.
Because what we do to others we actually do to our own.

I come to a similar insight and call it "living with a "synthesis in mind" i.e. a "compassionate / balancing heart.. ".

Salome,

Bill
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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, October 29, 2017 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bill, you cannot save people from themselves.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Hi JSN,

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant (and I probably did not clearly express myself).
Semjase expresses this attitude much better in CR 10:

“57. A human who is filled with love is also rich in wisdom, and a human who is rich in wisdom is also full of love.
Ein Mensch, der von Liebe erfüllt ist, ist auch reich an Weisheit, und ein Mensch, der reich an Weisheit ist, ist auch voller Liebe.
244. Those who are rich in spirit become an instrument, through which Creation expresses the spiritual realm
Die Reichen im Geiste werden zum Instrument durch das die Schöpfung das geistige Reich zum Ausdruck bringt.

May be read some of my previous posts *)

Maybe you consider the Plejaren Mission.

The Plejaren may not “save us from us” to use your expression.
We have to “discover us and the world” ourselves.
But for hundreds of years their many thoughts were clearly “how to give us the tools/knowledge/truths” which would assist us in building a new frame of mind and our perception of and goal setting in life.

But knowingly or unknowingly they may have well done so to create a synthesis, to balance the world wide destruction created first by their ancestors during the Pelegon Wars, the destruction of Atlantis that killed two times almost all life on Earth and to balance the many untruths and intrigues of Arus and the Gize Intel.

And they may have done so to assist those of their ancestors re-incarnating on our planet again in our time.

In the same way we should immediately balance any sense of guilt that overcomes us when we perceive our past mistakes.

We cannot prevent mistakes – they are a part of all evolution – they happen that we learn.
Thus it would be wrong and not helpful to stagnate in guilt.
Yes, we cannot repair the past.
But our thoughts are the creator of reality:
We can - in the very moment we feel shame - strongly determine that whoever we meet who is on the verge of falling for the same mistake, that we will warn him, tell him what consequences “a person that commits this mistake” may have to face, tell him what the better way of reaction would be.

Because mistakes and the suffering that follows them are not only a tool telling us what not to do.
They are as well a means that we relate “compassionately” to our environment.
That we use our experience of them to teach others how to prevent them - realizing that ultimately all events in our life are stepping stones for the evolution of the universe:

Our fellow man as much as we ourselves live for the sake of universal evolution.

The laws of our universe guiding this evolution - as much as the scales of Justitia in front of our magistrates’ courts - are based on a balance, a synthesis.

By continually seeking this universal synthesis – by being continually motivated to assist universal evolution - we will omit many excesses – in fame and shame: Our path in life, our evolution, will be without hate or vindictiveness - it will be much more positive yet not excessive and gentle.

In addition, as we base our life on the laws of Creation, we are supported by them and sense what Billy told us:
“Creation created everything in love and logic and put the same love in all its creatures, so that life itself is love…
True love, is true BEING, and it is the everlasting warmth from the centre of the Creation …
Love will continuously be the purpose of life and all-timely it is given in logic…”

This is what I truly meant with “Living with a compassionate heart” and a “mind of (universal) synthesis”.

Salome,

Bill

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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15576.html#POST81269
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/11412.html#POST83625
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Monday, October 30, 2017 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi JSN,

See my reply under "Miscell. Discussions on Creational Laws".

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Hi Moderators,
For a short period of time - when I left clicked inside this textbox the message "Stop correcting this pwerson" (with the typing error) appeared.

Now it does not appear anymore.
But you may want to check why such a message (textbox property "OnLeftClick"?) could appear on your web site textbox.

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Salome

Bill

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