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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MAN'S ORIGIN AND DESTINATION IS SPIRITUAL - AN AFTERTHOUGHT TO KENNETH’ POST

There is no force more powerful in the universe than man's will.
But without a will to evolve his spirit in line with Creation, man’s search for knowledge is futile:

“… to seize dominion over others… they developed a high technology which offered them tremendous opportunities… ,however, they nurtured [this technology] only in hate .. because … they thereby wanted to force Earth under their Gewalt [taking control by violent force] … Through their government, the hatred and pathological craving … was constantly stirred up and driven so far – that in their own ranks – a certain order could only be maintained with … very dreadful punishments. Their single wish, … was to gain control of Earth … [to this end they] taught each individual wicked intrigues and instructed him in the craft of warfare… [this went on for a very long time and made] …) them a hate drenched .. people of a malicious and bestial nature… their leader displayed a bestial nature and coercive might and his scientists predatorily pounced on the earth …”
(Semjase describing the scientists that stirred up the Atlantis cataclysm *)

We know what happened 11,517 years ago:
I write that it does not happen again.

Salome, Bill


"In other words, with what spirit do you declare yourself?
That in conformity with the universal consciousness, the law of love?
Or that of hate, dissension, contention - which brings or produces burdens (upon your fellow human) ...?"
Edgar Cayce


*) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_060
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CLIMATE CHANGE A FURTHER OR MAJOR CAUSE OF EARTHQUAKES, VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS, EARTH GRAVITATIONAL CHANGES

We mentioned that our dying sun (its lessening gravity) may have contributed to the gradual bloating of our planet causing earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and the shift of poles:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85760
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html#POST85836
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html#POST85832

To supplement the topic:
- Billy advises us as well that our world’s many high-rise buildings and large dams exert as well an enormous pressure on earth which cause earthquakes.
- But a much more major reason (and perhaps “the major reason”) for the growing no of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and the change of the gravitational field of Earth is climate change:
As the ice on Earth’s inland glaciers is melting it releases some of the enormous pressure that the weight of the ice exerts on the crust of the Earth. When the melting Arctic/Antarctic ice mixes with the waters of the oceans it slows the run of the ocean currents down. The change in pressure on the Earth crust, due to shifts of the heavy ice and water masses, then leads to severe geological consequences (earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and a change in Earth’s gravitational field) – These changes have as well an effect on outer space: New gravity waves will be forming which rush out into outer space with great speed and create “an outer space gravitational tsunami... *)

The increase of the water masses will as well increase the speed of Earth’s rotation (Earth days will pass faster). The changes will as well negatively effect the mental, psychic and physical state of human beings on our planet…”

The drastic changes due to climate change are, in much more detail, explained by Billy in CR 476 in Special Bulletin 49: www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_49


*) For a possible effect see CR 251:326:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85760
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Media Confusion Re. Planet Nine and Our “Dark” Twin Sun

English scientists may not read or accept Billy’s CR info. Today’s “news” (The Independent):
“Planet Nine is not real but there’s something else strange on the edge of our solar system”

The article suggests that while there is no trace of a ninth planet so far, several scientists have suggested ^) movements of “objects beyond Neptune” could account for a disc “made up of small icy bodies” that put together is as much as 10 times the mass of Earth.

From Billy’s CRs we know that our sun has a dark twin*)
And that there is indeed an ninth planet (“Kathein”) that cannot be seen from Earth because its orbit is behind the sun for many thousands of years **)
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^) The article quotes research results from the Cambridge Dept of Applied Mathematics and Theroetical Physics

*)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544
CR 544 -Ptaah to Billy:
The SOL system is a binary star system, where the SOL twin is a so-called Dark Star, as you say. Its size is about ten times smaller than the SOL itself, whereby this twin also has its own planets orbiting around it, as you have known since 1975. The radius of the Dark Star to the SOL encompasses more than a light-year, therefore, more than 9.5 trillion kilometres, and the circumnavigation of the SOL’s centre of mass, that is to say, SOL's own orbit, amounts to around 26 million years.
German:
Das SOL-System ist ein Doppelstern-System, wobei der SOL-Zwilling ein sogenannter Dunkelstern ist, wie du sagst. Dessen Grösse ist rund zehnmal kleiner als die SOL selbst, wobei dieser Zwilling auch einen eigenen Planeten um sich kreisen hat, wie du seit 1975 weisst. Der Radius des Dunkelsterns zur SOL umfasst mehr als ein Lichtjahr, also mehr als 9,5 Billionen Kilometer, und die Umrundung des SOL-Massezentrums resp. der SOL-eigenen Umlaufbahn beträgt rund 26 Millionen Jahre.

**)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_228

118. Now the only thing still to say is that a big planet, with great speed, on the other side of the Sun, orbits the star and can therefore never be seen from the Earth. 118. Zu sagen ist nun nur noch, dass jenseits der Sonne ein grosser Planet mit grosser Geschwindigkeit das Gestirn umkreist und daher von der Erde aus niemals gesehen werden kann.

119. It deals thereby with an uninhabited planet which we have given the name "Kathein", which, however, will drift out of the solar system in the time to come.


German:
118. Zu sagen ist nun nur noch, dass jenseits der Sonne ein grosser Planet mit grosser Geschwindigkeit das Gestirn umkreist und daher von der Erde aus niemals gesehen werden kann.
119. Es handelt sich dabei um einen unbewohnten Planeten, dem wir den Namen Kathein gegeben haben, der jedoch in kommender Zeit aus dem SOL-System abdriften wird.

NB:

Other newspaper articles had correctly reported a ninth planet but this message is not yet accepted in the mainstream media and schools: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/14182.html#POST77112
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHY KENNETH’S POINT ^) IS VERY RELEVANT

“…When the melting Arctic/Antarctic ice mixes with the waters of the oceans it slows the run of the ocean currents down. The change in pressure on the Earth crust, due to shifts of the heavy ice and water masses, then leads to severe geological consequences (earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and a change in Earth’s gravitational field) – These changes have as well an effect on outer space: New gravity waves will be forming which rush out into outer space with great speed and create “an outer space gravitational tsunami...”

According to several newspaper reports (Guardian / Life Science / Financial Times etc.):

- On Jan 15, 2019, researchers announced that the Eastern Antarctic Ice Shelf – previously thought to be stable or even growing – is actually melting alarmingly fast. IPCC’s *) projections (which are very conservative) predict that sea levels will rise by 1 m by the end of our century.
But they ignore the potential contribution of East Antarctica – but this eastern sheet it has now been found – is not stable at all but contributes 30 % of Antarctica's input to world’s sea level rise.

- On Jan 21, 2019 researchers announced that SW Greenland where ice was supposed to be safe – is dumping much more meltwater into the ocean than previously thought. It is not only that satellite data tell us that Greenland (betw. 2002 and 2016) lost ca. 280 giga (280 billion) tons of water but that the melting is accelerated at a much faster rate:
By 2012 ice was being lost at a rate 4 times faster than in 2003.
By 2030 all Arctic ice may be gone.

CONCLUSION
Because of climate change great masses of heavy ice and water are “shifted”.
Acc. to Billy (CR 476) this should have drastic geological consequences – i.e. tectonic movements, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and changes in the Earth gravitational field:
“… gravity waves will be forming and rush out into outer space with great speed” creating “an outer space gravitational tsunami...”

NB
There is a oneness between man's mind (thought), his body and his environment:
Billy tells us that the effects we witness on the outside go hand in hand with the changes in the anatomy of the human brain:
Through the climate changes many humans will become more and more brutal, cold-hearted thinkers, with an absence of conscience, increasing their anxieties and sentiments of loss which they try to compensate with an increased hunger / addiction for pleasure (incl. alcohol, drugs etc.) … more and more will suffer from depressions which for many humans will become a chronic state.
Details see (Billy) in CR 476 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_49
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^) See forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/3833.html#POST85860

*) IPCC = Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a UN body which evaluates climate change patterns.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To give an idea of the gravitational changes (“gravitational tsunami”) of the melting Arctic / Antarctic ice sheets:
If the Greenland ice shelf would completely melt the land under it would rebound ca 2000 feet (ca. 610 m)
Not quite sure how much Antarctic land mass would rebound – but it would certainly rebound more than the Greenland ice shelf as its area and thickness are much larger.
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Borthwey
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Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2019 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi. Can anyone make any sense of this? From contact 260.

“cooking with microwaves is totally harmless, if the ovens are constructed in such a way that they are only heated up by the microwaves, and indeed, from the outside; consequently, no waves can reach into the actual cooking item.”

“So for this, completely closed cooking containers are necessary, which don’t allow microwaves into the interior and into the cooking item.”

Two things I don’t get. 1: How are the foods cooked if no microwaves reach them? There is no thermal transmission of energy through the air or through containers. The energy is transmitted to the foods precisely through the microwaves.
2: I can imagine a closed cooking container into which the food could be placed (though I don’t know what difference this would make), but how could this be a part of the microwave itself? The microwave compartment is of course closed to the outside, but this compartment is receiving the microwaves, it’s not closed to them. The microwaves enter the container, bounce off the metallic walls and are only absorbed by any water molecules within the container. The same thing happens if there is closed recipient within this container. The recipient does not absorb the microwaves, nor does it reflect them. Only the water molecules of the food inside will absorb them.
Overall this makes no sense at all to me.


"First, you said that using microwaves to cook is harmful, but here, you said that cooking with these waves is not harmful. How should we understand this now?
Ptaah:
60. It seems that I did, indeed, express myself unclearly at that time.
61. The facts are as follows:
62. Cooking with microwaves is actually extremely dangerous, but only in the sense when the food comes into direct contact with the microwaves, so thus, if the food is directly irradiated with microwaves.
63. Once this happens, transformation processes, which it also always concerns, take place in the food, through which partially poisonous and hazardous substances emerge, through which humans can be harmed in many different ways and, in fact, also are harmed, as I must rightly say.
64. Due to the direct irradiation of food with microwaves, the cooking item succumbs to a transformation, through which health-hazardous substances develop.
65. But otherwise, this isn’t the case, and cooking with microwaves is totally harmless, if the ovens are constructed in such a way that they are only heated up by the microwaves, and indeed, from the outside; consequently, no waves can reach into the actual cooking item.
66. So for this, completely closed cooking containers are necessary, which don’t allow microwaves into the interior and into the cooking item.
67. The microwave oven itself must, of course, also be constructed in such a way that no waves can penetrate out of it, so that the surroundings or humans aren’t encountered by them."

"Erst sagtest du, dass mit Mikrowellen zu kochen schädlich sei, hier aber sagtest du, dass das Kochen mit diesen Wellen unschädlich sei. Wie sollen wir das nun verstehen?
Ptaah:
60. Es scheint, dass ich mich damals wirklich unklar ausgedrückt habe.
61. Der Sachverhalt ist folgender:
62. Das Kochen mit Mikrowellen ist tatsächlich äusserst schädlich, jedoch nur in dem Sinn, wenn die Speisen in direkten Kontakt mit den Mikrowellen kommen, so also, wenn die Speisen direkt mit Mikrowellen bestrahlt werden.
63. Geschieht dies nämlich, dann finden in den Speisen, um welche es sich auch immer handelt, Veränderungsprozesse statt, durch die teilweise giftige und gefährliche Stoffe entstehen, durch die der Mensch in verschiedensten Formen geschädigt werden kann und auch tatsächlich geschädigt wird, wie ich richtigerweise sagen muss.
64. Durch das direkte Bestrahlen von Speisen mit Mikrowellen, verfällt das Kochgut also einer Umwandlung, bei der gesundheitsschädliche Stoffe entstehen.
65. Anderweitig ist dies jedoch nicht der Fall und das Kochen mit Mikrowellen völlig ungefährlich, wenn die Kochgeräte derart konstruiert sind, dass sie durch die Mikrowellen nur erhitzt werden, und zwar von aussen, folglich keine Wellen in das eigentliche Kochgut gelangen können.
66. Also sind hierzu rundum abgeschlossene Kochbehältnisse erforderlich, die keine Mikrowellen in das Innere und ins Kochgut hineinlassen.
67. Der Mikrowellenherd selbst muss natürlich auch derart konstruiert sein, dass keine Wellen aus ihm ausdringen können, damit nicht die Umgebung oder Menschen davon getroffen werden."

David
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Hoota_thunk
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Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2019 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'Day David,
Ptaah says, "... if the ovens are constructed in such a way that they are only heated up by the microwaves, and indeed, from the outside ...".
I think he means that the interior cooking compartment of the oven is heated up by microwaves and the food is cooked by said heat.
Those crazy extraterrestrials and their advanced cooking appliances!
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Eddieamartin
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Borthway

The microwave ovens that have no holes in them heat/cook the food just like a convection oven.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Borthwey
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Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eddie. You mean existing microwave ovens? Do they have a name?
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Hoota_thunk
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G'Day David, me again!
This got me to thinking about food irradiation as carried out by 50 countries, I was told by the internet, of which mine, Australia, is one. Apparently, it is done by using Gamma Rays from Cobalt and/or Cesium 137, X-Rays or Electron beams, per the FDA. Which brings me to my concern of what Ptaah also said,
"63. Once this happens, transformation processes, which it also always concerns, take place in the food, through which partially poisonous and hazardous substances emerge, through which humans can be harmed in many different ways and, in fact, also are harmed, as I must rightly say.
64. Due to the direct irradiation of food with microwaves, the cooking item succumbs to a transformation, through which health-hazardous substances develop."
Are irradiated foods from the above mentioned methods as dangerous as microwaved food? We already have the dangers of Soy being in nearly all processed/packaged food; insecticides, herbicides & fungicides; Flint, Michigan style water etc... all a result of the god of all gods, the almighty dollar caused by lesser gods and tin gods and that pesky little taboo topic, overpopulation.
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Eddieamartin
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Borthwey

There are two microwaves in the market. Those with holes and those with no holes.

The microwaves that have no holes inside heat food identical to a convection oven. These are the safe ones.

Different manufacturers make them.
Just open their doors and see if there are any holes on the walls (these you want to avoid).
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Scott
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Please lets get back to the topic, Thanks
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Niko_sulonen
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One thing to note is that Ptaah is specifically talking about the effects of cooking the food in a microwave oven, not heating already cooked food. I guess that's obvious but just wanted to point it out for clarity's sake.

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi,

Earlier you said, “The increase of the water masses will as well increase the speed of Earth’s rotation (Earth days will pass faster).” I did not follow that rational as the Earth will not spin faster when the waters around the Equator accumulate, making the Earth wider.

Then you said, “If the Greenland ice shelf would completely melt the land under it would rebound ca 2,000 feet (ca. 610 m). Not quite sure how much Antarctic land mass would rebound – but it would certainly rebound more than the Greenland ice shelf as its area and thickness are much larger.”

Now that makes sense. If the landmasses rebound near the poles, then it appears that the Earth will spin faster. Think of an ice figure skater’s spin, and pulling in their arms.

Good information
Thank you
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Hi Kenneth,

-My wording [re the effect on Earth rotation due to the increase in water masses] was taken from Billy’s finding:
He clearly said that the “entirety of the enormous increase of the masses of water” will cause Earth’s “to turn faster” “altering the length of days… “ *)

-The 2000 feet (ca. 610 m) rebound of Greenland (should all its glaciers melt) is from the book “Glaciers” of the Time-Life Book Series about Planet Earth. Billy mentioned that the Earth will rebound once the Arctic/Antarctic ice caps are removed from the polar regions**). He did not mention a correlation to Earth’s rotation, though…

… But maybe his wording “entirety of the enormous increase of the masses of water” may have somewhat inferred this pressure release.

Salome, Bill

*) [Billy] "..The entirety of the enormous increase of the masses of water in the seas still leads, however, to a further evil effect, because they influence the Earth's rotation, and indeed such that the planet begins to turn faster and an alteration of the length of the days is evoked.

**) [Billy] “… The gigantic ice expanses of Greenland, of both poles and of the inland glaciers of all countries, press, with many billions of tonnes of weight, on the lower stratum which is pressed deep into the crust of the Earth and in which powerful consolidation results.
If the gigantic masses of ice now melt, then the pressure on the lower stratum diminishes, consequently this very quickly moves again towards the surface and the reduction of tension thereby leads to the disappearance of the consolidation.
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BTW - Estimated weight of the 2 icecaps: 30 trillion tonnes

GERMAN:
*) Das Ganze der ungeheuren Zunahme der Wassermassen in den Meeren führt aber zu einer noch anderen bösen Wirkung, denn sie beeinflussen die Rotation der Erde, und zwar in der Weise, dass sich der Planet schneller zu drehen beginnt und eine Tageszeitveränderung hervorgerufen wird.
**)
Die gigantischen Eisflächen Grönlands, der beiden Pole und der Inlandgletscher aller Länder drücken mit vielen Milliarden Tonnen Gewicht auf den Untergrund, der tief in die Erdkruste hineingedrückt wird und in der mächtige Vertiefungen entstanden sind.
Schmelzen nun die gigantischen Eismassen, dann schwindet der Druck auf den Untergrund, folglich dieser sich sehr schnell wieder nach oben bewegt und die Entspannung dazu führt, dass die Vertiefung verschwindet.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_49 (a little more than 1/3 down the article)

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(Edgar Cayce - from a reading in 1932): "How soon will the changes in the Earth's activity begin to be apparent?"

"When there is the first breaking up in the South Sea [=South Pacific] to be sure and those in the sinking or arising of that which is almost opposite to it, or in the Mediterannean and the Aetna area. Then we may know it has begun... The greater change, as we will find, in America, will be in the North Atlantic Seabord. Watch New York!"
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Quinn
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Today I watched a documentary film regarding Giza Pyramid, which reminded me of a contact report saying the evil aliens occupying it for almost a thousand years before people of Ptaah erased them.
A few questions rose in my mind that how the evil aliens could be able to hide in the Pyramid for so long without being found and how their UFO got in and out of the Pyramid without any entrance big enough to get through. And where did they park that UFO? From some narrow channel people can enter into the chamber inside the Pyramid. There must be some more chambers, big ones, unfound yet but blocked by Ptaah later. Yet, how did an UFO fly in and out? If there is any answer somewhere, can someone please point out for me?
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Eddieamartin
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Quinn

The ufo could easily have been teleported itself beneath the pyramid.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Quinn,

When Asket from DAL Universe took Billy on a field trip so to say into the Great Pyramid; if you recall Asket made one of the gigantic stones dissolves into nothingness, the both of them walked through the new opening, the large stone reappeared again, closing off the entrance.

The Giza-Intelligences could also have had the same technology to create an opening in solid stone or even a section of Earth itself. Another possibility, the Bafath may have had the technology to teleport into a different dimension out from below the Pyramid?

We cannot renationalize using today’s technology with beings that were thousands of years more advanced than we are today.

Kenneth
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Hugo
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Quinn, I'm guessing the Giza intelligence's had the same technology to temporarily dissolve solid walls that Asket used when she took Billy there to see the UFO craft. They likely also had invisible technology so no one could see the craft when they took it out.
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Quinn
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Thank you Eddie, Kenneth and Hugo. So most likely it was that super advanced tech Bafath possessed had done all the tricks.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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MT ULURU ...

In aboriginal language Ayers Rock is called Mt. Uluru (Ul=Shadow + Yulara = crying, wailing).
The Aborigines see it as a mystical place where the the bodies of their ancestors hardened in rock giving rise to much of their “Dreaming”. But though they have many sacred sites there (esp. around its periphery) only little is known about its origin:
Aboriginal songs tell us that the 106 m high rock (which truly dominates the landscape) was created in “Dreamtime”, an era before time. During this time mystical beings, through their actions and adventures, created the world.
Aboriginals would see the landforms they see today as a “visible evidence that these ancestral beings still exist” and that it was “two boys playing in the mud” that created Mt. Uluru.

“Wanyu Uluranya tatintya wiyanku wantima”, visitors should not climb it.
They should “simply listen to everything”.

My Conclusion:
For Aborigines Mt. Uluru may embody a kind of ancestor worship, honouring their most ancient ancestors that created the world they live in today. But maybe they see it as well as a meditative place “to listen to nature”, to sense their oneness with all that exists - past and present.
In this latter sense it somewhat reminds me of Semjase describing a creative-spiritual human to Billy in CR 10:

191. But when the human identifies himself with everything in the universe, no hate and no greed may dwell within him anymore, because he makes no more selfish differences.
191. He has just become one with the essence in everything.
192. Other people may claim something as their exclusive property, but he who thinks spiritually identifies it [= that something which is his exclusive property] with the truth within and, therefore, owns everything internally.

German
190. Hat der Mensch aber sich mit allem im Universum identifiziert, kann kein Hass und keine Gier mehr in ihm wohnen, denn er macht keine selbstsüchtigen Unterschiede mehr.
191. Er ist ja eins geworden mit dem Wesen in allem.
192. Andere mögen etwas als ihr ausschliessliches Eigentum beanspruchen, der Geistigdenkende aber identifiziert es mit der Wahrheit darin und hat daher alles innerlich zu eigen.

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Quinn
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Registered: 09-2012
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2019 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All - In CR188, there are some words saying about a penalty from High Councel, which is to restrict centain things to take place in someone's next incarnation. No doubt to say, High Councel possesses omnipotence we are unable to imagine, namely it can make anything happen or unhappen in anyone's any incarnation. I also understand such intevention only appears under extreme circumstance. However, I just cant shake the feeling there is something not right about this, and somehow I cant really physically tell what kind of the feeling it is. What's more, it also reminds me that almost all religions tell that a fallible person is bound to go to hell after death / in next incarnation.
Can someone share your thought about it?

Here is the excerpts in English:
11. Next, I have to tell you that now, despite everything, a penalty remains in force, as it was recommended by the advice of the High Counsel, which is that for seven successive incarnations, no contacts will take place with the group community – so these lives to be experienced would be among other people and other conditions – if an exclusion from the group must occur due to malicious offenses or if a group member excludes himself or allows himself to be excluded through betrayal and mission-destructive acts and, thus, through his own initiative in this respect.

in German:
11. Weiter habe ich dir zu erklären, dass nun trotz allem eine Sanktion in Kraft bleibt, wie es durch den Hohen Rat ratgebend empfohlen wurde, nämlich dass während sieben aufeinanderfolgenden Inkarnationen keinerlei Kontakte zur Gruppengemeinschaft stattfinden, folglich diese Leben unter anderen Völkern und Verhältnissen durchlebt werden sollen, wenn durch bösartige Verstösse ein Ausschlussaus der Gruppe erfolgen muss oder wenn ein Gruppenglied sich durch Verrat und missionszerstörerisch und also durch einen diesbezüglich eigenen Entschluss ausschliesst oder ausschliessen lässt.
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Christian
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2019 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Quinn,
This information had to do with the "Kodex", which in the 1990ies has ceased to exist = is not in effect anymore (and will never be installed or exist again). It has been a one-time-only "issue".
Btw: No questions about the Kodex will be answered!

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