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    Justsayno Member Post Number: 380 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Indi & Scott, I was wondering if I could post this quote from a question to Billy that you so generously provided for me at a time when I was searching for answers on things that didn't make sense to me. And please Rod share what you know about elementals. Reader question What exactly are Elemental / witches in the 98th Contact 30.12.1977 addressed by Quetzal? In whatever form they exist on Earth, as they look, they are more human or more animals as they live and their origin are they? N.L. / Germany Reply Elemental creatures are tiny human life forms and natural beings or nature spirits are called, so in earlier times but also witches (the term witch was modified later and a little used, which it does not correspond to = see witches in religious and wahngläubigem sense = Inquisition, etc .). These natural beings that are much smaller than dwarfs exist, in a moved to our space-time dimension structure, from which she now and then change into our dimension. These beings are extremely feinstsensibel with respect to the vibration sensitivity, therefore they usually can be seen from the non-earth people, because these beings keep away from him. Nevertheless, however, it is possible for individuals to be able to watch these creatures of nature, but this is only the case if the people, respectively. prevail in his thinking and feeling and in his actions and thus also in the psyche of a relatively perfect balance and harmony. Leserfrage Was genau sind Elementarwesen/Hexen, die im 98. Kontakt vom 30.12.1977 von Quetzal angesprochen werden? In welcher Form existieren sie auf der Erde, wie sehen sie aus, sind sie eher Menschen oder eher Tiere, wie leben sie und welchen Ursprungs sind sie? N.L./Deutschland Antwort Elementarwesen sind kleine menschliche Lebensformen, die auch Naturwesen oder Naturgeister genannt werden, so zu früheren Zeiten aber auch Hexen (der Begriff Hexen wurde später abgewandelt und zu etwas gestempelt, dem er in keiner Weise entspricht = siehe Hexen in religiösem und wahngläubigem Sinn = Inquisition usw.). Diese Naturwesen, die viel kleiner als Zwerge sind, existieren in einer zu unserem Raum-Zeit-Gefüge verschobenen Dimension, aus der heraus sie hie und da in unsere Dimension hineinwechseln. Diese Wesen sind äusserst feinstsensibel in bezug auf die Schwingungsempfindlichkeit, folglich sie in der Regel vom Erdenmenschen nicht gesehen werden können, weil sich diese Wesen von ihm fernhalten. Nichtsdestoweniger jedoch besteht die Möglichkeit für einzelne Menschen, diese Naturwesen beobachten zu können, was jedoch nur dann der Fall ist, wenn im Menschen resp. in seinem Denken und Fühlen sowie in seinem Handeln und somit auch in der Psyche eine relativ vollkommene Ausgeglichenheit und Harmonie herrschen. Billy Edit by Jacob moved to Misc. Discussions on The Spiritual Teaching (Message edited by jacob on June 09, 2011) Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 569 Registered: 03-2007 |
* Please note this is a continuation of a discussion string originally started under the heading, “The Spirit, Spirit Forms and the Psyche.” Jun: “…can the individual control/counter the inadequate level of the energy you mentioned on his own and how?” Yes. You might first try meditation sans clothing and see if this is beneficial for you. Billy describes the process in Introduction to Meditation under a section he calls Ablegen der Kleidung (Cast off the clothing) starting on page 229. It is recommended to leave your outer clothing in an adjacent room away from your meditative space so you will not be influenced by any fluidal forces they might contain. This would also apply to any jewelry or watches, etc. if they do not consist of pure precious stones or precious metals. It is further advisable at the end of such a meditative session to not sit up or get up from a reclining session too suddenly because the forces that are newly available in the body may cause you to be dizzy, lose your balance and fall depending on your physical constitution. Instead, remain quietly still for one minute for your body to adjust. Keep in mind too, that the thicker the clothes of the person are, the more these fluidal forces are absorbed. This is verifiable when the person notices, for example, when they go swimming outside wearing only a small bathing suit that the body is much freer and guarantees a much better force exchange. Billy also describes a laying type of meditation with the head pointed north and the legs south holding the body quite level and the arms and hands level with the body to the side, much like "the Bosom of Abraham" and is very similar to a lying meditation described in The Emerald Tablets by Hermes Trismegistus (or Thoth, the Atlantean), so it is a very old technique. This technique aligns the body’s magnetic field with the natural magnetic currents of the earth. Billy also recommends sleeping in this alignment whenever possible. (pages 232-234). Jun: “Where can it be found in the materials in English? Suggested key words for searching will be very much appreciated.” Unfortunately there is not a lot of information written by Billy that is translated into English on that subject but if you are technologically savvy, and you seem to be, you might try reading the research done by Wilhelm Reich who investigated the same cosmic electromagnetic life energy that Billy describes and called it orgone. I have found that there are a lot of similarities in their descriptions including the light bluish color which Reich claims to have isolated and photographed. Reich’s research regarding orgone was unfortunately cut short as certain government agencies confiscated his research notes and threw Reich in jail where he came to an untimely death. However, there are some good translations of Reich’s books from the German into English that are available today as a result of a renewed interest in Reich’s work especially as it applies to orgone accumulators and the human body. I myself have been using an orgone blanket for years and experienced positive results. I have even experienced the light headed feeling that comes from meditation without clothing. Orgone blankets are easy to make or purchase on the internet. But these are my own anecdotal observations and I am not making any definitive claims. Everyone must do their own research and decide for themselves. If anyone else has made any similar investigations or observations comparing Reich’s orgone and the cosmic electromagnetic life energy as described in the Meir material, either pro or con, I would love to hear them. Regards Bob | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hi Bob, thank you for the prompt reply. Jun My will be done | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 546 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey there bob, if i may share some personal insights with you and others. i myself prefer to meditate before going to bed. i have my bed positioned north/south head/feet. since i share my living space with family, it is not easy for me to keep clothing in seperate rooms, or be naked whenever i wish to meditate (thus another reason i favour before bedtime, to meditate). following billy's no clothing advice, as i was curious as to what results would arise, i have noticed the following... since going to bed nude, i feel much more "free". i am sensitive to energies of various sorts so to speak, and quickly noticed the difference in my body and around it. it is much more comfterble. i also sleep better when nude (i dont have eradic sleep patterns of waking in the middle of the night, sweating etc). as a direct result of sleeping nude, i feel more rested when i awake, my sense of well being is much more pronounced and i just feel very clear minded and energized. i recomend sleeping nude and also the laying down form of meditation, which i have favoured from day 1. i also found that since i have been sleeping and meditating using head to the north and feet toward south, i have more focussed and clearly expressed experiences regarding the psyche, dreams, visions etc. i used to sleep head south, feet north, and as a result i have had many interesting phenomena happen, but it was very mixed and jumbled together, very erratic and unpredictable. by laying head north, and feet south... i experience these same phenomena, yet very stable and in line with my own intentions rather than just happening out of nowher, to my suprise. hopefully my shared info will be of help to people. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 01-2011 |
This was in reaction to the Meier material that I had sent to Harley. He has been a constant challenge for me in some respects, so help me out friends!  SALOME 7/19/11 Reply ▼Reply Reply all Forward Delete Mark as unread Mark as read Delete all from sender Print message View message source Show message history Hide message history Show details Hide details Derick Lee Derick Leedjlee6999@hotmail.com Change picture View profileTo harleyborgais@gmail.com From: Derick Lee (djlee6999@hotmail.com) Sent: Tue 7/19/11 9:57 AM To: harleyborgais@gmail.com Derrick: Hey Harley, I would like to forward your email to the figu forum...would that be ok? I don't know if you understand the difference between TRUTH and BELIEF. They are two different things. Belief and belief systems do not provide conclusive answers and drive humanity into blind acceptance, subservience, religious delusion and many other misunderstandings. Truth, on the other hand has the same ring a million miles away. It is forever constant and never needs revision. The only requirement to attain the truth is your ability to recognize it. Yes! there were many prophets that brought the truth to the earth people from which many religious cults sprang up But that is because man in his greed and lust for power, took the truth and changed it to his liking which in turn kept people in the dark with only their blind faith and belief in Gods who were actually just humans who were self proclaimed gods, saints,kings,anointed ones etc. There is no truth except for the one that actually exists. (Billy Meier) There is no god higher higher than the truth. (Albert Einstein) As far as debating and competing...I study the teachings of truth...truth cannot be debated... and as far as competition is concerned, I share these teachings with others who are open and you cannot compete with the truth having just a large variety of beliefs. Any attempt to compete with truth with a belief system is a folly and a far cry from a true understanding. I would suggest researching Billy and the teachings in greater length before you try to compete. Regards Derrick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:18:13 -0700 Subject: Re: open mind only From: harleyborgais@gmail.com To: djlee6999@hotmail.com Harley: Working on what you sent me, taking quotes to comment on, more interested in billys own words though. Especially focusing on truths, which is facts, or evidence, which my work is based on. You see, I think that the mind is the same is the soul, except the human mind has creativity, which gives us free will, or control over our fate, and animals lack the complexity for that. By the same logic that explains what an atom is, where it came from, how a stable atom can live indefinitely, and how the human mind works.... I have actually figured out what God is, where God came from, and what the true nature of God is. My theory can explain all the mysteries that billy attempts to, but better. If I am right, and you keep giving me the right things to read, then I will be able to prove what is true. I think that higher state of consciousness that many people can sense is coming relates to this understanding, and how the intereference of waves created not only the first consciousness before there was physical matter (That is God), but also intereference of waves explains how all magic was done in the past, how all supernatural things occur, and how to do anything, or construct anything you can imagine. This is the new consciousness, where people not only become in control of the very forces of Nature through EM wave interference... but also Humans learn the true purpose (meaning) of life, which is to develop a vessel through which enlightened souls can experience physical existence, and it is our job to make this world better, and more like heaven. Doing good works and believing in a creator of the universe is generally the way to heaven. My work does not contradict, but explains and unites all major beliefs. The thing Billy is missing is that all major beliefs came from something, and it had to be more significant than a story to become a major belief in the first place. That is why Jesus had to go through that, to jump start the belief in a creator of physical existence. He just does not interfere much because our purpose has always been to learn to be more than self sufficient, but to subdue the earth and make Earth as perfect and harmonious as Heaven. | ||
Jacob Moderator Post Number: 716 Registered: 01-2004 |
Derrick, This person is mixes up cult-relgious beliefs, new age assumptions, he even claims that he has a Theory of Everything and figured out what God is. A sign of a delusional consciousness. Really take my other post about chatter and trying to convince others in consideration. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 255 Registered: 08-2010 |
I quote him below Derrick, "My work does not contradict, but explains and unites all major beliefs." His own words confirm Jacob's post (#716). = = = = = = = Derrick, regarding your post (#62) Your email to him is comprised of your own cognitions. If you must say this to them...then they are not ready (as is evidenced now). You and I are better served and profitable heeding Jacob's suggestion (post#715). Salome friend, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hey Jacob and Eddieamartin, After being bombarded by emails trying to convince me of his so called theories, I began to think he was unreachable myself. My appologies. It's a shame that delusional belief has poisoned people so deeply. I guess I learned something here. Thanks very much for taking the time and energy. Salome,Derrick Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Jacob Moderator Post Number: 717 Registered: 01-2004 |
Hello Derrick, No problem, lesson learned. I can understand your enthusiasm, however its best to open your own eyes, before trying to open the eyes of others so to speak. We are all in the process of doing that. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 256 Registered: 08-2010 |
"Lesson Learned...Wisdom Earned" Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2011 |
"Lesson Learned...Wisdom Earned" Yes indeed. Yes indeed. Thanks again. Just so you guys know, I sent this person many texts from contact notes etc, but he picked them apart with what he thought was true to his belief. Sometimes I let my optimism get the best of me. Salome Derrick | ||
Jacob Moderator Post Number: 723 Registered: 01-2004 |
The silent revolution of Truth - The mothers of the future Women in general perform better in schools, universities, on the work floor already then men do in many cases, even when this is denied by many. The current generation of women and the next will lay the foundation for the women of the future, who will take leadership. They will need to overcome misconceptions and the same mistakes as their male counterparts before the true mothers of the future can rise up. This leadership will bring forth a new generations of women and men who are educated and raised in a way according to the natural-creative laws and recommendations. When seen from a larger perspective, the leadership of women will last a relatively long time to make sure that logic, love, understanding and true knowledge will be the rule on this planet. This is also needed because the erroneous, egotistical, unbalanced-dominant, overbearing, illogical behavior of men has been stored in the storage-banks for many of thousands of years and begins to hit the new generations of men again, thats why women will have a long reign until those impulses are eradicated in a natural way. Then after several generations of men who are educated in the natural-creative laws and recommendations will cause those impulses to become less and less until a normal-balanced situation occurs and both men and women can be truly equal in natural-creative ways. I am mentioning the male gender specifically, because they need re-education the most, not the women in overall, of course this is spoken in general. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Andyv24 Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 08-2010 |
For lack of a suitable place to post this... I am in need of some comfort and counsel like I never have been. I realize this is likely not the place to whine or unburden oneself, to work out own's own emotional problems... but, moderators, surely if there is some wisdom offered in response, it could be of use to others who, god forbid, find themselves in a similar situation. Here it goes. I, over the last few days, have lost my lover, my best friend, my roomate. Yes, all the same person. After 4 years, good years in my estimation, she has lost interest and found romance elsewhere. Damn, some kinda hurt... Apparently I've lived a rather charmed life, for this surely seems the most difficult thing I have ever had to overcome. I dont want to give up hope, I dont want to move on, I am still wanting to beleive we can be together yet... but, from what she says, it seems a lost cause. I have just begun reading the Goblet of Truth, it is made mention in the forward that there is teaching on this subject of seperation. I have not yet found the relevant passages. Please, if anyone can offer some words of wisdom, whether from this book or elsewhere, it would be thorougly appreciated. "Many fish in the sea..." I am aware, please, any other insights beyond this, again, would be much appreciated. (I am young, 24, for further clarification of the situation). Hope all are doing better than I! Thank you. Andy (Message edited by scott on December 26, 2012) | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dear Andyv24, Your best bet right now is to find a support group in your local area. Believe it or not there are a lot of others out there with the same situation and problems that you also have. You need a group atmosphere that you feel comfortable with that is setup to Round Robin everyone's feelings and able to allow interaction in order to bring about a mutual solution for the overall group in a calm nurturing atmosphere under the supervision of a credited counselor. However be prepared to hear that which you do not want to hear because others can easily identify problems and their solutions for others quicker than can their own. It can be quite an emotional ride but so long as you stick with it, it should even out for you later on to your own benefit. Sometimes this path doesn't always guarantee success right away but it will motivate you to look at yourself as others truly see you. And give you options to do better in a controlled situation! "Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new." | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 264 Registered: 08-2010 |
Andyv24 (#14) Hello Andy, take a look at this YouTube link video...it may have an answer you're looking for...at least an explanation or insight you may not have been aware of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt6s-rGXi9w Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 582 Registered: 05-2008 |
Andy, You know how many of us have walked in your current shoes? How many have had their dreams dashed? Wait till you come out the other side; you just may view it as a huge learning experience and one of the best things to ever or never happen to you. We're here to learn, Brother. Billy wrote an essay titled "Ideas of Partnership". Have a look-see. Regards, Bruce https://doc-08-94-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/fjmbqsrtlbmq791ki1lrq1dgkor05euu/5g4fbn6cbf94asfkr8b49bsolhj9to1u/1313770500000/09986255073298372910/00703434023604356277/0BxbC5iJWp1xpMDJhNGU3MzctOWY0OC00ZmU1LWIzNzEtZTdkNDk5MWE5YTY1?nonce=mh7u6lhoc5dbi&user=00703434023604356277&hash=l8go7fojl3u7p4fai7pn3fql3ucn5l6p | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 265 Registered: 08-2010 |
The link is dead. [7:-) | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 689 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Andy ; All is not lost . You are still young . Try to understand that the design of things has many opportunities to meet , socialize and bed many women , or just one ... at a time . I know that this might seem crass to you , because I don't know you , but I know my own history , and when you were born a Lion , you were born to Growl . This is actually what you need instead of feeling like a heartbroken schoolgirl . Go get , 'em , and remember , a bite on the neck is just a figure of speech ; you might get arrested for acting like an actual Lion . Cheers , MC | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 583 Registered: 05-2008 |
Sorry, try this: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Ideas_of_Partnership . | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 658 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Andy do not forget to give yourself enough value, enough credit. In some relationships we give more value, more credit to our partner than to ourselves. In my opinion that's wrong, because we develop a certain dependency upon others, be it a partner, a friend, a loved person....Do never forget to conveniently nourish your self-esteem so that you do not are too dependant on others. According to the spirit teaching, and according to reality as well, the most precious entity that you must value is your own spirit, and not other human beings. People can be absolutely happy being lonely and single. Of course having a partner can be much better and gratifying, but in the end what matters is that YOU care more for yourself than for your partner. One chapter of your life may have ended (or not), and in that case it is time to begin a new chapter, a new episode. Also, check out Meier's definition of LOVE. It has nothing to do with passion or infatuation..... Take care, best wishes. | ||
Andyv24 Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 08-2010 |
Thanks a lot everyone. Yeah, Mark, rereading my last post... see how pathetic I sounded. Going to check out those links now. Really, thanks a lot folks. Love this forum... Andy | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2011 |
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.-[Buddha] "Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new." | ||
Mac Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 06-2011 |
We know already of the coded impulses we receive from certain books (spiritual teachings) written by Billy in the German language only. I think I'm correct when I say that the books - OM, GoT and the TJ, each contain the code. I understand that a reader can THINK or speak aloud the words of these books so as to receive the impulses. Billy has written many other books, as I've seen on FIGUs webshop. Do many of these also contain codes?? If one were to listen to the words of these coded books by another person speaking them (this includes voice translator software) would the listener still receive the impulses?? |
