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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - 12:55 am: | 
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Thank you so much Phi_spiral. This could help my understanding. You chose your handle well.
Blast you w/ my double-barrel love spiral! POW!
I’m just playing...
So the DERN, ANKAR, DAL, ect Universe are superimposed on each other.
The diagram is your own, correct?
I’m reading this first so I have more intelligent questions to posit. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Creation
Mevtch,
F.e.
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 721
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - 06:30 am: |
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Dern is a twin with Dal Creation
both are a whole Creation/Universe
Salome
ilobebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2021 - 07:27 pm: |
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As I sit in my Invisible Garment, munching Spirit-Energy Flakes...I kid.
So the “solid state Universe” consists of positive 3rd belt Ur-space...the 4th “Material” belt, and the negative 5th belt, the transformation belt.
Course matter, material, mass. Anything that has volume/space is relegated to the 4th belt.
6th Creational belt has fine-matter energies, then go on onto the 5th Transformation belt as material-energy (light, photons?) and sound (phonons?). Chronons form then become tachyons.
Background Radiation, as in x-rays, are in 3rd Ur-Space belt; Leading into the 2rd belt, the Ur-Core.
Central-Core, where the big-bang originated is the Idea-Core that Radiates CELE to everything else in Creation.
Cosmic electromagnetic-life energy is not Absolute Absolutum. CELE is blue to people sensitive enough to see it; Odic energy. Absolutes Absolutum p. 4 of the sjmballjn book...it permeates all the universe. P. 10 SIEN Absolutum correspond to the Central-Core?
I read, not from Billy, that Cosmic rays are in part anti-matter.
So the 6th belt, the Creative-Expansion belt is the only belt that though the double-barrel spiral is transferred though the Central-Core, which then feeds CELE into the rest of Creation?
Saukmuch Lyman,
F.e.
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1397
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - 11:01 am: |
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To Study, or Not To Study
Answers by Christian Frehner
1. As Ptaah explained; A sense of belonging to the mission is a form of remembering: For those who feel a sense of belonging to the mission, as explained by Ptaah, what does BEAM and/or the Plejaren advise, that these ones should consider in regards to the teaching of the prophets, as to how/why the arduous study would be helpful and empowering in order to be most effective and in harmony with the FIGU mission until year 3999?
There's a basic "message" or answer: Anyone who has found the "teaching of the prophets" should study and implement it in his/her everyday life. By doing this, the main meaning and purpose of the teaching is fulfilled. As a side effect, the chance is increased that a next personality will find access again to this teaching.
2. What is to be said to these ones to help them understand the importance of the teaching of the prophets and the importance of the cultivation of said teaching, that would empower them to be most effective in their efforts to be helpful and impactful towards the success of the FIGU mission until year 3999?
Most helpful is when more and more people who have found the "teaching of the prophets" act as answered above.
3. Besides their personal evolution of the consciousness, how should these ones consider the teaching of the prophets, in the sense of consciousness evolution as it would empower them with the necessary factors to be effective at addressing and providing a 'counter balance' (explained in Might Of The Thoughts) in order to be instructive and effective for the elimination of religiosity based Ausartung, until the year 3999?
Here the same answer applies.
4. Is there any additional considerations, thoughts and words from BEAM and Ishwish Ptaah, as Earth's Ishwish, as council, encouragement and advice for all those interested in being helpful to the FIGU mission, that he feels is of importance, that he may share with these ones... especially since Ptaah will leave Earth in 2029 and we will no longer have access to his love, knowledge and wisdom?
Actually so much has been said and provided by Ptaah and BEAM that there's enough "food for evolution" available for the next millions of years.
5. Can a little more detail please be given as to their lives after the year 3999, as new personalities in more evolved cultures and worlds?
As you could read in the latest contact report (778), those who are aware of the reality and free of religious delusion, enabled by studying the "teaching of the prophets", and who are living in line with that teaching in 2000 years from now, will be confronted with the choice of leaving planet Earth for good. The beginning of that process has started now, officially since 1975.
Salome,
Christian
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Schantz
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Post Number: 359
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - 12:09 pm: |
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Eddie,
Thanks for sharing with this forum. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1398
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - 01:05 pm: |
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Schantz, my pleasure.
You're welcome.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1360
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - 06:17 pm: |
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Hi Eddie M,
Excellent information, thanks for posting this. A couple of informative takaways:
The statement: “…especially since Ptaah will leave Earth in 2029 and we will no longer have access to his love, knowledge and wisdom?”
It is interesting that Ptaah will leave Earth the same year that 99942 Apophis, aka Red Meteor arrives. We know that the Plejaren will leave Earth when Billy passes. One cannot help but connect the dots between Apophis, Billy’s death and the Plejaren leaving. Switzerland may be just barely outside the strike-zone of imminent devastation.
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1) Distance from North Sea to Black Sea: 2,604 km (1,618 miles)
2) Distance from North Sea to Switzerland: 1,124 km (698 miles)
3) Distance from Black Sea to Switzerland: 2,069 km (1,286 miles)
Plejaren stated that Apophis will strike between the North Sea and the Black Sea if not diverted.
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The statement: “…and who are living in line with that teaching in 2000 years from now, will be confronted with the choice of leaving planet Earth for good.”
As a matter of prospective, the first flight of the Wright Brothers aircraft was 118 years ago back in 1903. In 2,000 years, the Earth will be very different due to the advancement of technology in many areas and hopefully Earthlings spiritual evolution, not to mention that Earth’s Sun is in the throes of dying which may cause all kinds of associated disturbance with Earths atmosphere and environment during this process…
Salome
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1399
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - 08:56 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth,
(please see information about John Dering at the end of this post).
Kenneth: "In 2,000 years, the Earth will be very different due to the advancement of technology in many areas and hopefully Earthlings spiritual evolution//"
Re; Apophis:
I recall a press conference by NASA in which a woman, I don't recall her position, stated that it was concluded that the best way to divert Apophis was to detonate a nuclear bomb close enough to set it off its course without blowing it up... exactly the solution offered by Quetzal in the contact report.
Quetzal also stated that the nations of Earth will need to work together in order to implement his recommendation... initially when I read his statement, I thought, why would the nations have an issue with implementing this logical solution?
Continuing her statements, the NSASA official also stated that "sending a nuclear bomb into space is not an easy thing to do and would require the collaboration of many nations." That explained it.
Re; Advancement of Technology & Spiritual Evolution:
In the bar, after an event, I had met with the panel of scientists working on the Moon/Mars colonization architecture and asteroid mining because my friend Boris Fritz invited me to come along (former lead scientist at Northrup Grumman). Search YouTube "Boris Fritz: The Next Industrial Revolution (Part 2)" - that's me at the bottom of the screen with the receding hairline watching his presentation.
One thing I realized from the scientists, as we were discussing spirituality, that they are still unclear about the difference between religiosity and spirituality (creation-energy) and are under the assumption that they are one and the same.
During the conversations I realized that they would make leaps and bounds in progress with just a fundamental level of cognitions from the teaching of the prophets, ie; creational laws and recommendations.
Strangely, I wanted to offer clarifications and explanations about the creational laws and how they could use them to trigger impulses from the creative factor, the storage banks and so forth. If they became aware of the fine spiritual perception through clear explanations, they would be able to recognize and identify it and thereby use it to find the missing pieces of any puzzle.
The event was filled with NASA and aerospace scientists and engineers as well as university students. The panel was seeking solutions to some of the aspects of this or that, such as the new spacesuit designs, certain design elements for the design or construction of this or that, etc.
I said "strangely" because every time I wanted to say something during the private meeting in the bar, a strong thought made me remain silent; I'm speaking regarding offering the insights of and speaking about the creational laws and recommendations, the difference between religiosity and spirituality, etc., etc.
Never the less, through the silence, I learned a great deal and realized, our scientists need to be introduced, through a respectable person(s) that can present to them regarding creational laws, the inner workings and components of the consciousness, the fine spiritual perception and the gemut, etc. so that they can recognize these through their current and well developed understandings.
Creational laws and recommendations would be very easily understood and recognized by our scientists through clear explanations. Our scientists already work with fundamental laws, which are well understood by them, but this is as far as it goes. A presentation needs to be put together for them.
There is a scientist named John Dering who stated at a CPAK presentation that the only UFO case he was impressed with was the Billy Meier case (Boris Fritz has a hard time accepting the Meier case, he only expressed interest when he learned from me that Quetzal mentioned something about volcanic activity and the production of diamonds, as a friend of his was researching this at the time).
On YouTube search; "John Dering at CPAK 2007" to see who he is. If you can get a hold of John, I'm certain you would both have a great conversation about the Meier case... and more importantly, the consciousness.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1361
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - 12:02 am: |
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Hi Eddie M,
Obviously, there will be more involved than just advancement of technology and Earthlings spiritual evolution. There will be a lot of other upheavals and changes, too many to mention.
Nonetheless, you have hit the proverbial nail on the head when you said that many scientists and engineers are still unclear about the difference between religiosity and spirituality (creation-energy). Most of them are under the assumption that they are one and the same, as I was in that same boat at one time.
I’m in agreement that Creational laws and recommendations would be very easily understood and recognized by our scientists through clear explanations. Clarifications and enlightenment are the keys. My experience in working with some of the same type of scientists is that they do not like someone telling them what the true Creational Laws are, especially Astrophysicists. However, dropping them appropriate breadcrumbs so a scientist gets it with their own cognition works very well, personal experience…
Thanks for the tip, I will track down John Dering at CPAK 2007 and contact him.
Thank you
Salome
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1400
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - 10:05 am: |
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Salome Kenneth,
Please keep us posted on any progress regarding John Dering.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Reen71b
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2022 - 11:05 am: |
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I'm not sure where this topic fits on the forum so I'll put it here. Has anyone experienced seeing clouds of colors just before entering sleep? The only way I can describe it is like colorful nebula. Is this a regular thing that occurs when falling asleep? Has anyone else experienced this? Also, when I meditate with closed eyes I see this as well.
Maureen
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2022 - 08:58 pm: |
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Maureen:
This reminds me of the Meditation book; p. 336-342.
Rainbow-Shakkas;
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 03:13 am: |
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Hello Maureen,
I experience this too quite often when falling asleep or meditating. During meditation the colour starts as blue, then goes yellow/green and a couple of times I've had the red colour also. When falling asleep there's usually just a blue colour that is shape-shifting like molten wax in a lava lamp, and observing it helps me to fall asleep.
Maybe it has to do with a phenomenom called "phosphenes" which means "seeing light without light entering the eye." (Wikipedia)
Salome,
Niko |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1834
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 04:52 am: |
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"Colorful Clouds"
Hi Maureen,
Could it be that through your meditation you connected with some events from past lives that left a deep impression on your mind?
Unfortunately, I am not Edgar Cayce to tell you exactly when these events happened or what these events were. But almost 44 % of the readings EC gave were for people that had an incarnation in Atlantis. So the world we live in may have many reincarnated Atlanteans. I.e., people who are born now to "make many changes" (improve the lives of people) in the present.
What I am going to explain may be a little far-fetched but these were my first thoughts:
1. The colorful clouds you may have seen may well be related to volcano eruptions.
2. There was one particular time when all the volcanoes along the Mid Atlantic Ridge erupted and illuminated the sky with dense colorful clouds: The time after the asteroid attack on Atlantis in 9498 BCE.
3. According to Semjase Otto Muck’s (OM’s) book “The Secret of Atlantis” explains the sequence of events that happened then quite well.
4. And this book explains:
5. We may compare the aftermath of the Atlantis destruction with the Krakatoa eruption in 1883
6. Then (in 1883) the volcanic eruptions formed dusty clouds which ascended to the (ca. 80 km) high atmosphere
7. Because they were so high in the sky the sun still shone on them even after it sunset.
8. The same phenomena, but 20,000 times more powerful, would have occurred in the aftermath of the Atlantis catastrophe
9. The heavy layer of clouds post-9894 BCE remained in the air for some 2000 years (1)
But what has this to do with colorful clouds?
Well, when Krakatoa exploded (in 1883) the clouds that formed out of the ash in the air rose up to 30 km high in the sky, remained there for more than two years and created immensely beautiful and sunrises and sunsets (2) Even the sun looked blue and green for days. Due to the worldwide haze caused by the ash a large corona surrounded the sun and moon (scientific term: “Bishop’s Ring”). If you google for the famous painting “The Scream” (3) (painted in 1893 by E. Munch) you can get an idea of how the sky may have looked then.
Could this have been the clouds in your dreams?
Bill
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(1)
The long gloomy days and the deathly milieu that covered our planet after the 'Fall of Atlantis' may have inspired some parts of Greek mythology especially their portrayal of "Hades", the realm of the dead. The Greek underworld Erebos (ancient Greek for “deep darkness, shadow”), the realms of shades of Persephone (Queen f the Underworld - her name translates to “Bringer of Destruction”) and Homer's Odyssey describing the Cimmerians (a) living beyond the Oceanus (b), “in a land of fog and darkness”, at the edge of the world and the entrance of Hades – it all may point to the doom and gloom of sunken Atlantis: Yes, we know from Billy that most of the legends surrounding Greek gods are mere tales. But we know as well that the Minoans were descendants from Little Atlantis (Santorini) and that the culture of Greece only took off once the Minoans left Crete for the mainland. So it may well be that Homer knew some «snippets become tales» related to the Fall of Atlantis
(a) “Cimmerians”
- Wikipedia: “According to Herodotus, the Cimmerians inhabited the region north of the Caucasus and the Black Sea during the 8th and 7th centuries BC (i.e. what is now Ukraine and Russia),”
- But Homer placed his Cimmerians in the “sunless land of the west”, “the land of dreams”, at the “entrance of the underworld” (which may point to the sunken Atlantis)
(b) “Oceanus”: In Greek mythology, the river that flowed around the Earth (conceived as flat)
(2)
Google for: Live Science Volcano’s Eruption Colors World’s Sunsets
“The fine ash injected by a volcanic eruption into the stratosphere can be carried by winds all over the world. Sulfur dioxide spewed from volcanoes can react in the atmosphere to form sulfate aerosols (aerosols are tiny particles suspended in the air). Both ash and aerosols can scatter the sun's rays, giving a sunset its apparent color…”
(3)
Google for: The Scream by Edward Munch Classic Print |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1835
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Small Correction/Addition
The dust clouds created by the Krakatoa eruption were initially carried up to 30 km high, persisted there for 2 years before rising higher and higher, settling at a height of 80 km and creating a “Bishop’s Ring” around the rising and setting sun for more than 9 years. |
Reen71b
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 09-2020
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@Tat_tvam_asi
I don't want to assume anything. Especially about past lives. I'm just trying to get a basic understanding of this. With that being said, I'll get into it a bit further:
It used to happen on occasion before falling asleep that I would see this. Now, it is every single time before I fall asleep.
@Friteeucman
There are no such thing as chakras. That is a man made concept like religion. But, I do know there is something in the contact notes about the different colors. I'm just not sure if what I'm experiencing has anything to do with it.
If anyone has any input on this, I welcome it. 
Maureen
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 73
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I met a fellow this Friday that was talking about establishing the New Atlantis.
One lifetime-generation-ago he was the Emperor of Japan. Coincidentally, (Synchronistic...) I met him on his previous personality’s date of death.
His (Hirohitos) P.M. and General one-lifetime-generation-ago, I am good friends with also.
Interestingly, I found reincarnation of the guy who stabbed me in the brain. He committed suicide in jail roughly 10 and a half years ago, which is fascinating and exciting that I have the privilege of having a (Tertiary) formative influence on his life.
It is the way that the Cause-and-Effect chain of Kamma, and the way Creational-Nature operates. Of course, I forsaw this happening, I didn’t realize it would be so soon.
I’m not in the habit I’m telling people this. I have told 6 people so far what their reincarnational lineage is.
There is one particular person I’m going to educate in such matters because it would maybe explain some things to him.
Alas, no one else is going to do it.
In the end of C.r. 155, sec 128-131:
Billy has an interaction between Quetzel, in regards to Elsi:
“Billy:
It would have been better if I had omitted that.”
Quetzal:
129. That is of correctness..
130. If human beings know the past of their former lives, then they do not cope with this.
131. It is better not to reveal anything about it.”
Also, I am cautious about doing this because there has been history of unethical people doing precisely this as a way to get folks who don’t know better to swear allegiance to them, such as explained in C.r. 684. And I don’t want to draw unnecessary attention to myself.
Lyman t Urkke,
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Scott
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Post Number: 3538
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 07:57 pm: |
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Maureen,
Looking at the Meditation Book, initially the ability to concentrate is developed by concentrating on the breathing. After a period a shift occurs where the different colors become the point of concentration. Have you performed the earlier stages of the Meditation where the breathing was the point of focus/concentration?
Scott |
Eddieamartin
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 07:58 pm: |
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To Reen71b
Hi Maureen,
Everyone is different and will experience different things at different stages of development or accomplishment during their meditation practice.
Enjoy the benefits as you determine the type(s) and form(s) of meditation you decide upon for yourself.
I'm sure you're aware of the website FutureOfMankind? You may want to visit CreationalTruth as well, there's lots of good material there.
Happy meditating.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Reen71b
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Post Number: 56
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2022 - 10:39 pm: |
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@Scott
I've only just started reading the Mediation Book. This has been going on for quite a few years (before even having the book) but only recently on a regular basis. I was taking yoga classes about 4 years ago and at the end of each class we would perform Savasana. During this, it was very easy for me to concentrate on my breathing to the point where my breathing is very slow and not as deep, and would experience the seeing of colors with closed eyes. I would be so into this part of the class that I didn't want to come out of it. lol I now do yoga at home. Sitting on a meditation cushion can be challenging for me as my feet tend to go numb in the lotus position. I know there are other ways to do this but this is something I want to get used to. Or at least adjust my seating to be as comfortable as I can. I find it interesting to know certain parts of the teaching before even reading about them. Reading for me, helps me get a better understanding of things. And everyone on the forum is a huge help as well.
Maureen
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 74
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Perhaps you misunderstood my words...
“Rainbow-Shakkas” is a term of endearment.
It is a greeting, and kind of mudra that is popular in Hawaii.
Among other things, it is a form of universal love, signifying “Aloha Ikaika Ola...” it’s translates to “divine-intelligence life-force.”
Alo meaning “presence“ and ha meaning “breath” in ’olelo Hawaii.
To do this, merely fold your middle-three fingers against your palm, whereby only your thumb and pinky are extended.
I throw it twice; just for good measure, kind of “snapping” it.
•rapping:
“Mino aka;
Pau Loa Kanaka!
Ohana...
Pule Anuenue; Shaka, Shaka!
One Pa’a
No ka mea La’a Hana!
Boom Shakka Lakka; Brotha!”
Or sistah, as it where...
There is information on the different colors and radiation values in C.r. 55 and 660...
Now, Frite translates to Rainbow or Creational-Energy-Force in XrShekle. It is rather a shell around the CEF that does not actually contain this Creation-Energy.
As for chakras...I know they don’t exist; as does anyone who follows the material. There are grounding points, I call them nadirs. Of course, don’t quote me on this.
Lyman t Urkke,
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 09-2021
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You could get Phi_spiral to weigh in perhaps?
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Scott
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Post Number: 3539
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2022 - 09:28 am: |
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Thank you Maureen for your explanation. As you said the lotus position can be a challenge. I know that certain people use a type of meditation stool, when doing the Peace Meditation at the Semjase Silver Star Center. It allows for the correct posture and is a little easier on the joints ....I helped translate the Meditation Book, so I know it is a good and helpful in learning Meditation.
Scott |
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