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Kingman
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Post Number: 590
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

You quote Billy here,

"as has been the case upon publication of other writings whose original scripts, however, were then hidden in the Vatican Library in Rome."

The stolen scripts were never published. Your applying something that is semi-unrelated to this discussion. I think Billy is referring to other written text that were PUBLISHED.


What really needs to be understood is the fact that the Creational Laws never change. The truth is the truth. It is irrelevant what document the falsifiers used, the TRUTH was altered. Do you think that the first written, then stolen, words of Jmmanuels teachings and life weren't about Creational Laws/Truth?

Even in a lie the truth must exist.

To produce the needed falsifications, the truth would need to be available for referencing. The original scripts WERE THE ONES THAT WERE STOLEN. The writings that Billy found were the second recordings. I think your attempting to hang onto some minor semantics here.

I do appreciate your referencing historical evidence to back your idea.
a friend in america
Shawn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 864
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Shawn,

"Do you think that the first written, then stolen, words of Jmmanuels teachings and life weren't about Creational Laws/Truth?" --

-- Of course I don't think that at all. Where do you get off with this?

The True Prophets have always been about bringing the Truth of Creation and the Truth of the Spirit to the Human Beings.

You have made a blatant false accusation against my person here. If you have any Honor at all, you will apologize. By which, I don't know why you want to turn argumentative. Bad Hair Day?

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Kingman
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

I thought we were discussing this.

That was an obvious question I posed. "Do you think...?"

Nowhere do I accuse you of anything.

I do think your being silly though. It's just a simple exchange of information.

Take care,
a friend in america
Shawn
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's always has been and will be a matter of Perceptions and and Final Interpretations.

These riddles do have a purpose though, they do and will always make us think and strive to be more aware so that we can finally and successfully answer these things to the best of our limited abilities of so called reasonings! [You know that wrinkly thing between your ears!)

However, useless and unnecessary wars have been started and are still continuing today because of just these sort of same trivialities or so called non-trivial things! [Cause and Effect]/[Good and Evil]/[Right and Wrong].

PAX <-- In it's truest sense!

p.s. The only ones that know the truth are not here to answer and finalize these answers. So it's up to us to decipher together as a team with an ultimate and final goal/plan and choice.

{That is to the final raising and removing of all and any masks ... of all kinds !!!}

Here's to us ... together!

And to the ultimate enrichment of the body/mind and soul as a whole!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 866
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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OK Shawn. Perhaps I am overly-sensitive. Bad Hair = meant to be silly.

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Michael
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Post Number: 775
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't get it. What's so silly about...Badr, I think he's doing a very good job under difficult conditions.
Michael Horn
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's allright , we all must have trouble now and then getting into that neutral positive zone . That's why with all the other troubles that come our way in daily life , the forum should be one of those non life and death factors , therefore not crucial enough to consider the biting off of another's psychological head .

unless you really have to !
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 869
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*

Thanks Michael

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Kingman
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Post Number: 592
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Michael Horn steps up to the podium)

"...no but seriously folks, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar and...."
a friend in america
Shawn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 872
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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... and says, "set one up for my donkey"...

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Michael
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Post Number: 776
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I try never to miss a chance to lower consciousness.

Actually, "New Age" comedy was once my bread and...Badr. Did I say that?
Michael Horn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 896
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Best Greetings to All In Peace,

Here are some very revealing videos found at YouTube in relation to the "Holy Roman Catholic" church.
Deep, dark secrets which may lead to the undoing of this corrupt empire.
(Assuming enough FREE-thinking logical people get to see these)

Each part is about 8 or 9 minutes.
(Sorry, not active links, but once you get to the first one, the others are there in the "sidebar" list)

Part 1./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD0ICimSmzc&feature=related

Part 2./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot7Gx_a6lnU&feature=related

Part 3./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2a9GRhKT-E&feature=related

Part 4./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxmhpjnh6GU&feature=related

Part 5./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvXZ-v1k8nY&feature=related

Part 6./ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFre4fMlVU&feature=related

Your thoughts...?

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Deep dark secrets of the holy empire .....

http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/pd-index.html

Lots of links including sections dealing with the church & UFO's.
Cheers.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By Their Deeds Ye Shall Know Them.

Decades Of Institutionalized Child Abuse In Ireland Conducted By, Known By, Covered Up By ..... Scum Of The Cloth.

THE REPORT.
http://www.childabusecommission.ie/rpt/

May 27, 8:19 AM (ET)

By SHAWN POGATCHNIK

DUBLIN (AP) - Irish leaders declared Wednesday that the secretive Catholic orders responsible for abusing children in workhouse-style schools must pay a greater share of compensation for victims and reveal the true scope of their assets.

Prime Minister Brian Cowen has demanded face-to-face negotiations with all 18 orders involved in decades of child abuse.

"We have to ascertain how much they actually have. The government is adamant and determined that they will make an appropriate contribution," Defense Minister Willie O'Dea said Wednesday.

Cowen said his government fully accepts the damning findings from a nine-year investigation into scores of state-funded, church-run schools for Ireland's poorest children. The report found that children suffered decades of physical, sexual and mental abuse in the ill-monitored facilities until the last of them closed in the 1990s.
Cowen said the congregations of Catholic brothers and nuns must face up their own moral responsibility to do more, particularly by funding counseling and education services for victims and their families. He said the meetings would begin as soon as possible but specified no date.

The premier noted that one order heavily implicated in brutality and molestation at boys' schools, the Christian Brothers, had already pledged to search their finances and assets for "surplus" funds.

"I believe the other individual congregations involved should now also articulate their willingness to make a further substantial voluntary contribution," Cowen said after an emergency Cabinet meeting Tuesday to discuss the abuse report.

On Wednesday, seven of the 18 orders confirmed they would meet with the government. All reiterated apologies for their role in harming children - But none said they would contribute more to a 2002 deal with the government that left taxpayers paying almost all of the euro1.1 billion ($1.5 billion) legal bill for 14,000 abuse settlements.

The Conference of Religious in Ireland, the umbrella body for 138 religious orders on the island, said the 18 orders mired in the child-abuse scandal are planning their own private strategy-planning session Friday in Dublin to decide on a common approach to the government.

Most of the orders were founded in the 19th century to run schools and other facilities for the poor. They all received given greater authority over children's services once Ireland won independence from Britain in the 1920s.

Cowen said it was right that taxpayers should bear much of the cost for aiding victims, because governments for decades gave the orders autonomy to run the schools with little effective monitoring.

"The failure of society in the treatment of children is laid bare in this report and it is horrendous," Cowen said.

"These children were placed in institutions by the state and the state had a duty of care to them. The victims were betrayed by the state and we must ensure that this can never, ever happen again," he said. "Those orders whose members committed the abuse must too face their moral responsibilities."
Cheers.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those wishing to gain some insight into Freemasonry and the Catholic church .... this video is for you.
Hear a former 32nd degree freemason being interviewed after realizing his errors and leaving the lodge.
Note carefully that this is an educated, articulate person.
See for yourself how his mind and that of the interviewer works.
It's an education .... recommended viewing.
This is part 4 of a series of 4 X 10 minute Youtube videos. About 22 megs each.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZsi5Sdiysc&feature=related
Cheers.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 949
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Interesting catch there, Ramirez. IMO the Catholics and the Freemasons are both on the same side of the fence. The agenda of the Masons has a little better objective for Humanity, inasmuch as they wish to promote a slightly more rational secularism.

Be that as it may, the Light of Intelligence, i.e. the Light of the Spirit, is not well represented by Secrecy, Secret orders, Secret Rites, meanings hidden behind arcane Symbols.

The Light of the Spirit, the Truth which leads one on this path, are not meant to be "hidden under a Bushel (of BS)." The Truth is Free to all which seek it.

Salome

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Rod.

Dont remember where but information exists indicating 43-46 of the present cardinals are freemasons. Several popes in the past have been which would confirm the notion of a secret "insider" religion within the catholic religion.

As Quetzal would say "everything is corresponding to the truth" .... regarding your words :-)
Cheers.
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Zhila,

may you favor me with a copy of Jacob's postings as you have offered at http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/9607.html#POST37364.

highly anticipating your email at elreyjr@gmail.com

best regards,
Jun
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Zhila,
I too am interested in the material. May I offer you my email address. johnnybalmain@dodo.com.au

Peace John
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Historeed
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Zhila,

If your offer still stands, I'd appreciate a copy of the material as well... Thanks!

-Matthew
reedmc22@yahoo.com
Historeed
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thankyou Zhila received and saved. Now printing and reading. The printing is for my private collection.
Thankyou again.
Peace John
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Norm
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Post Number: 1291
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did Billy ever mention where Helena Blavatsky got her info (Bafaath etc.) or if she made it all up herself.
My Website
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a real brilliant article for your enjoyment:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211511/Why-born-believe-God-Its-wired-brain-says-psychologist.html

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