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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 05:40 am: | 
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hi everyone.
about this little part:
"This imaginary god has been inherited by human beings for millions of years in a form of a
schizophrenic epileptic delusion and is fixed in the temporal lobe as well as in the parietal lobe. When religious experiences manifest,
forms of schizophrenic delusions are formed at the same time and are, therefore, a result of a genetically inherited religious belief."
can someone please help me, has it been said anywhere that only a genetic repair is required to fix this condition on the brain?
in my part I am learning to be out of religion since I was 11 years old, so at this age of 38 I am well out of that spinning wheel, with no brain surgery 
if there is a possible fix, we need to find the right technology, or support stem cell or other GM technology to fix this up..
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Salome
Carlos
techieatwork@gmail.com
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Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 158
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 09:37 am: |
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Darren,
My personal experience with sharing the material is that I must be willing to spend some time with people, such as in small groups or one on one is even better. There are people like us that once they hear or read something that they are already looking for they latch on with tenacity and don't let go for life. For the most part people are really not looking or have given up on finding the truth and these are the ones that require more of our time. It helps if we have some influence and credibility with them already and also be around them in a work or other arrangement. This does require from us much preparation and constant study to be appropriating the material and not just appreciating it.
Carlos
There has also been some studies related to alcoholism being a genetically inherited weakness as well a many other tendencies toward many diseases. The emphasis should not be here with fear as perhaps I gave too much of a strong reaction as I was contemplating the task of changing the people as a mass as overwhelming, but with ourselves as our own personal project we have plenty of tools in the tool box with the meier material to make whatever changes that we decide to make.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Meditation_from_Clear_Sight
42) The Creational peace has embedded in my consciousness; it soothes, calms and heals me.
43) I live with my thoughts and feelings within the consciousness, insomuch that I fulfill the Creational laws and directives according to my best abilities.
44) I live with the knowledge and the truth within my consciousness, insomuch that the Creational spirit as well as its energy and power within me is present within all things. 45) The control over myself lets me be free from anxiety, lovelessness, discord and from all bad things.
46) Within me is a great, massive and creative willpower through which I can accomplish all my works.
Peace, Matt
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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 12:42 pm: |
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Hi Hector, Matt, Tobi, Carlos, and Darren.
The religious people, they tell thier children that their religion is the right way to go. As a resut, it will make the children only like and be around people who only follow their religion. With the Catholics, they baptized their children with they are babies because of some original sin nonsense. They don't give their children a choice and it results in irraional thinking. But, when a married couple have a child, they usually argue over how the child should be raised. Parents need to teach their child what is right and what is wrong, not religion.
Unfortunately, we have to work, live, go to school, play sports, and eat at restuarants with these people. When they see something good, for example hey see a man/woman that they want to spend the rest of their life with, they do be with the person because of their religion. People always want something better, but they won't give-up their religious beliefs to obtain it. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 103
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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Redbeard, my experience in trying to tell people about meier case has unfortunetly taught me what Ptaah had said "the earth human does not want to know the truth".
I tried but given up coz too many people are as thick as two bricks imo. You can't talk to them. Even the non religous ones. They have an idiot way of thinking. You/I can see it. They don't think logically like us. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 104
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 04:46 pm: |
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correction, i meant to add this on end; "They don't think logically like us" ,at least not when it comes to talking about ufo's and meier related topics. |
Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 159
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 07:37 am: |
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Truly, reaching out to others is risky and daunting and with some you can tell quickly that the walls around their minds are thick and have few doors or windows, but we owe it to our own future lives to do what we can now to try to chisel away at the propaganda and lies. Remember, we are looking for a gem in a huge pile of dirt. There are those that are looking for the truth but in order to qualify them and present it correctly it takes a lot of study and personal application for years to do it justice in a conversation. Take a look at your approach and delivery, would you have thought it credible if you were introduced in the same way and put yourself in their position.
Every person that I have enough exposure or time with in order to strike up a personal, political, conspiracy or business conversation with inevitably allows me a chance to see where this person is at in their thinking.
I someone is opinionated this does not make them open minded or even very kind, but if someone is giving me their thoughts on a subject, you can be sure that I will listen and look for a crack in the wall. I do not throw the precious pearls around at all but I do challenge an opinion or modify it and feed it back to them to test to see if they are even capable of individual and open mindedness to see if they qualify that they are even worth my time
Peace, Matt
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Kingman
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Post Number: 720
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 11:10 am: |
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Here's some current poll numbers regarding religion in America. Growing belief of non-belief.
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/29-americans-religion-out-date/
a friend in america
Shawn
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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 05:49 pm: |
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Hi Shawn,
I went to that link and I'm glad that I see more American think that religion is out-of-date. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 11:33 am: |
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Hi Darren, what really struck me was the Goblet of Truth concerning homosexuals. I don't believe there is a religion out there that has this tolerance. I've always been a big believer in letting them be. Every one I know has a gay cousin, that does not mean we love our cousin any less because of it. That's what I've always hated about religion because I'm pretty sure that if homosexuals wanted to be heterosexual, they would be. I saw a documentary suggesting that males who were gay had less testosterone in-vitro and butchy women had more testosterone than heterosexuals. So it may be genetic.
Also in the Goblet of truth, look at divorce and joint custody. Most logical in all aspects.
Just because people don't get it now, doesn't mean that sometime in the future, they won't be thinking about what you said...
It's just not their time yet. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 108
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:33 pm: |
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Hi Justsayno,
I haven't had a chance yet to read the Goblet of Truth. I'm still catching up on reading contact notes and so forth.
I don't mind gay people as long as they keep their kissing, fondling and so forth off the streets and public places where children are. Even TV. It's gives kids the wrong impression that it's ok to be gay when its not. |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 06:34 pm: |
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The thing with religious people, is that, they take a very long time to accept things and change. For example, it took the Roman Catholic Church about 400 years to accept Galileo's theory that the Earth is not at the center of the universe. |
Sanjin
Member
Post Number: 90
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 09:16 pm: |
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Hi techie.
I've heard that our thoughts have an effect on our genes, which is why this condition came to be in the first place.
The easiest way to fix this up, IMO, would be through meditation, since it would be quite difficult to isolate this problem genetically and then rectify it without damaging/changing something else.
36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 365
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 03:36 am: |
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Hi Marbar,
Hope you dont mind me copying a post of yours from another section .....
"I know I will gain nothing from thinking about my future incarnation. My concern is will he/she be trapped into the grip of the religions."
Seeing you found your way here and are not writing anything irrational already there are positive signs regarding any grip religion might have had over you.
If you defeat religion this lifetime it confers a relative immunity in future ..... relative not absolute and worrying about next lifetime already ..... relax, plenty of experiences in store this time around to keep you busy.
Not to say whatever outcome you seek is likely be smooth sailing or instant, but to me at least it appears you have already disempowered some of the mechanisms which were at work by openly identifying and confronting your dilema in various ways so it might be an advantage to pursue some private exchanges with other members.
The board is not really a suitable place for personal discussions of this type so if you feel sufficiently confident you could ask Justsayno for her e-mail address or mine through the moderators Scott or Badr.
Cheers.
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Jonzie
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 04:44 pm: |
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Darren said: I don't mind gay people as long as they keep their kissing, fondling and so forth off the streets and public places where children are. Even TV. It's gives kids the wrong impression that it's ok to be gay when its not.
JustSayNo said: I'm pretty sure that if homosexuals wanted to be heterosexual, they would be
Response: Perhaps you missed the point of being neutral positive. If it is believed that homosexuality is a way people are born, then why does anyone expect a homosexual to be anything else? If it is said homosexuality is a mental disfunction, then again, how can One reasonably expect the homosexual to be anything else?
Your statement is that it is not okay to be homosexual. Of course it is: in neither scenario did the person who is gay have a choice.
In as far as 'gay people be non-gay if they wanted', I'm sure a fish could be a bird if it wanted ... Does that also sound logically reasonable to you? It doesn't to me.
Putting pretty ribbons on dead plants might make them look good, but the newsflash: the plants are still dead. The ribbon did not change anything. LYING by pretending to be something one is not will change the facts of what it is. Putting on ribbons (don't do this or that in public) also does not change a thing.
Which is worse: to be a liar or to be what you are? People are openly gay are not open gay to disturb anyone else. They are openly gay because they refuse to be liars, no matter how displeasing that is to your own prejudice tastes.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1900
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:49 pm: |
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Please lets get back on topic. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 111
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:44 pm: |
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Scott, sorry i just like to quickly reply back to Jonzie.
Jonzie, I didn't miss the point. My response wasn't just on what you quoted JustSayNo on. I was just saying how i feel on the subject. I think maybe you missed my point instead. I was focusing on benefits for kids and not on gays - "It's gives kids the wrong impression that it's ok to be gay when its not." I think thats a fair statement. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:10 pm: |
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Jonzie, I didn't mean to sound as though i was biting back there. |
Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 163
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 06:57 am: |
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In a recent discussion with someone about religion on earth I was asked if earth was the only planet that had religion and to the best of my knowledge I replied yes, accept for the et's that came here and took it back to their planet resulting in devastating wars and subsequent banning of all religious materials by the federation.
Am I correct in stating this that no other planet has had religion, perhaps there were planets that had some delusions of some sort until later corrected...
Peace, Matt
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 10:07 am: |
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I think that it is part of the course of evolution that humans do often form primitive religions around things like the sun, etc. but that the situation that occurred here, tied in to the interference from various ETs, is somewhat unique.
I am gathering this also from the fact that the spiritual teaching refers a lot to religion and that it is said to be a teaching for all humans throughout the universe. I may be wrong though. |
Jonzie
Member
Post Number: 35
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 08:17 am: |
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Yes this is a correct statement. I just re-read re-watched Asket's explanations. The source is there.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sukofu#p/u/92/-XEHLhYasE8
To moderators: this link is to Asket's notes, Goblet on Truth in English on line. It is the video versions for those members who are blind. [And I mean physically blind. This is the audio site of the contact notes and Billy's books.
Darren: no offense taken, Friend.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 12:56 pm: |
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Hi
I think Michael is right here.
If we look at the OM and the Goblet of Truth
My thinking is the OM is more Earth orientated as it deals with god being a human being and creating religious teachings that weak in consciousness humans have submitted too.
Where as the Goblet of Truth has a more wider understanding and teaching about beliefs and false gods and tin gods. In which it is mentioned about the Earth Humans in the Goblet of Truth, it is said the Earths throughout the universe (all human populated planets)
I think that there are many other planets in the universe that go through or are going through the belief stage of evolution but here on Earth belief was taken to "new heights" with the Bafath.
Thanks
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 54
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 02:18 pm: |
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Michael_horn
Quote: - [I may be wrong though.] - Definitely Not !!!
We are indeed unique creatures of habit although the originals way of religion was to be based on a truth of life lived for a purpose that brings to fore a so called way of truism through discernment as well as a chosen well intended but truly unselfish experience for all others to use and to follow but only as guidelines ... not as the so called rules and regulations written in stone by the others for ... their own selfish means of control over the whole!
Now it's up to us as a generation of x-vipers, villains, saints, demons to gods to make it finally right! Simply put because, if we lose this one, chances are that we may lose the whole kit and caboodle and I for one prefer change over no change, in the way that it was truly meant to be to benefit us all as a solid foundation in order to take that next step what ever it may be right or wrong... together !!!
But for now it's time to walk the walk and talk the talk, that is if you get my drift on things to come!
The one thing that I do promise for us all is this ... (it will be totally different and a new and unique puzzle for all of us to solve together) !!!}
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
~ Benjamin Franklin ~
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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Hi Jonzie, you misunderstood me. "That's what I've always hated about religion (because they only want to change gays into hetero) because I'm pretty sure that if homosexuals wanted to be heterosexual, they would be." Meaning that if that's all gays had to do was pray and become hetero, who wouldn't? Because wouldn't that be an easier road to travel? I have nothing against gays, never have, and you'll notice I went on and said it was probably genetic. I meant no disrespect to you or anyone else. But thanks for letting me know that I should take those fancy ribbons off my dead plants |
