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    Joe Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2008 |
Excerpt from Contact Report 194 on 15th June 1984 regarding World War 3 Billy: And the Third World War, what about that? Quetzal: 43. Still for a long time, everything is unclear and everything stands on the knife’s cutting edge. 44. Things are so confused that no clear picture can be derived from it. 45. Currently, everything seems to point to such a war, but in contrast, the danger is less severe again. 46. However, all final facts show that this war is inevitable and, thus, that it will come. 47. But everything, as I said, is uncertain because these facts are changing constantly, particularly through the Peace Meditation, which should occur in a much larger framework, nevertheless. 48. It is probably effective in the existing smallest framework, but the foreign and hostile powers are simply too great, so at least only the alleviation of terror can be sought after if the great chaos is actually inevitable and, nevertheless, still falls, which still seems to be unavoidable, at least for the time of the prophecies. 49. But the future will tell what will be and what we, at present, do not yet clearly see. Billy: Then the people of the Earth must continue to live with the fear of the Third World War. Quetzal: 50. Unfortunately, that is still correct for the time being, and with that, my friend, I once again said all that I had to say for today. | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 04-2008 |
From AND STILL THEY FLY! on page 273: "The use of so-called logical force is also justified if danger arises through the use of certain atomic weapons. Not only the planet on which the atomic war conducted but the entire solar system, also, could be destroyed in a chain reaction. This, in turn, could cause an even greater cosmic catastrophe. The greatest danger of unleashing a worldwide atomic war on our earth existed up to the end of 1974. Since the earth is located at a delicate point in our galaxy(...not in one of the spiral arms but on the outermost edge outside of the spiral arm), the destruction of the entire earth globe could destroy the entire space and time continuum. Under certain circumstances, the aftermath of a chain reaction could trigger the dreadful occurrence of a cosmic catastrophe. Through unspeakably wearisome, painstaking and complicated measures, this already - provoked disaster was luckily prevented. This tremendously difficult task - according to Asket and the Pleiadians, the most difficult mission ever to take place in the history of this universe - was carried out and successfully mastered by Asket and her assistants of the DAL Universe. Who could possibly know that? It happened, so to speak, behind the scenes, and earth people had not the slightest notion about it." ADJUSTMENT of my question; The destruction of earth through atomic war, under certain circumstances, would cause a cosmic catastrophe, NOT the universe...the destruction of the Universe is from this bit of info: "Truthfully a dangerous discovery, if the Earth human already would be qualified to isolate this telonin, the neutrino. "Only too quickly would then namely the recognition ripen in him that, under quite certain prerequisites, telonin is useful, and, together with certain evoked reactions, would become the most absolute and most totalitarian weapon which would only come to be used one single time, because a monstrous chain reaction would thus arise. "A gleaming explosion would transform the Earth into a glowing white cloud of gas in less that five one-hundredths of a second, while the chain reaction would race out into free space with the speed of light, to transform everything into gas and destroy it through exploding and burning up. "This explosion would stretch out over the entire universe with the speed of light and would irresistibly destroy it, which would indeed take many trillions of years, because the destruction would roll along behind the expansion of the universe, which amounts to many times the speed of light. "As a comparison, the course of events would look as if a balloon were inflated endlessly and its external skin amounted to a glowing white mass. "Everything that would be pulled into this gleaming mass would fall into destruction with the speed of light and vaporize without the possibility of stopping. "Thus would be the effect of the improper use of the telonin particle, because a chain reaction would be unavoidable, on the grounds that the telonin is a form of those fundamental building blocks of life of the entire universe, which penetrate, enliven and even create any and all matter." 192,280-282.htm,http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meier.elu.p169,192,280-282.htm Tien | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1099 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Best Greetings In Peace Adrian, You have stated in your post: ... [ "Somehow the debris from Malona aren't hitting us. If it's from a planet from another system, I really doubt the debris would travel this far... Since they would get attracted by multiple gravitational forces. Also if we take the magnitude of the explosion, most of the matter from the planet would be pulverized, transformed into energy. I really don't know I'm just saying. [ "... there hasn't been any recorded debris falling off the sky in the last 1000 years of a catastrophic magnitude.... [ "Probably a catastrophe like another planet's debris falling off the sky would probably change the planet's situation for the better...I don't know." ] -- (emphasis added /Rod) First, Malona WAS a planet in this Solar System, it did not come from somewhere else. The Earth HAS been pummeled from Numerous large and small "Chunks of Debris" from Malona in the past. The entire Belt of the Asteroids circling the Sun are "Debris" leftover from the explosion of Malona. It was the proximity of Mars in that time, when Malona exploded, that caused the loss of much of the Atmosphere and Water from Mars. Mars then took a colder, more distant Orbit away from the Sun. There are today several Thousand of these Debris Chunks which cross through the Orbit of the Earth on a regular basis; some of these are near-hits. Since we have not yet calculated the Orbits of ALL the Earth-crossing Debris, it IS still possible to be surprised -- for one or more to strike here somewhere. There WAS a near-hit just within the past year or two, which was detected too late, which we all learned about after the fact, after it passed by us. [ "...debris falling off the sky would probably change the planet's situation for the better..." ] --> ==  WHERE do you get off with this completely illogical statement.???!!!. So, you imply that you are in FAVOR of MEGADEATHS? I presume you are also in favor for a Global ThermoNuclear War.?!!. You oughta go join the Army = they'll teach you HOW to KILL properly. And if it's "Debris" that you want to see, just hang on to yer butt when the Red Comet comes whizzin our way. As JOE has posted: ... [ (From Quetzal): -- [ 46. However, all final facts show that this war is inevitable and, thus, that it will come. [ 47. But everything, as I said, is uncertain because these facts are changing constantly, particularly through the Peace Meditation, which should occur in a much larger framework, nevertheless. ] -- -- Thank You Joe As Tien has pointed out, a "telonin-bomb" would indeed be the MOST destructive: ... = [ "A gleaming explosion would transform the Earth into a glowing white cloud of gas in less that five one-hundredths of a second, while the chain reaction would race out into free space with the speed of light, to transform everything into gas and destroy it through exploding and burning up. [ "This explosion would stretch out over the entire universe with the speed of light and would irresistibly destroy it, which would indeed take many trillions of years, because the destruction would roll along behind the expansion of the universe, which amounts to many times the speed of light." ] -- -- Thank You Tien The Telonin is another name for a Quantum Energy "particle" which we call the Neutrino. Neutrinos are released in massive quantities from any sustained FUSION reaction or large FUSION explosions, which describes large ThermoNuclear Warheads. There is NO upper limit to the explosive Power of a FUSION BOMB. Light-up a couple hundred of them at once => <*> 'Nuff said ***** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 318 Registered: 06-2008 |
A theoretical question to anyone prepared to consider the logic of this so called telonin device. If it's possible for a bunch of deranged misfit scientists and their psychotic ruling controllers inhabiting the number 1 worst case delinquent planet in the galaxy to create a so called universal mega doomsday final solution "telonin bomb" ...... hasn't the Creator created a major design boo boo in allowing such a scenario to be even remotely possible ? Fancy allowing the possibility that some scruffy alley gang could burn down the theater ...... Is this really the case ? 314 trillion years worth of stage plays at risk because some lunatics on a far flung speck of dust consider themselves clever and omnipotent. If matches are that dangerous why are they available ? Cheers. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Ramirez, From the start, it is unnatural that we have nuclear bombs. The Giza intelligence had a major role in sending out impulses and giving away valuable clues to earth scientists. The telonin-bomb was never a possibility in the first place if we had not known the secrets of penetrating an atom and thus a whole new area of science. Telonin-bomb was a spin-off of experiments by scientist working in this area. We, in our present state of development have jumped into a technology that is perhaps 100's of years ahead in our natural evolution - centuries of self learning that we have missed. It might very well be the case (I am assuming here) that in a natural scenario we would have learnt a lot of scientific and spiritual truth before we actually have got to the point of manufacturing an atomic weapon - including the theoritical fact about the terrible power of a telonin-bomb and its capability. Having said all that, it is a very good point you have raised that why would the Creation would make possible means of destruction of Universe even it is of a remote possibility? | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 04-2008 |
Ramirez, well, with-in Creation, we do have BEAM, the Plejaren and friends from the DAL Universe who are assisting in providing counter measures even with so-called logical force...seems like no mission is impossible for them. But they are only human and cannot be every where all the time keeping watch. Unless the are actually able to. Because, then again, didnt they say religion ONLY exist on our planet in the entire universe.? Tien | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 03-2008 |
Ramirez, Matches are available, in my opinion, to "test" the intelligent living creatures of the universe in order to determine whether they are "worth" living or not. The matches are there to make sure the intelligent creatures who get too ambitious kill themselves because it is not worth letting them live while they work into dominating entire galaxies. And Rod, Yes, I am aware that, according to BEAM's info, Malona was in our solar system. Yet probably one of Malona's asteroids was the cause of the dinosaur disappearance. And so other species evolved because the dinosaurs were dominating and it wasn't pretty. That's what I mean by changing the situation. If you think the situation on our planet is bad is most certainly because of humans. Probably worse than when dinosaurs dominated the earth. And I'm not for one second there suggesting that we should kill ourselves or anything like this. I am only one person...if somehow the humans develop such this as a telonin bomb than, what can I do? Peace meditation? Sure, I'll do that, in the hope that human beings don't destroy themselves. But let me tell you, if those scientists or leaders can't figure out by themselves the dangers of such things, I doubt peace meditation will change them. They have free will after all. We deserve to die...unless we think and act differently. "WHERE do you get off with this completely illogical statement.???!!!." It's a cycle... if humans do not pass the test, they die... goodbye. There will be other species if the planet is lucky to be able to regenerate itself as it did in the past, probably many many times. "So, you imply that you are in FAVOR of MEGADEATHS? I presume you are also in favor for a Global ThermoNuclear War.?!!. You oughta go join the Army = they'll teach you HOW to KILL properly." No I do not. You misinterpreted me. I am not in favor of anything which you consider diabolic or evil. Evil only comes from humans, never from nature. If humans are in conflict with the earth and with themselves and cannot solve that by themselves, nature either changes or kills them. And I don't think you need a special training by the army if you want to kill. All you need is knowledge of the opponent's weak points. Adrian. | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi Ramirez, I have actually wondered about that myself - in fact, to my mind at least, its a wonder how the universe has managed to stay as intact as it has up to now at all!, insofar as if one is to consider the fact there are indeed quite a very high number of intelligently inhabited planets out there..... that would have (if they are very technological now) - have been going through (at some point in their past) nearly exactly the same quite deadly & very dangerous 'technological progress/breakthrough stage' that we are going through. (or if one prefers.. 'kids playing with the matches period' as it were.) I know that we are by far the worst offenders in general but by the sound of it - some of the other human races are no great shakes either..i.e still progressing (so maybe floundering too at times) so with this in mind - seems like a continuing very freakish & lucky fluke of sorts that the universe is still in more or less healthy tip-top shape. - also find the concept of the exploding universe chasing the expanding one - to be an intriguing one! - like an animal eating its own tail maybe. hmmmm | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 319 Registered: 06-2008 |
Greetings fellow puzzle solvers. Joining some dots to continue the investigation .... Contact Report 251. About 45% down the report. "During this same period, once again, the megalomanic scientists will perform an incredible spectacle by producing a gigantic second sun. Although this group of scientists will be small in number, nonetheless, through a dangerous experiment they will ignite one of the SOL planets, which will burn for seven days and glisten in the SOL system as a second sun before it burns out and fades. Jupiter and Saturn could be equally suitable candidates for this experiment as they are uncompleted miniature suns, making redundant the selection of planets for this future insanity." Guy Fawkes night on Jupiter or Saturn ... Sounds very close to describing the non weaponized science associated with and behind the "telonin device" Smukhuti, "The telonin-bomb was never a possibility in the first place if we had not known the secrets of penetrating an atom and thus a whole new area of science. Telonin-bomb was a spin-off of experiments by scientist working in this area." Here you are describing the former WW2 nazi scientists who infiltrated then essentially took over several parts of the clandestine US black projects following Project Paperclip. These characters are deranged occultists believing in all manner of celestial fantasies. So you have the regular looney tunes AKA religion, the money changers AKA big banking, nutso astrology - mythology - divine prophesy freaks AKA secret project nazis all competing with and in places joining forces with each other to suit their own agendas. The Russians who are also working in this field of research are however far more normal and rational compared to the others .... IMO. Getknowledge, "we do have BEAM, the Plejaren and friends from the DAL Universe who are assisting in providing counter measures even with so-called logical force...seems like no mission is impossible for them." Right on. Contact Report 471. Cleaning up the MIB in 2006 who were using former stations on Mars as a base and hideout. Also before that the Giza boys in 1978 and Ashtar Sheran in 1983 and possibly others not publicly mentioned. Adysor, "Matches are available, in my opinion, to "test" the intelligent living creatures of the universe in order to determine whether they are "worth" living or not. The matches are there to make sure the intelligent creatures who get too ambitious kill themselves because it is not worth letting them live while they work into dominating entire galaxies." Dominating entire galaxies through extortion .... But if such science has a potential to become a universal doomsday machine then the irresponsible ones are not just killing themselves .... more is at stake if the reported flow over effects are accurate. Gib_niner, Agree with all your thoughts. Must have been a lot of races go through these dilemas but if you start considering religion and it's illusory rewards of paradise ..... a few folks are in need of serious intervention to not only save them from themselves but everyone else from them. Cheers. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1528 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Smukhuti..... Very interesting point: 'We, in our present state of development have jumped into a technology that is perhaps 100's of years ahead in our natural evolution - centuries of self learning that we have missed. It might very well be the case (I am assuming here) that in a natural scenario we would have learnt a lot of scientific and spiritual truth before we actually have got to the point of manufacturing an atomic weapon - including the theoritical fact about the terrible power of a telonin-bomb and its capability.' Well, if we see it from the point of view the - Original/UR Earth Humans -, they would 'lack' a tremendously in evolution of Scientifically and Spiritually, I would think. Thus, all those 'impulses' that have been transmitted is due to the much higher evolved Spirit-forms, which should not lack in any shape-or-form, their Evolution processing. That is our of the main problem: just to many Spirit(ual) Evolved Levels....present, and I would think it would be quite difficult for Creation(Material mechanism/processor) to adapt herself, in such 'awkward' scenario, correctly. Billy did say, that we should have, some 40-50 years ago, already sustained Alternative Energy Sources! But, alas...which is not the case. Man is just too fixated on Fossil Fuels and MONEY...which it generates. But, of course, when we have the Giza Boys and even the Plajarans and other ET transmitting impulses, related to technology or what ever....it does become quite a MESS! As Norm commented many times of them all putting their finger in our porridge! But, I guess...we still have to acknowledge, that the human species here on Earth, are still quite low evolved, and that ET's as the Plejarans and Fed., would come in for the positive of Man. Remember: WE still have many many 10's of Billions of years to go, before we reach the pure Spiritual levels! Thus, they are just aiding us 'kiddies' for our best Will and Spiritual Growth, etc. On our own...the Planet would already have self destructed, as is mentioned in the Meier Materials, example: Thanks to Mohammed for Averting Judeo/Catholic/Christianity, if this was not the case..the Earth would have been just another astroid belt...some 500 years ago!! So, you see: WE still have very much Growing Up....to do! Even though Man of Earth/today can be Arrogant enough to maintain himself....as being Smart and Intelligent(; sounds almost Cult Religiously, not???), but hence...only according to his Evolution level! Man has just learned to Walk! It will take a LONG while before he can RUN...... Edward. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 328 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/12/07/93422.html Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he has documented evidence that the United States is doing what it can to prevent the coming of the Mahdi, the Imam that Muslims believe will be ultimate savior of mankind, press reports said Monday. | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 09-2002 |
I remember when I was a teenager my father sent over some work he had done on Neutrino's, to a lab for the US govt. This was back in the 80's. He had several conversations with scientists who were working on this for the US Govt and when they figured out he knew more about them than they did, we had the FBI over to our house in a matter of days wondering how he knew all this info. One thing I learned from that incident was 1) the govt doesn't like competition 2) Neutrino's were a high priority for the US govt at the time and possibly today. Amazing how time goes by. Mark Gilbo | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1557 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Mark.... Interesting, insight! The Plejarans have indeed, also mentioned the relevance of the Neutrino. So, I guess, it was not only the Plejaran's worry....but also the US government. And it's today's relevance, also..... Man: when we talk about Telonin and Neutrino...and, what else have we...? Makes the Atom Bomb (or whatever similar)...look like a small firecracker!! "Wonderbaarlijk...is The Creation...!!" Edward. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 337 Registered: 05-2008 |
As Micheal Horn says "U.S. POLITICIAN TELLS THE...TRUTH!" http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20found,ID=091221_3622,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml Iran Sanctions are Precursor to War "Last week the House overwhelmingly approved a measure to put a new round of sanctions on Iran. It is designed to foment war by cutting off trade and diplomacy. Too many forget that the quagmire in Iraq began with an embargo. Sanctions are not diplomacy. They are a precursor to war and an embarrassment to a country that pays lip service to free trade. It is ironic that people who decry isolationism support actions like this." | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 361 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://kuroiso.org/ no explanation needed | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 814 Registered: 03-2004 |
Yes, Earthling, very ugly, but please be aware that nuclear warfare was made obsolete several years ago by the "black shelf" sorts of Quantum weapons which turned the steel, concrete, humans, and so on in the WTC into a cloud of fine dust almost a decade ago. http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/dustspire.gif But even the Dark Order's (Billy's coinage in his Goblet of Truth essay) underground cities, built to thwart Nukes, are not safe from Scalar weapons. And what about all those OTHER super weapons and flying saucers and other anti-gravity craft the D.O. has, as described by Ptaah? "Dann kommt der zweite Fakt, der darin besteht, dass Angst, Schrecken, Hass und Rachegefühle in den Erdenmenschen erzeugt werden, worauf dann die Waffenindustrie aufgebaut werden kann, und zwar insbesondere in bezug auf futuristische Waffen, von denen die normalen Erdenmenschen keine Ahnung haben und nicht einmal davon zu träumen wagen." Then comes the second fact, which exists in the fact that angst, terror, hate and feelings of revenge is produced in the Earth humans whereby then the weapons industry can be built up and indeed especially in regard to futuristic weapons, of which the normal Earth humans have no idea, and of which they do not ever dare to dream. "Selbst über nachgebaute Strahlschiffe verfügen sie, wobei sogar in gewissem Rahmen Antigravitation Anwendung findet." They even have back-engineered beamships at their disposal, whereby, in certain contexts, even antigravity finds application. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb34.htm Times have changed. Nukes are the least of our worries. Read about the "SCOURGE". http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/021109.htm http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/Eisenhower.htm Sleep well, Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 833 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Scott, You asked about the obvious pulverisation-at-a-distance of the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001. Jay Jonas (Captain, Ladder Co 6 Department of New York), "And right around the three-hour mark, all of a sudden, a beam of sunshine hit the (6th floor) stairway. I looked and said, "Guys, there used to be 106 floors above us and now I'm seeing sunshine." They're like, "What?" I said, "There's nothing above us. That big building doesn't exist." http://archive.recordonline.com/adayinseptember/jonas.htm Please see my postings of 18 & 20 February, 2007 if you want to find more information. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8860.html#POST25554 It’s called “the Hutchinson Effect”. www.hutchisoneffect.ca It’s quite technical. It’s long been weaponised. Dr. Judy Wood has done a very good job, in spite of her lack of technical/electrodynamic training, pulling together the evidence. Remember Ptaah's warning about "futuristic weapons, of which the normal Earth humans have no idea, and of which they do not ever dare to dream."? See my Jan 24th posting @ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2784.html?1264386476 "Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."- Marshall McLuhan For the detailed documentation that Sept 11, 2001 was permitted to happen, please study www.wanttoknow.info Salome, Dyson | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 08-2008 |
I think that guy from www.hutchisoneffect.ca is just "taking the piss" at us. (laughing at us) The videos are blurry. In the flying UFO-toy video, the guy's finger nails are in such a poor condition, that it does not speak good things of the videos, and the object lifts up like being pulled up by thin string. The one showing the metal "disappearing and re-appearing" it's just too obviously fake. please correct me if I am wrong. -- Salome Carlos | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 795 Registered: 03-2004 |
BEAM clearly stated that the tech you mention was NOT what caused the destr= uction on 9-11.=C2=A0 Not to argue but he was clear about it. patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 835 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Carlos, You're wrong, mate. Billy's videos look fake too, at first glance, and for the same reason. Dear Thomas, What's wrong with a non-acrimonious argument? argument (plural arguments) 1. A fact or statement used to support a proposition; a reason: 2. [NOT THIS DEFINITION] -> A verbal dispute; a quarrel. 3. A process of reasoning. 4. (philosophy, logic) A series of statements organized so that the final statement is a conclusion which is intended to follow logically from the preceding statements, which function as premises. (Wiki) Now please read: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.sdw142.DerfalscheWeg.htm Then let's look at EXACTLY what Billy said, but do as he says and not BELIEVE anybody, not even him. And do you recall what he said when he was first told about the Apollo 11 hoax? Cheers! Dyson | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 06-2009 |
Maybe such weapon exists. But it was said that at high level, the American knew about the impending attack and did nothing to prevent it (probably as to let the disaster happen and develop public opinion supportive of war). Also that there were liquid explosives on board the planes. Refer: Question by Jo_jo Answered by Billy Salome. Suv | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 840 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Suv, I guess kerosene is a liquid explosive. Salome, Dyson | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2009 |
how about the discovery of nanothermite in the dust clouds on 9/11...how cud terrorists get that advanced material which is only developed in classified military labs...[as far as i know] Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. |
