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Marbar
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 05:01 am: | 
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HI Bronze,
I agree with you, it is indeed time for that. These religious people need to quit being selfish and face reality. |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 08:04 am: |
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Don't forget that ~ We ~ are all still a great
big part of this in some form or other. So in order for us to decide you must not take away free will or choice, it must come from within and not from out and all about!
Correct me if I'm wrong but no where in the book does it say that we have to like this road we've chosen and traveled or accept anything that was not chosen or out of context when its all said and done! I just want us all to believe that we will always have the right of choice and change ... and never to allow any loose change to be thrown at us or have our noses rubbed in the dirt because we chose for not !!!
We are who we are in this one life and lives to come together, forever. And I for one ... am proud of us all !!!<--and I just can't express that one more than enough as being heard and said to one and all! "Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead!"
Hear reason, or she'll make you feel her.
~ Benjamin Franklin ~
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 09:08 pm: |
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If you religiously follow what you believe to be true, in other words, if what you believe to be true is what drives your behavior, if what you believe to be true guides and shapes your self-growth, and your sense of what is true is malleable in a scientific sorta way, then you are always gonna be on the lookout for a greater sense of truth, as expressed by guru-shopping, or learning theoretical physics, or any number of other ego-defining topics. This seems to me to be a natural process by which we grow a greater sense of understanding and wisdom and depth. Religion is only part of this process, a phase if you will. It actually surprises me that other societies in the universe do not have religions, for they certainly follow what they believe religiously.
Love is always the way
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Kingman
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Post Number: 731
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 11:42 am: |
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Hi Sitkaa,
I think the rest of the universe is healthier due to greater openmindedness and progressive use of reason/logic. Religions do exist on other planets. It's just Earth's volume of believers that creates a unique case study for ET's who are wanting to examine the energies of the spirit for their knowledge evolution. Technologies of the fine matter type could be quickly improved with our planet as the gold standard in the, 'if it works on Earth it'll work anywhere', department. Not exactly a great bragging point!
Earth must have a 'one of a kind' energy layer that rings our planet and shouts, 'anomoly!!!!'.
Ad in another worlds scientific travel brochure for Earth, 'EarthTours-R-Us inc. Book your flight today to this unique destination every scientist must experience at least once every incarnation! -Voted: -Best Destination- in Spirit Solutions Magazine, ...Hurry! Beamship space is limited and fills up quickly! Please note: Earth is a freewill planet and is on the Endangered Civilization list, no contact is highly suggested by The High Council. Special discounts to all Playaren Federation Members!!!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Indi
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 07:31 pm: |
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It is possible that it is Earth's unique history, of being visited and the natural development of the humans here being interfered with, and the 'visitor' methods of introduction and claims, that made Earth more obviously vulnerable to the adoption of beliefs as evident in most of the religions.
If a planet is left to its own development, maybe the beliefs in the 'corn god' or the 'great white buffalo' would have continued to naturally develop for those humans into something a little less insidious and enslaving and more flexible to the growth of understanding.
Anthropologically, 'beliefs' are just attempts to explain the previously unexplainable. As knowledge grows, these beliefs have been shown to change. That appears to be the natural development due to increased knowledge and understanding.
We unfortunately did not have this untained chance at development.
Robyn |
Marbar
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:01 pm: |
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Here is an article that I find interesting:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/dec/23/religion.topstories3 |
Earthling
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Post Number: 348
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 06:33 pm: |
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/the-temple-of-hume
Some of you may appreciate this vid. |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 07:18 pm: |
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Religious people are going too far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14aJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNvnLFgH5BU
They have crossed the line. |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 04:34 pm: |
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Marbar,
this is quite typical for most charismatic churches and reminds me of Sunday School at one of the churches that I used to go to.
Peace, Matt
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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 48
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 06:43 pm: |
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Do anybody think this is true,"we are all born not believing in some god or diety." I think it is true. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 02:41 am: |
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Hi Marbar,
Very insightful material in those two links you provided ..... thankyou.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14aJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNvnLFgH5BU
Quite mind blowing watching how easily people surrender their critical faculties and plunge headlong into accepting superstitious fantasies for reality.
That young guy seems well on the way towards becoming a tele-evangelist.
My head still shaking in disbelief.
Cheers.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:54 am: |
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Hi Ramirez, which only goes to prove it's much easier for someone to "give it up to a higher power". No personal responsibility in that.
Having not been brought up in a religious home (thank god, lol) I remember asking my dad what religion he was because I didn't know. He said he was from the round church so the devil couldn't corner him. So anytime someone asks me what religion I am, that's what I tell them.  |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 842
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:41 pm: |
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Dear friends,
I wanted to make a couple of remarks about the translation we just did of the reader’s question (SB51) about the November 2009 Swiss referendum which bans the building of any further mosques in their steeple-riddled little country. There are four existing mosques.
That’s the trouble with democracies. If the majority is swayed by racist agitprop (agitation & propaganda) and decide to start burning Jews, or banning Islamic houses of worship, then that’s what happens. It’s always been that way. I can understand the legitimate concerns of the natives who oppose cultural change, but the ban on mosques is not only hypocritical, it is downright illegal, if we consider that Switzerland is a signatory of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Not that international law slows down our refugee detention policies here in Australia, or deters any of the other many, many human-rights-offending nations such as the USA, Israel, etc. But that doesn’t make it right in Switzerland, a very nice place I grew to know quite well.
I hope that the recent Swiss example of international lawlessness is just the last gasp of the xenophobic attitude in the West engendered by the USA’s & UK’s fading, fake “War on Terror”, and it’s not a spectre of things to come.
For what it’s worth, I join with Billy in my unqualified condemnation of the Swiss referendum prohibiting the construction of minarets.
Salome,
Dyson |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 04:52 am: |
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Here is a interesting article that I found: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/05/10-reasons-you-should-never-have-a-religion/
It is by Steve Pavlina and he states 10 reasons why your should not have a religion. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1640
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:51 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
Interesting insight, the link.
Well, we should indeed, all just get back to - Relegeon - and NOT Religion.
And we will do so, as mentioned in the Prophecies. In 600-800 years time; or
perhaps even much sooner!??
Just depends on HOW the humans of Earth manifest themselves...in their
Evolution path, of course.
Time to manifest more Creational Spiritual (within the framework of
Relegeon)...than 'Unspiritual' Greedy Materialism and False Dogmas (Cult
Religion), no?
Edward. |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 60
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 06:55 pm: |
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Hi Edward,
In this world in this day and age, a scientists has to prove his claims while a priest don't have to prove anything. It is like when the priest say a few words, he/she is automatically believed and accepted. That comes to show you how bad religion damaged this world. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1650
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:17 am: |
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Hi Marbar.....
Very well put!
Just some time back, I was zapping away and stopped at the EO(Evangelische
Omroep/Evangelist Broadcast) and they were discussing: We do not need
Science...when there is the Bible!
So, this is their way...of belief...which has no cornerstone to fundamental
Creational Truths.
Very Awkward...thinking, if we can call this....'thinking'...?
Edward. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 916
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 02:32 pm: |
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Dear all,
These are interesting, for the more advanced researcher.
It is indeed "on topic" on this thread since, in general, the worshipers of Mammon (well - Jahbulon, more specifically) are at the centre of the mainstream media discussions, below.
"THE world's top central bankers began arriving in Australia for high-level talks ... "
" ... the two-day talks are shrouded in secrecy ... "
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/world-bankers-meet-in-sydney-as-recovery-fears-intensify/story-e6frfh4f-1225827280461
"Secret Banking Cabal Emerges From AIG Shadows"
"The idea of secret banking cabals that control the country and global economy are a given among conspiracy theorists who stockpile ammo, bottled water and peanut butter. After this week’s congressional hearing into the bailout of American International Group Inc., you have to wonder if those folks are crazy after all."
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aaIuE.W8RAuU
Salome,
Dyson |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 118
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:40 am: |
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Hi Dyson, when people say something is a conspiracy, I ask them what they classify as a conspiracy? Something YOU just heard about? Is it still a conspiracy if a lot of people know about it? Those hills are starting to look better and better, lol.
The WTC is at the heart of it, all the insurance companies took a hit over that. Shortly after 9/11 I saw commercial insurance policies increase by over 400%. As a broker we were always against the banks getting in on the insurance action. I mean whose interests would they be serving? The banks of course, not the insured. AIG should never have been bailed out in the first place. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 928
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:45 pm: |
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Dear Sheila, (et al)
Did you see this? (From forum questions to Billy).
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Michael_d
[Posted during March 2007]
Greetings Billy,
Regarding Secret Societies and their negative influence on mankind and the planet, you stated there are secret societies which are entirely harmless. Do you consider such Secret Societies as the Illuminati, the New World Order and Freemasonry harmless?
Thank you.
Answer
The Freemansons as sort of a religious community are harmless, as is also the case with the Illuminati, a group of people who are spreading silly conspiration theories.
What or who is "the New World Order"?
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So. Got that? "the Illuminati (are) a group of people who are spreading silly conspiration theories."
Now we know who the Illuminati REALLY are, not to mention the Freemansons.
;->
Did you see this?
http://theyfly.com/Concealment_vs_Lies.htm
I think Wendelle Stevens put it as well as anyone when he said (I can't cite the exact source, and I'm paraphrasing) - otherwise normal, rational and intelligent people, when confronted with the word "conspiracy" and/or "extraterrestrials" just seem to go completely crazy and no longer make any sense - or words to that effect. He seemed to be suggesting that there might be some sinister reason for this, in my opinion. I know that the "C" word ("conspiracy") tends to upset a lot of the Meierite religious dogmatists. (Just watch!) And in a very similar way to the way his beamship photos are initially repellent to those who only look at the surface and see toys on strings, Billy deals with other sensitive topics similarly, and for the same reason. So if you employ his remarks as hints to drive your own independent research (gain knowledge) INSTEAD of simply BELIEVING him like a religious zealot, you are doing what he wants those of us who are not believers to do, and - my goodness! - the things you learn! It often means purchasing and carefully studying the (German language) books to which he refers, but when you so do ......
conspiracy - The act of two or more persons, called conspirators, working secretly to obtain some goal, usually understood with negative connotations.
theory - an unproven* conjecture.
"Von den profitgierigen Verschwörungstheoretikern, die ihren horrenden Schwachsinn und Unsinn verbreiten, ist ihr Tun unverantwortlich und kriminell, denn mit ihrem grenzenlosen Quatsch treiben sie verstandesmässig schwache oder sonstwie unbedarfte oder gläubige Menschen in Angst und Schrecken, jagen sie durch tausend Höllen und unter Umständen gar in den Selbstmord."
(The deeds of the profit-greedy conspiracy theorists, who spread their horrendous dimwittedness and nonsense, are irresponsible and criminal, because, with their boundless hogwash, they drive the weak in regard to understanding, or otherwise lowbrow or gullible humans, into angst and terror, hounding them through a thousand hells and, under certain circumstances, even to suicide.)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb35.htm
"Poor little idiots want to offset their stupidity, their lack of recognition, lack of wisdom and deficient honesty with dishonest attacks and defamations in order to thereby iron out their damaged or weak image and their underdeveloped intelligence. Truly, an effective presentation of evidence through reason and understanding is an enormous challenge that arouses all know-it-alls, antagonists, critics and eternal mischief-makers to opposition, who are the humans who already want to strike back before they have begun with their vicious, antagonistic, defamatory, mischievous, mendacious and critical attacks." - Billy, March 2007
*http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.sdw142.DerfalscheWeg.htm
I just LOVE Billy Meier, older the the oldest, wiser than the wisest!
He is SOOOO smart!! :-))))))))))
"Love and wisdom belong together, because Creation and Its laws are love and wisdom at the same time." Semjase at the 10th contact
Cheers!
Dyson
"Wer die Wahrtheit nicht mit seinem Verstande, sondern mit Glauben erfassen will, der kann die Früchte aus ihr nicht ernten." - OM 53:26.
(He who will not comprehend the truth with his reason, but with his belief, cannot harvest the fruit from it.) |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 944
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:20 pm: |
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Selective Brain Damage Modulates Human Spirituality, Research Reveals
ScienceDaily (Feb. 11, 2010) — New research provides fascinating insight into brain changes that might underlie alterations in spiritual and religious attitudes. The study, published by Cell Press in the February 11 issue of the journal Neuron, explores the neural basis of spirituality by studying patients before and after surgery to remove a brain tumor.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100210124757.htm
(Thanks to Mariann!) |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 01:58 am: |
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Hmm i have a doubt,
if a highly spiritual person's brain got damaged or suffered an injury,due to an accident..will it be easy for him to become spiritual again[assuming,he goes in that path] than the first time...
coz also semjase suffered brain damage and had to learn all the knowledge she lost...
Is wisdom also lost in her brain damage?
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 126
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 12:04 pm: |
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Hi Dyson, so what conspiracies are the illuminati spreading? Maybe you can enlighten me on what is coming directly from them, so I know what to watch out for.
Hi Mahigitam, after my father-in-law awoke from a 7 week coma, he had to learn to walk and talk all over again. The bleed in his brain (from a stroke) was the size of a golf ball. During his coma he remembers flying over the top of the hospital and looking down at the smoke stacks.
His memories and wisdom came back over time, he didn't have to relearn these. It almost seems like the brain has a way of re-wiring itself.
He was not a religious person before and that didn't change, but yes he seems to be a lot more spiritual. I always assumed it had more to do with his NDE. |
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