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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 949
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila,

I am legally forbidden - at the cost of returning to prison to do SERIOUS time - to tell you anything more than I've already told you. Use your own research initiatives. Even saying that is risky. Be careful.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

" It almost seems like the brain has a way of re-wiring itself. "

It DOES! It DOES! :-))))

Best news since BEAM!

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2558852.htm

Buy Norman Doidge's astonishing book!

It will change your life and it is EXACTLY what Billy has been saying for years.

CHEERS!
Dyson
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila....


Your: During his coma he remembers flying over the top of the hospital and
looking down at the smoke stacks.

That is what is called - Consciousness Shifting -. Man still takes such
experience as - Out Of Body Experience -, which it is not.

If you are interested, in Consciousness Shifting (and details), you can
utilize the Search Engine; this has been discussed in the past.


Yes, the Neuro cells, and all wiring, so to speak, have to regenerate
themselves with the whole of the Material Consciousness(Brain). In most cases,
a patient will recover; depending on the WILL...of the individuals, to add.
[Circumstantial aspect, again...as usual! NEVER give up!]


Edward.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 128
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Dyson, I'm really sorry to learn that your freedom of speech has been taken away from you. You and Vivienne have done so much to help the mission. I feel bad that you aren't allowed to speak your mind.
I wish that book had been around 20 years ago, when my father-in-law could have used it. Amazing that stroke victims who are paralyzed are able to re-learn how to use their paralyzed arm again. Glad to see that psychiatrists are finally getting into something that's been used by alternative pratitioners for years (and disregarded by the medical community).
Hi Edward, yes I recall reading that and yes, he was/is a fighter. The doctor said that he was brain dead and if he ever came out of the coma, he would be a vegetable. They obviously had no idea what he was capable of. :-) But it did confirm for me that not all doctors know what they're talking about.
I think we better get back to religion now, sorry for leading this topic astray.
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Sitkaa
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Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love and be aware.
Further admonitions are just didactics.
Love is always the way
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Ramirez
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 03:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some interesting viewing concerning some of the lords most righteous tele-evangelists and miracle healers. By their works ye shall know them.

Pastor Benny Hinn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPQ9Cxz5So&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPIXkVufb0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eatdyOAVLew&feature=related


Benny Hinn's brother Henry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzkAbjO5tzs&feature=related


Benny Hinn's wife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJU_NZFtZc&feature=related

Stadiums full of ecstatic devotees ..... easy to understand why .... the lord is with them and alas we struggle on almost alone ..... almost :-)
Cheers.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 75
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Religion is the mest terrible thing for this planet as well as other planets. Religion takes advantage of and prey on weak people.

When stricken with hard times, men and women go to religion thinking that parying to aa imaginary creator-god will fix their problems. A good example of this is when a woman ended-up going through a bad divorce.

The woman has divorce her husband, now she is sad and confused. So, she decided to go to a church where the the priest or priestess tell her that the so-called creator-god will bless her with a new husband. As ome time went on, the woman had got a new husband and she is now happy. now, the woman divorce her second husband and once again, she go back to the priest or priestess. He or she tell the woman that the creator-god will bles her with a new husband once again.

Now, I wonder what is so great about religion that men and women keep going back to it. It appears that woman are more religious than men and the keep saying their creator-god will bless them with a new husband.

In this link:
http://theyfly.com/God_Delusion.html

I read the part that four-fifths of the human population here on Earth profess a belief in one of the six world religions. If Ptaah did conduct that study, he need to see if that most of that four-fifths are women.
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Jonzie
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar, this is loaded question. All respect, Friend, but the current population: women outnumber men. (On the average, any given population is 60 percent women and children). It seems logical women are going to outnumber men in many catagories, good and bad.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Moderators.....

It seems that a posting to Marbar is not posted?

Can anyone explain, please??


Edward.


Hi Edward, Please rephrase your answer... it is sensitive topic discussing male vs. female.
Peace.. Badr


(Message edited by badr on March 01, 2010)
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Badar (and Marbar)....


WHO is discussing Male vs Female!??

NOT ME! Either is Marbar!

So, there seems to be women who do not agree and seem to be 'insulted' with
that posting!?

That is of course very ridiculous.

This is just a male female adult discussion, as far as I am concerned, as
usual.

We all have our experiences, and I mentioned mine. And if, anyone has not
experienced as I have, well....that is not me to blame.

That IS my experience. Billy even mentioned people need something to look up
to and cling on, in their endeavor through life, and specially in bad times,
obvious, and which Religion; same thoughts...here(; and pick it up where they
left off).

If you/we take say 50 women and 50 men (or any other equal on both sides),
with the same scenario mentioned, it would of course, still generate that the
majority of women would still out run the men.

Good example: Look at all the past Cult Religious movements and what not,
where the women becomes the maids/slaves of their False Prophet or preacher,
whatever. THEY are...First Game! This has (re)occurred...oh...so many a-times!

Not to forget, the countless Brides of Jesus...the known NUNS, etc., whom wish
to be his brides when they make it to Heaven! And, other type of Cult
Religious movements, similar, with a dominate female structure. Which is quite
on the rise. With no men participation allowed!

There are just certain aspects the WOMEN out run the men, on....and there are
ceratin aspects where MEN....out run the women, on! They BOTH function in
their OWN ways! And they BOTH experience Logic in a Different way! [Has been
proven in many cases.]

So, that there is a majority of women on Earth, does not have to per se fit in
this scenario, as Jonzie mentioned. And, should realize, that other thoughts
have other opinions, and will not per se be aligned with her (or whom ever's)
thoughts.

We should just have to LEARN to accept each others opinions without
overheating, ourselves, and NOT seeing the Negative in it! Than, we are
Seeking within the framework Creational Spirituality. Thus, manifest 'Neutral
Positive', I would say. And NOT take it all that personal! Hench: WE are all
learning! And Life is a - Give And Take - (process[ing]); comes from BOTH
sides!

Sinds the beginning of this board I (and others) have predominately talked
about nothing but MEN (Criminal Presidents, Liar Contactees, Liar Channelers,
etc...)...here in general(well about 99.99,5%), and that makes me/us a Gent...
basher!? And insulting them, even!

Of course...not! Ridiculous! And that small percentage be it for women, is
surely at it's minimum, and has no intention to be offensive; which speaks for
itself.


Thus: Marbar, brings up an excellent relevant summary, relating to this
Religious aspect; it be divorce related or everyday practise. And which should
be examined, for those whom feel the need. And remember: this too....is still
Seeking within the framework of Creational Spirituality, and which IS allowed!

There are always individuals whom find this information relevant, and useful,
we should keep in mind.

It is a very perceptive posting of Marbar. He is just seeking for an answer,
just as anyone else would do.


AGAIN: this has NOTHING to do with Male vs female, Badar.

Let us see this posting in the light of: Neutral Positivity.

It is just the Distinctions which Distincts the male and female from
eachother. And there is nothing wrong with that!


Edward.
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 62
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am a woman and I was not insulted by the post. I was merely pointing out statistical population. I rarely agree with Edward but am strongly against denying anyone their opinion. How are we to learn if we do not have opinions? More so, how are we to learn if our opinion is the only opinion we ever see? Diversity is good, educational. An open mind is a terrible thing to waste
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 63
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please post his answer. I agree Marbar was asking a question about religion, giving an example of his understanding through the culture he has experienced. There was nothing to be insulted about.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Johnnybalmain
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
An interesting subject that I see defines maybe the evolution process in its entirety.
Seeing as the spirit has no sex per say and that the lessons that must be learn't has each its own requirement then probably as we incarnate over and over again it could be that more advanced spirit forms need the female existence to satisfy their evolutive needs. This could be why the female has a tendency to be more caring and harmonious. I personally have no problem with listening to both sexes express their opinions and feelings. Maybe I might incarnate as a female next time around so I would like to make it a suitable place for my next existence to evolve on an earth that has no sexual discrimination whatsoever.Does this make sense?
Peace John
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Marbar
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Badr, can you post Edward's response to my post number 75?

I found an article that could support my post: http://www.livescience.com/culture/090227-religion-men-women.html
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Freddy3980
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar, I have the same opinion as you. I also notice this mostly with Catholics/Christians, I am not sure about other religions/cults. I was going to ask Billy what was his opinion about this, but I decided not too since I don't think its a big issue. Doesn't really matter who is most religious, the only thing that matters is that it should stop for the well being of the whole world.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi all

Women tend to be more logical as Billy has explained already.. BUT they are taken at very early ages, to the town's church, mosque or synagogue and trained in the parent's (her mother's mostly) belief system.

so the educational systems take advantage of the openness and naivete (lack of experience, wisdom or judgment) of the little children, who grow up believing whatever version they are told/taught.. thus, they (mostly women) grow up thinking the more logical and right thing to do is to extend the same courtesy to their children and so on and so forth..

men tend to not care about religions, BUT we do go along with the wife, not a very right thing to do, not to upset the woman.. not to cause extra stress on the already feeble nature of interpersonal relationship(s)

so, we are ALL part of the problem, and all part of the solution..

Governments do have a say, but it's up to us at home, to do something..

So, should I divorce? ha ha, nah, even if I did, my kids will be left most likely to the mom, and her catholic beliefs/fears

I rather stick around and tell them truths when they ask.. better than nothing..

And when they grow up, they will have a little more critical eye.. one hopes

Like Michael Jackson used to sing: "I's starting with the man in the mirror, I'm asking him to change his ways.. and no message could have been any clearer.. etc, etc.."

:-) (smiles)
Salome
Carlos
(Trying to keep it brief and concise)
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Earthling
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/03/american-family-associati_n_484022.html

"American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer"
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Justsayno
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Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When my daughter was younger she wanted to go to the Evangelical Free (freak) Kids Club. After going a few times she came home with a passage from the bible saying that because she's a christian, she's better than anyone else and she should not associate with non christians (I think that passage is in John). I sat her down and told her the truth, she is no better or worse than anyone else and to not believe anything different. We talked about how it was already obvious at school, which kids attended this church, because they spewed that type of crap at school. And the same kids would not play with the black kids because their skin colour wasn't white - my daughter was horrified by their actions and their words - we're all the same underneath, she told me :-). She thought about it long and hard and only went one more time and has never had an interest in religion since.
So Carlos, as long as you're there to counteract the effects, you're doing a good job!
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the New York Times, March 6th, 2010:

Defectors Say Church of Scientology Hides Abuse

"Scientology is an esoteric religion in which the faith is revealed gradually to those who invest their time and money to master Mr. Hubbard’s teachings. Scientologists believe that human beings are impeded by negative memories from past lives, and that by applying Mr. Hubbard’s “technology,” they can reach a state known as clear. They may spend hundreds of hours in one-on-one “auditing” sessions, holding the slim silver-colored handles of an e-meter while an auditor asks them questions and takes notes on what they say and on the e-meter’s readings.
By doing enough auditing, taking courses and studying Mr. Hubbard’s books and lectures — for which some Scientologists say they have paid as much as $1 million — Scientologists believe that they can proceed up the “bridge to total freedom” and live to their full abilities as Operating Thetans, pure spirits. They do believe in God, or a Supreme Being that is associated with infinite potential."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07scientology.html?pagewanted=all


And from Asket, February 3rd, 1953:

131. Sind es zur Zeit und auch noch später Amerika, Russland und China, die sehr stark nach der versklavenden Weltherrschaft drängen, so werden es zu späterem Zeitpunkt nicht die jüdischen Zionisten sein, wie viele Menschen vermuten, die durch massenmörderische Gewalttaten und mit Hilfe der christlichen Religionen ihr Blutschwert schärfen, um sich die Erde untertan zu machen, sondern kleinere Mächte und verschiedene bösartige Sekten, wobei eine solche recht bösartige auf einen gewissen Ron Hubbard zurückführen wird.

131. At that time, and also even later, it will be America, Russia and China, that very strongly push for enslaving world domination, so it will not be at a later point in time the Jewish Zionists, as many people presume, who sharpen their blood sword through mass-murdering acts of violence and with the help of the Christian religion, to subjugate the Earth, rather smaller powers and various malignant sects, whereby one such really malignant one leads back to a certain Ron Hubbard.

132. Bereits bereiten sich diesbezüglich die ersten entscheidenden Schläge vor, um die Macht zu erweitern und gefährliche landbeherrschende Stellungen zu schaffen.

132. In this regard they are already preparing the first decisive strikes in order to expand their power and to create dangerous country-controlling positions.

133. Der Erdenmensch hüte sich daher vor jeder Hilfe für solche machtgierige Sekten und Herrscher, denn die kleinsten Hilfen funktionieren sie zur tödlichen Waffe wider die Helfenden um, um damit der Erfüllung ihrer Weltherrschaftssucht Schritt für Schritt näherzukommen.

133. The Earth human should protect himself from providing any help to such power-greedy sects and rulers, because they cause the smallest help to become a deadly weapon against the helper, in order, therewith, to come closer, step by step, to the fulfillment of their addiction to world domination.

134. Der Sektierismus ist ebenso allein auf Geld- und Machtgier ausgerichtet wie gewisse Machthaber auf die versklavende Weltherrschaft.

134. Sectarianism is just as much aligned only with greed for money and power as certain holders-of-power are aligned with enslaving world-domination.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.v1p312-319.htm

I saw the Scientologists' "Bible", by L. Ron Hubbard, for sale (new and sealed up) in a big bookstore recently, and was sorely tempted to buy it. But it was a big, fat, HORRIFICALLY expensive book, and I just couldn't bear the idea of contributing in any way to their evil cause, so I passed it up. I've read a lot of religious texts, but not this one. Yet.

Salome,
Dyson
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dyson, Which book do you want?
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Darren
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the book you want to read is called "Dianetics", don't bother, coz its really crap (boring) reading. Its also makes no sense and is contradictive too. A really stupid book.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hiya Norm,

I don't know what it's called. It might be "Dianetics". All I remember is that it was huge and evidently The Book of Scientology.

Cheers!
Dyson
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Newtown
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think i have seen the book you are talking about.... Someone i know has one (they are a collector of books, long story) ... either way, its not as daunting as it looks, text is huge! lots of pictures, did read it, just leafed thru the pages.. waste of time in every sense,.... looks like it must have been expensive to produce, but probably took only a couple hours to write the text was so big.
Hodari
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well if you have an exact title i may be able to get you an Ebook copy.
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