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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 269
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:09 pm: | 
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"The Archdiocese of Munich and Freising, where Benedict served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982, says that a working group, established last month after allegations of abuse in a church-run school, would be expanded to include an external, independent legal office"
The independent legal office seem to be a way out to prevent such cases from going to public litigation instead going to a suppression layer within church itself.
I know from one of my friend who was working in a NGO in tribal belts of India about 3-4 years back, that she personally knew a paedophil victim of a 60+ year old missionary priest who was offering salvation and education plus a one time payment of Rs 500 to whoever converts to Christianity in that area. She offered to help the victim and go to court, but the childs family was scared and in turn threatened her not to go to police/court. The church paid the family Rs 1000 ($25), a big amount for them when they earn Rs 300-400 per month. She told me that these people are so poor and uneducated that the childs father could not tell her his girls proper age. Finally she was so upset and frustrated, that she quit her job explaining the matter to her boss who was initially supportive, but later told her that the matter is religiously sensitive and there are "political connections" of the church in the area and the ruling party needs Christian votes in that State.
Good thing is that these news are coming more in the forefront for the last few years. I suspect it is nothing new, but only awareness is increasing. But people in rich countries need to be made aware also about these and should be told to donate only to non-religious charities.
Here is a related article which described the trend: http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=73&page=30
BTW, Christianity is not alone in producing sex-scandals. A recent sensation in my country about a Hindu Godman running sex racket: http://www.zeenews.com/news607456.html
Salome.
Suv
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Darren
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Post Number: 196
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:57 pm: |
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Hi Marbar,
I got that from the 2006 international UFO conference. Wendelle Stevens was talking about it.
I don't remember hearing that the Catholic church will slowly fade away but instead I heard (billy say somewhere) that it will soon collapse which implies to me that it will go quickly instead of slowly fading away. If this is not the case, I hope someone will clarify this as I would like to know, like you, which one it is. |
Darren
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:27 am: |
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I also remember hearing Billy say somewhere (possibly the billy answer questions section) that the Catholic Church hasn't got long to go too, which again implies that it will go quickly. |
Sonik_01
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:41 am: |
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Darren,
It was mentioned in the Henoch Prophecies where the current Pope (John Paul II at the time) was third from last, therefore Benedict is second last and that the last Pope, Petrus Romanus, will be the last Pope before the church falls. |
Earthling
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Post Number: 403
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 05:14 am: |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-wolff/is-the-pope-toast_b_496910.html
"This isn't getting much attention in the US, but it's a big one: The Pope's in trouble.
Trouble, trouble. Not-going-away trouble. Run-out-of-office trouble." |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 06:06 am: |
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Hello Elias_g,
You have a difficult decision to make that only YOU can make. It may be best to delay this decision for a while until you have worked out the cause and effect of all your options.
I would be glad to discuss this with you off forum if you would like as I have some experience in dealing with christian relatives and how I learned to handle their desire to control and manipulate. mgbeattie@charter.net
Peace be to you, Matt
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Newtown
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 04:57 pm: |
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what do the contact notes say about how this pope will lose this post?
Hodari
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 05:57 pm: |
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According to the notes the next pope will be the last, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the religion will end. I can't give a reference, but I think Billy has said that it will still last for a very long time.
A religion exists as long as anyone practices it, right? Even if there are very little believers left...
David
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 181
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:06 am: |
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Hi David, laws around here have made it so it will last a long time - money wise. In town here, we have to fill out a form asking if we are catholic. Then the portion of our property taxes which go towards schools are either directed to the public system or the catholic system. It doesn't matter if you're a non practising catholic or you're a catholic and your kids go to public school as long as you tick the box that says you're a catholic, your funds will be directed to the catholic school.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 405
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:00 am: |
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http://www.popeater.com/2010/03/15/elton-john-reveals-ex-threw-himself-under-a-truck/
""He was so tortured by the conflicting views between his sexuality and his strong religious beliefs that he chose to take his own life," he said. "It is very sad indeed."" |
Marbar
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:12 pm: |
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Hi Earthling,
Do these religious leaders care about the damage they are doing? The answer will always be "no". Is religion worth it? The answer is once again "no". This man chose his religious beliefs over what makes him really happy. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 05:17 pm: |
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I doubt that I've mentioned it before but two of the young women in our newest film were impacted by religious insanity, one was actually rejected by her own parents for not following their religion.
These women, all but one of whom know nothing about the Meier case, all embody the teaching of self-responsibility and non-victimhood that are central to the spiritual teaching.
You may want to see and hear their stories. |
Marbar
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
The religion that seems to make people do that when their parents reject their own childrem must be the Jehova witnesses' religion.
An update on that Catholic abuse scandel: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8572875.stm |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 05:12 pm: |
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Marbar,
You nailed it. |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 236
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 05:52 pm: |
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There is a Jehova Witness where I work. She is not even allowed to sign a birthday card.
Jehova Witness is a very enslaving religion.
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:59 am: |
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Hi Stephen I used to feel sorry for the JW in my class at school. He had to leave class when the teacher was teaching evolution. Without even discussing evolution he missed out on learning about all the animals and what they are made of and what makes them tick. Also we had a religion class that he wasn't allowed to attend which basically taught us about all the different religions in the world. How can that be a bad thing, to know that stuff? I didn't understand the JW's aversion to knowledge until much later. The reason they don't celebrate birthdays is because whats-her-name decided she wanted John the Baptist's head on a platter for her birthday. But they did hone in on the fact that Jesus's birthday was not Dec. 24, it was simply Ra's birthday - the birth of the Roman Sun god. So because of this, birthdays must be bad? I remember my dad telling me that he was a teenager before they realized that his and his brother's birthday were on the same day (or maybe they just said that because they couldn't remember?). I guess they had more important work to do (like surviving) than to keep track of something as trivial as ones birthday (and no, they were not JW's). And birthdays, personally I quit celebrating mine - just so I'll never age, lol.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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Sceptic challenges guru to kill him live on TV
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7067989.ece
"When a famous tantric guru boasted on television that he could kill another man using only his mystical powers, most viewers either gasped in awe or merely nodded unquestioningly. Sanal Edamaruku’s response was different. “Go on then — kill me,” he said. "
In nature there are no names... - mahigitam
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Kingman
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Post Number: 786
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 11:12 pm: |
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Excellent linked article Mahigitam! Mr Edamaruku’s job is surely needed here in the USA where religious beliefs have resurged since the Bush Administration grabbed power. Unfortunately the corporate media rulers will not allow sanity of any form to spoil their roost.
I love it...
"Go on then - kill me,"
...priceless!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
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Post Number: 1724
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 01:57 am: |
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Hi Stephen and Sheila....
If you conduct a Search, you may find how the Jehovah's...Harassed me, here at
home! I mentioned it here, in the past.
It almost came that far that I was going to charge them for: Disturbing The
Peace(; 'huis verde-breuk', as we call it here).
But, ONE call and they backed out!
So, if they or others bother you in a very extreme manner, you can charge them
with the above mentioned; at least, here you can.
Edward. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 410
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 05:47 am: |
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Door to door salvation peddlers can be easily deflected by a sure fire repelant.
Godgone the wonder antipest spray especially developed for controlling Mormons, Jehovas Witness, Seventh Day Adventists, Catholics.
Go to your local hardware store and purchase a set of adhesive letters to make up the message:
We are not interested in discussing religion.
Paste these on your front door. So far for about 15 years it has worked 100%.
Cheers.
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 237
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 06:12 am: |
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Hi Justsayno and Edward
My dad has been a member of different religions in his time, Christianity, Catholic and I think another 2 more. He was never a member of the JW's but I remember once when the JW's was on our front door trying to recruit more members into their cult.
They said to my dad that when a person gets a cold shiver up their spine it is the spirit of "jesus" entering your body. lol
They seriously wanted my dad to become part of their Cult. They would not leave and when they finally did they wanted my dad to call them in a few days with an answer to joining their cult and going to one of their meetings in the local community hall. My dad didnt call them and luckly they didnt come back to our front door.
Regarding knowledge and religions.....
There is no knowledge within religions, only blind belief. Once a person of a religious faith starts to take the time to study knowledge and science etc there is a possibility to see life in a different way. This different way goes against religious teachings because first of all you realise the Earth is far far much older than religious teachings tell you it is.
For example Dinosaurs, 
Religions are all to do with enslavement of the human being and moving them away from knowledge, life and freedom. With a religion you basically give away everything to them, even your own self responsibility. You are a slave to a degenerate dictatorship.
Birthday celebrations are harmless, I cannot see why celebrating someones birthday is bad if celebrated in a sensible way. Those JW's are deluded.
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Marbar
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 09:35 am: |
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About these Jehova witnesses, they seem to show up a people's front doors at 10:30am on a Saturday mourning. A Jehova witness that keep coming to my house, he gave me a little book, but I never read that book and never will. I want to tell hime to stay away from me, but he knows about my family. Plus, I live in a heavy religious town that makes it even worse.
The pope blast the Irish bishops 'grave errors':
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35960566/ns/world_news-europe |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1097
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 05:56 pm: |
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Dear Stephen,
How fundamentalist Christians explain dinosaurs:
Cheers!
Dyson |
