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Justsayno
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:04 am: | 
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Hi Edward, glad you got rid of them, never thought of that, charging them with harrassment. Me, I would sooner argue with them (just like I argue with non profit organizations on the phone). Recently I had a christian organization phone me who fed hungry children in (wait for it) Canada. Couldn't they find starving children anywhere else? I finally told him I was an atheist and he said they feed atheist children too, lol.
I like that Ramirez, godgone, I'm sure there's a market for it, lol.
Hi Stephen, if I got shivers up my spine, I would just think that I was cold. Religions are quite adept at incorporating dinosaurs into their religion. A few years ago a guy I know opened the creation museum in a local village and they are able to link the two together. Poor Harry, I liked him better when he was a drunk before he got all religious.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1112
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 08:49 pm: |
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Believe nothing,
No matter where you read it,
Or who has said it,
Not even if I have said it,
Unless it agrees with your own reason
And your own common sense.
Buddha |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:13 am: |
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Believe it
when it rings true,
no matter whence it comes,
nor how it gets here,
if it is true,
believe it.
Love is always the way
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 230
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:34 am: |
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Conversely,
"For a man to achieve all that is demanded of him, he must regard himself as greater than he is."
- Goethe
Love is always the way
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Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 433
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 04:12 pm: |
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Sitkaa wrote:
if it is true,
believe it.
Based on the Figu material, and commonsense/logic, if something is true then you don't have to believe it as you now instead, 'know' it.
This is one of the central pillars in the teaching, for each and every individual to seek to remove the veil created by the ability to imagine and fantasize thus, to believe things.
It would be advantageous to study the difference between belief and knowing via the Figu material, and check to see where in our existence belief is still playing a large part. Getting to the core of this will greatly free one from living in the past or future, and assist in experience the 'now' and the 'true reality' that is before us.
One must witness every minute of the day if one is to find these beliefs that lurk in our consciousness block.
I am not talking about shallow, non-consequential use of the concept 'belief' such as someone asking "is Henry in the other room?" answered by "I believe he is", rather the way we view our reality is the issue at hand here.
Belief and uncertainty go hand in hand.
There is certainty in knowing.
Robyn |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 231
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 05:50 pm: |
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As I see it,
first is becoming aware of it,
then is agreeing with it or believing in it,
then comes merging with it, understanding it, knowing it.
Love is always the way
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Syn
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Post Number: 263
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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there [*** edited] idiots if they think fasting will do that.
i mean that in all honesty.
(Message edited by indi on March 26, 2010)
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 414
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:01 pm: |
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JHendrix wrote:
Irrationality and religion go together. What's new?
Poppy wrote:
Fasting to death, rattlesnake bites, strapping explosives to your body or the Catholic Inquisitions -- all the same religious fanatacism gone wrong.
croixian1 wrote:
Poppy, you said it all. Religious fanaticism is a brain disease. It affects the weak, desperate minded.
ColinWard wrote:
Another senseless death caused by moronic religious beliefs.
CrazyIvan wrote:
"and her family said she was mentally sound". Yep. Uh huh.
straightup wrote:
Some nuty people do anything for a myth of a person they have never seen, or heard from
Murf wrote:
Religion poisons everything.
kbs48 wrote:
Todays winner of the darwin award,by thinning the herd.
bill_b wrote:
Oh I love it. Further proof that there really is no god and all religion is just a farce created to control the weak and feeble minded. If she was doing what god wanted he wouldn't have let her die. If catholic priests were doing gods work, they wouldn't molest little children, if muslims were fighting a holy war, they wouldn't kill innocent people. Religion is a means to allow a handful of people to control the thoughts and actions of the masses. Wake up and use your own brain and stop waiting for some fictional character to provide you the answers that you should be working toward yourself.
Good news is there is one less wacko on the planet polluting the minds of others :-)
straightup wrote:
It's a shame many of these Florida women don't have the will power of this dead woman. I mean can you imagine if all women here would fast for 2 weeks, then eat for a week, then fast 2 weeks. In a year the women here would start looking good, then if some company can develope a good cellulite cream, pill, it would be the icing on the cake. Alot of work needs to be done with the women here in florida.
lanienus wrote:
I wonder which deity she was listening to? I would be changing religions if my deity was calling to tell me to starve to death,
grab a rattlesnake, drink drano, or blow myself up. But then, man has always created his gods and therefore they reflect the mind of mankind, however twisted and freaky.
Rufus wrote:
I wonder what Jesus told her when she got to heaven?
Cheers.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 04:17 pm: |
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In the Catholic and Islam religions and maybe in other religions as well, there is a pratice called "fasting". Followers pratice this to get closer to their so-called creator-gods. They give up something for a certain amount of time in order to accomplished this. It can also have some terrible consequences: http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/research/polk-woman-who-died-alone-while-fasting-was-following-gods-call-husband/1079553 |
Marbar
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 06:59 pm: |
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The Catholic cardinals defended the pope on the abuse scandels. They also criticized The New York Times in unusaully harsh attack:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_church_abuse
The pope now has immunity, but he should still get punished. The reason is, he covered-up abuse scandels: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100401/wl_nm/us_pope_abuse
Sometime last month, I have noticed that the picture that Semjase drew of Jehova, he is dressed exactly like how the the popes are dressed. |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 11:16 am: |
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Hi all
Just when one thinks religious belief could not get any more insane.
Filipino Catholics crucify themselves to mark Good Friday
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/philippines/7547954/Filipino-Catholics-crucify-themselves-to-mark-Good-Friday.html
I think they all need a copy of Talmud Jmmanuel
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Edward
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Post Number: 1735
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 12:59 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
Yes, excellent perception of you.....
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1736
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 01:04 am: |
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Hi Stepehen.....
Truly: Cult Religious Madness!
An every year display.
I even once watched how one nailed individual fell of his cross! Think they
forgot to rope him. Some damaged palms and feet he has! That, must hurt!!
Edward. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 245
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 11:01 am: |
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Hi Edward
All these persons are doing is,
Re-inacting Roman capital punishment.
Damaging their bodies and psyche
and not getting closer to their God or any God or saviour, they dont exist.
As you and all already understand 
I never heard of or seen persons doing this sort of thing, I knew persons cut themselves but not nail someone to a cross.
Madness!!
Thanks
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:40 pm: |
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Greetings,
you ain't seen nothing yet. try joining the crowd, for just a few seconds, handling the ropes pulling the Black Nazarene statue during a procession around Quiapo Church, Manila, Philippines every January 9th.
you should be thankful you are now at your level of knowing and understanding. but do not bet on it, sometime ago in previous lives, you could have been far worst than they are.
Jun,
My will be done |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1121
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 07:07 pm: |
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 313
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:32 pm: |
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Ha ha ha. Dyson, this link has an updated number of 33 million kills by God.
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-many-has-god-killed-complete-list.html
Salome.
Suv
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 422
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 04:23 am: |
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Suv, that website has an incorrect # of those killed from the Biblical flood. But they also don't count the miners killed recently (by God).
http://ecopolitology.org/2010/04/09/westboro-baptist-church-gets-out-protested-in-west-virginia/
"members of the radical Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas showed up in Charleston, West Virginia on Thursday to tell the world that the reason the Upper Big Branch Coal Mine accident happened is because God is punishing America for tolerating homosexuality." |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1122
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 04:27 pm: |
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Dear friends,
Billy reckons that Christianity, all by itself - not taking all the other genocidal cults into consideration - has been responsible for the deaths of about a hundred million people on this planet alone. The figure elsewhere would be utterly inconceivable, given the history with which the Plejaren provide us.
68. Die irdischen Ideologien und die eigentlichen Sekten und Religionen insbesondere sowie die irdischen machtpolitischen Machenschaften sind zu einer Gefahr geworden, die sich langsam und t�dlich auszubreiten.
68. The terrestrial ideologies, and actual sects and religions in particular, as well as the terrestrial power-political machinations, have become a danger which spreads out slowly and fatally.
69. Nicht genug damit, dass weltenraumfahrende Rassen durch den irdisch-ideologischen und religi�sen Wahnsinn bereits drei ihrer Heimatplaneten in Aufruhr versetzt haben und durch aussenstehende Kr�fte wieder unter Kontrolle gebracht werden mussten, treibt der Erdenmensch auch seine Welt und das ganze Sonnensystem in die gef�hrliche N�he des Verderbens.
69. Were it not enough that space-faring races, through the terrestrial ideological and religious insanity, already shifted three of their homeland planets into uproar, which then had to be brought back under control by outside powers, the Earth human also drives his world and the entire solar system dangerously close to destruction.
70. Drei der Raumfahrt f�hige Rassen aus fernen Galaxien dieses Universums entsandten vor weniger als 1130 Erdenjahren ihre Expeditionsschiffe und stiessen zur Erde vor.
70. Less than 1130 Earth years ago, three races capable of space travel, from far galaxies of this universe, dispatched their expedition ships, and advanced to the Earth.
71. Mit kleinen Aufkl�rern erkundeten sie diese Welt und traten auch in Kontakt mit priesterlichen Erdenmenschen, heimlich und unerkannt, um nicht Schrecken und Angst zu verbreiten.
71. They explored this world with small scout craft, and also made contact with priestly Earth humans, secretly and unrecognised, in order not to spread terror and angst.
72. Von den Erdenmenschen h�rten und lernten sie den Wahnsinn ihrer Ideologien und Religionen und glaubten sich pl�tzlich in ihrer Sch�pfungsphilosophie und in ihrer Bewusstseins- und Geistesevolution irregeleitet und benachteiligt.
72. They heard and learned from the Earth humans the insanity of their ideologies and religions and suddenly they believed themselves to be disadvantaged and falsely led in their own philosophy of Creation and in their own evolution of consciousness and spirit.
73. Als bewusstseinsm�ssig und geistig noch weit unterentwickelte Lebensform vermochte der Erdenmensch diese fremden Lebensformen in Zweifel zu st�rzen und Zwist unter sie zu s�en.
73. As a life form still very spiritually underdeveloped and underdeveloped in consciousness, the Earth humans were able to throw these foreign life forms into doubt, and to sow discord among them.
74. Doch war denn das ein Wunder, wenn bedacht wird, dass sehr hoch entwickelte Lebensformen aus fremden Galaxien die Erde besuchen und hier pl�tzlich davon unterrichtet werden, dass sie als sehr weit entwickelte Rasse von der Sch�pfung benachteiligt worden sein sollen, weil sich angeblich die Sch�pfung einer noch sehr unterentwickelten Rasse pers�nlich kundgetan und sie selbst als viel h�here Lebensform �bergangen haben soll.
74. Yet, was that any wonder then, if it is considered that very highly developed life forms from foreign galaxies visit the Earth, and here suddenly are instructed that they, as a race which has developed very far, are to have been disadvantaged by Creation, because, allegedly, Creation personally made Itself known to a still very underdeveloped race, and they themselves, as a much higher life form, were passed over.
75. Wo war denn hier die Schuld zu finden, dass die Sch�pfung einen eingeborenen Sohn schuf und auf die Erde zu einem armen unterentwickelten Volke versetzte und diesen eingeborenen Sohn nicht zu den viel h�her entwickelten Lebensformen kreierte?
75. Where was the blame to be found here, that Creation created its only begotten son, and transferred him to Earth to a poor, underdeveloped people, and did not create this only begotten son for the much higher developed life forms?
76. Also wurden diese Wahnsinnsfakten auf den drei fernen Welten verbreitet und den Rassen kundgetan, die bis anhin seit Jahrtausenden in Frieden und Liebe und in v�lliger Harmonie mit allen Lebensformen und untereinander gelebt hatten.
76. Thus this insane information was spread on three distant worlds, and announced to the races, which had, for thousands of years, lived in peace, love and in complete harmony among themselves, and with all forms of life.
77. Der Wahnsinn der irdischen Religionen wurde von Wissenschaftlern aufgegriffen und neuerliche Expeditionen zur Erde gesandt, um in jahrelanger Arbeit alle erforderlichen religi�sen Fakten zu erforschen.
77. The insanity of the terrestrial religions was taken up by scientists, and further expeditions were sent to Earth in order to work for years to investigate all required religious facts.
78. Nach der R�kkehr dieser Expeditionen wurde nach genauen Abkl�rungen beschlossen, alle V�lker nach der irdischen Christenreligion zu belehren, und zwar in alle belangen.
78. After the return of these expeditions, it was concluded, after exact clarifications, that all peoples would be instructed according to the the terrestrial Christian religion, and indeed, in all matters.
79. Dies war ein t�dlicher Fehler, denn innerhalb von nur 11 Jahren wandelte sich die friedvolle und bisher nur nach den Sch�pfungsgesetzen lebende Menschheit der einen fernen Welt zum glaubensm�ssig christlichen Ebenbild des Erdenmenschen.
79. This was a fatal error, because, within only eleven years, this peaceful humankind from a distant planet, having previously lived only by the creational laws, changed itself into the faith-based, Christian image of the Earth human.
80. Erst entstanden Kampf und Unfrieden in engsten Kreisen, dann weitete sich aber alles sehr schnell aus, und es kam zu �ffentlichen Unruhen.
80. At first, fights and discord originated only in the narrowest circles, then, however, everything expanded very quickly, and it came to public unrest.
81. Bald schon mordeten sich die Lebensformen gegenseitig, bis alles zu einem b�sartigen weltweiten Krieg ausartete.
81. Already the life forms soon murdered each other, until everything degenerated into a malicious worldwide war.
82. Es erfolgten letztendlich �bergriffe auf die beiden anderen Welten, wovon die eine dann zerst�rt wurde.
82. Finally encroachments into the two other worlds resulted, one of which was then destroyed.
83. Darauf aufmerksam geworden, griffen endlich andere Raumfahrer-Rassen ein und beendeten gewaltsam den t�dlichen Zwist, der sich bereits langsam ins ganze Sonnensystem hinaustrug.
83. Different space-faring races became attentive to that, and finally intervened, and forcefully terminated the deadly discord, which had already slowly carried itself into the entire solar system.
84. Die durch die Expeditionen hergebrachten irdischen Religionen und das die Vernichtung ausl�sende Christentum wurden jeglicher Lebensform strengstens untersagt.
84. The terrestrial religions, brought there through the expeditions, and the destruction-releasing Christianity, were strictly forbidden to any life forms.
85. Alles bestehende religi�se Material wurde vernichtet und die alte Form des Lebens wurde wieder zum obersten Gesetz.
85. All existing religious material was destroyed and the old way of life again became the highest law.
86. Jeglicher Vorstoss und jeglicher weitere Besuch der Erde wurden verboten, und es wurde gar die Bestimmung erlassen, dass wenn sich einmal unverhofft ein Schiff auf die Erde verirren sollte, und keine Fortkommensm�glichkeit mehr finden sollte, sich die ganze Besatzung mit dem Schiff zusammen total zu eliminieren habe.
86. Any advance, and any further visit to the Earth was forbidden, and a decree was even issued that, if, unexpectedly, a ship should stray onto Earth, and no further possibilities of progress could be found, the entire crew, together with their ship, must totally eliminate itself.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/fermi.htm
I'm reading Billy's latest book - "God Delusion and God Delusion Insanity". When one views the problem as a psychiatric condition, then a certain empathy and understanding arises.
Salome,
Dyson |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1134
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 04:01 pm: |
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Connecticut bishops fight sex abuse bill
Hartford, Connecticut (CNN) April 12, 2010 -- A bill in Connecticut's legislature that would remove the statute of limitations on child sexual abuse cases has sparked a fervent response from the state's Roman Catholic bishops, who released a letter to parishioners Saturday imploring them to oppose the measure.
Under current Connecticut law, sexual abuse victims have 30 years past their 18th birthday to file a lawsuit. The proposed change to the law would rescind that statute of limitations.
The proposed change to the law would put "all Church institutions, including your parish, at risk," says the letter, which was signed by Connecticut's three Roman Catholic bishops.
The letter is posted on the Web site of the Connecticut Catholic Public Affairs Conference, the public policy and advocacy office of Connecticut's Catholic bishops. It asks parishioners to contact their legislators in opposition of the bill.
The "legislation would undermine the mission of the Catholic Church in Connecticut, threatening our parishes, our schools, and our Catholic Charities," the letter says.
The Catholic archdiocese of Hartford also published a pulpit announcement on its Web site, which was to be read during Mass on Sunday, urging parishioners to express opposition to the bill.
Continues: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/11/connecticut.abuse.bill/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn
http://www.ctcatholic.org/Statute-of-limitation.php
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 09:05 pm: |
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This is all the product of centuries of infantilizing people to the point that they have given away all common sense and authority for their own lives. Otherwise why do they, why have they continued to even discuss this horrendous stuff with the church, the institutionalized abusers, rather than primarily with the police?
The fall of this vile abomination can come none too soon.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_predator_priests |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 322
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 09:50 pm: |
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http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/india/100402/sex-india-gurus
Excerpt:
"The Roman Catholic Church isn't alone when it comes to scandal lately.
As the debate rages in the West about the ungodly behavior of godly men, a series of sex scandals involving India’s assortment of god men — called sadhu, baba or swami — is making skeptics out of many Indians."
Salome.
Suv
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:37 pm: |
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Cheers.
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