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    Markcampbell Member Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2008 |
It's funny that you should put it that way , Sheila ! Mark | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 12-2009 |
Billy has survived assaination attempts by religious groups. Now, this news story here, a Roman Cathoilic priest is accused of hiring a hitman to silence his victim: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/23/1939357/ex-priest-accused-of-plotting.html This takes the Catholic Church sex abuse scandel to a new level. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 470 Registered: 06-2009 |
The infamous Swastika symbol used by the Nazis was actually 45 degree tilted version of the Swastika (Sanskrit: Svastika, meaning "that what is auspicious") symbol used by the Hindus to this day and are used in various religious ceremonies. Buddhists also uses the symbol or its mirror image version at various places especially in between the symbolic footprint of Buddha or at the palm or heart of Buddha. Other cultures uses or used the symbol at various forms. It is little known that in some temples associated with old Jewish burial sites the Swastika symbol was found. This symbol has also been found in various pre-Christian sites in Europe including Armenia and much of Northern Europe, then Mesopotamia and Egypt and also in artefacts recovered from the South-eastern Ceremonial Complex (covering Georgia, Northern Florida, Alabama, S. Carolina etc). The last one is especially interesting, because at that time, there were no connectivity between the American continent and Eurasia – unless of course they were introduced by some space travelling race. The connections that I could trace so far are:
Salome. Suv | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 556 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi Suv There are two symbols in the symbol book, one representing life in the light, and the other representing life in the dark, or the dark side of life. There is also brief mention only that I could find about the swastika, in Bulletin 38 and SB 32.   Robyn | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 471 Registered: 06-2009 |
Yes Robyn, the two are mirror images of each other. Thanks for posting the images from the book of symbols. The Swastika that was used in the Nazi flag was the Swastika on the left tilted 45 degree in the anti-clockwise direction, and thereby does not correspond exactly to either the anti-clockwise (Lebens im Liche) or clockwise Swastika (Lebendunkelheit lebensnichtexistenz). What is the significance of the tilt? Salome. Suv | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 453 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello everyone i think the Leben im Licht symbol is "moving" clockwise and not the other way in Chinese medicine (acupuncture which was taught by Nokodemjon) the creative or healing energy moves this way. Its similar to the movement of the taijitu (tai chi / yin-yang) symbol which by the way is almost always pictured counterclockwise but persons think they are showing it with a clockwise movement. Something similar to the false peace symbol used everywhere which really represents death.  clockwise movement salome | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 622 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear SUV, In Indi's reprint above, the symbol on the left is life in light... page 285 the symbol on the right is life in darkness or absence of life development... page 288 of my Symbole der Geisteslehre... an interesting book. These are symbols of the spiritual teaching, not spiritual telepathic communication symbols which it is my understanding are far more complex. The translations to English are mine and may be incorrect. Most of the symbols of the spiritual teaching represent negative connotations when darkened as is the Swastika... Salome | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 474 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Randy, As the book name suggest...these are symbols of the spiritual teaching (symbole der geisteslehre) not spiritual telepathy (geisttelepathischen symbolen). Wonder why symbols for spiritual teaching are required - unless they are useful to be transmitted by spiritual telepathy? Salome. Suv | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 557 Registered: 06-2006 |
Suv The symbols in the book 'Symbole der Geisteslehre' are 601 of 52,476,812 spirit symbols, and are those that are used in Spirit-Telepathy. This fact is discussed in the Geisteslehre No. 17, p.179. As to the use of the symbols: in the introduction of the book, Bernadette Brand describes the value of the symbols as a tool for evolutive growth. From the Intorduction p. XVI, my unofficial translation: ".....The symbols of the Spirit Teaching embody not only the concepts they represent, but they contain any of a whole universe of meanings, and they generate in the person who deals with them, a new bond/attachment to the symbol and the idea for which it stands.Occupying oneself meditatively on the symbols of the spiritual teaching, and in detail, is, from my own experience a valuable and extremely helpful means of self-knowledge, self-education and character development and personality development. The symbols accomodate not only nice and edifying or forbidding and awful ‘images’, but in themselves are very involved and to deal with them radically and unreservedly, is informative and valuable..... .....With the feelings and stirrings they evoke in us to inspect, to perceive and deal with, can bit by bit help us on our stony and laborious path of evolution.Our reactions to the symbols are not neutral in fact, but shaped by our thinking and our personality." ----- The ability to use Spirit-Telepathy is only available to those who have reached level 4 and I would think that mastery of primary telepathy would be a requirement to precede this. A note, about primary telepathy as well: Billy mentioned that amongst the Plejaren, not all can use primary telepathy, but only a small perecentage have developed this ability. Apparently, Billy will be publishing another book of symbols. Re the complexity of the spirit symbols: I think that was referring to many of the 52 million are too complex to convey to us. Bernadette said that for Billy to get these symbols from the Storage banks requires a lot of effort on his part, and therefore the more complex symbols might be too difficult to convey. Robyn | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2008 |
This answer from Billy refers to difference between symbols of spiritual teachings and symbols used in spiritual telepathy. curlymoses Your book, Symbole der Geisteslehre, contains 601 illustrations of ideas/concepts that one transmits and receives telepathiclly. I understand with much meditation discipline, the symbols possibly enter ones awareness. Millions of these symbols exist. How do humans of Earth most efficiently compile more spiritual teaching symbols for visual study after their correct meaning is verified, translated, and recorded? Thank you, kindly Salome curlymoses Since the Symbole der Geisteslehre (symbols of the spiritual teaching) have been created by Nokodemion, terrestrial human beings cannot compile them through any means. This is possible only for the personalities of the Nokodemion line. These symbols may not be getting mixed with the symbols that are used in spiritual telepathy. Those symbols cannot be drawn. ---------------- Hi Edmundo All I can say is that this information conflicts with what is written in the Geisteslehre as I mentioned in my post and I noted that answer from the questions another time this was being discussed. I will have to have this clarified, as having conflicting info like this leads to confusion. However, no matter what is the correct information, it will not affect any of us at this time :-) Thankyou for posting this. Robyn (Message edited by indi on December 01, 2010) -------------------- Edmundo and all, I have since communicated with Christian re this matter and he checked with Billy. My conclusion about the spirit symbols being those used in Spirit Telepathy was incorrect. So, What Edmundo has shared above is correct. Re the conflicting information in the Geisteslehre: well, I will have to get to the bottom of that still. I hope this helps clarify the issue. Robyn (Message edited by indi on March 04, 2011) | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2008 |
Pope's last sermon: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-false-prophets-dictators-change-world-destructive-ways.html Pope Benedict XVI, who spent his youth in Hitler's Germany, says dictators boast that they will change the world, but just bring destruction. The pontiff's reflections on what he calls history's "false prophets" came in off-the-cuff remarks Sunday while visiting a Rome church named after Maximilian Kolbe. Kolbe was a Polish priest who sacrificed his life at the Auschwitz Nazi death camp so that the father of a family would live. Benedict says the last few centuries witnessed ideologues who created "empires, dictatorships, totalitarianism." He says they changed the world, but only in a destructive way. Benedict adds that only "the silent light of truth," not cruel and violent revolutions, can change the world. ---- Isn't he right, after all?  | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2004 |
For your entertainment, apparently the end of the world is coming - May 21, 2011. http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2011/01/christian-group-says-apocalypse-coming.html "A lot of people might think, 'The end's coming, let's go party,'" said Exley, a veteran of two deployments in Iraq. "But we're commanded by God to warn people. I wish I could just be like everybody else, but it's so much better to know that when the end comes, you'll be safe." Very cool, lets party : ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eyFiClAzq8 Birds, snakes, aeroplanes... Fur leben. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 546 Registered: 06-2008 |
Another Indian guru ..... an entertaining one whose position on many things appears in line with Billy's. This is worth watching .... he trashes some well known personalities and beliefs with a unique humor and thought provoking intellect. Each segment is about 10 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGQqO2TYMI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhjOnYbKJJw&feature=channel Cheers. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 496 Registered: 05-2008 |
Ramirez: you're kidding about 'Osho' being in line with Billy? imo, he was strictly an entertainer & exploiter. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_213#Lines_51_-_195_translated_by_Benjamin_Stevens (Message edited by indi on January 16, 2011) | ||
Bianca Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 03-2009 |
Ramirez, these clips are very very old, this guy is called bagwan shnee rashnish. He had a cult following in the 80's and was extremely rich with many expansive cars and homes dotted in various places. He had a right hand lady called Sheila and when she had to answer curly questions which didnt please her she used say: 'tough teetees'. That was hilarious. He was found to be a charlatan and was ordered to sit in jail for quite sometime, and consequently most his followers dispersed. I am hearing again similar stories whereby a new guru of sorts, is collecting/addressing people by scaremongering them about 2012, and people are 'preparing' themselves for that. Personally I think this is a crime on a new level and must be exposed but people are so scared and confused, that they will cling onto anything when the word 'spirituality' is mentioned often enough. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 547 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Earthling & Bianca, Thankyou for the clarification .... Osho was the Bhagavan ..... your right, well behind the times and for old videos these are in remarkably good condition. The Bhagwan story i'm familiar with but didn't connect the two ..... Osho being Bhagwan. Just watched them noting he shows a dislike for the same sort of persons Billy mentions and is quite entertaining & amusing in his own way which probably accounts for his success in gathering a worldwide following of over 200,000 .... no small achievement. Exploiter ..... so the present Osho foundation continues the exploitation based on memories of their dearly departed renamed & re-invented one the former Bhagwan. Where have we heard that story Cheers. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 593 Registered: 10-2008 |
Actually , he seemed to be the kind of guy who would tell you without a doubt to not follow or believe him or anyone else . An honest personality , at least in the short piece that I viewed here . To be neutral and positive about it at the same time , I would guess that he ran into legal trouble through his honest and regardless comments about famous and powerful people . To assume that he was a charlatan without proof would be a negative . To concern myself with it further for any reason , unnecessary . | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 331 Registered: 10-2009 |
In case anyone is wondering, I am not the Sheila that Bianca speaks of. The correct spelling of Bhagwan's right hand gal is Sheela. Plus I've never said tough titty (unless I could end it with - said the kitty and her milk ran dry). So this is what we have to look forward to when the Osho sect turns into a cult - dry milk. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 509 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hindi translation of Bhagwan is 'God'. Saalome. Suv | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 02-2009 |
Well, i have read OSHO & Jiddu Krishnamurthy... their approach is different, but both makes almost the same point.....while OSHO's lectures are useful for starters as they are delivered in a humourous way spontaneously..that is why semjase called his teachings..'Spontaneous Teachings'...one thing i didnt like was that, he gives new names to his disciples, new orange colored clothes..to imply a new beginning..but there's a dark side to it too...& not to forget, Group sex which i came to hear from contact reports only(If it is helpful, it would be only to those who are mentally weak & upto a point..) ..Lot of what he talks makes sense and is in line with Creational Laws... For having 100 Rolls ROyce cars,he gave a reason for that and without listening to him about this, it is too early to come to a conclusion...And about his arrest, it is muddled with politics+Sheila's Betrayal(biological terrorism,misappropriation of funds,..)+...so on.. At 35 min.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1916549395176220097# he makes people bow to him & touch his legs..we in india generally do this in respect and love to elders, sages, teachers,...(one 'siddhanthi' whom i know told me that when we touch the toe of the enlightened/wise/knowledgeble person with the center point between our eyes,then it acts some kind of magnetic inductance(L shape, vertical line is Guru & horizontal base line is prostrater) by which the positive vibrations/energies are transferred to the person who prostrates...) The origin & purpose of this prostration, i do not know..whether this is done in the scientific context as told by Guru to me above(if it is true) or it could simply be a way of showing authority & power... -------------------------- Coming to Krishnamurthy...please go through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti he was spotted, selected, taught, educated to be the world teacher..but later he refused everything and from then on he gave lectures, books,...Is there anywhere in Contact Reports about Jiddu Krishnamurthy....as his teachings & way of life reflects alot with Billy's teachings.. What a thing is relationship, if we closely observe, relationship is much more subtle, more swift than lightning, more vast than earth, for relationship is life - Jiddu Krishnamurthy | ||
Teesoft New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2011 |
I am new here i dont know if this is the right place to ask question correct me if i am wrong pls I live in nigeria and i was born in a christian family our church is (celestial church of christ) but i have always knew something was wrong untill i started searching for the truth then i found billy contact files then something in me just knew it was just the truth though i am still reading but i just want to ask a question maybe anyone knows where i can find them or can answer them was all churches formed by the giza or bafath intelligence e.g CELESTIAL CHURCH OF CHRIST, REDEEMED CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD and many of them like that in nigeria and they have branches all over the world. Like to know more... Thanks. Salome! | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 511 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Teesoft, Welcome to the forum. Churches were found by earth humans and not Giza or Bafath. In part due to lack of comprehension, in part due to lack of widespread literacy, but mostly due to deliberate falsification, the true teaching by a real person called Jmmanuel were falsified into a compilation that is known to everybody as the Bible. The Giza intelligence, to my knowledge did not directly aid in the formation of the various churches. However, they did send out impulses that affected people in a negative way and by this method they controlled powerful peoples in politics and religion. Saalome. Suv | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 165 Registered: 12-2009 |
In the contact reports, Billy and the Plejarens talk about how religion do not promote spiritual evolution. Relegeon on the other hand, promotes spiritual evolution. Would Buddhism be something close to relegeon? |
