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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 04:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar and Mark...


Now I remember, it was a one David Waters who was the killer.

But, he was still a Southern Baptist Christian at the time, and an
(ex-)criminal.

It seemed that they just wanted to help him out at the time without any
discrimination towards his religion, so he got the job. Alas, with very
horrible out-come...


Edward.
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Earthling
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Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126024/Christians-NAILED-crosses-gruesome-Good-Friday-enactment-Jesuss-death-Philippines.html

the latest in cult rituals - get yourself nailed to a cross, like Jesus
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Earthling....


Yeah, Religious Madness!!

I once watch one of them on TV - fall off - the cross!

Head leaning over, then his upper body, than his hand-nails could not take it
and his whole body leaned forward and started to fall and than, his feet got
loose and he finally hit the ground: FACE first! OUCHHHHHHH......


Edward.
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Earthling
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NO chance Mohammed's words were altered, falsified or twisted to fit degenerated male perversions! No way!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Outrage-Egypt-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-dead-wives-hours-AFTER-death.html

"Outrage as Egypt plans 'farewell intercourse law' so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives up to six hours after their death"
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the truth behind Elohim (as in Exodus)and El Shaddai (Genesis 17:1, Genesis 28:3....)? Were they single people (singular), or group of ET's(plural) or generic term?


Jim here explained that Elohim could mean "Gods" (plural).

Is there any material in English/German that clarifies this?
"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung
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Patm
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Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the Talmud Jmmanuel (2011)
in the Introductory Explanations Billy explains "
More often God's names in Hebrew usage was ADONAI "My Lord", EL or Elohim ("God"), "Ha-Shem" ('the name'), ha-Kadosh ("the Holy"), usually used in the formula "ha Kadosh Baruch hu" ('the Holy One, Blessed is He"). Next to name is the designation Elyon ("Highest") and Shaddai, a name of God, which is not entirely clear in its meaning."

also in Chapter 1 page 2, Billy explains that there were several diverse designations for God that have appeared including Jahjeh, Jahawah, Jahve, Jahveh, Yahwe, Jehova, Jehovah, Jehowah, Adonai, Elohim, Ehjeh, HERR, Lord, ER, and Ewiger.
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on another note in FIGU Bulletin 35 & 42
"Raël" Claude Vorilhon of the Raelian sect claims to have contact with the "Elohim" that are alleged aliens that are already listed in the "Bible".

hope this helps
PatM
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks. So its basically a designation.
"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung
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Retchie1973
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Earthling,
actually it has been a tradition in some parts of the Philippines the re enactment of the nailing of Christ on the Cross. Sad to say it's been going on for years ...... delusional people ....

saalome......
retchupax
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Rintintin
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Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to an extensive research done for me, the judaism is the most terrible of all religion. Just look at these videos.


Talmud Truth - Child Abuse & Incest.

Jews Woman Admit Human Sacrifices

Their Plan for Mankind

Judaism and Bolchevism

Judaism an Armenian Genocide

There are thousands of videos on youtube like these; made ​​by thousands of people around the world trying to warn the world about this fanatic and crazy psychopaths.

Dear Rintintin,

In the future please do not post active links which do not directly link to FIGU.

Thank you
Scott
FIGU Forum Moderator


(Message edited by scott on May 26, 2012)
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Darren
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Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rintintin, Judaism is not as terrible as Israel's Zionists leaders. This practising religous Jew explains on Al-Jazeera TV many things they are doing in Palestine as illegal and are war crimes and many other evil acts. He explains how all these acts are against his jewish religion.
4 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDODrMkO7jI
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As someone who has been through the 'Judaism is the world's worst religion' stuff, studied it extensively, I feel I oughta weigh in here. Although I am no friend of Judaism, comparatively it isn't so much worse than other religions in my opinion. There is alot out there that maligns Judaism, and some of it is well-founded. For instance, you didn't mention the all-too-revealing, and often denied, Harold Wallace Rosenthal interview:
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal_Interview_1976.htm

However, this does not represent all that Judaism is. Instead, Judaism has within it some individuals and sects who use the worst elements of it to justify any sick behavior, such as Zionism, but there are Christians who do the same thing, such as the Conservative Christian Right, as well as Muslims, such as the Muslim Brotherhood. According to the Plejaren, who have looked into this, when taken as a whole Judaism has had no worse impact than any other religion. Reviewing the Plejaren position on Judaism, one gets the sense that they do not support special prejudicial feelings towards it, but rather consider it only as misinformed as all the others.

But Judaism is not innocent, either. What Judaism is guilty of is deliberate deconstructive societal manipulation. If any criticism is its due, Judaism's hypocrisy is that it works to break down the unique identities and boundaries between nations, between races, between religions, while maintaining its own unique self-important identity.

The Plejaren say the Judaism is not more influential than other religions, and while I question this, I still do not think Judaism is worse than other religions. Jews push upon the world their own sense of morality, but do not all religious movements do the same?
Life
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Ramirez
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Judaism and it's manipulators .....

A very well thought out series of observations and comments by Michaelhelfert .... the juden are hardly better or worse than others though a minority amongst them are very astute managers of financial matters and experts concerning the use and impact of money ..... the moneylenders .... the very same ones whose tables JC kicked over in the temple way back though 2000 years later they are still heavily into the business of money lending and money exchange and still operating from temples.

It's 55 minutes but well worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_wkVJcH65s

No emotions or religious - racial overtones .... just information .... but accurate information ?

That depends on how much other research is undertaken but if you become involved to any degree in such things there soon emerge familiar themes involving certain aspects of Judaism and some of it's practitioners - sponsors - manipulators just as with other religions.

How does the worlds financial system work ?
Take a look at the 55 minute video linked above and or trawl about on Youtube for videos by Max Keiser ..... here's a recent one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKyFhx9vakY

We are fortunate to have Mr Meier with us because of all things amongst the most precious is that he provides us with an opportunity to obtain a first class education about reality through the publication and distribution of many works.

We are also fortunate that in his own unique way Max Keiser is with us and provides an opportunity to obtain a first class education about how the world's financial system really works on stage and behind the scenes ..... no wonder he operates from Russia .... it's safer.

Besides that he is incredibly entertaining and funny ..... a rare combination.
Cheers.
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Ferbon
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Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those of you who haven't heard the story of Anneliese Michel here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4n9vK0_mdk
Actually there are probably 10 or so audio recordings documenting this so called exorcism. Not sure if this topic has ever been touched on. What do you make of this? Is it a good idea to ask Billy to clarify this and any case of "casting evil spirits out" ? If any of you have any data on this - please share.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a mental disorder very likely exaserbated by being in contact with idiots who project their morbid religious fantasies against a disturbed person ..... making them even more disturbed.

It's an alternate personality constructed through the intervention of others where the victim has "infused" various subconscious projections and eventually animated and developed them into a workable secondary personality able to "take over" the drivers seat.

Very very sad cases where the most effective solution would entail removing the victims from the presence of those who hold views that they are possessed.

Exorcism ..... the best solution for exorcists is solution 303.
Cheers.
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Ferbon,

I would recommend you start reading the Talmud Jmmanuel which was translated from scrolls found several decades ago at the actual burial site of the man known today as Jesus Christ. You will recall that a Pharisee named Nicodemus approached Jmmanuel (jesus) and asked him to explain to him the teaching of "being born again." In the Kabbalah I came across the teaching that "the spirit reincarnates again and again until a perfected state is reached." The Rav (kabbalist) of Moses time wrote that "it was no god that parted the Red Sea, but rather, that it was Moses himself who did it." This Rav even begins to fairly explain the molecular properties of water and explained why the parting of the Red Sea was possible for Moses. An obvious difference between the Ravs and Kabbalistic teachings and that fabulated by the old testament scribes and new testament roman scribes...all of whom were not spiritually minded people.

The evidence is there in nature, the universe and in our very inner most essence, that there is no god, heaven, devil or demons. These can neither harm nor benefit since they are the imaginations of confused, primitive, superstitious or conned men in earth's past who did not realize extraterrestrials were posing as gods with their technologies.

The question we must ask ourselves is...how far down the rabbit hole do we wish to go? Would we prefer to still believe in Santa Claus or come to the factual reality (Truth)?

These so called possessions are explained by Jmmanuel in the Talmud Jmmanuel with some rather very interesting insights.

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Ferbon
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddieamartin
Thanks! I am quite excited about TJ.
The exorcism case mentioned by me earlier, is, for sure, one of many cases of such from present and from times of Immanuel, although this was 1975? and, only one I actually got to know in details. What's more sad regarding this case, the poor victim mentioned not one or two but I think seven or so ,different personalities "occupying" her body/mind? Cain, Hitler, Lucifer...it was madness! Thought somebody would know if Billy has ever mentioned this one. Do you think humans can cause such destructive and directed mind power manifestation?
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're welcome Ferbon.

If the human being is capable of the placebo effect...then these documented cases answer your question in the affirmative. We also learn, in the Talmud Jmmanuel, about the power of our thoughts, the consciousness and so on. Very empowering information.

We should all be careful not to get caught up in the sensationalism of these documentaries, since we are in the infancy of our studies and personal awakening to the actual existence.

I doubt Billy would occupy himself with interest in documentaries filled with mentally ill people and the religious delusional under the yoke of a belief that devils and demons are in possession of the sick one.

I would venture and suggest that we concentrate our limited time, energies and efforts to empower ourselves with a cognition of the Reality, the teachings of Truth, the teachings of Spirit and the teachings of Life (Goblet of Truth [free from FIGU]). Our present lives and next incarnation is dependent on these personal efforts. Our lives can be enriched with abundant joy, control of our fate, meeting all our responsibilities, impacting the lives of those around us through the application of the spiritual principles and teachings we learn and understand. In doing so, people around us begin to get touched, they begin to think for themselves, optimism reigns within them, kindness spreads, harmony resonates amongst all people and the earth soon becomes a paradise for everyone.

Fascinate yourself with the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom.

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Corey
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ferbon,

Things such as different personalities "living" inside one human being is usually caused by schizophrenia. It is impossible for a human being to have more then one personality. Schizophrenia is a mental illness that is treatable with the right medication the problem is most people that have it live undiagnosed their entire life. Billy mentioned many of today's disorders are caused by overpopulation and it's possible schizophrenia is one of those on the list (religion doesn't help either btw)

I don't put much stock into exorcism or any other thing related to any cult religion.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ferbon....

Welcome to the FIGU board.


Half has been said by the postings posted.

Not to forget, Billy even mentioned in his materials, that it CAN occur, that
more the one Spirit-form occupy one human being.

Say, if there should be an accident, or another such incident concerning 2-3
individuals (and they died), it can occur that these Spirit-form are in a
confused state and can enter/gratvitate ONE human body, at the same time.
Than, we CAN speak of more than one Personality 'possessing' the concerning
human being(,alas/sadly...)


As I understood, the (Global) Overpopulation factor also contributes to such
sad scenario: Earth's Reincarnation Processing Cycle is - Out of order -; and
the above mentioned is just one of the so many disorders which occurs, to
make humans occur 'awkward' in their manifestations.


Edward.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 03:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ferbon....

I wrote: "it can occur that these Spirit-forms are in a confused state and
can enter/gravitate ONE human body,"

'ONE human body' should be related to the embryo, in the mother's womb; if I
remember it correctly. To not get further confused, ok. [I think it was like
that...]


Edward.
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Damian_jones
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 03:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edward, I think you should look up "Billy Meir Interview - 2011" on you tube and go to 7.40 where Billy states that it is impossible for more than one spirit form to be in an individual human being.
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Edward_b
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only time it is possible is if twins are born fused together, as in siamese twins, where they have two heads but share the same body. One spirit per brain.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Damian and Edward_b....


I am familiar with that past information.


What I mentioned is and Update.

You will come across it as you further read more of the Meier materials.

Or, utilze the Search Engine, here. It/this was discussed in the past.


Edward.

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